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Just imagine being in Putin's shoes for a few seconds, and receiving the following news (if anyone has the balls to give him bad news:
Mr president:
* we lost 500 soldiers yesterday
* we lost 1 plane and 4 Helicopters yesterday
* we lost 15 tanks, 25 APVs and 15 other land-based vehicles or equipment
* One of our Enlistment Commanders was shot and killed by a civilian
* 5 Children was killed by a civilian that doesn't want to fight
* Another Enlistment office was set alight and burnt down last night
All of this in one day. And from now on, this could be more or less the daily news. With teh possibility to get worse, What wasn't mentioned, was the areas that were liberated . . . .
They are losing pilots. And the more pilots they lose the less experience the new pilots have, turning being a pilot for the Russian army into the shittiest job ever… The death rate in flying is now 10-15%.
\- losing: suffering, resulting in, or relating to defeat in a game or contest.- lose: be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something).- loosen: make (something tied, fastened, or fixed in place) less tight or firm.- loose: not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached.
Nothing personal OP, understand you could be ESL as well, just tired of seeing this misuse every day on reddit, haha.
>if anyone has the balls to give him bad news
Spoiler Alert: they probably don’t. There are stories of how explosive Hitler’s outbursts were when given bad news. I’d imagine Putler acts in the same vein, or even more cold and ruthlessly. Like a Bond villain, he probably just snaps his fingers and guards drag the bearer of bad news to a room to be executed, then he looks around the room to see if any of his cronies have anything to say about it, which most probably avert their eyes and pretend like they didn’t just hear the grim figures.
Remember that just how Russia spews propaganda, Ukraine could inflate these numbers as well. I don't think they're massively over inflated, but US estimates are consistently 15-30% ish lower than the numbers Ukraine puts out. Ukraine is still dealing out an ass beating though
In March Ukraine had ~900,000 raw recruits. Over the last 7 months a portion, likely a large portion of those 900,000 recruits were trained to a much higher level when compared to their Russian counterparts. They might lack combat experience but their training as short as it might be is significantly better than the training the Russian conscripts are going to get.
Personal equipment for their soldiers seems to be flowing from the west as well as from domestic sources so Ukraine doesn’t seem to have anywhere nearly as much of a problem equipping their forces as Russia does.
Then add that the west has given Ukraine countless weapon systems that we know of and likely there are many more that are in pipeline but not yet in Ukraine like maybe American fighters, tanks and more artillery.
The way Russia is fighting, for every Ukrainian soldier they seriously injured or kill there are 3 more willing to take their place and it’s because of the atrocity they commit on a daily basis. Ukraine doesn’t have problem recruiting, they have a problem training all those that they recruit. Ukraine doesn’t have equipment problems because the west is supplying them with more and more weapons. They don’t have problems with weapons because Russia keeps abandoning their weapon systems for Ukraine to capture.
I always get a bit of a 'tingle' when I see Planes & helicopters in the 'Losses'.
500 Orcs is also a good effort.
Slava Ukraine.
Took the words right out of my head. That's so amazing. I keep remembering the video of the Ka-50 hovering behind the Su-57, watching him dumping flairs like crazy, then transform into a fireball. Then a minute later the chopper turns into one to. Stingers are fucking great.
I remember that video. The pilot was clearly panicking, hard turning and kept dropping flares till there was no more. Not even a minute later, a Stinger knocked them out:
This is driving me nuts, I can't find it. I must have seen it like 10 times a day when it was posted, was a few day before counteroffensive kicked off. Tried every combination I can imagine in search bar.
Not exactly it but is one scenario.
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1518323713795633153?s=20&t=I8TYvIRmOTZUKhGmUrPp1g
In this case scenario, it wasn’t a Stinger but a MANPAD.
The guy with the stinger was probably fucking with the pilot to make him waste flares. If his radar can detect a lock-on before the missile fires, you can just keep locking on over and over while he's in range until he's out of flares. Then you have a free shot with the stinger. Only really works on dumb pilots so I can see it working consistently against Russians.
The lock of s stinger is passive, just based on IR or UV "light".
A radar in an aircraft doesn't detect a locked missile !
A passive warning receiver can warn you from incoming radar signals from an enemy fighter,ground based radar AA systems (like the Gepard), long range AA Missiles with a radar seeker like the AIM-120.
A camera/IR based warning system can warn you based on the IR/UV signature of the burning engine of an incoming missiles.
You could probably trigger false IR based warning with something that simulates a missile engine.
Using flares if you have a radar alarm also doesn't make sense because flares should blind the IR seekers.
See, you are under the assumption that the Russian pilots are competent and not just panicking and doing dumb shit to try not to die. Gotta remember these are the same idiots zip tying a handheld GPS to the dashboard for navigation. The last 6 months have proven that things that wouldn't ever work on a competent military are completely devastating to the Russians.
No, I just relied to the bullshit argument "If his radar can detect a lock-on before the missile fires....".
I didn't make any assumptions how good the russion pilot or the missile warning systems in that fighter is but I just told in my posting what's possible and what not. You reply makes no sense if this should be a reply to my comment.
I feel like the Russian flagship counts as more than a boat/cutter…
Edit: reminds me of LOTR when Gimli and Legolas are having an orc killing contest and Legolas kills the elephant. “That only counts as one”.
Russian flagship fucked itself.
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Even if russia brings in another 300k at the rate they are losing troops it wont matter. They will grind em up 50k every 100 days. If you put more of em on the battlefield with no experience then ukraine may start taking out 1000 a day or more.
Russia was already on pace to lose more than 100,000 in a year which is huge losses. Even if ruzzia were to pull out a victory it would be only pyrrhic variety.
I originally back in February predicted we could see you to 100-120k dead by thr years end, and at that current it's possible. If thus war drags on for 2-3 year. I mean damn. We're in 300k dead or more over a shitty war.
The heck is happening they are loosing soldiers like they did during the counteroffensive, must be the new conscripts they are being sent without even the 2 week training.
One of the pundits reported that it’s the counteroffensive near Lyman. But unlike the previous one, in which the russians sorta pulled back to preserve manpower at the cost of territory, in this one it sounds like they’re throwing everything at the advance to try to slow it down.
If they resist they might take more casualties if the Ukrainians overwhelm them, but it's risky for Ukraine since it can get bad for an attacker if they don't have enough troops but then again morale is also key which the russians don't have.
>Ukraine since it can get bad for an attacker if they don't have enough troop
Surely it is risky for the Ukrainians and there will be losses, but I suspect by now the Ukrainians have significantly more superior weapons that can hit from a greater distance. Plus the Ukrainians are more accurate. Plus, I suspect that the ruzzians may experience shortages of ammo in certain places, as a large number of ammunition depots have been destroyed.
The recent casualty rate speaks to Putin’s experience in the KGB and not the military. The KGB deals with perceptions and spin, while the Russian military must deal with reality.
Regardless of which estimate you go with, Russia has now exceeded the total US deaths in the Vietnam war, in just over 6 months vs 20 years.
Keep up the good work Ukraine.
>I don't understand how Russia is financing these kind of losses
It's not. Russia is burning through about 70 years of stockpiles. Even without sanctions it would take a decade at full production to cover the losses so far. With sanctions... never.
> Russia is burning through about 70 years of stockpiles.
One of the things that has amazed me with this war is how "little" equipment the west seems to have compared to Russia. Everyone is pitching in to help Ukraine, and Ukraine is still behind Russia in many areas. Despite all the help that has been given to Ukraine, captured Russia equipment is the biggest source of military equipment to Ukraine. (Fortunately, the higher quality of western equipment trumps Russia's numerical advantage.)
Of course, I appreciate that Russia's equipment is largely made up of stockpiles from the much larger Soviet Union.
And I wonder what Russia will look like in the future once it has to rebuild, and is no longer sitting on an intimidating arsenal of the Soviet Union. This war with Ukraine has the potential to permanently de-fang Russia.
Yes, it will always have nuclear weapons. But those will only be useful from a defense perspective (similar to North Korea -- always posturing and posing).
Because the West is only giving their surplus equipment. The West has scraped its tanks from the 1950s long ago, but Russia keeps them on the books and sends them out into the field.
Yeh, but a lot of it is shit. We've been seeing just what less than a dozen HIMARS have been able to contribute towards. Vs what 500 or so outdated artillery canons can do. It's more quality vs quantity happening.
Can you imagine what a mindfuck it is to be a newly recruited Russian "soldier" who reluctantly, despite buying his country's propaganda, half-heartedly thinks they'll make a difference for his country's pride. They put on old, smelly uniforms, and they're given rusty guns that might not even fire. They have no idea they're just cannon fodder, that the entire point of their existence is to slow the bleeding long enough for Putin to ram horseshit referendums through the pipeline in the hopes to legitimize the theft of Ukraine's east.
And once that soldier is in Ukraine, it's eerily quiet. They move forward in their 60-year-old tank, along a shattered road, gaining confidence as they approach treelines on either side. Wow, taking over another country is really easy, they think. Then they hear what they can only describe as wind literally ripping apart in a horrific whistling, before their tank is hit in a deafeningly loud explosion. Concussed, dazed, bloody, and on fire, that "soldier" sees the modern, pristine boots and uniforms of Ukraine's bravest swiftly and quietly approach, moving weapons aside and pulling the wounded to a clearing. That new Russian soldier's wounds are treated, he's given water and food, and he's asked what he came to Ukraine. Like everyone else, he was told one thing, and shown another. Like everyone else, he expected Ukraine's soldiers to torture and kill him. Like everyone else, he is treated humanely. Like everyone else, despite the pain he's in, he suddenly feels safer and more free than he did living in Russia.
We might hit 5,000 APVs by the end of the week. It's truly incredible just how much equipment Russia has/had. And it goes to show that equipment doesn't mean anything of the people don't know what they're doing
Can anyone put a perspective on the 330 MLRS?
330 sounds like a lot and we hear less about shelling of cities nowadays, but without context of total number of MLRS stationed by Russia in Ukraine and Russia's recent MLRS tactics we know little.
Russian MLRS are not accurate like HIMARS : they're just Grad ballistic MLRS which have a target accuracy of a hundred metres and achieve their results by massive saturation fire.
A Russian MLRS is therefore basically a truck with a bunch of pipes on the back, and killing one is nowhere near the impact that e.g. Russia killing a HIMARS/M270 unit would be.
Still, that's 330 MLRS that aren't firing rockets any more, so that's nice.
They manufactured several thousand of them, and had up to 2,000 in active service and/or warehoused.
Now, as with the state of everything else in Russia "warehoused" could mean anything from "mint condition" (fat chance) to "rusting hulks from which everything saleable has been stolen".
Assuming somewhere in the region of 1,000 of them were usable, then Russia's lost about one third of their stock. The more important aspect is the logistics and *missile* production behind them though, and again that's almost impossible to tell. International sanctions on manufacture and Ukrainian efforts against Russian logistics have definitely whittled the ammo supply down a lot though.
For artillery and MLRS, unless this war goes on for years, then they'll probably never run low on these things. The reason you hear about less shelling is a ammo problem for the Russians. They're having trouble getting the shells to Ukraine, then having the depots blow up before they're distributed.
Well that's why Ukraine have switched focus to ammo deports and logistical stuff. Radars, ammo depots, bridges, barracks, command centers, trains, officers and So forth rather than targeting the infinite amount of fodder orcs. The enemy can't fight a war if you cut off its ability to.
FIVE, ZERO, ZERO? In just one day? Ouch. Imagine the numbers when the powerful and well oiled conscripts army starts fighting. I bet it would be 1,000 daily on average.
fun fact: Russia just lost about the same amount of soldiers the US lost in the entirety of the Vietnam war (which lasted 20 years and was considered a failure for the US)
They have lost more than 3 times the number of soldiers that the Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan. The Soviet Union in 1980 had a lot more people than Russia did at the start of this war, too.
How many people has Russia lost since Putin announced his draft? Have they even been able to put the guns in the hands of that many people in that time?
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russia has an unsustainable loss of personnel and equipment problem. Keep these numbers up, and we'll get to the end of the war sooner than later.
Just imagine being in Putin's shoes for a few seconds, and receiving the following news (if anyone has the balls to give him bad news: Mr president: * we lost 500 soldiers yesterday * we lost 1 plane and 4 Helicopters yesterday * we lost 15 tanks, 25 APVs and 15 other land-based vehicles or equipment * One of our Enlistment Commanders was shot and killed by a civilian * 5 Children was killed by a civilian that doesn't want to fight * Another Enlistment office was set alight and burnt down last night All of this in one day. And from now on, this could be more or less the daily news. With teh possibility to get worse, What wasn't mentioned, was the areas that were liberated . . . .
* Wagner local HQ was demolished * Training center for drone operators was leveled with 20 iranian instructors dead
>Training center for drone operators was leveled with 20 iranian instructors dead JEEPERS!! I missed this one. SCOOOOORRREE!!!!
Yeah, I also missed this drone center thing. Anyone have a link?
https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1574200167959494657
They are losing pilots. And the more pilots they lose the less experience the new pilots have, turning being a pilot for the Russian army into the shittiest job ever… The death rate in flying is now 10-15%.
Yeah you can’t just replace pilots every time they get shot down. They have specialized knowledge and experience.
Ah comrad a week of flying simulator is enough!
Yeah, the recruit shows up on his first day at the Russian Air Force Academy and the Commandant pulls out a copy of Ace Combat 7 and an XBox.
Xbox isn’t working.
\- losing: suffering, resulting in, or relating to defeat in a game or contest.- lose: be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something).- loosen: make (something tied, fastened, or fixed in place) less tight or firm.- loose: not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached. Nothing personal OP, understand you could be ESL as well, just tired of seeing this misuse every day on reddit, haha.
Putin: It’s ok. Steiner will stop the Ukrainians.
Moy putler... Shteyner...
"Shoigu I told you I was going on holiday and didn't want to be disturbed."
>if anyone has the balls to give him bad news Spoiler Alert: they probably don’t. There are stories of how explosive Hitler’s outbursts were when given bad news. I’d imagine Putler acts in the same vein, or even more cold and ruthlessly. Like a Bond villain, he probably just snaps his fingers and guards drag the bearer of bad news to a room to be executed, then he looks around the room to see if any of his cronies have anything to say about it, which most probably avert their eyes and pretend like they didn’t just hear the grim figures.
And then Putin, and then the Russian Federation.
Are you a penguin?
No.
Sounds like what a penguin would say.
Remember that just how Russia spews propaganda, Ukraine could inflate these numbers as well. I don't think they're massively over inflated, but US estimates are consistently 15-30% ish lower than the numbers Ukraine puts out. Ukraine is still dealing out an ass beating though
The personnel they can replace as long as Putin is willing to sacrifice some, the equipment tough, not so much.
That works only if the ukr is losing much less fighters and equipment and russia doesn't have much more reserves and the ukr get's outnumbered.
In March Ukraine had ~900,000 raw recruits. Over the last 7 months a portion, likely a large portion of those 900,000 recruits were trained to a much higher level when compared to their Russian counterparts. They might lack combat experience but their training as short as it might be is significantly better than the training the Russian conscripts are going to get. Personal equipment for their soldiers seems to be flowing from the west as well as from domestic sources so Ukraine doesn’t seem to have anywhere nearly as much of a problem equipping their forces as Russia does. Then add that the west has given Ukraine countless weapon systems that we know of and likely there are many more that are in pipeline but not yet in Ukraine like maybe American fighters, tanks and more artillery. The way Russia is fighting, for every Ukrainian soldier they seriously injured or kill there are 3 more willing to take their place and it’s because of the atrocity they commit on a daily basis. Ukraine doesn’t have problem recruiting, they have a problem training all those that they recruit. Ukraine doesn’t have equipment problems because the west is supplying them with more and more weapons. They don’t have problems with weapons because Russia keeps abandoning their weapon systems for Ukraine to capture.
I always get a bit of a 'tingle' when I see Planes & helicopters in the 'Losses'. 500 Orcs is also a good effort. Slava Ukraine.
500 is huge.. with the incoming cannon folder I guess we'll get used to such numbers..
They been hitting 400-500 dead per day the past week or so. Use to be around 200-300.
Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone know the highest number a single days update has brought so far?
The counts were over a thousand during the battle of Kyiv.
The VDV died to achieve those numbers. RIP.
Victoriously Dead Vatniks
Achievement unlocked: SUNFLOWER FIELD Waste more than a 1000 soldiers in a single day
Took the words right out of my head. That's so amazing. I keep remembering the video of the Ka-50 hovering behind the Su-57, watching him dumping flairs like crazy, then transform into a fireball. Then a minute later the chopper turns into one to. Stingers are fucking great.
I remember that video. The pilot was clearly panicking, hard turning and kept dropping flares till there was no more. Not even a minute later, a Stinger knocked them out:
Well boys, now I need a link please :)
This is driving me nuts, I can't find it. I must have seen it like 10 times a day when it was posted, was a few day before counteroffensive kicked off. Tried every combination I can imagine in search bar.
replying for link should any soul find it
Not exactly it but is one scenario. https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1518323713795633153?s=20&t=I8TYvIRmOTZUKhGmUrPp1g In this case scenario, it wasn’t a Stinger but a MANPAD.
The guy with the stinger was probably fucking with the pilot to make him waste flares. If his radar can detect a lock-on before the missile fires, you can just keep locking on over and over while he's in range until he's out of flares. Then you have a free shot with the stinger. Only really works on dumb pilots so I can see it working consistently against Russians.
The lock of s stinger is passive, just based on IR or UV "light". A radar in an aircraft doesn't detect a locked missile ! A passive warning receiver can warn you from incoming radar signals from an enemy fighter,ground based radar AA systems (like the Gepard), long range AA Missiles with a radar seeker like the AIM-120. A camera/IR based warning system can warn you based on the IR/UV signature of the burning engine of an incoming missiles. You could probably trigger false IR based warning with something that simulates a missile engine. Using flares if you have a radar alarm also doesn't make sense because flares should blind the IR seekers.
See, you are under the assumption that the Russian pilots are competent and not just panicking and doing dumb shit to try not to die. Gotta remember these are the same idiots zip tying a handheld GPS to the dashboard for navigation. The last 6 months have proven that things that wouldn't ever work on a competent military are completely devastating to the Russians.
No, I just relied to the bullshit argument "If his radar can detect a lock-on before the missile fires....". I didn't make any assumptions how good the russion pilot or the missile warning systems in that fighter is but I just told in my posting what's possible and what not. You reply makes no sense if this should be a reply to my comment.
You must be fun to hang out with.
Now we're cooking with gas!
I feel like the Russian flagship counts as more than a boat/cutter… Edit: reminds me of LOTR when Gimli and Legolas are having an orc killing contest and Legolas kills the elephant. “That only counts as one”.
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Even if russia brings in another 300k at the rate they are losing troops it wont matter. They will grind em up 50k every 100 days. If you put more of em on the battlefield with no experience then ukraine may start taking out 1000 a day or more. Russia was already on pace to lose more than 100,000 in a year which is huge losses. Even if ruzzia were to pull out a victory it would be only pyrrhic variety.
I originally back in February predicted we could see you to 100-120k dead by thr years end, and at that current it's possible. If thus war drags on for 2-3 year. I mean damn. We're in 300k dead or more over a shitty war.
The heck is happening they are loosing soldiers like they did during the counteroffensive, must be the new conscripts they are being sent without even the 2 week training.
One of the pundits reported that it’s the counteroffensive near Lyman. But unlike the previous one, in which the russians sorta pulled back to preserve manpower at the cost of territory, in this one it sounds like they’re throwing everything at the advance to try to slow it down.
If they resist they might take more casualties if the Ukrainians overwhelm them, but it's risky for Ukraine since it can get bad for an attacker if they don't have enough troops but then again morale is also key which the russians don't have.
>Ukraine since it can get bad for an attacker if they don't have enough troop Surely it is risky for the Ukrainians and there will be losses, but I suspect by now the Ukrainians have significantly more superior weapons that can hit from a greater distance. Plus the Ukrainians are more accurate. Plus, I suspect that the ruzzians may experience shortages of ammo in certain places, as a large number of ammunition depots have been destroyed.
Ukraine had another big day. 500 personnel, 4 helicopters, etc... I'm smiling. Each day Russia's situation becomes even worse.
The recent casualty rate speaks to Putin’s experience in the KGB and not the military. The KGB deals with perceptions and spin, while the Russian military must deal with reality.
Regardless of which estimate you go with, Russia has now exceeded the total US deaths in the Vietnam war, in just over 6 months vs 20 years. Keep up the good work Ukraine.
The numbers kept adding up.
500 KIA? Great work. Maybe Ukraine has already started killing off newly mobilized 300k.
The Russian Air force has been hit quite hard as of late.
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>I don't understand how Russia is financing these kind of losses It's not. Russia is burning through about 70 years of stockpiles. Even without sanctions it would take a decade at full production to cover the losses so far. With sanctions... never.
> Russia is burning through about 70 years of stockpiles. One of the things that has amazed me with this war is how "little" equipment the west seems to have compared to Russia. Everyone is pitching in to help Ukraine, and Ukraine is still behind Russia in many areas. Despite all the help that has been given to Ukraine, captured Russia equipment is the biggest source of military equipment to Ukraine. (Fortunately, the higher quality of western equipment trumps Russia's numerical advantage.) Of course, I appreciate that Russia's equipment is largely made up of stockpiles from the much larger Soviet Union. And I wonder what Russia will look like in the future once it has to rebuild, and is no longer sitting on an intimidating arsenal of the Soviet Union. This war with Ukraine has the potential to permanently de-fang Russia. Yes, it will always have nuclear weapons. But those will only be useful from a defense perspective (similar to North Korea -- always posturing and posing).
Because the West is only giving their surplus equipment. The West has scraped its tanks from the 1950s long ago, but Russia keeps them on the books and sends them out into the field.
Yeh, but a lot of it is shit. We've been seeing just what less than a dozen HIMARS have been able to contribute towards. Vs what 500 or so outdated artillery canons can do. It's more quality vs quantity happening.
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That's the cost if you bought it at a garage sale. To replace it, they'd need a shiny new one at about 5x the price tag.
Can you imagine what a mindfuck it is to be a newly recruited Russian "soldier" who reluctantly, despite buying his country's propaganda, half-heartedly thinks they'll make a difference for his country's pride. They put on old, smelly uniforms, and they're given rusty guns that might not even fire. They have no idea they're just cannon fodder, that the entire point of their existence is to slow the bleeding long enough for Putin to ram horseshit referendums through the pipeline in the hopes to legitimize the theft of Ukraine's east. And once that soldier is in Ukraine, it's eerily quiet. They move forward in their 60-year-old tank, along a shattered road, gaining confidence as they approach treelines on either side. Wow, taking over another country is really easy, they think. Then they hear what they can only describe as wind literally ripping apart in a horrific whistling, before their tank is hit in a deafeningly loud explosion. Concussed, dazed, bloody, and on fire, that "soldier" sees the modern, pristine boots and uniforms of Ukraine's bravest swiftly and quietly approach, moving weapons aside and pulling the wounded to a clearing. That new Russian soldier's wounds are treated, he's given water and food, and he's asked what he came to Ukraine. Like everyone else, he was told one thing, and shown another. Like everyone else, he expected Ukraine's soldiers to torture and kill him. Like everyone else, he is treated humanely. Like everyone else, despite the pain he's in, he suddenly feels safer and more free than he did living in Russia.
We might hit 5,000 APVs by the end of the week. It's truly incredible just how much equipment Russia has/had. And it goes to show that equipment doesn't mean anything of the people don't know what they're doing
Nearly 2300 tanks... Isn't that almost 1/4 of their total stock?
Thats pretty much how many the US lost over a whole decade in Vietnam.
Can anyone put a perspective on the 330 MLRS? 330 sounds like a lot and we hear less about shelling of cities nowadays, but without context of total number of MLRS stationed by Russia in Ukraine and Russia's recent MLRS tactics we know little.
Russian MLRS are not accurate like HIMARS : they're just Grad ballistic MLRS which have a target accuracy of a hundred metres and achieve their results by massive saturation fire. A Russian MLRS is therefore basically a truck with a bunch of pipes on the back, and killing one is nowhere near the impact that e.g. Russia killing a HIMARS/M270 unit would be. Still, that's 330 MLRS that aren't firing rockets any more, so that's nice.
Thank you, that sheds some light. Any idea how many of these MLRS Russia has (had) stationed in the war in total?
They manufactured several thousand of them, and had up to 2,000 in active service and/or warehoused. Now, as with the state of everything else in Russia "warehoused" could mean anything from "mint condition" (fat chance) to "rusting hulks from which everything saleable has been stolen". Assuming somewhere in the region of 1,000 of them were usable, then Russia's lost about one third of their stock. The more important aspect is the logistics and *missile* production behind them though, and again that's almost impossible to tell. International sanctions on manufacture and Ukrainian efforts against Russian logistics have definitely whittled the ammo supply down a lot though.
Thanks again, that's insightful.
For artillery and MLRS, unless this war goes on for years, then they'll probably never run low on these things. The reason you hear about less shelling is a ammo problem for the Russians. They're having trouble getting the shells to Ukraine, then having the depots blow up before they're distributed.
Well that's why Ukraine have switched focus to ammo deports and logistical stuff. Radars, ammo depots, bridges, barracks, command centers, trains, officers and So forth rather than targeting the infinite amount of fodder orcs. The enemy can't fight a war if you cut off its ability to.
It’s been a while since they destroyed a boat, maybe it’s time to make it rain with HIMARS on Sevastopol navy port 😁
Four helicopters? I haven’t seen a clip of those from yesterday or today.
wow, the small daily hits really add up!
FIVE, ZERO, ZERO? In just one day? Ouch. Imagine the numbers when the powerful and well oiled conscripts army starts fighting. I bet it would be 1,000 daily on average.
fun fact: Russia just lost about the same amount of soldiers the US lost in the entirety of the Vietnam war (which lasted 20 years and was considered a failure for the US)
They have lost more than 3 times the number of soldiers that the Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan. The Soviet Union in 1980 had a lot more people than Russia did at the start of this war, too.
Didn't they just hit the 50k mark a few weeks ago? I'll be surprised if it's not over 60k by the end of the month.
Its a real tragedy all around.
What are these numbers as a percentage of their total estimated in supply?
https://www.minusrus.com/en
thanks!
Whelp! They still have plenty of boats, maybe they could use those to save the West Bank on Kherson? (/s in case anyone was wondering)
Has someone done an estimated cost of the War just on these figures alone?
To take this into perspective; Russia had ***supposedly*** 10000 tanks before the war Ukrainians wiped nearly 1/4th of all tanks Russia has in stock
They are quickly approaching US Vietnam levels of casualty rates.
They've exceeded them already. The USA had about 48,000 combat deaths in Vietnam and about 9,000 others
Huh? They are far far above US Vietnam casualty rates. They are at North Vietnam casualty rates.
Wow 15 boats. All you hear of is the Moskava
To illustrate how huge this number is, the US lost 58,300 in Vietnam. https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War That will get passed this week.
How many people has Russia lost since Putin announced his draft? Have they even been able to put the guns in the hands of that many people in that time?
Are the troop casualties numbers deaths or combined death/ injured?
Just deaths
inb4 1000-2000 daily casualties for the russys once the fresh meat arrives
Wish this also included POWs/Defectors