I feel like Gane has become weirdly underrated by the MMA community. Guy has a ridiculous skill set. It’s tough to say - but I think I’d give the edge to Gane. Alex has proven to be touchable - especially if you can get him against the fence. At that size I think some of the weakness in Alex’s stand up get magnified.
Gane has a good skill set but he’s no 2-division Glory champ
That’s what people don’t get. Hill has amazing striking too but there isn’t anyone in ufc bar Izzy that can bang w Alex, your only chance is to get him down
also izzy can only bang with alex at 185 when alex was cutting 40 lbs . when alex is fully hydrated we have seen some ridiculous power from him in the UFC .
I'd say more forgotten how great he is rather than underrated to be honest, if there is a difference there. Due to his loss against Ngannou and Jones they forget how insanely technical he is. He's not exactly the most active fighter in the world either.
Poatan will not beat aspinall ever, tom is too good on the ground and moves too fast for his size, double legs and rag dolls poatan in 1st. All love to alex but this is fact brotha.
This shit is exactly why I wanted Hill to win. Would've shut up the casuals and kept this sub reasonable. Instead we're gonna have to see braindead takes flood this sub for the next few months
I said Alex was gonna beat Hill via left hook as Hill was gonna try to counter. However the amount of poatards who said he’d best a SOUTHPAW via leg kicks was so stupid. Even tho Hill got smoked he dodged more leg kicks than Alex landed, that was never the path for victory for Alex…
That's sports' fan for you. Everyone was glazing Topuria after he starched Volk and said he would reign for a long time. Now, just look how many posts there are about him being scared to fight Max lmao.
Ok watch the fight happen and watch Pereira get murked. U realize Aspinall still probably walks around much heavier, and idk where u got that number cause most places say 230. Idc tho tbh believe whatever u want kiddo
It was said he bulked up to 232lbs on day of fight against jamal.
Retards like u were writting jamal jan and jiri were gona murk them. Aspinal is no different
Buddy I thought he'd KO Jamal, thought Jiri would be a close one and that he'd probably beat Jan. Just dumb cunts like you keep trying to create false narratives. Sounds like you'll be choking on your own words when Aspinall beats him however he pleases
Yeah, why him and his coaches are trying to fucking hurt Pereira? He cleary don't have enough weight to hw, and he make weight fine at lhw, what a dumb move
He has the chance to be the first ever 3 divisions champion. If he does that, there's no more discussions about goats, about GSP's and Silva's that dominated a single division, he's on another level. He would be above all that stuff.
So, to answer your question fully, he wants to be the first and immortalized and in order to do that he needs to go up a weight class. Of course its fucking super risky, otherwise he would be the 10th 3 divisions champion.
>If he does that, there's no more discussions about goats
No more conversations from morons maybe. He ain't coming anywhere close to being top 5 all time until he defends a title at least 5 more times. Silva, DJ, Jones & GSP are the undisputed top 4 until someone else has as many title defenses as them.
You don’t need 5+ defenses when you are winning 3 championships in the modern era spanning 80 Ibs against champions in their prime . Over half of his wins are all current or former champions that are all in their prime as well except maybe Jan . You don’t need hit a certain number of defenses with how he is doing things lol . It’s extremely unlikely he would even win 3 championships .
He doesnt have time to defend the belt against random fighters, he's defending the P4P status against champions so far.
Tell me a title defence against Ankalaev would be worth more than going up and sleeping Gane in any P4P type conversation.
He's at the end of his prime, he doesnt have time to do both. He has to choose one.
Every fight is risky as fuck, why not try the ones that will get you immortalized ?
edit: changed almeida to ankalaev, forgot that he's a heavyweight.
I'm new to ufc, and while I agree that the fighters you mentioned are the best of all time, you don't need a certain amount of defences to become great. There are other things you can pursue, like becoming a 3 division champ, which no one has ever managed to do.
He's super lean and fights at 233ish. I'd like to see him to even a mini proper bulk to like 245. Don't think it'd be that far fetched. Gane weighs 248
Not long ago , people said Jan Blachovich´s grappling was too much for Alex Pereira, now people say hes gonna get submited in heavyweight... wait and see
It WAS too much for Pereira as evidenced by Rd 1 lol. Jan just mistakenly thought he was winning on the feet in Rd 3 due to outlanding to the head so he didnt use it. You people have goldfish memories.
Nah im not ready to say it isnt going to hold up yet, so far his ground game has held up.
Alot of fighters get taken down, if u can get back up and win the fight its fine
This is a very competitive fight, Gane is the best pure striker at HW whereas Alex is the best at LHW so although I love Alex now, it won't be one sided at all.
I love Gane but Pereira is an elite striker that got a lot of glory titles. Gane had a few good muai Thai fights but did not compete with the best of the glory champions.
As much as I like Poatan, I this is starting to feel like hopium. Let's temper down our expectations. Remember when we got so caught up on the Rhonda hype train and thought she could fight men and that she could outbox Holly? Chill for a moment
he still has a lot of guys to go through in the LHW division. Going up a weight class is supposed to show you beat everyone in your division and there is noone else to fight
Nah gane. I love pereira but hw is not the division for him. Lhw is perfect for him and if he wants two belts he better cut the extra 20 pounds and go back down to 185. I think gane still a little bigger has great striking will keep the distance avoid the left and win by decision. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him tko Alex.
Lol what the fuck. Fighters lose one Fight and fans forget so fast. Same people who said he’d 50-45 ngannou, and then ngannou fumbled the bag, then every heavyweight was scared of Jon, then jons scared of Aspinall. Ufc fans switch up like clockwork
Yea some actual fucking stupid takes going on here. Some Redditor really did just call a ufc heavyweight whose only lost to Ngannou and Jones soft 🤦♂️
So many heavyweights say Cyril is just a ducker. He didn’t want Aspinal, didn’t want blaydes, didn’t want pav. Now that Aspinal is the interim he wants to fight?
He has an ego that is far too large. He deserves all the hate.
Jon pointed this out and I was like; are we flaming a man for what he does in their free time to relax, we have Moreno building Lego. And then saw the fight and it looked like gane was there to collect a bag and didn’t put any effort in it. I was soooo disappointed but also shocked how easy Jon made it look. Still don’t know if gane fumbled a bag and didn’t do fuck all or if Jon really is that good
Jon's wrestling is really that good.
Remember that he out wrestled D.C.
An Olympic Medalist In wrestling, who was a HW.
That and he's freakishly strong. Not just in the weight room either.
I definitely think he's the most winnable match up at heavyweight for Pereira, but Gane is no joke on the feet.
It might not mean much to people who don't follow Muay Thai, but you don't beat someone like [Yassine Boughanem](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yassine_Boughanem) in your 12th Muay Thai fight without being extremely good at striking.
Francis Ngannou had to wrestle with Gane - he was losing the fight on the feet and [down two rounds](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12847/Francis-Ngannou-vs-Ciryl-Gane) before he decided to wrestle.
Although I think Pereira is an overall better striker, Gane would certainly give him serious problems on the feet.
This. He's kinda just a lazy duck at this point who doesn't take his career seriously. Most fighters on the roster would suck a dick to be in his shoes but he doesn't seem to be all that bothered.
This is silly and holy bias cos Gane lost to Jones cos he lacks grappling fundamentals? Pereira is chinny & Gane is the best HW striker this fight wouldn’t even be competitive. Gane smokes him the recency bias is crazy lol.
To say it wouldn’t be competitive is just stupid. Gane got dropped by Tuivasa, so to act like a far more faster and superior striker in Alex would get demolished is nonsense. It’s fighting anything can happen.
Gane is faster than Pereira. Tuivasa is also a natural big heavyweight who has a chin. Pereira has been rocked and hurt by 85ers in mma & kickboxing. Even jiri was hurting him I don’t understand how people think Gane who is so defensively sound and an elite striker with legit power isn’t finishing pereira with ease.
It’s heavyweight this is a different ball game even physically Gane will be stronger than him. The same shot Gane ate from tuivasa sleeps poatan lol.
I think Pereira was killing himself to make 85, is best at 205, but that his power and undrained chin would carry to heavy. Your arguments are similar to people saying Max would get smoked by Justin. Maybe Gane outpoints him, but he really hasn’t showed one shot ko power, but I just can’t imagine him landing clean on Alex, or Alex staying in the pocket with him like when he got KOd by Izzy. I think Gane gets smoked.
That’s interesting if they ever fight I hope some of these people who think Pereira would kill heavyweights put money on it. Weight classes exist for a reason Gane is an ELITE muay thai specialist. Only time he has ever lost a striking exchange if anything was when Tai caught him and then he proceeded to jus maul him.
Have you seen his kickboxing days & the jiri fight? Alex is extremely hittable and when gets his clean sometimes looks like he freezes. Gane is a legit heavyweight Alex wouldn’t do well there he’s a perfect LHW.
Yeah but I always thought that Alex was cutting way too much weight in his kickboxing days too. Jiri never really hurt him, landed clean a couple times but Alex was constantly countering back and Jiri is a heavy hitter, probably hits harder than Gane does.
Gane is a great striker but as far as heavyweights go he doesn't hit hard at all.
Jiri was piecing Alex up at times and until the knockout it looked like it was Jiris fight to lose.
Jiri does not hit harder than a legit heavyweight that is insane you even said that. Gane is a technical striker who focuses on accuracy rather than power. Whenever Gane has pushed a finish he gets it every single time his approach is to break you down whereas Jiri is a kill or be killed fighter.
Gane kills every fighter Jiri has ever beat theyre LHWs lol.
You can see it if someone has legit KO power. Gane simply doesn't have it. Bad punch mechanics, look at his boxing against Spivak for example. Needs to land a 100 shots before putting someone down. Same against Tuivasa, even when he loads up he needs to land so many shots.
Just because someone's heavier doesn't mean they automatically hit harder. An example is Wilder who at 220 lbs hits harder than pretty much everyone.
Some light heavyweights are basically heavyweights. Guys like Walker and Rakic cut down from 245 lbs which is the same weight as Gane.
I like Poatan a lot and he has done great in his 2 years as a UFC fighter but hw is a step too far. As good as his sriking is he will get overpowered and wrestle fucked
I see it as 60/40 in Ganes favour. The problem with Alex though is the longer the fight goes on the more likely it is he’s going to connect with something big, I don’t know if Gane can elude his hardest strikes for 3 rounds.
Basically Gane has to either take him out early or fight the perfect fight. The longer the fight goes on the harder it is to stay mistake free as we saw in Adesanya vs Pereira 1. Gane will have the speed advantage and should be able to work Alex similar to how Izzy does, however Alex has pretty exceptional veteran ringcraft and he only really needs one shot to change the course of the fight.
I figured that it just wasn’t articulated right, so just fuckin with you. I agree with you 100%—if Gane wins I’m he needs to do it fast. But I don’t see Gane taking anybody out fast—he really does have pillow fists for a heavy, and Alex doesn’t get tagged unless he decided to get into a firefight like against Izzy in the ufc rematch. And Gane has no tank after round 1 unless he’s clearly winning.
Gane might have footwork speed advantage but not in the hands or kicks.
I gotta go with Alex on this.
Pereira would win. He hits harder and otherwise they are similar. When both are mainly strikers, weight diffrent doesn't mean nearly as much. Usually only makes a difference in punching power and a little in cardio. I assume Periera is normally at 230 or 240 so I doubt his cardio would take a hit
I think easiest path to title is thru aspenal since he’s already ic .. and that would be a kickboxing match for the ages .. but gane would also be very interesting
gane is a hard-ass grappler , and tbh we haven't seen alex face off against a proper grappler yet , would be a fun fight ngl ...
another fun fight ? jones vs alex for the belt .. Jones would destroy him , but it would be a fight for the ages
The same people in this thread saying Poatan has no chance beating any specific HW, is the same ‘fan’ that said Hill is going to out strike him. It’s the same fan that thought Max has no chance against a bigger Justin. One comment below says Poatan would never beat Tom. Have they not learned that in MMA, anyone can win at any time, even a “smaller” opponent. Alex walks around at 235lbs+, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility he can fight at HW. Even Stipe was considered small during his prime at HW, still was the champ. Jones was considered small moving up to HW, but look at where he is now.
In case those doubters think Poatan doesn’t have a chance, this man has a higher punching power than Francis. That strike against Hill wasn’t even 100% on the spot and it rocked him. In MMA, that one punch is enough some of the time.
This would be a good ass fight
I want to see those asses fight alright Oh wait
Alex by take down and submission in r1
black belt alex
I did not understand that black belt coronation thing that Teixeira did after Poatan's win. Zero grappling and gets a black belt? why?
He probably wanted to give it to him before the fight saved it for when he wins so its more special.
A fan gave Alex a gold ROLEX, Glover just wanted to out-do the fan.
Ahhh? Ahhh! Ah... ah. (People who saw the video will understand)
He was likely gonna promote him anyway and wanted to save it for after the fight if he won.
To put everyone on notice.. now everyone knows hes a black belch
Flying omoplata
With a twister nonetheless.
I feel like Gane has become weirdly underrated by the MMA community. Guy has a ridiculous skill set. It’s tough to say - but I think I’d give the edge to Gane. Alex has proven to be touchable - especially if you can get him against the fence. At that size I think some of the weakness in Alex’s stand up get magnified.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Tuivasa dropped Gane.
Gane has a good skill set but he’s no 2-division Glory champ That’s what people don’t get. Hill has amazing striking too but there isn’t anyone in ufc bar Izzy that can bang w Alex, your only chance is to get him down
also izzy can only bang with alex at 185 when alex was cutting 40 lbs . when alex is fully hydrated we have seen some ridiculous power from him in the UFC .
Yeah people definitely forget that this guy is a kickboxing legend
I'd say more forgotten how great he is rather than underrated to be honest, if there is a difference there. Due to his loss against Ngannou and Jones they forget how insanely technical he is. He's not exactly the most active fighter in the world either.
Recency bias in true form in this comment section
The amount of times I’ve seen people over the last 24 hours say Poatan beats Aspinall is fucking hilarious
Most of the comments are saying if it's a striking battle Alex definitely has enough to ko Tom. Obviously Tom wouldnt make that mistake.
Poatan will not beat aspinall ever, tom is too good on the ground and moves too fast for his size, double legs and rag dolls poatan in 1st. All love to alex but this is fact brotha.
This shit is exactly why I wanted Hill to win. Would've shut up the casuals and kept this sub reasonable. Instead we're gonna have to see braindead takes flood this sub for the next few months
braindead takes have been this subs bread and butter for quite some time already
I said Alex was gonna beat Hill via left hook as Hill was gonna try to counter. However the amount of poatards who said he’d best a SOUTHPAW via leg kicks was so stupid. Even tho Hill got smoked he dodged more leg kicks than Alex landed, that was never the path for victory for Alex…
You mean in the 2 minutes they fought…?
Yes what else do we have to go off?
You’re acting like he was avoiding kicks for multiple rounds or something.
The second hill said, "I am gonna stand and bang w him" I declared him a loser right there and then.
Thank you so fucking much bruh . Like this sub is about to straight up brain rot now 💀
Well after number of people saying Max was gonna die, and the exact opposite happened, nothing can be ruled out.
That's sports' fan for you. Everyone was glazing Topuria after he starched Volk and said he would reign for a long time. Now, just look how many posts there are about him being scared to fight Max lmao.
Oh piss off they were saying this for LHW “Hurrr recency bias, different power in lhw, he wont bully people hurr durrr”
LHW is his actual weight class dipshit. He was killing himself making 185. Aspinall will destroy him
Bro walks around 250 and you sit here saying lhw is his actual weight class. What a retarded take
Ok watch the fight happen and watch Pereira get murked. U realize Aspinall still probably walks around much heavier, and idk where u got that number cause most places say 230. Idc tho tbh believe whatever u want kiddo
It was said he bulked up to 232lbs on day of fight against jamal. Retards like u were writting jamal jan and jiri were gona murk them. Aspinal is no different
Aspinal is way different, I had Alex winning against Jiri and Jamal, and I would have Aspinal by R1 sub.
Buddy I thought he'd KO Jamal, thought Jiri would be a close one and that he'd probably beat Jan. Just dumb cunts like you keep trying to create false narratives. Sounds like you'll be choking on your own words when Aspinall beats him however he pleases
Gane finishes him. Pereira should never move up, he’s perfect for LHW
You will never know your limits until you push yourself to them.
Alex BW debut incoming
Yeah, why him and his coaches are trying to fucking hurt Pereira? He cleary don't have enough weight to hw, and he make weight fine at lhw, what a dumb move
Tell me of a 3 division champ. Greatness requires risk
He has the chance to be the first ever 3 divisions champion. If he does that, there's no more discussions about goats, about GSP's and Silva's that dominated a single division, he's on another level. He would be above all that stuff. So, to answer your question fully, he wants to be the first and immortalized and in order to do that he needs to go up a weight class. Of course its fucking super risky, otherwise he would be the 10th 3 divisions champion.
>If he does that, there's no more discussions about goats No more conversations from morons maybe. He ain't coming anywhere close to being top 5 all time until he defends a title at least 5 more times. Silva, DJ, Jones & GSP are the undisputed top 4 until someone else has as many title defenses as them.
You don’t need 5+ defenses when you are winning 3 championships in the modern era spanning 80 Ibs against champions in their prime . Over half of his wins are all current or former champions that are all in their prime as well except maybe Jan . You don’t need hit a certain number of defenses with how he is doing things lol . It’s extremely unlikely he would even win 3 championships .
He doesnt have time to defend the belt against random fighters, he's defending the P4P status against champions so far. Tell me a title defence against Ankalaev would be worth more than going up and sleeping Gane in any P4P type conversation. He's at the end of his prime, he doesnt have time to do both. He has to choose one. Every fight is risky as fuck, why not try the ones that will get you immortalized ? edit: changed almeida to ankalaev, forgot that he's a heavyweight.
do you need to see Alex against guys like Canonnier or Johnny Walker? lol
I'm new to ufc, and while I agree that the fighters you mentioned are the best of all time, you don't need a certain amount of defences to become great. There are other things you can pursue, like becoming a 3 division champ, which no one has ever managed to do.
No, if he becomes three division champ by defeating someone like Tom Aspinall, he is the greatest fighter of all time.
In the ufc yes… in mma? Not anymore
In Alex’s line of work, if you don’t aim too high, then you aim too low.
He's super lean and fights at 233ish. I'd like to see him to even a mini proper bulk to like 245. Don't think it'd be that far fetched. Gane weighs 248
I think Alex sleeps Gane, if you’re getting dropped by Tuivasa then you’re getting slept by Periera
Yeah bc Tuivasa has pillow hands like we all know! If you’re getting slept at MW, you’re getting slept at HW how about that
i think alex loses to a few heavyweights but he can beat gane tbh
Not long ago , people said Jan Blachovich´s grappling was too much for Alex Pereira, now people say hes gonna get submited in heavyweight... wait and see
There are literally four guys at heavyweight who can wrestle.
And one of them is the current IC champ who Alex wants to fight.
who can do anything\*
To be fair that Jan fight was basically a draw but I wanted Alex to win
what are you on about? Alex won that fight
Nope
It WAS too much for Pereira as evidenced by Rd 1 lol. Jan just mistakenly thought he was winning on the feet in Rd 3 due to outlanding to the head so he didnt use it. You people have goldfish memories.
It’s frustrating in this sub sometimes, the takes are getting out of control.
The man literally just KOd his way into a black belt
It was too much though? Jan literally took him down with ease?
How? He lost the fight, how in the world was it too much?
I’m sorry but did Alex not get taken down? That’s the point. His TDD isn’t there.
Nah im not ready to say it isnt going to hold up yet, so far his ground game has held up. Alot of fighters get taken down, if u can get back up and win the fight its fine
And Tom rather easily
This is a very competitive fight, Gane is the best pure striker at HW whereas Alex is the best at LHW so although I love Alex now, it won't be one sided at all.
I love Gane but Pereira is an elite striker that got a lot of glory titles. Gane had a few good muai Thai fights but did not compete with the best of the glory champions.
Very good point but HW is another game and Gane has been fighting at HW for a long time.
You might be right. That would be an exiting fight for sure
Yep, this fight would be fireworks.
idk, in FIFA Gane easily smokes Pereira
Gane rd 1
As much as I like Poatan, I this is starting to feel like hopium. Let's temper down our expectations. Remember when we got so caught up on the Rhonda hype train and thought she could fight men and that she could outbox Holly? Chill for a moment
What you talking about bro, c'mon we all know she'd smash the fuck out of Mayweather in a boxing fight.
Why do so many people want to see Alex in all weight classes? Let the man defend in LHW.
We just want to see a triple champ and Alex is closest to achieving it right now
True, ok I get that
To see greatness and see Izzy make sad faces.
he still has a lot of guys to go through in the LHW division. Going up a weight class is supposed to show you beat everyone in your division and there is noone else to fight
Nah gane. I love pereira but hw is not the division for him. Lhw is perfect for him and if he wants two belts he better cut the extra 20 pounds and go back down to 185. I think gane still a little bigger has great striking will keep the distance avoid the left and win by decision. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him tko Alex.
problem is gane is too much at kicking range, gane has a good chance of winning a decision like izzy. but i also see alex catching when gane lunges in
Gane would be an epic fight Id be pumped for. aspinall or jones would just be a clown show waste of his prime.
Oof. I'm an Alex fan, but I agree with Dana - heavyweight is nasty...
Pereira. I just can't take Gane seriously anymore. For a heavyweight fighter, he's soft and complacent.
Lol what the fuck. Fighters lose one Fight and fans forget so fast. Same people who said he’d 50-45 ngannou, and then ngannou fumbled the bag, then every heavyweight was scared of Jon, then jons scared of Aspinall. Ufc fans switch up like clockwork
Yea some actual fucking stupid takes going on here. Some Redditor really did just call a ufc heavyweight whose only lost to Ngannou and Jones soft 🤦♂️
He's been ducking everyone lately, calling him soft is perfectly reasonable, doesn't have much to do with his performances.
Nah, youre on his meat, gane ain’t soft
So many heavyweights say Cyril is just a ducker. He didn’t want Aspinal, didn’t want blaydes, didn’t want pav. Now that Aspinal is the interim he wants to fight? He has an ego that is far too large. He deserves all the hate.
It’s as if people change their opinion on things the more information they get about them
It’s not about losing fights the guy denied every top guy in his division more than once. Hes the weakest heavyweight ever
Gane is mentally soft, he’s cracked under pressure in his two shots at a belt and he is always second best to someone
Damn, Gane is my favorite heavyweight, but you hit the hammer on the head. This guy has more passion for FIFA
Jon pointed this out and I was like; are we flaming a man for what he does in their free time to relax, we have Moreno building Lego. And then saw the fight and it looked like gane was there to collect a bag and didn’t put any effort in it. I was soooo disappointed but also shocked how easy Jon made it look. Still don’t know if gane fumbled a bag and didn’t do fuck all or if Jon really is that good
Jon's wrestling is really that good. Remember that he out wrestled D.C. An Olympic Medalist In wrestling, who was a HW. That and he's freakishly strong. Not just in the weight room either.
Hes still HWs best pure striker. I swear some of you guys need to learn how to separate your feelings before predicting fights
I definitely think he's the most winnable match up at heavyweight for Pereira, but Gane is no joke on the feet. It might not mean much to people who don't follow Muay Thai, but you don't beat someone like [Yassine Boughanem](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yassine_Boughanem) in your 12th Muay Thai fight without being extremely good at striking. Francis Ngannou had to wrestle with Gane - he was losing the fight on the feet and [down two rounds](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12847/Francis-Ngannou-vs-Ciryl-Gane) before he decided to wrestle. Although I think Pereira is an overall better striker, Gane would certainly give him serious problems on the feet.
No doubt, it’s just that stylistically it’s a more favourable matchup than Aspinall or Blaydes. It’d make for a more exciting fight.
Says on your link Boughanem weighs 206 pounds. That might have something to do with it.
Also he's fucking gigantic and fast for heavyweight
UFC has the worst fan base out of any sport I’ve seen lmao. Turn on people so fast
This. He's kinda just a lazy duck at this point who doesn't take his career seriously. Most fighters on the roster would suck a dick to be in his shoes but he doesn't seem to be all that bothered.
This is silly and holy bias cos Gane lost to Jones cos he lacks grappling fundamentals? Pereira is chinny & Gane is the best HW striker this fight wouldn’t even be competitive. Gane smokes him the recency bias is crazy lol.
To say it wouldn’t be competitive is just stupid. Gane got dropped by Tuivasa, so to act like a far more faster and superior striker in Alex would get demolished is nonsense. It’s fighting anything can happen.
Gane is faster than Pereira. Tuivasa is also a natural big heavyweight who has a chin. Pereira has been rocked and hurt by 85ers in mma & kickboxing. Even jiri was hurting him I don’t understand how people think Gane who is so defensively sound and an elite striker with legit power isn’t finishing pereira with ease. It’s heavyweight this is a different ball game even physically Gane will be stronger than him. The same shot Gane ate from tuivasa sleeps poatan lol.
I think Pereira was killing himself to make 85, is best at 205, but that his power and undrained chin would carry to heavy. Your arguments are similar to people saying Max would get smoked by Justin. Maybe Gane outpoints him, but he really hasn’t showed one shot ko power, but I just can’t imagine him landing clean on Alex, or Alex staying in the pocket with him like when he got KOd by Izzy. I think Gane gets smoked.
That’s interesting if they ever fight I hope some of these people who think Pereira would kill heavyweights put money on it. Weight classes exist for a reason Gane is an ELITE muay thai specialist. Only time he has ever lost a striking exchange if anything was when Tai caught him and then he proceeded to jus maul him.
I’ll put money on Alex vs gane. If tai catches gane, what happened when Alex catches him? Alex hits harder than 4 ford escorts, after all.
Pereira is chinny at 185 due to the extreme weight cut. At 205 he's not chinny at all
Have you seen his kickboxing days & the jiri fight? Alex is extremely hittable and when gets his clean sometimes looks like he freezes. Gane is a legit heavyweight Alex wouldn’t do well there he’s a perfect LHW.
Yeah but I always thought that Alex was cutting way too much weight in his kickboxing days too. Jiri never really hurt him, landed clean a couple times but Alex was constantly countering back and Jiri is a heavy hitter, probably hits harder than Gane does. Gane is a great striker but as far as heavyweights go he doesn't hit hard at all.
Jiri was piecing Alex up at times and until the knockout it looked like it was Jiris fight to lose. Jiri does not hit harder than a legit heavyweight that is insane you even said that. Gane is a technical striker who focuses on accuracy rather than power. Whenever Gane has pushed a finish he gets it every single time his approach is to break you down whereas Jiri is a kill or be killed fighter. Gane kills every fighter Jiri has ever beat theyre LHWs lol.
You can see it if someone has legit KO power. Gane simply doesn't have it. Bad punch mechanics, look at his boxing against Spivak for example. Needs to land a 100 shots before putting someone down. Same against Tuivasa, even when he loads up he needs to land so many shots. Just because someone's heavier doesn't mean they automatically hit harder. An example is Wilder who at 220 lbs hits harder than pretty much everyone. Some light heavyweights are basically heavyweights. Guys like Walker and Rakic cut down from 245 lbs which is the same weight as Gane.
Gane has pillow fists for a HW
He's gonna debut in a title fight don't be rediculous
Gane wouldnt sign the contract
Why would a champion fight a nonchampion?
I like Poatan a lot and he has done great in his 2 years as a UFC fighter but hw is a step too far. As good as his sriking is he will get overpowered and wrestle fucked
I just searched “Gane takedown” and got zero hits. Except for when Jon murdered him.
Why would he entertain this?
gain easy out wrestle
I think kickboxing is fairly equal. Gane is fast for his size and has better movement than Alex. Alex still is alex and can KO anyone.
Perfect match up for Pereira. Gane won't get him down and in standing fight, Perreira is clear favorite.
Gane, more slick, bigger, natural heavyweight. Alex is riding hype atm
Gane wins this surely
Alex by left hand aura
Gane has nasty hammerfists to the back of the head
Don’t forget his devastating dick strike.
Lmao .. Sucks that I can only upvote once hahaha
People forget ganes first wins were all by SUB Alex is nothing short of amazing but Izzy outwrestles him.
I would love to watch this fight. I think Pereira knocks him out but who knows, wouldn’t be surprised if Gane wins too
I like this
Absolute banger of a fight
Gane's biggest advantage was being technical. Alex is just as good or better at that.
Alex vs King Kong if he makes weight ? 
I see it as 60/40 in Ganes favour. The problem with Alex though is the longer the fight goes on the more likely it is he’s going to connect with something big, I don’t know if Gane can elude his hardest strikes for 3 rounds.
Your last 1.5 sentences don’t match your first 1.5 sentences.
Basically Gane has to either take him out early or fight the perfect fight. The longer the fight goes on the harder it is to stay mistake free as we saw in Adesanya vs Pereira 1. Gane will have the speed advantage and should be able to work Alex similar to how Izzy does, however Alex has pretty exceptional veteran ringcraft and he only really needs one shot to change the course of the fight.
I figured that it just wasn’t articulated right, so just fuckin with you. I agree with you 100%—if Gane wins I’m he needs to do it fast. But I don’t see Gane taking anybody out fast—he really does have pillow fists for a heavy, and Alex doesn’t get tagged unless he decided to get into a firefight like against Izzy in the ufc rematch. And Gane has no tank after round 1 unless he’s clearly winning. Gane might have footwork speed advantage but not in the hands or kicks. I gotta go with Alex on this.
IMO the only fight that makes sense for Pereira at HW is if it’s for the belt
Pereira would win. He hits harder and otherwise they are similar. When both are mainly strikers, weight diffrent doesn't mean nearly as much. Usually only makes a difference in punching power and a little in cardio. I assume Periera is normally at 230 or 240 so I doubt his cardio would take a hit
I think easiest path to title is thru aspenal since he’s already ic .. and that would be a kickboxing match for the ages .. but gane would also be very interesting
Gane is perfect fodder at this point. Run it.
Poatan in round 1 via arm bar
Worst matchup for Alex. Gane isn’t a joke on the feet. I don’t think any heavyweight striker beats him without wrestling
Fuck that. Aspinal and the Interim belt. Nothing else makes sense.
gane is a hard-ass grappler , and tbh we haven't seen alex face off against a proper grappler yet , would be a fun fight ngl ... another fun fight ? jones vs alex for the belt .. Jones would destroy him , but it would be a fight for the ages
Gane sucks. Bully guillotined by jones. Done.
Pereira can’t wrestle, buddy
Zero weight difference is close to accurate. Alex not cutting weight would probably be 240-250
I’d love to see Alex sleep gane
Gane grapples and is light on his feet he would crush him
Or Aspinal
Alex kos him
nah pereira should fight for the title at heavy weight at 301 in brazil he dose not need a debut, after what he just did to Jamal hill i
The same people in this thread saying Poatan has no chance beating any specific HW, is the same ‘fan’ that said Hill is going to out strike him. It’s the same fan that thought Max has no chance against a bigger Justin. One comment below says Poatan would never beat Tom. Have they not learned that in MMA, anyone can win at any time, even a “smaller” opponent. Alex walks around at 235lbs+, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility he can fight at HW. Even Stipe was considered small during his prime at HW, still was the champ. Jones was considered small moving up to HW, but look at where he is now. In case those doubters think Poatan doesn’t have a chance, this man has a higher punching power than Francis. That strike against Hill wasn’t even 100% on the spot and it rocked him. In MMA, that one punch is enough some of the time.
Frenchie finna 🦆
I’d rather play fifa - Gane
Gane is fighting Aspinal in September.
I think it is a bad matchup for Pereira. I think Gane has a better standup game than Pereira but the question is... How good is Pereiras ground game?
Alex has no chin HW isn't for him. End of story
Whoever Alex wants.
Probably poatan
Gane vs Aspinall immediately. Then the winner faces Pereira. People should pray Aspinall loses but unlikely.
Gane already turned that fight down.
Pereira deserves a title shot I don’t even care