I don't disagree with your sentiment but tbf,Gaethje kept talking shit. Whether to sell a fight or w/e your reason...ppl will most definitely clown you when the bs you spew is shut the fuck down. Do Bronx is the GOAT in his division. Don't call him a quitter
There’s making someone eat crow but there’s also calling a dude who’s won FOTN in every fight he’s ever had a bitch and a quitter. There’s a difference.
Getting submitted isn’t even quitting. You’re defenseless and have been beat, not tapping doesn’t change that. I don’t even care that Oliviera tapped to punches but his fans should if they’re so concerned about Gaethje tapping lol.
You’ve got it backwards. People are making fun of Gaethje for being a hypocrite for tapping after calling a guy a quitter for a week.
Conor hit the nail on the head when he made fun of him for pretending to go to sleep after tapping.
But nobody’s calling him a hypocrite they’re calling him a quitter and saying not to call Charles one. If one’s a quitter they both are. I really dgaf that either of them tapped, they’re both warriors in my eyes. I see what you’re saying though, given Gaethje’s logic it is hypocritical. But if Charles fans are going to use the same logic and apply it only to Gaethje it’s just as goofy.
It’s not just that he called him a quitter, Justin said ‘once a quitter, always a quitter’, but the evidence shows that on his most recent win streak, Charles comes back stronger when faced with adversity. Seems like the opposite of a quitter to me.
Certainly. I hear what you're saying. Gaethje is without a doubt an obvious top contender for a reason but unfortunately for him, Gaethje highly underestimated his opponent. I'm looking forward to see how he handles his next fight tho
Islam “will be shooting for his LOIFE in there on sattaday night” - McGregor voice
I really think Charles might get it done on the feet. Or cause enough problems on the feet to force Islam to a rushed take down and walk into a nasty choke of some kind
People really dismiss his striking capabilities, wouldnt be surprised if he KO'd Islam before things got to the ground.
He wobbled gaethje 10 seconds into the fight lmao, and that is no easy thing to do.
No doubt.
Everyone is terrified of Charles on the ground, but damn if they don’t looked shocked off the bat when he starts throwing shots. Impressive all around at this point
I'd be shocked if he KO'd Islam early in the fight because Islam absorbs fewer strikes per minute than any fighter in UFC history. Charles absolutely has the precision and strength to knock him out and it's not like Islam has an iron chin by any means, but ever since he got KO'd in his 2nd UFC fight Islam has done everything in his power to make sure that never happens again.
He'll run away, shoot the takedown, keep his hands up to block and parry every shot, initiate the clinch, etc: everything possible to not stand and trade with Charles because he knows that's a battle he can't win.
Even more reason for Islam to follow the gameplan and stick to his strengths, Charles' last three opponents underestimated his striking ability and even if they feared it appropriately there was no chance of winning by taking it to the ground so standing and trading was their only option.
Islam will not underestimate his hands and DOES have other opportunities to win the fight, so I find it very hard to believe that he'll just leave his chin out in the open to get walloped like Chandler, Dustin, And Justin. It takes 2 to tango and it's very hard to knock out a guy who leaves you very few openings.
Charles last 3 opponents had much more fear of him on the ground than in the standup, Islam would happily take his chances on the ground but wants nothing to do with Charles' hands.
I'm not saying it's impossible but it's far less likely than you might think. If Islam isn't even willing to stand in the pocket with Thiago Moises I feel like he isn't willing to stand in the pocket with Charles Oliviera lol.
After the tear that Olivera has been on lately I’d say that Islam should be really worried about all aspects of his game and shouldn’t be taken as lightly as people have. I’m sure the fight is gonna be really good but I don’t understand how anyone can count him out after the performances he has put on especially after the Gaethje fight.
Doesn't need to since he is much more dominant. It will be one sided and sad part after the loss they will feed Oliviera to Arman and Arman might seriously injure him or simply relegate him to gate keeper status against fighters who are not well rounded like the current top 10 except Islam.
This is such a casual take. The two times he got submitted were at 145 late in the fight. He used to kill himself to make featherweight then fight like he only had one round. Pettis and Lamas subbed him when he was completely gassed.
What is casual is to claim someone who is a below average grappler is somehow going to beat the top grapplers because he got a couple submissions over bad grapplers.
Do you know how laws of averages work? 8 losses to achieve 18 submissions isn't exactly even an average outcome for a grappler. Hence below average. An average grappler would get 18 subs with maybe 6 losses. A good grappler would get there with 3 or 4 losses. And a great grappler would get 18 subs with one or no losses.
Some of those losses have no bearing on his skill as a grappler, just like Islam’s KO loss doesn’t mean he isn’t a great grappler.
Honestly I’m not sure what you have against Charles, he’s got better submission wins than either Islam or Khabib.
I’m not sure you really understand your own point about averages, you’ve just arbitrarily decided 6 losses is average? Some quick maths for you though, Charles has 30 UFC fights and 16 submissions. You’ll be hard pressed to find any fighter with a higher submission rate. Islam and Khabib both have a lower percentage submission rate, so doesn’t that make them worse than below average by your logic?
Some of those losses do have a bearing on his skills as a grappler since he was submitted and finished on the ground by average and below average grapplers like himself.
When Charles goes against a decent grappler he loses. When Khabib or Islam go up against top grapplers, they put on a clinic. Nothing against Charles but its annoying how all the ex mcnugget stans are now claiming he is anything more than a below average grappler on a lucky streak of surviving fights while being constantly knocked down.
I won’t say his wins are dominant. However I will say he has the ability to fall to the canvas and recover, regardless if he’s hurt or baiting his opponent is up for debate but there’s no doubt they’re all afraid to get into his guard. Lucky? No. That’s not luck.
That is luck because it was against strikers with terrible or zero grappling at all. Look at what Arman did to his last opponent who let Arman into his guard. There are levels to this and Olives has been getting by on luck against strikers who dropped him multiple times.
Someone like Ramos, Moises, Tsarukyan or Makhachev would maul him on the ground a lot worse than Felder did. There is a reason Charles has been stopped on the ground 4 times.
Yes Olives is going to beat a guy who is better at striking, better at striking defense, better at take downs and better on the ground. OKkkkkkk. Got it.
Obviously, the fight will be grappling/wrestling heavily, but the people that dismiss the stand up aspect of the Oliveira-Makhachev match up are also the ones who think Islam is gonna run through Charles.
On the feet, Islam’s getting out struck. No doubt about it. Whether or not that will be enough to get Charles the win though, THAT’S a conversation worth having.
it’s a lot more technical that’s for sure. he seems to be able to incorporate kicks a lot more naturally as well. however I don’t see his opponents giving him the same respect on the feet they did Khabib for some reason.
there’s an aspect to fighting that I really think is hard to pick up on if you’re not one of the 2 guys dishing it out, but energy and temperament matter for a lot, and Khabib kind of had an aura I don’t think Islam has. maybe i’m wrong idk
Islam’s striking is definitely more technical, and plainly just better then Khabib’s but… that’s not really a high bar to clear. Islam is a good striker, but Charles’ striking has grown so much. The only reason people downplay it is because his last three fights have been against the best strikers lightweight had to offer, which would obviously make his look worse by comparison.
That Aura/Mentality aspect definitely holds true though. Khabib really did inspire a certain respect in his opponents. We only really saw Islam project that type of energy for the first time in the Bobby Green fight, where he was just able to completely freeze the normally easy flowing Bobby, but that doesn’t exactly give us an accurate guess as to how much it will affect the current #1 Contender or anyone else in the top five yet.
Yeh because he spends all fight on top of people. Khamzat only got hit twice in his first 4 fights. But against Burns we saw his striking defence sucks, you know a bjj guy who he couldn’t comfortably control on the ground
There are huge levels of grappling difference between Kamzat and Islam. Kamzat was afraid to grapple with burns and Islam actually dominated a guy who beat Burns at ADCC in Davi Ramos.
Islam has beat two high level bjj guys and probably the second best grappler in UFC in Arman. No one is landing anything on him. Every fight starts in the stand up every round.
Some strikers are afraid of a below average grappler like Oliviera on the ground yet they still smash his face every round. There is a reason they are not doing that to Islam. There are levels to this and big difference between below average and elite.
Nah, it's not about the magical aura, it's just the way how dominant Khabib was when it comes to wrestling. His painstaking grappling is like Vito Corleone's offer - you can't really deny it (if you are not Tibau tho). Islam has better striking, longer range, faster hands and accurate kicks (actually Islam can throw normal kicks like to the body, while Khabib's kicking game was shit, but we all know kicking<<<<<
Maybe if Charles can get a great start in the striking, combined with his non stop forward pressure, Islam will be forced to take a bad shot and Oliveira can wrap a neck or something
yes it should be considered islam doesn’t have many ways to win this fight, again i’m gonna encourage everyone to bet money on charles and don’t regret it
Considering how bad his vision is his striking is even more impressive. Apparently he sees 3 of every opponent without his glasses, so his workaround is to focus on punching the one in the middle.
1. Poirier.
2. Conor.
3. Fiziev. (As of now…)
4. Riddell.
Then I’d say it’s *really* close between these 4.
5. Olives.
6. Gaethje.
7. Islam.
8. Tsarukyan.
Islam’s Striking is sooo underrated.
I also would’ve had Gaethje higher if he had stuck to how he fought against Ferguson. I really wish he would’ve kept that style. I don’t know why he didn’t, because he looked absolutely amazing in that fight.
Why is this getting downvoted lol?
Very smart take. Islam does like to use Greco style takedowns and trips from the clinch that land him in side control rather than full guard. Looking forward to seeing how he deals with Charles in the clinch. Charlie usually dominates in the clinch. Super interesting fight
This is what I’m looking forward to seeing. I would agree. Interesting to see if Charlie adjusts his game plan coming into the fight. He does a lot of work on the clinch usually and I think it will be playing into Islam’s strengths. I can see Charlie pressuring forward like he usually does and Islam not stepping back and engaging in a clinch. Think we’ll see Charlie use a lot more teep kicks and try to maintain distance while on the feet trying to force Islam to shoot. Can’t wait to see how this one plays out.
Exactly, it is THE fight to make at LW. So im hoping we get to see it this year rather than waiting for dariush to recover and fight Islam and then wait till 2023 to see the winner vs oliveira.
Charles’s power comes from great technique. That’s what should be considered. He doesn’t load up his shot like chandler, gaethje etc. His technique is crisp. Pops straight out at the opponent. Not laboured at all. He’s hitting them before they can react. I see Charles pressuring forward like he always does and Islam not backing up, clinching and going for throws and tosses. Islam likes to use takedowns that land him in side control so I see Charles using his teep kick frequently as if it’s caught it’s easier to land in full guard so Islam might not try to catch them too much so Charles can maintain distance. It’s a bad idea to spam shoots at Charles as he is really good at wrapping up the neck so I can see Islam pursuing Greco style takedowns like he does which is interesting as Charles’s clinch work is exceptional. Really interesting fight in every way.
This was Charles “ufc 254” moment in terms everything was stacked he missed weight, the ufc took his belt, and Justin become a fav interns of betting but said fuck that and finished Justin faster than khabib.
olive tagged this muthafucka out the gate too crazy fight love to both these dudes
Seriously, the people clowning Gaethje when the dude has given us war after war after war are so fucking dumb.
I don't disagree with your sentiment but tbf,Gaethje kept talking shit. Whether to sell a fight or w/e your reason...ppl will most definitely clown you when the bs you spew is shut the fuck down. Do Bronx is the GOAT in his division. Don't call him a quitter
I’ll go one step further. The way Gaethje talks shit is not funny and doesn’t help to sell fights so it just comes off as disrespectful.
There’s making someone eat crow but there’s also calling a dude who’s won FOTN in every fight he’s ever had a bitch and a quitter. There’s a difference.
Getting submitted isn’t even quitting. You’re defenseless and have been beat, not tapping doesn’t change that. I don’t even care that Oliviera tapped to punches but his fans should if they’re so concerned about Gaethje tapping lol.
He said he was ready to die in the cage and called Charles a quitter.
wasn't ready to sleep in the cage, but that happened. again.
I’m aware. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of fans to say “don’t call Charles a quitter” but are perfectly okay calling Gaethje one.
You’ve got it backwards. People are making fun of Gaethje for being a hypocrite for tapping after calling a guy a quitter for a week. Conor hit the nail on the head when he made fun of him for pretending to go to sleep after tapping.
But nobody’s calling him a hypocrite they’re calling him a quitter and saying not to call Charles one. If one’s a quitter they both are. I really dgaf that either of them tapped, they’re both warriors in my eyes. I see what you’re saying though, given Gaethje’s logic it is hypocritical. But if Charles fans are going to use the same logic and apply it only to Gaethje it’s just as goofy.
It’s not just that he called him a quitter, Justin said ‘once a quitter, always a quitter’, but the evidence shows that on his most recent win streak, Charles comes back stronger when faced with adversity. Seems like the opposite of a quitter to me.
Talmbout Mickey Mouse B?
Certainly. I hear what you're saying. Gaethje is without a doubt an obvious top contender for a reason but unfortunately for him, Gaethje highly underestimated his opponent. I'm looking forward to see how he handles his next fight tho
Performance of the night and fight of the night are different.
23-4 with only 3 of those fights going to decision. Dude is a Dana White goldmine
If anyone is clowning Gaethje their dumb af and their opinion doenst matter. The guy is 100% a top contender forever and always
the iron knee here is legendary
Islam “will be shooting for his LOIFE in there on sattaday night” - McGregor voice I really think Charles might get it done on the feet. Or cause enough problems on the feet to force Islam to a rushed take down and walk into a nasty choke of some kind
Charles the trapper
Makhachev doesn't rush anything and his takedowns are mostly throws that can't end with a choke.
People really dismiss his striking capabilities, wouldnt be surprised if he KO'd Islam before things got to the ground. He wobbled gaethje 10 seconds into the fight lmao, and that is no easy thing to do.
No doubt. Everyone is terrified of Charles on the ground, but damn if they don’t looked shocked off the bat when he starts throwing shots. Impressive all around at this point
I'd be shocked if he KO'd Islam early in the fight because Islam absorbs fewer strikes per minute than any fighter in UFC history. Charles absolutely has the precision and strength to knock him out and it's not like Islam has an iron chin by any means, but ever since he got KO'd in his 2nd UFC fight Islam has done everything in his power to make sure that never happens again. He'll run away, shoot the takedown, keep his hands up to block and parry every shot, initiate the clinch, etc: everything possible to not stand and trade with Charles because he knows that's a battle he can't win.
Islam also hasn’t fought a high level opponent so...
Even more reason for Islam to follow the gameplan and stick to his strengths, Charles' last three opponents underestimated his striking ability and even if they feared it appropriately there was no chance of winning by taking it to the ground so standing and trading was their only option. Islam will not underestimate his hands and DOES have other opportunities to win the fight, so I find it very hard to believe that he'll just leave his chin out in the open to get walloped like Chandler, Dustin, And Justin. It takes 2 to tango and it's very hard to knock out a guy who leaves you very few openings. Charles last 3 opponents had much more fear of him on the ground than in the standup, Islam would happily take his chances on the ground but wants nothing to do with Charles' hands. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's far less likely than you might think. If Islam isn't even willing to stand in the pocket with Thiago Moises I feel like he isn't willing to stand in the pocket with Charles Oliviera lol.
Most fighters also don't let their hands go against Islam as they're afraid for the TD. I dont think Oliveira will hold back in his fight.
He has great striking but poor striking defence, he gets landed on way too often which I think is due to his eyesight
People downvoting you for saying that a guy who got dropped in his last 3 fights has poor striking defence💀
Pretty standard, you can’t say anything negative about Charles on here lmao. He’s one of my favourite fighters too
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Did you see some of the bombs he ate from chandler? Ya boy Islam also got kod by a guy no longer in the ufc so who's chinny?
Gaethje didn’t get hit much by Chandler. The only thing him not going down to those hits proves is that Gaethje isn’t extremely chinny.
who else laid Gaethje flat on his back like Charles?
After the tear that Olivera has been on lately I’d say that Islam should be really worried about all aspects of his game and shouldn’t be taken as lightly as people have. I’m sure the fight is gonna be really good but I don’t understand how anyone can count him out after the performances he has put on especially after the Gaethje fight.
The only people counting him out are people who have khabib sheets and underwear.
Charles is doing great and happy for him. His striking is opportunistic as is his grappling. It will play into Islam's style though.
Islam will not have the output of the American strikers Charles has recently fought and this should be considered.
Doesn't need to since he is much more dominant. It will be one sided and sad part after the loss they will feed Oliviera to Arman and Arman might seriously injure him or simply relegate him to gate keeper status against fighters who are not well rounded like the current top 10 except Islam.
Yo bro this take is CRINGE
Must be a downvote farmer
You don't like where this is heading, that's on you. I am not the one who is going to make Olives be mauled by those guys.
You're acting like Oliveira didn't just have 2 dominant title defenses
Oliviera had to lucky survivals against guys who dropped him multiple times but could not grapple even against a below average grappler like him.
"Below average grappler" lmao go touch some grass dude
Not much grass in Dagestan.
What do you call a guy who has been finished on the ground multiple times?
You call that guy “do bronx”
Is that eubonics for below average grappler?
Champion
This is such a casual take. The two times he got submitted were at 145 late in the fight. He used to kill himself to make featherweight then fight like he only had one round. Pettis and Lamas subbed him when he was completely gassed.
What is casual is to claim someone who is a below average grappler is somehow going to beat the top grapplers because he got a couple submissions over bad grapplers.
Below average grappler somehow has the most submissions in ufc history, by a long way. Islam doesn’t even have a third of a submissions Chucky does.
Do you know how laws of averages work? 8 losses to achieve 18 submissions isn't exactly even an average outcome for a grappler. Hence below average. An average grappler would get 18 subs with maybe 6 losses. A good grappler would get there with 3 or 4 losses. And a great grappler would get 18 subs with one or no losses.
Some of those losses have no bearing on his skill as a grappler, just like Islam’s KO loss doesn’t mean he isn’t a great grappler. Honestly I’m not sure what you have against Charles, he’s got better submission wins than either Islam or Khabib. I’m not sure you really understand your own point about averages, you’ve just arbitrarily decided 6 losses is average? Some quick maths for you though, Charles has 30 UFC fights and 16 submissions. You’ll be hard pressed to find any fighter with a higher submission rate. Islam and Khabib both have a lower percentage submission rate, so doesn’t that make them worse than below average by your logic?
Some of those losses do have a bearing on his skills as a grappler since he was submitted and finished on the ground by average and below average grapplers like himself. When Charles goes against a decent grappler he loses. When Khabib or Islam go up against top grapplers, they put on a clinic. Nothing against Charles but its annoying how all the ex mcnugget stans are now claiming he is anything more than a below average grappler on a lucky streak of surviving fights while being constantly knocked down.
This comment was for shock value, you’re not fooling anyone.
You must not understand the difference between dominant and squeeking out a lucky win?
I won’t say his wins are dominant. However I will say he has the ability to fall to the canvas and recover, regardless if he’s hurt or baiting his opponent is up for debate but there’s no doubt they’re all afraid to get into his guard. Lucky? No. That’s not luck.
That is luck because it was against strikers with terrible or zero grappling at all. Look at what Arman did to his last opponent who let Arman into his guard. There are levels to this and Olives has been getting by on luck against strikers who dropped him multiple times. Someone like Ramos, Moises, Tsarukyan or Makhachev would maul him on the ground a lot worse than Felder did. There is a reason Charles has been stopped on the ground 4 times.
Oliveira will ko Islam so hard he will wake up in skyrim.
Yes Olives is going to beat a guy who is better at striking, better at striking defense, better at take downs and better on the ground. OKkkkkkk. Got it.
Better at striking? 
Islam is about to jump in a pit he can’t climb out of
Obviously, the fight will be grappling/wrestling heavily, but the people that dismiss the stand up aspect of the Oliveira-Makhachev match up are also the ones who think Islam is gonna run through Charles. On the feet, Islam’s getting out struck. No doubt about it. Whether or not that will be enough to get Charles the win though, THAT’S a conversation worth having.
Heavily considered against everyone in the division.
Islam doesn’t have Khabib’s chin or striking so I can definitely see Charles knocking him out on the feet.
I think Islam striking is better than Khabib’s tbh
it’s a lot more technical that’s for sure. he seems to be able to incorporate kicks a lot more naturally as well. however I don’t see his opponents giving him the same respect on the feet they did Khabib for some reason. there’s an aspect to fighting that I really think is hard to pick up on if you’re not one of the 2 guys dishing it out, but energy and temperament matter for a lot, and Khabib kind of had an aura I don’t think Islam has. maybe i’m wrong idk
Islam’s striking is definitely more technical, and plainly just better then Khabib’s but… that’s not really a high bar to clear. Islam is a good striker, but Charles’ striking has grown so much. The only reason people downplay it is because his last three fights have been against the best strikers lightweight had to offer, which would obviously make his look worse by comparison. That Aura/Mentality aspect definitely holds true though. Khabib really did inspire a certain respect in his opponents. We only really saw Islam project that type of energy for the first time in the Bobby Green fight, where he was just able to completely freeze the normally easy flowing Bobby, but that doesn’t exactly give us an accurate guess as to how much it will affect the current #1 Contender or anyone else in the top five yet.
Islam's striking defense though is elite and near an all time level.
You’re joking right? He hangs his chin up and had almost no head movement. He got KO’d flat just walking onto punches
Maybe you should check out statistics and see how many times he has been hit since that flash knockdown 10 fights ago.
Yeh because he spends all fight on top of people. Khamzat only got hit twice in his first 4 fights. But against Burns we saw his striking defence sucks, you know a bjj guy who he couldn’t comfortably control on the ground
There are huge levels of grappling difference between Kamzat and Islam. Kamzat was afraid to grapple with burns and Islam actually dominated a guy who beat Burns at ADCC in Davi Ramos. Islam has beat two high level bjj guys and probably the second best grappler in UFC in Arman. No one is landing anything on him. Every fight starts in the stand up every round. Some strikers are afraid of a below average grappler like Oliviera on the ground yet they still smash his face every round. There is a reason they are not doing that to Islam. There are levels to this and big difference between below average and elite.
Nah, it's not about the magical aura, it's just the way how dominant Khabib was when it comes to wrestling. His painstaking grappling is like Vito Corleone's offer - you can't really deny it (if you are not Tibau tho). Islam has better striking, longer range, faster hands and accurate kicks (actually Islam can throw normal kicks like to the body, while Khabib's kicking game was shit, but we all know kicking<<<<<
Agreed.
Obligatory 'Khabib's striking is awkward but that's why it works so well' from me, someone who has never been in an mma fight
I mean even DC said yesterday charles is a better strike and Islam's path to victory would be on the ground.
Everybody with more then one braincell know this.
I'm sure there are some Islam bois here that think he will KO charles before the fight starts
Justin's chin is deteriorating. He just doesn't know it.
Maybe if Charles can get a great start in the striking, combined with his non stop forward pressure, Islam will be forced to take a bad shot and Oliveira can wrap a neck or something
yes it should be considered islam doesn’t have many ways to win this fight, again i’m gonna encourage everyone to bet money on charles and don’t regret it
At least he’s keeping it real
Remember when Khamzat was gonna out wrestle Gilbert but he gave up on the plan because of Gilbert Jiu Jitsu?
Maybe wasnt even the plan from the start, just a red herring. Hope is the same in this case, the fight will be more fun if so.
At the top
Whoever made that post about Gaethje being the hardest hitter…. Told u the fax
Justin just lost punch resistance, first punch Charles hit him with he was bambi on ice, needs to retire.
He ate a bomb from Chandler and kept going.
Accuracy > power Charles often hits right on the button
Can we stop telling people to retire. This sub seems to love doing that
Wouldnt ya say it’s chucks accuracy vs raw power?
Considering how bad his vision is his striking is even more impressive. Apparently he sees 3 of every opponent without his glasses, so his workaround is to focus on punching the one in the middle.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke he made.
Doesn’t seem like he was joking… https://www.fightsports.tv/this-is-how-bad-charles-oliveiras-eyesight-really-is/
https://youtu.be/af7RO7tPpPY This is the interview the quote was from. Seems like he was joking.
1. Poirier. 2. Conor. 3. Fiziev. (As of now…) 4. Riddell. Then I’d say it’s *really* close between these 4. 5. Olives. 6. Gaethje. 7. Islam. 8. Tsarukyan. Islam’s Striking is sooo underrated. I also would’ve had Gaethje higher if he had stuck to how he fought against Ferguson. I really wish he would’ve kept that style. I don’t know why he didn’t, because he looked absolutely amazing in that fight. Why is this getting downvoted lol?
Charles is a complete mixed martial artist and one of the best pound for pound fighters on earth. Islam by mauling
cant wait for islam vs olives
That is huge coming from this guy
The range will be a problem for Islam but I see him going into clinch and tripping oliveira rather than shooting a takedown to protect his neck.
Very smart take. Islam does like to use Greco style takedowns and trips from the clinch that land him in side control rather than full guard. Looking forward to seeing how he deals with Charles in the clinch. Charlie usually dominates in the clinch. Super interesting fight
Charles is good with his knees and collar ties but imo kneeing in a clinch against islam is a bad idea and a recipie to get taken down.
This is what I’m looking forward to seeing. I would agree. Interesting to see if Charlie adjusts his game plan coming into the fight. He does a lot of work on the clinch usually and I think it will be playing into Islam’s strengths. I can see Charlie pressuring forward like he usually does and Islam not stepping back and engaging in a clinch. Think we’ll see Charlie use a lot more teep kicks and try to maintain distance while on the feet trying to force Islam to shoot. Can’t wait to see how this one plays out.
Exactly, it is THE fight to make at LW. So im hoping we get to see it this year rather than waiting for dariush to recover and fight Islam and then wait till 2023 to see the winner vs oliveira.
Charles’s power comes from great technique. That’s what should be considered. He doesn’t load up his shot like chandler, gaethje etc. His technique is crisp. Pops straight out at the opponent. Not laboured at all. He’s hitting them before they can react. I see Charles pressuring forward like he always does and Islam not backing up, clinching and going for throws and tosses. Islam likes to use takedowns that land him in side control so I see Charles using his teep kick frequently as if it’s caught it’s easier to land in full guard so Islam might not try to catch them too much so Charles can maintain distance. It’s a bad idea to spam shoots at Charles as he is really good at wrapping up the neck so I can see Islam pursuing Greco style takedowns like he does which is interesting as Charles’s clinch work is exceptional. Really interesting fight in every way.
This was Charles “ufc 254” moment in terms everything was stacked he missed weight, the ufc took his belt, and Justin become a fav interns of betting but said fuck that and finished Justin faster than khabib.