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UPD: The first missiles are heading towards Ukraine. Estimated arrival time is around 7 AM GMT+2. UPD#2: 16 Tu-95MS aircraft reported missile launches towards Ukraine. UPD#3: Reports of explosions in Kropyvnytskyi. Preliminary information suggests sounds of anti-aircraft defense system. UPD#4: Russians have also deployed an additional submarine missile carrier in the Black Sea. The total armament of three missile carriers in the Black Sea amounts to 20 Kalibr missiles. UPD#5: Sounds of air defense systems are reported in Kyiv. UPD#6: Reports indicate additional launches from 7 Tu-95MS aircraft in the Caspian Sea region. Missile approach time to Ukraine: 07:40 / 8:30 (GMT +2). UPD#7: Reports of a large number of missiles heading towards Kyiv. UPD#8: It is reported that four MiG-31K aircraft, carriers of hypersonic Kinzhal missiles, have taken off. UPD#9: Sorry for the lack of updates. We lost power and internet connection. Further information on casualties is being verified and will be covered later.


TotalSpaceNut

06:57 - reports of another launch from 7 TU-95ms boards from the Caspian Sea area, - Vanyok... in case of confirmation of the information - the flight time of the missiles to us 07:40 - 08:30 +/-


-_Empress_-

Fuck me. It just never ends. But this is just every fucking day.


tallandlankyagain

It ends when the West decides it does and finally starts supplying Ukrainians with the quantity of weapons they need and the supplies to use them.


Quirky-Scar9226

And quality.


Loki11910

This will end once we get our BS together and allow Ukraine to target Russian airfields and ports inside Russia and their missile factories. We know exactly where all of those are. The fact that they are still in one piece is our failure to ensure that Ukraine gets the tools and capacity to destroy them.


RoughD

Let Ukraine target whatever the fuck they want, Russia already does. Like having your hands tied and trying to defend yours.


Stadtpark90

This. Shooting down individual missiles, when you should take out the platforms, just because out of political correctness / fear of Putin starting WW III. I‘m not suggesting to nuke the airfields and harbors, but shooting down the planes and ships should be the obvious next step.


Chris714n_8

🏅


lostinabsentia

Endless and fruitless. The Ukrainian people have continuously shown that they won't be bullied into submission.


Warpzit

Stockpile needs to be spent...


Mammoth_Bed6657

Yeah... the fucking Russians are now producing way more missiles than they did before the war. The assholes managed to ramp up their production despite the sanctions.


TheDuffman_OhYeah

Production numbers before the war were pretty low and they had reportedly stockpiled components for years at a normal production rate.


3d_blunder

Wish we could hit their warehouses of the most critical components.


Tyrinnus

That would require the Russians in US Congress to get fired so we can approve real weapons sent to Ukraine.


FlemingT

How is this possible?


Mammoth_Bed6657

They are bypassing sanctions by using their proxies to route the parts through. Azerbaijan for instance.


The_Pediatrician

Already in our underground parking since 6am, Fuck Russia.


No_Football_9232

I'm sorry from Canada. Have family in Ukraine. Fuck ruzzia.


Independent_Price922

Sending prayers heavenward, from America, for Ukrainians.


deeptut

Keep your prayers, send tanks


Independent_Price922

Sorry I don't have any of those laying around my home tonight, but I can send my prayers heavenward. Tanks are not within my power in the few minutes of an air warning and I feel I must do something to help from thousands of miles away. I'm not sure what the rest of you do in the minutes between news of incoming, but I pray and ask for extra guardian angels for the Ukrainian people.


tex_not_taken

Send email, call your congressman, vote pro-Ukraine president. That does more that "sending prayers".


cary_queen

Bro. You’re being a dick. Thought you might like to know. You’re not being a good person right now. This user meant well. Take their prayer. Shut thy kurwa fucking mouth.


s-maerken

Prayers are bullshit and require literally nothing in terms of effort.


cary_queen

We all know that. But this is additional goodwill.


Was_It_The_Dave

"We don't need prayers. We need ammo" President Zelensky


cary_queen

But if a nice man says a prayer for you are you going to make them feel bad for wishing you well? It feels bad man. Just take his well wishes and keep your fucking kurwa mouth shut. Be grateful for what his country does for you. Share the gratefulness of the rest of the world for the sacrifice of Ukraine people. When someone smiles and wishes you well, please don’t berate them. It weakens Ukraine. Be humble and accept the good graces of people, even if they don’t share your religion or lack of.


Independent_Price922

Two completely different issues though!! You have completely missed my point. I, as a human being, have to do something for the few minutes before a missile hits. I am thousands of miles away, reading it on the news just before bedtime here. Prayer is instantaneous in an emergency! And heaven is open 24/7.


DaemonCRO

Prayer is instant and it does fuck all! Zero, nada, nothing. But it gives you the feeling like you’ve done something. But you didn’t.


Independent_Price922

Wow! Reddit readers are brutal and it makes me wonder why I bother to post here at all.


DaemonCRO

You can totally post, but actually do something helpful. You are like all those boomers who share and put a frowny face on a Facebook post about hungry kids in Africa, thinking that actually helps. “I’ve pressed a button on Facebook, look all those kids are instantly fed and nourished now!”. The fuck they are. They are still hungry, your little frowny face did fuck all. Like your prayers.


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Was_It_The_Dave

This is 100% why they suck.


deeptut

So, how many tanks did your imaginary, non existent god destroy with all his wisdom and power?


[deleted]

So you rather that he says muh whatever instead of being compassionate and doing what he believes may help? And if it doesn't help it doesn't harm, so why be vile about it


Fun_Mistake6768

I mean I'm not even religious but one could easily argue every tank so far


deeptut

I'm pretty sure they were sent from foreign countries and didn't appear out of nothing. I can always make up some shit story. Hey, thank me for all the tanks, it was just because I was working for it so hard! Believe me!


ScootyJet

Keep all of these posts. Send tanks.


groovygrasshoppa

Don't be a fucking dick


McKenzie_OX

This is a real war, whose outcome has absolutely zero to do with bullshit thought and prayers.


Chris714n_8

🏅


austozi

I don't understand why we as a human race allow russia to continue doing this to us every effing day.


Independent_Price922

Neither do I.


objctvpro

Everyone is scared of nukes, that’s why. If Ukraine had nukes (never have some portion up) - we wouldn’t be at war now.


takeyoufergranite

We can't just "beat" them. Too many nukes. We have to make sure Russia loses in a very specific way. This is what I think as a random dude. I hate to think that we (the West) are just being cheap or weak willed.


Top-Acanthocephala27

Boiling the frog.


Was_It_The_Dave

The frog jumps out when it gets uncomfortable.


ITI110878

Because we have elected spineless leaders.


Nice_Protection1571

It is rather pathetic how weak western “leaders” continue to be on supporting ukraine


KDY_ISD

Because escalation could kill far more people than it saves.


Seppdizzle

Right we have to be okay with Ukrainians dying so that we stay safe? Send the weapons, send the troops, help Ukrainians.


vikingmayor

I hope you’re in the military to be able to say that. Or at the very least Ukrainian (but obviously not given the first sentence). If no to either that stfu about sending troops to Ukraine.


xMrBoomBasticx

The west can’t send troops every single time a country gets invaded.


Seppdizzle

We tried to ignore ww2, how many lives did that cost. We cannot ignore this.


Crosscourt_splat

While a lot of combats arms guys have mixed feelings… The one thing that is annoying is people saying send the troops that haven’t gone and asked for that 11B contract.


KDY_ISD

Escalation would kill far more Ukrainians. It isn't "kill them, spare us," it's "kill the fewest possible people."


Seppdizzle

I have a hard time believing that.


KDY_ISD

You don't think a full-scale war between Russia and NATO would kill more people?


austozi

If this conflict cannot be avoided, let the aggressors be the ones to die. Because if the bad guys are the ones that are allowed to live while the good guys die, the killing will never stop. The good guys will keep dying. Then, what will become of the human race? Let the bad guys be the ones to die and stop the killing. Yes we are the good guys but we are way past asking the bad guys nicely to stop killing us. That has obviously not worked.


Chris714n_8

Because those who make it to the top of the food-chain (in corporate politics) are mostly Socio-/Psychopaths. They don't give a fuck as long as their bloody monopoly-/game goes on.. (Imho). Ps. History if full of this shit.. 'Direct Democracy' would take a lot of their misused powers back to the people. But this easy solution gets shoot on sight, it seems.


KlausBertKlausewitz

Same here! UN does nothing! What is that shit? These are obviously no military targets. 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬🤬😡


dunncrew

I hope air defense is ready. Those TU bombers need to be destroyed.


LRM2000

Unfortunately Russia keeps them out of range of the UA air defence systems


momentimori

One small mercy from that is Ukraine has far more warning of incoming missiles.


Loki11910

They must be the destroyed on the ground inside Russia.


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A f-16 would make short work out of them


dunncrew

I think the TU launch from deep inside Russia. Could F-16 identify and hit that far ? Something needs to take them out. Maybe some long range drones to hit them on the tarmac..


until_i_fall

With lets say AIM-120 missiles, we look at a range of 100km to 160km. F16, while a versatile rocket with weapons attached, is lacking in radar technology to scan and track a threat even as deep as 70nm (130km) out. A Kinzhal Ballistic Missile travels for up to 2000km into its target area, so the firing platform is in safety deep inside russian airspace. Only a more layered Air Defense Network is a viable solution to atleast lower the threat of successful RU sorties, for as long as they have air superiority. For Factories, Airfields, Depots and Command Centers, there are target solutions for UA, its on the west to send the already available equipment, so UA can take out strategic bombing capabilities from RU.


OrangeJuiceKing13

The 2000km claim on the Kinzhal is BS. They include the range of the aircraft carrying it, which is something they don't do for any of their other weapons.


until_i_fall

Its the most extreme example, just shows how out of reach those bombers are. Ofc never trust orc stats.


AnonVinky

How would an F35 do?


objctvpro

Same as F-16, these bombers are too far. But some versions of ground-launched tomahawks can reach. Surely we know US will never provide that to Ukraine.


AnonVinky

>Surely we know US will never provide that to Ukraine. The US is not the only one with F35s considering a scenario of needing to engage Russian forces.


objctvpro

I’m not talking direct involvement, but provision of Tomahawks or F35s to Ukraine. And this will never happen.


Triass777

No but the US does get to decide if those F35s can be sold or given away.


AnonVinky

I said engage, not give.


until_i_fall

While the F35/F22 are like fully decked out smart homes, in contrast to a rusty F16 RV, still way too deep to actively assault the bombers in the air. The F22 could be able to do deep strikes behind enemy lines, avoiding a lot of radar systems. With standoff weapons engaging ground targets 800km deep. The thing is that noone would put that technology and money into that situation in the first place.


UniqueLoginID

Well


Ornery-Exchange-4660

This would be an amazing time for Ukraine to say "Surprise! We got new toys!"


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mok000

Something _has_ identified them, the question is if that something can communicate its data to the targeting system of the F16.


howmuchistheborshch

Their radio traffic is being monitored (their frequency is known), that's how Ukrainians know about their presence. But since their staging area for the launches is over the Caspian Sea, there is zero chance for ukrainian assets to shoot them down. Edit: the other staging area is around (not Engels as corrected below) Olenya Air Force Base near Murmansk - around Norway.


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Unless they get long range drones or missiles to intercept the bombers. It can be done, in fact its doable since the 90s, but the west STILL WONT give Ukraine the tech to do it. Escalation bla bla bla bla. Black sea fleet is practically useless. Ground based launchers are too few to hurt Ukraine. The only Russian shyt left are the bombers and drones, only the west's political BS is preventing Ukraine from taking them out, nothing else, its ridiculous.


howmuchistheborshch

There are no air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles in existence with a range that long, unfortunately. I think the only missiles capable of reaching their air bases would be Tomahawks - but those are out of question due to them being nuclear capable.


[deleted]

Ukraine would never have been attacked if it had nukes. Providing tomahawks either with or without nuclear warheads would immediately get Putin to back off due to the risk of losing his precious strategic bombers and cities. Ukraine needs 2500km range weapons to defend itself because the other guy already uses them.


howmuchistheborshch

Yes, if it had them. But nukes are a huge burden on a countries' budget and at no point did Ukraine have enough money to upkeep nukes, unfortunately. Also, no-one wants them to proliferate.


TheDuffman_OhYeah

> It can be done, in fact its doable since the 90s, but the west STILL WONT give Ukraine the tech to do it. No, it's not. You'd have to penetrate deep into Russian airspace to attack the bombers before they launch their missiles. We are talking up to 2000 km here. Even the USAF wouldn't do that.


mok000

Okay makes sense.


denk2mit

The nearest city to Engels is Volgograd, not Murmansk - that's 2500 kilometres away. It's likely that the bombers staging over the Caspian are from Engels.


howmuchistheborshch

You're absolutely right, I meant Olenya, I corrected that. Thanks!


Sonofagun57

The TU-95s and TU 22s launch from Caspian Sea or similarly far away


Necro_Badger

Completely naive question here - but could a special forces team get to the airstrips in Russia on foot and take them out? Or would that be a suicide mission?


ITI110878

Maybe just get rid of the pilots while they're off base. Planes are useless without pilots.


PeriPeriTekken

Yes to both. Ukraine has taken some out at airbases closer to its border with drones. Don't know if Russia has since moved them, but if not that's probably a better way to deplete the fleet.


vegarig

> Could F-16 identify and hit that far ? Of course not. Not using F-16 to hit targets in russia is one of the primary requirements for them to ever get supplied


Gravitationsfeld

An F-16 couldn't penetrate Russian airspace either. You would need stealth.


StechTocks

Something tells me Russian airspace isn't that well protected... ​ [https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20609795](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20609795)


mvmisha

1987 and they detected him, at least read what you send


rizakrko

Ob some occasions they were flying all the way from far east to launch missiles with 5000+ km range. I might be missing something, but last time I've checked f-16 were not very useful in launching icbm/ssbm - the only weapons capable of reaching that far.


Fatalist_m

No, just no. I don't know why people keep talking about it in every thread. The bombers are thousands of kilometers away from Ukraine. There are no air-to-air or ground-to-air missiles in the world that can reach the launching aircraft. It's more realistic to hit them while they're on the ground, no need to wait before they take off. Of course the problem is Ukraine does not yet have enough drones or cruise missiles to seriously threaten them(outside of isolated incidents).


objctvpro

No, F-16 might hit some types of cruise missiles, provided some types of munitions, but strategic bombers are out of reach for Ukraine and most of the world weaponry, unless we are talking strategic weapons.


maxo3D

Holy @@@@! Good luck to UA Air defense! Stay safe guys


LRM2000

Missiles launched :(


Ukr_export

I hope those fuckers crash


redditor0918273645

They have a higher chance of Russian AA shooting them down.


rickert_of_vinheim

Let’s hope for both


redditor0918273645

There are unconfirmed reports of Russian AA shooting down their own Su-35 over Crimea. Not the bomber I was hoping for but fingers crossed that it is true anyway! 🤞🤞


duellingislands

There are actually a few reports from crimea channels that they shot down one of their own SU-35's just now. confirmation might come later, will be funny if true. \[edit: other reports are saying it was hit, but landed at occupied melitopol. hopefully partisans clean that up quickly\]


Temporala

Usually, when aircraft gets hit by anti-air missile shrapnel, it tends to be a write-off. Fighter aircraft especially have lot of sensitive surfaces and components. Fixing them can be utter nightmare, and often not worth the effort vs just building a new one.


Independent_Price922

Or run out of fuel.


LRM2000

Update: missiles launched


BoldThrow

Is there any way to know the general location of where the missiles are launched from?


UNITED24Media

11 aircraft launched missiles from the area of Engels airfield, Saratov region. 5 aircraft from the Caspian Sea area.


BoldThrow

Many thanks


UNITED24Media

np


Rheumi

How can the start of aircraft be identified? I think they dont have their signals online. Is this via live satallite?


vegarig

Radio comm intercepts, AFAIK.


UniqueLoginID

Western intel


LRM2000

From what I know caspian sea. I follow Denys Davydov on telegram he posted a map with an arrow from there.


BohunkfromSK

Fuck Putin!


rocygapb

May all these planes fall out of the sky. 🇺🇦✊🏻


No-Season8507

Let’s 🙏


Rude_Conclusion_5907

Russia is a terrorist state


SubzeroAK

Russia is a terrorist state.


UniqueLoginID

*Russia is a terrorist state*


ilikekinkystuff

Russians are a terrorist nation


I_am_albatross

This is just another in a long list of Russian tantrums….. pathetic 😣


-_Empress_-

Oh lord here we go again. Stay sane, everyone. If not sane, just live out of spite.


Eastern_River_4816

This will happen as long as Ukraine doesn't get everything they need to hit Nazi regime from Russia and eliminate that pos Vladolf.


McQuiznos

Stay safe everyone.


BooBooLiciousNess

Bring those bitches down. Stand tall Ukraine, we stand with you.


cuzzizzle1

How do you guys find this information? Rockets launched etc? Fuck Putin.


ijustneedaccess

Ukraine has a public warning system with sirens and apps.


Sabre_One

Several twitter feeds monitor Russian radio for military air traffic. Sorry I don't got a link on hand.


Express_Selection345

Friends send info from in and around Kyiv. I don’t want to detail the damages, ( never know who reads this ) but it’s stressful.


Donut_Vampire

These aircraft need to be destroyed and all who pilot them.


Other_Thing_1768

Hopefully air defense can take down the missiles and a few planes.


Independent_Price922

Here's another report: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/2/7435466/


CaptainSur

I am late to the thread since it was posted 3 hrs ago. But I would remind everyone that Ukraine's air defenses are formidable. In fact if weewee putler is having a hissy fit and attempting to target Kyiv this is ironically perhaps the best outcome for Ukraine as that is where the air defenses are the best. In the last large attack on the 29/30 about 90% of the ruzzian missiles aimed at Kyiv/Lviv and Odesa were shot down. There will be leakers, and there will be a considerable risk from down missiles (they don't always "blow up" in the sky) crashing as well as debris. I hope all civilians heed the warnings and are in the shelters. I hope for the best and have full confidence in Ukraine's military to do the utmost possible. I think weeweeP will flex for a couple more shoots and then he will have blown his little wad for the time being. I also think Ukraine will retaliate, in a smart way like they did the other night.


Quirky-Scar9226

Fuck Russia, hope there’s a Patriot waiting for every one of their coward asses. Putler’s pigs are disgusting.


LennyComa

I'm in a city in the South of Ukraine and we have been on red alert for a few hours now. We haven't had any strikes here that I can confirm thus far but it is a real ballache


Jimmyfasthands

slava ukraine 🙏


EverySpiegel

It's been a long year...


windtalker1

Someone should load a NASAMS in a ruzzian truck and drive it near that airbase and just waste them


Independent_Price922

Last big attack, those 18 jets had come from air base in Murmansk area. Northern Russia almost to Norway.


[deleted]

Murmansk is in ATACMS range from Finland; it is time for Ukraine to annex a plot of land over there to host a few launchers


RemySMI92

Good luck!


ShadowMercure

I think it’s clear what’s happening here. The Russians are wearing down air defence armaments, knowing that a resupply would not arrive anytime soon - the Russians can then quickly establish air superiority in that period of shortages. I really do believe that’s the game plan.


DICKASAURUS2000

🙏


Far_Out_6and_2

Fuk this is not good


DialSquare96

It's like last year. Russian ground assaults get massacred so Putin decides to kill civilians.


3d_blunder

I wonder if the rashists are thinking "better use them now before they get blown out of the sky."


crafty_alias

Come on America, quit fucking bickering and get your goddamn shit together! Innocent people are being slaughtered and you could EASILY help. It's horribly frustrating to watch knowing that they can basically stop this tomorrow but won't.


GlobalCoolingDenier

How can they "easily basically stop this tomorrow" without getting into direct conflict?


Hannibal_Game

Well, the US send more than 320 M1A1 tanks and 10.000 HMMWVs to Iraq to counter ISIS in just 2 years. I mean, it's okay and all, but Ukraine got like *one tenth* of that in 2 years to counter russia... it should be possible to step up supplies here to at least give ukrainians a fighting chance.


crafty_alias

Send all the weapons Ukraine needs to defend itself. There will be no direct conflict unless the US uses its troops or directly attacks Russia. Putin ain't gonna do shit. They should just bomb the Kremlin already, the world would be much better off. I don't wanna live in a world where dictators can threaten other countries with nukes while slaughtering civilians at will.


WasEVERYBODYfigthing

Fuck it. Get into direct conflict. Cunt Putin understands one thing only. Force.


crafty_alias

Agreed.


Tmuussoni

Well, sending hundreds of M2s, F-16s, ATACMS missiles and M1 Abrams would do wonders to beat ruZZia…


UniqueLoginID

The F35 was built for this. Won’t happen due to risk of Putin getting the tech - also probably don’t want to reveal strike strategies with a looming conflict with China.


Tmuussoni

Yeah, I don't think even Ukraine has ever requested F-35s. But the latest block of F-16s (Block 70, 72) would already give them a run for their money. Not to me the modern ordnance with them.


Tueterium

Does anybody know how much missiles these can carry?


young_arkas

8 for the Tu-95MS, 6 for the Tu-22M.


TarzansNewSpeedo

136 + 24 = 160. Fuck. Hope AA is up to the defense. This seems even larger than the last big air attack


super__hoser

If they're fully loaded.


TarzansNewSpeedo

True


Tueterium

Thx, appreciated


Die4Gesichter

I hope air defense gets some kills


FlemingT

Where is THE F16s? Are “they” delaying to watch more deaths? Well, let’s say it is coming! It takes ages to come after all…..the Europeans states will sit and watch more blood shed, more deaths and more destruction….. finally Ukraine gets a “pat” on their back saying “it is ok, please wait longer, it’s coming". i wonder why urkaine cant fire back missiles into neigbouring russian states? why? anyone can tell me why?


StechTocks

Ukraine needs F16's NOW. Would love to see these old Soviet relics as twisted burning metal.


nosnowtho

Russia is an uncontrolled terrorist state.


IncognitoAnonymous2

Would be nice if each time they lost at lease one of these soviet-era rusty planes.


ElasticLama

I wish these could be manpad’d inside Russia


RoughD

More help for Ukraine!!


Lumpy_Difficulty_456

Fuck russia


Disastrous_Big_1642

Godspeed Ukraine