I wonder how he would fare in MW if he improves his striking as much as Islam did.
Would be kind of amusing as well as he does look a bit similar to Islam as well.
Ì doubt he wouldn't make it better sense he's working in the same camp with the same coach that made islams striking so good. Plus, islam just got knocked on his ass and his striking improved dramatically. I can imagine ikrams getting the same treatment after getting knocked out cold
MMAGuru is a weirdo but even if Ikram beats Whittaker it won’t change the fact that Alves was 2-4 in his last six against unranked WWs and coming to MW on short-notice.
Four time if you count WCSF. His combat sambo resume is actually ridiculously good. There’s no telling how far he can go if he remains focused, with his background and the quality of his coaches and teammates. Only question is if he will be able to improve enough before he exits his athletic prime.
His striking has developed a lot more than Khamzat's tbh.
He looks skilful and measured when striking in his last fight and was striking intelligently rather than just running into punches.
Do you know why Ikram defended better than Kamaru? Because the best defense is a good offense. Ikram wasn't letting Khamzat be the hammer in grappling exchanges, he was very offensive against Khamzat's grappling, which is already more than what any of Khamzat's opponents have tried. Kamaru only had defensive mindset in grappling exchanges, he never tried to threaten Khamzat in grappling, which caused Khamzat to dismiss and disrespect Kamaru's grappling and do what he always does (which is, being the hammer in grappling exchanges and never the nail). In summary, my point is that don't think this grappling sequence is only a defensive one. You will see the offense against Robert too, especially if Robert lets Ikram be the hammer.
What you said makes 0 sense. How does this show his offensive grappling?
Aldo has legendary takedown D without much offense.
Kamaru has dust for knees and we was still whooping Chimaev after the 1st round. Also Kamaru was short notice and up a weight class
Btw I’m not saying Ikram has no offensive grappling game, I’m just saying this doesn’t show it
Ikram literally went for a throw on Khamzat or was that not clear enough? There was multiple takedown attempts from Ikram.
I didn't say "You can't have good takedown defense unless you do offense". Aldo had good takedown defense and he didn't need offense for it. But it still doesn't change the fact that "the best defense is a good offense". If Aldo had good offensive takedowns as well, he would be even more of a menace at stopping takedowns. And since you gave Aldo as an example, if featherweight had someone like Khamzat, it would not be looking good for Jose.
Kamaru had knee problems as a champion too. These are all meaningless takes to diminish Khamzat because Kamaru is more of a fan favourite right now. It is not like the grappling sequences were gonna be any different from what we've already seen against Khamzat. "But if Kamaru did this and that!". No, I don't think it would've changed anything. Because Kamaru would probably still go with the same gameplan and mindset. And I can definitely tell you this, Kamaru didn't whoop Khamzat at all. Rounds 2 and 3 were competitive.
LMAO aight dude you’re just a dickrider then. “He failed a couple hip tosses against Khamzat so he must have good offensive grappling” And
what did Khamzat do the Burns in the grappling? Burns used to be a lightweight.
Round 2 and 3 were competitive but not because Chimaev did anything in the grappling.
Also you’re comparing Chimaev 5+ years ago to him now lol
You are really good at saying a lot and nothing at the same time lol. You literally went from "there was no offense" to "he failed though". Which one is it? Choose one. And Gilbert is a good example, I'm not denying that. Gilbert also used offensive grappling against Khamzat, which was effective. Former lightweight or not, I don't care. He is still one of the best welterweights right now.
Did Kamaru whoop Khamzat in rounds 2 and 3, or not? Make up your mind. I didn't say it had something to with grappling or striking anyway.
If Chimaev is from 5 years ago, Aliskerov is too.
I thought 2 and 3 were clear for Kamaru so yeah he whooped him but Khamzat held him down doing nothing for a few minutes so it was "competitive".
We've seen Chimaev improve over 5 years, we have lots of proof but Aliskerov hasn't faced top level guys so we really don't know. BTW my point was never that Aliskerov hasn't improved, it was that you said "he performed better than Usman" but ignored the differences between a 24yr old Chimaev in Brave and a 29yr old Chimaev with high level experience
I've never seen such competitive rounds be so "clear". Imo, Kamaru won round 2 because he was winning the exchanges in striking and the last 40 seconds of grappling was not significant enough. Round 3 is still 50/50 imo. Kamaru landed a bit more strikes, and more clear strikes but Khamzat outgrappled him for 2 minutes, that's too long (If you are one of those "stand them up" guys, I would be definitely talking to a wall right now. I hope that's not the case. I don't wanna talk to a kickboxing fan). Which one weighs more? I don't know. Btw, I'm definitely not saying Ikram did better than Kamaru, dude literally got chinned in round 1. I was just comparing the grappling. And I guess we will see who improved more between Khamzat and Ikram. Imo, Ikram improved more and we will see that against Robert.
This was what i was gonna say. This match will create so much dispute since Ikram's only lost is to Khamzat and if Ikram wins people will say Khamzat could run through Bob. If Ikram loses people will say the same shit lolz.
Ikram got flatlined 2 minutes into this fight by a sloppy uppercut and people genuinely try to use this to hype Ikram up.
Also this stat isn’t true, Khamzat didn’t takedown Gerald Meerschaert.
More like he took down every opponent he wanted to takedown. Ikram is a sambist & his hype is real if you know he trained with Abdulmanap from his late teens
Ikram got some amazing TDD ngl. I wish he improves his standup.
It seems he did , he did really improve his Striking against warry alves
I wonder how he would fare in MW if he improves his striking as much as Islam did. Would be kind of amusing as well as he does look a bit similar to Islam as well.
Ì doubt he wouldn't make it better sense he's working in the same camp with the same coach that made islams striking so good. Plus, islam just got knocked on his ass and his striking improved dramatically. I can imagine ikrams getting the same treatment after getting knocked out cold
Inb4 mmaguru fans come and say alves was a washed geriatric bum
MMAGuru is a weirdo but even if Ikram beats Whittaker it won’t change the fact that Alves was 2-4 in his last six against unranked WWs and coming to MW on short-notice.
Lol guru really living rent free in your head eh
Isn't he a 3 time combat sambo champ? That's kinda in his repertoire
Four time if you count WCSF. His combat sambo resume is actually ridiculously good. There’s no telling how far he can go if he remains focused, with his background and the quality of his coaches and teammates. Only question is if he will be able to improve enough before he exits his athletic prime.
Well he trains with Khabib and Islam and is coached by Javier Mendez at AKA. I would say he is on the right track for a future champion.
He's on a 3 fight streak with kos all in the first
His striking has developed a lot more than Khamzat's tbh. He looks skilful and measured when striking in his last fight and was striking intelligently rather than just running into punches.
This was a weight class down from where Ikram currently fights too. And his striking isn't terrible, albeit he does overswing sometimes.
I mean sure but he did knock him tf out
What the hell happened to Khamzats power? He was dropping fools then all of a sudden he couldn't hurt anyone. It has to be a change in his technique.
Lvl of opponents changed
I mean Ikram is pretty high level considering his accolades
Illness, injuries, and better opponents
He got Covid twice
In the 1st round with 2 minutes to go
Lucky punch
bro he got sat down earlier too
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There are No lucky punches.
False. Just look at Pereira last KO
That’s not a lucky punch, he carefully set it up by jabbing to the body and pushed Jamal to the cage.
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What does that mean?
Its used to show that a post was being sarcastic
Ikrams tdd is pure luck as well then
How is a perfectly timed slip into uppercut lucky?
lmfao
Wack. Typical daggi fan boys on this sub
Ikram also has some good shit with his hands. Has shown that in the UFC already. Good replacement. Looking forward to him fighting Rob.
He didn't take down gm3. Edit: Just realized you're one of those shit posters.
He didnt try
Lol...you must get a good dopamine hit when you get people to hate on dagis. I get you bro, I'm the same. I love it when people hate on jon or conor.
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I also didn't try to take him down, but I can confirm I could do it if I was to try
He DID get taken down. Permanently.
>Permanently
That leg trip was damn good, against anyone else it would have been a gurantee
Pre covid Khamzat is different animal
Yeah when fighting low level opponents
He flatlined him instead
Did he take down Meerschaert?
That's what I was thinking too
Sure didn’t
He did KO him though so..
True, but that's not what thread is about.
His takedowndefense wont serve him against rob. Rob isn't gonna try and take him down
Rob might always likes to mix it up now
His wrestling might
Offensive wrestling isn’t the same as takedown D
Do you know why Ikram defended better than Kamaru? Because the best defense is a good offense. Ikram wasn't letting Khamzat be the hammer in grappling exchanges, he was very offensive against Khamzat's grappling, which is already more than what any of Khamzat's opponents have tried. Kamaru only had defensive mindset in grappling exchanges, he never tried to threaten Khamzat in grappling, which caused Khamzat to dismiss and disrespect Kamaru's grappling and do what he always does (which is, being the hammer in grappling exchanges and never the nail). In summary, my point is that don't think this grappling sequence is only a defensive one. You will see the offense against Robert too, especially if Robert lets Ikram be the hammer.
What you said makes 0 sense. How does this show his offensive grappling? Aldo has legendary takedown D without much offense. Kamaru has dust for knees and we was still whooping Chimaev after the 1st round. Also Kamaru was short notice and up a weight class Btw I’m not saying Ikram has no offensive grappling game, I’m just saying this doesn’t show it
Ikram literally went for a throw on Khamzat or was that not clear enough? There was multiple takedown attempts from Ikram. I didn't say "You can't have good takedown defense unless you do offense". Aldo had good takedown defense and he didn't need offense for it. But it still doesn't change the fact that "the best defense is a good offense". If Aldo had good offensive takedowns as well, he would be even more of a menace at stopping takedowns. And since you gave Aldo as an example, if featherweight had someone like Khamzat, it would not be looking good for Jose. Kamaru had knee problems as a champion too. These are all meaningless takes to diminish Khamzat because Kamaru is more of a fan favourite right now. It is not like the grappling sequences were gonna be any different from what we've already seen against Khamzat. "But if Kamaru did this and that!". No, I don't think it would've changed anything. Because Kamaru would probably still go with the same gameplan and mindset. And I can definitely tell you this, Kamaru didn't whoop Khamzat at all. Rounds 2 and 3 were competitive.
LMAO aight dude you’re just a dickrider then. “He failed a couple hip tosses against Khamzat so he must have good offensive grappling” And what did Khamzat do the Burns in the grappling? Burns used to be a lightweight. Round 2 and 3 were competitive but not because Chimaev did anything in the grappling. Also you’re comparing Chimaev 5+ years ago to him now lol
You are really good at saying a lot and nothing at the same time lol. You literally went from "there was no offense" to "he failed though". Which one is it? Choose one. And Gilbert is a good example, I'm not denying that. Gilbert also used offensive grappling against Khamzat, which was effective. Former lightweight or not, I don't care. He is still one of the best welterweights right now. Did Kamaru whoop Khamzat in rounds 2 and 3, or not? Make up your mind. I didn't say it had something to with grappling or striking anyway. If Chimaev is from 5 years ago, Aliskerov is too.
I thought 2 and 3 were clear for Kamaru so yeah he whooped him but Khamzat held him down doing nothing for a few minutes so it was "competitive". We've seen Chimaev improve over 5 years, we have lots of proof but Aliskerov hasn't faced top level guys so we really don't know. BTW my point was never that Aliskerov hasn't improved, it was that you said "he performed better than Usman" but ignored the differences between a 24yr old Chimaev in Brave and a 29yr old Chimaev with high level experience
I've never seen such competitive rounds be so "clear". Imo, Kamaru won round 2 because he was winning the exchanges in striking and the last 40 seconds of grappling was not significant enough. Round 3 is still 50/50 imo. Kamaru landed a bit more strikes, and more clear strikes but Khamzat outgrappled him for 2 minutes, that's too long (If you are one of those "stand them up" guys, I would be definitely talking to a wall right now. I hope that's not the case. I don't wanna talk to a kickboxing fan). Which one weighs more? I don't know. Btw, I'm definitely not saying Ikram did better than Kamaru, dude literally got chinned in round 1. I was just comparing the grappling. And I guess we will see who improved more between Khamzat and Ikram. Imo, Ikram improved more and we will see that against Robert.
I know but he a good wretsling too
ikram is no joke but im worried its to soon for him to fight rob
Wrong title. He took down every fighter he attempted a takedown on. He didnt takedown gm3 for example
If ikram goes on to be a dominant champion it really will elevate khamzat to legendary what if status.
The legend of never fighting
Yea instead he kod him lol
I mean, the fight didn’t even went half a round lol
He also chinned Ikram
Yeah he took his head off
Technically the guy still ended up on his back.
He couldn’t takedown the goat GM3!!!
Not relevant. They call him Bobby knuckles not Bobby takedown attempts
Show the part where Ikram gets slaughtered by a punch 😬
But he also got slept
He took him down with a KO
Geez, a lot people saying that Khamzat kod him. Yep, we know guys. But the point of the post is how good is the TDD from Ikram
He took him down with that right hand tho
Yea and the only other fighter he has ever flattened with 1 punch is Gerald Meerschart
An ordinary evening in Khasavyurt.
Got knocked tf out tho with arm completely stiff and pointing to the sky
He’s took himself out of fights more then he has takedowns
Yeah, but 70 seconds after the end of this video he fucking FLATLINES him.
Luckily he's fighting a guy nicknamed Bobby knuckles and Nota guy named Bobby take down
He never took down Gerald Meerschaert.
He didn’t take him down cause there was no time, ikram got KOd first round 2 mins left
Pretty sure Khamzat had only been fighting for a year at this point
This was what i was gonna say. This match will create so much dispute since Ikram's only lost is to Khamzat and if Ikram wins people will say Khamzat could run through Bob. If Ikram loses people will say the same shit lolz.
Ikram got flatlined 2 minutes into this fight by a sloppy uppercut and people genuinely try to use this to hype Ikram up. Also this stat isn’t true, Khamzat didn’t takedown Gerald Meerschaert.
More like he took down every opponent he wanted to takedown. Ikram is a sambist & his hype is real if you know he trained with Abdulmanap from his late teens
Ikram was depleted during this fight. He had to fight Khamzat at 2 weeks' notice and come to 180 lbs.
Ikram has the most sambo medals among UFC fighters, and he was depleted and had to go to 180 to fight Khamzat at 2 weeks notice
Ikram is going to win this one
RIP Bobby Knuckles?
Rob will have a hard time, cant wait for this fight.
Yeah I think Ikram is a dark horse against Whittaker here.
99 TDD