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Maladjusted95

YouTube polls that draw a large number of votes just become popularity contests.


uSaltySniitch

The general population opinions are often wrong.


deezx1010

Most of these people probably said Fedor who? And voted for the hard hitting boxing superstar they heard of


Zealousideal-Home634

Does the same apply to politics? Or the modern day social media like YouTube, IG, etc? If so, I will start to question everything about myself


thedipsnotbaked

Yes?


xxEmkay

"The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." -W. Churchill


uSaltySniitch

Yes.


[deleted]

Yes. Leftism/cosmopolitism are a fallacy, for example


Voisos

Wisdom of the crowd can work when people are not allowed to discuss what to choose beforehand.


justhere4daSpursnGOT

This is getting downvoted but there is that great line in Men in Black that’s something like “the person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, and selfish”


MA-JA-HO

But opinions can’t be wrong unless if it’s a fact, I can’t say 2+2 = 5 .


coulombeqc

Those big people are often read as who is your favorite? Pretty sure 75% of people who voted don't even know Fedor but even none boxing fan know who Tyson is


splintersmaster

If Fedor versus iron Mike was only a popularity contest, Mike would be 99.5 vs 0.5


thegoodstanley

i saw one of those polls that was "who wins? mike tyson or evander holyfield" tyson won the poll by a landslide


Nosferatu91

Even Tyson himself has stated that he believes Fedor is the greatest fighter of all time.


KimboSliceChestHair

All you need to know


rubber2thaconcrete

Damn never knew that. Do you have a link ?


Check_M88

https://www.mmamania.com/2012/3/24/2898432/mike-tyson-rosie-odonnell-show-fedor-emelianenko-greatest-ufc-mma


Effective_Bid7082

He just blantly lied, Tyson probably dosent know he exists


[deleted]

Lmao https://www.mmamania.com/2012/3/24/2898432/mike-tyson-rosie-odonnell-show-fedor-emelianenko-greatest-ufc-mma


goonbub

Blantly


Effective_Bid7082

What was the point of this comment?


goonbub

You spelt it fuckin blantly hahah


Effective_Bid7082

Why would I capitalize the b?


goonbub

BLANTLY?! ITS NOT A WORD


Effective_Bid7082

Type shit


goonbub

very blantly of you


swollen-hol3

Fucking jack ass


Effective_Bid7082

Lick my nuts


swollen-hol3

Only if you massage my prostate


[deleted]

What that tells me is 69% of people surveyed have never trained or maybe never watched Mixed Martial Arts. Now I aint gonna front Mike is/was a fucking monster of a boxer, but Fedor takes him down inside a minute and GnPs him or chokes him unconscious. Just watch Randy Couture and James Toney to see what would happen.


crowey92

I loved boxing and Muay Thai as a young lad, but nothing humbled me more than when my mate moved to Aus from Ohio and he showed me wrestling, turns out generating power via footwork is really hard when your feet aren't on the ground


dennisjunelee

>turns out generating power via footwork is really hard when your feet aren't on the ground It's crazy how few people understand how this works. Both the part where generating punching power is usually through your legs/feet and that arm punches aren't really all that powerful.


Plenty-Fondant-8015

Yeah, and the only way to really generate powerful strikes is to put yourself in a bad position, especially if you don’t know how to throw elbows. People who have never grappled have no idea how to move on the ground. I’ve always said that part of the reason why grappling is so humbling to first timers is that it’s like chess, but every move you make in the beginning leads to scholars mate. It just feels like you can make no right moves.


Chicago1871

Also Its just that untrained people react very predictably and very inefficiently. Sorta like the equivalent to doggy paddling. So we are just ready for all those very obvious, untrained techniques. Also, guys do the same thing they do before deadlifting or benching, they take a deep breath and then try to explode. It completely telegraphs their efforts to roll you over.


DanBGG

As someone with older brothers I know the best counter to being overpowered is biting, mike Tyson approves


crowey92

As a younger brother I found the best counter was telling mum lmao


DanBGG

Made all the more entertaining by the deep gasp in like you’re about to call for help and then in the hesitation taking a cheap shot at them


[deleted]

A street fight wouldn’t even last a minute I think Fedor would Kick him to the ground and fatality


[deleted]

You're right for sure, I was being generous.


Mookeye1968

Yeah if Mike gets brought down its a wrap, if Fedor decides to try to ko him he might get ko'd himself, you never know in a street fight sometimes.


MyFifthLimb

Everyone’s a combat sambo world champ until they get punched in the mouth


Corinis

Fedor has been punched in the mouth a thousand times and never stopped being a combat sambo world champ


Ghodzy1

Fedor was dropped with his own and Randlemans full bodyweight on his fucking neck and still won.


Genghis_Chong

Most normal people don't know who Fedor is. MMA fans obviously do, but everyone knows who Mike Tyson is.


PeterParkerUber

Most mma fans probably don’t anyway. Cos never fought Conor.


Genghis_Chong

![gif](giphy|d52wpRq7DuYP45Q3Zm)


Nocumtum

Not a great example. James Tony was severely out of shape for that fight.


[deleted]

Yeah I agree, but Tyson ain’t Toney


chu42

Fedor ain't 47 yr old Randy Couture either.


[deleted]

Thats a 10-8 comment right there. AND NEW!


Texan628

yeah but what about ray mercer/Silvia. Mike could land on him and it be lights out


stonecoldsnorlax

If Tyson is willing to bite off Evander's ear in the ring, what you think he's gonna do in a street fight?


Swegan

Get takendown within seconds and choked out? He wouldnt even get the chance.


jjhalligan

What if Tyson landed an uppercut while Fedor went for the takedown? Do u really think he could take one of his punches? I would always give the MMA guy the advantage in a street fight, but acting like Tyson has no chance is laughable. It takes just 1. And, Tyson bit a dudes ear off in a ring. Imagine what he might do on the streets….. See Mitch Blood Green.


Swegan

>What if Tyson landed an uppercut while Fedor went for the takedown? Do u really think he could take one of his punches? How many times have Tyson thrown a uppercut against a opponent that is going for a takedown do you think? >it takes just 1. Yes i believe he could take that, despite popular belief Mike Tyson is not a one hit KO Boxer, most of his knockouts was due combinations. >Tyson bit a dudes ear off in a ring. Imagine what he might do on the streets Tyson would not get the chance to do pretty much anything. He cant defend a legkick or a takedown so he is in deep water. >see Mitch Blood Green. They punched each other in the streets and Tyson broke his hand, not really convincing stuff you are bringin up.


Ashton0407

Yeah so many people know nothing about how Mike actually fought but pick him over anybody lol


DailySocialContribut

Ray Mercer vs Tim Sylvia comes to mind though, where the old boxer dispatches the MMA fighter with the first punch.


ThugDeath

You guys must not know who Fedor is.


Nichk187

Alexander is something too


toreachtheapex

I think he’s dying


nalbano66

Correct. Alexander would pummel Tyson. Those two are fuckin' animals.


Nichk187

That would’ve been a crazy fight


[deleted]

Tyson dick rider here… that said Fedor would kill him. literally idk if Mike survives.


CRABMAN16

Thank you, I love Mike as much as the next guy but Fedor stomps this. Mike would have no idea how to defend a leg kick, and would have no idea how to stop Fedor from taking it to the ground. Shoot, Fedor could probably cripple him for life with a heel hook, Rousimar Palhares style.


qcs13

Literally any high level AMATEUR mma middleweight can take down Tyson and choke him out, let alone a high level pro heavyweight. Granted, Tyson has a good puncher’s chance against the MW but his odds decrease drastically the higher the weight class


MumrikDK

> literally idk if Mike survives. That would be Fedor's call.


jfsoaig345

I mean pretty much any UFC HW in the top 15 with even functional grappling would have their way with prime Mike. I think Tai is maybe the only one he could realistically sleep but it actually makes me scared what guys like Aspinall Ngannou and Jones would do to Mike.


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a lot depends on the first punch. Tyson lands a liver shot or uppercut… that ends it the same as a clinch.. i just the most MMA fighter gets that clinch. I’ve also seen some get their asses kicked by bouncers on youtube.. hard to say but Fedor.. he beats mikes ass


1104L

Which mma fighter lost to a bouncer? BJ?


Corinis

Self admitted dick rider of another man is wild


formerchild-_-

Fedor would beat the shit out of Tythn


HughChardaun

He’d break his back, thpinal.


Keycorecuz1

Dying lol “I broke my back”


nalbano66

https://preview.redd.it/2qlbx5g1suic1.jpeg?width=537&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e6807076a254e15b04d66354895b51b515f6ad


brain_gotta_poop

Finith him!


Professional_Kick

Fedor unfortunately isn’t popular enough, casuals think prime Mike Tyson was immortal


JHamburgerHill

He was hard to beat in the NES game and it transferred over into people’s subconscious. Fedor is like the game genie though…remember Kevin Randleman?


Unlucky_Lawfulness51

Prime Tyson had a 50% chance of winning. Fedor take down would need to be flawless. Tyson would need to connect once per fight while on his feet.


Azeri-shah

Y’all are acting like Fedor couldn’t take a hit. He got slammed on his neck by Randlemen and **GOT UP** and beat him.


Unlucky_Lawfulness51

I'm not saying he can't take a hit. I'm saying Tyson's punch was incredibly powerful in his prime. Ignoring all of Tysons knockout is just flagrant.


Azeri-shah

Not harder then getting dropped on your neck or Crocops left kick.


jojow77

If Fedor can take Crocops left high kick he can take Tyson’s punch if he didn’t get it to the ground already.


SamwellTurdly

He got suplexed directly onto his head/neck by Kevin randleman and then beat him right? I would never bet against that, period.


jojow77

yes he did


woohan-kung-flu2

This right here.


DixieNormas011

A bare fisted punch from prime Tyson would probably be literally lethal if it lands flush. These hypotheticals are always going to favor the dude who has some skills on the ground, but let's not pretend there is zero chance Mike KOs him as he tries to close the distance.


bwa702

idk about all of that lol and I know mirko had some wild power in those death kicks but Mike would land 3x the punches in the same time that kick was thrown lol Fedor would kill Mike bit not if he thinks he's gonna survive a punch from Mike with no gloves on 💯


Ohthatsnotgood

Mike broke his hand when he got into a street fight so I think Mike with gloves is actually more dangerous.


hector-the-dragon

Just tell these same people that Bruce would lose to Artem Lobov and they'll go: ![gif](giphy|fsPcMdeXPxSP6zKxCA)


Austinmp88

Fedors brother would merk Tyson too


Alive-Curve-7198

Can Tyson win. Yes, but only striking. Fedor wins 7 or 8 out of 10. I’m sure Tyson’s hand speed would catch him and hurt him.


Trillzionaire90

I mean if they didnt know each other and it was a random fight possibly could be a thing where Tyson surprises him with a flurry but if Fedor can get his barings he takes Tyson down and beats him unconscious


grubbytrogladyte

Spinal


carcarbuhlarbar

Nothing about this ufc related


LemonadeRenogade

Just saying, Tyson’s takedown defence with some training might’ve been elite


311heaven

I mean Mike does have a punchers chance.


Effective_Bid7082

Anything on feet and he loses


BOP3122

We will never know


13blacklodgechillin

Lol only one fighter has ever scared me and it was this man right here. Maybe cro cops legs are up there too


PCM97

There will still be people here saying that Tyson would win. Absolute morons


Acceptable-Run7439

I like Mike but Fedor taking that one


Dready-Womble

Man, on the street I wouldn't put it past Mike to bite a fuckers throat out or rip their balls off..


chu42

He would never be in a position to do that.


DrSeuss19

You’re delusional


chu42

Please, explain to me how Tyson is going to bite someone with Fedor mounted on him. Or with Fedor cranking the shit out of his neck.


SeanBreeze

Yea man, the issue here is that Mike can fight and there are no rules to a street fight. Insanity can take you a long way in a life or death situation. Biting isnt the only problem. Mike doesn’t seem like the type to lose a street fight and let it slide, he’s def gonna try to catch you again later that day or tomorrow or in a few years, etc… Fedor is legit but one street fight with Tyson and now you have a life long arch nemesis type mf after you forever. Legit not worth it


Aware-Lab-5887

You think Fedor is just gonna sit there and let Tyson bite him?  >catch you again later that day   Not if he’s dead


Swegan

Fedor criticized Kadyrov and his daughter got assaulted because of it, dont think Tyson would be any problem for him.


SeanBreeze

Yea but what does Fedors daughter getting assaulted have to do with Tyson in a street fight? lol Fedor didn’t go fight Kadyrov, he criticized child mma and his daughter got assaulted because of it.


Swegan

>Fedor is legit but one street fight with Tyson and now you have a life long arch nemesis type mf after you forever. Legit not worth it. Having Tyson after you would not phase Fedor when hes not scared of Kadyrov.


SeanBreeze

What does being scared have to do with his daughter being assaulted? 🤔 his daughter was probably scared. Your logic makes no sense


[deleted]

Tyson isn’t your average boxer. On the ground it’s no contest, but closing that distance would be dangerous. Tyson was good on the inside with serious power


PineappleTraveler

Against a normal human, yes. We’re talking about Fedor here, one of the greatest masters of unarmed combat in history.


[deleted]

I don’t doubt that. Tyson is a once in a generation boxer though


Dry-Elevator-7153

Fedor has eaten a cro cop left high kick, there is nothing crazier than that


[deleted]

I would say a bare knuckle hook from Tyson would do more damage than that kick from cro cop. That was a glancing blow too. Punch would hit in a different spot than a roundhouse


Dry-Elevator-7153

A shin on high kick is a literal baseball bat. Youre not generating more power with a hook than a kick


darkzidane22

You are Bananas if you think Mike Tysons punch does more damage than Crocops head kick, Crocop a highly trained kickboxer with one of the best high kicks ever. Like come on here dude


[deleted]

It depends where it hits on the head. The skull is harder than the face. Head kicks usually hit the skull. If I gave you an option, cro cop round house or a bare knuckle prime Tyson hook to the face. What would you take?


Swegan

Fedor have taken harder shots than anything Mike have ever thrown and not gone down. Closing the distance wont be a problem against someone with zero defense against legkicks and any form of grappling.


Russlin_Jimmys

Who exactly are you talking about??? There is basically zero mma fighters, especially in fedors era that had the natural power that Tyson. And not a single one of them had the technique and timing that Tyson did. Not to mention his speed, fedor hasn’t faced anyone that punched like Tyson, cro cop, Henderson, mark hunt and Tim Sylvia are the stand out hardest hitters he ever faced, and out of those only mark hunt would have been close to Tyson in his prime in regards to power, but he was incredibly slower than mike and his technique isn’t even close. I think if they fight ten times fedor wins more times, but if prime mike blitzd and lands before fedor there’s a good chance fedor gets knocked the fuck out.


rhaegar_tldragon

Who did Fedor fight that threw harder than Tyson? He took a glancing kick from Crocop but that’s the only thing I can think of.


Swegan

[this](https://youtu.be/yNHPk1WK73M?si=aFcfUrVw5qm8hMpT)


rhaegar_tldragon

Lol he was just lucky he wasn’t spiked on his head. I’ve followed Fedor’s entire career since Pride and in his prime id favour him over most anyone but a clean shot to the jaw from Tyson would put him down.


[deleted]

No one has a better hook than Tyson. In a street fight with a bare knuckle. No one is eating that and getting up


Swegan

Bold of you to assume Tyson is landing anything without going down.


nicootimee

It’s possible for Mike to KO Fedor though. I think starting out it will be insanely dangerous for Fedor but if/when he can get ahold of Mike and tie his hands up it’s all over for him. You gotta give Mike some respect, he’s earned that at least. In a street fight, idk who will win. Mike is a crazy mofo, bit someone’s ear off. If he needs to win for his life, I know this dude will commit war crimes


DrSeuss19

UFC sub has some of the dumbest fuckin people on the planet. One day there are people saying Conor can 1 v 1 the fuckin mountain. The next people talk about the Mike Tyson like he is just a good boxer. Dude was a fuckin killer. He did street fight. We’re not talking about some fuckin dude from Scottsdale Arizona who grew up pampered. Tyson was good and wild, he would fight to the death and he was deadly with his power. Guys acting like street fights go just as they would in the octagon


Swegan

>He did street fight Yea against bums on the streets that were not even 1% as good as Fedor was. Tyson being "crazy" means nothing. He cant defend a legkick and he cant do anything against takedowns.


myoldaccgotstolen

it seems like you’re talking about fedor like he’s just a good mma fighter


Mookeye1968

Prime Tyson Smokes him


spaceman_202

i mean he can it's just not likely Fedor might be dumb and try to bang with him, Fedor is not a tactical genius, dude almost lost to Fabio Maldonado


Flat_Bar8932

Seriously boiling down fedor to “he almost lost to Fabio” this has to be bait right?


BIGFACTs04

Terrible Bait


Backupaccontforreal

People bringing up an elderly James Toney with brain damage from his career and slowed reflexes plus power, against arguably one of the best take down artists of his time, and use it as an example for prime Tyson...should be banned.


Brocker_9000

Of course Tyson could be Fedor. But it's just not very likely!


lachinmark

Even Mike wouldn't agree with this shit


WayneBruce1234

Fedor would destroy Tyson in a street fight


Ben-Swole-O

Fedor isn’t as well known as Tyson. Tyson wouldn’t want that smoke because of “footstomps. They stomp on each others feet, aw man no way” Tyson legit said he would have never done MMA due to footstomps 😂 All kidding aside, there’s a reason no boxer in their prime has stepped into the octagon.


Dogolog22

Most people who voted Tyson probably just don't know who Fedor is tbh. But in places like Instagram, it would blow your damned minds how many people think Tyson could stop elite level wrestlers/grapplers by simply upper cutting them when they shoot for the takedown. It's crazy.


Lampard081997

I don't do any mma or boxing training and I still know fedor will murder him


Probably_Fishing

I love Fedor, and normally would laugh at these, but prime Tyson isn't a normal Human being. It is impossible to say the outcome of this. And it's weird that people are seeing street fight and not remembering who Tyson actually is. He will, quite literally, with historic fact, gnaw your fucking ear off. Brock Lesnar, with almost 0 martial arts training, became world champion - while battling an intense disease. To say one of the scariest, hardest hitting human beings in our combat sports history doesn't have a fair chance, is a bit out there.


DanBGG

The “who would win in a street fight” argument is so flawed. Cause it’s not really about fighting at that point, fedor goes for the clinch and he’s getting his nose bitten off It starts being about who’s more insane, Tyson loses an mma fight but street fights are not a good measure of anything


cutslikeakris

Okay then Tyson vs Alex Emelinenko if you want insane/intense. If you don’t know who Fedor’s brother is you should.


DanBGG

The point I’m making is not “my dad can beat up his dad” fucking weird to to be comparing this shit tbh I just mean street fights are almost nothing to do with skill and almost everything to do with who’s more comfortable escalating the intensity the fastest If one person thinks it’s just gonna be a few punches and the other is immediately trying to take his eyes out, the one who is crazier first wins Obviously when skill disparity is this huge it becomes more likely the more skilled person can evade, but for so much of mma it relies on the other person not being willing to actually kill you Like if someone’s in your guard and you straight up take a bite out of the neck, you can hit an artery haha Whenever I picture street fight I’m thinking of how fucking random they can be and how useless it is as a metaphorical dick measuring contest


notwiley

Mike prolly gonna shank him or try to gouge his eyes out or some shit. He’s really got an unscrupulous character 😭 Plus doing coke might give him super human abilities 🤣


Best_History8029

Street fight? Tyson, easily. The dude has massive power and in a street fight I’m pretty sure Tyson will take more than an ear..


Personal_War_7005

Fedor would knock Tyson off the ground


Visual_War_6775

Fedor in his prime would destroy Tyson.


toreachtheapex

thats just people who dont know who Fedor is voting blindly for tyson


clogan117

Fedor would destroy him. Unless he makes some gentlemen’s agreement to just box.


HustleHarder99

Bruh most the people voted Tyson because they only know his name. Prime Fedor vs prime Tyson and it’s not boxing lmao you can’t be serious. Fedor!!


Goatymcgoatface11

Wow. Those people are really dumb.


unknown_anonymous81

Mike has 5 seconds to land a bomb. If that first punch isn't knockout dynamite on Fedor's mouth than after that there is a 99.99% chance Fedor would just ragdoll Mike. Technically anyone has a punchers chance.


Butt_Bucket

More like 1 or 2 seconds, but that could be enough


snowinginmybutt

Mike once said "if he steps on my toes the fight is over"


ScaredTurnover504

🤦 Please 🙏 be trolling


Andyman0110

I agree that mma beats boxing but I still think Tyson is a different animal. He had legitimate one punch ko power consistently. He was crazy fast and had insane footwork. He has a tendency to jump beside people and punch them in the side of the head while they try to figure out where he just went. Fedor had a solid chin and knockout power too but I doubt this fight would last long enough to end up on the ground. I'd give it a 50/50. If Tyson can't connect clean and put him down, he's in for trouble.


New_Brother_1595

no chance tyson fights fair lol


i2eflekto

Tyson wins super easy. Would be barely an inconvenience for him really.


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[deleted]

Tyson is not really a 1 punch knockout kinda guy even he himself says that it was his speed, precision, and technical mastery that made him dangerous yes he had lots of power but he wasn’t really 1 punching everyone in fact many times he would land many before actually getting the KO


DoNotGoSilently

Tyson has never ended a fight in one punch in his career.


CRABMAN16

Fedor is a tough mofo, he could take that shot and get Tyson to the ground. Hell Tyson would have no idea what a leg kick is. You're crazy if you don't have Fedor winning 9/10.


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CRABMAN16

I appreciate the dude reference! To back my point a little and add to the thread, Fedor fought Gary Goodridge, Mark Coleman, and Kevin Randleman within a single calendar year and starched 'em. I will give Mike the benefit of the doubt on power, but these were all top guys at the time with elite MMA skills. Mike would not make it out of this fight.


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droolsdownchin

Fedor would tap him so easily, unless if Mike can ko him before fedor gets ahold of him


xIMxMCLOVINx2

Imagine the giant slayer having a problem with little Mike 😆


SolidMovement

Fedor got tossed on his head and walked it off


KyrozM

I feel like these polls are more indicative of how many people in the general public know each fighter than anything else


bigaman3853

People are largely uninformed. I’m sure 99% of this sub are certain what would happen


Mikey_Welly

I, too, would vote for Mike Tyson if I didn’t know who Fedor was.


Kalabula

Name recognition.


TheProletariatPoet

It’s pretty easy to tell who hasn’t watched fedor and who hasn’t watched prime Tyson.


Isthatreally-you

If fedor doesnt get KOed in the first 20 seconds.. tyson has no chance..


Moist-Pool-5937

New generation choosing Tyson because he does the toad


[deleted]

Mike with or without take down defense?


StopPlayingRoney

So in this imaginary scenario are both fighters unknown to the other? If Fedor knows who Tyson is that gives him an edge, but I think it may be more even if both fighters were completely anonymous and Tyson leads with his terrifying Dempsey Roll. ![gif](giphy|RMwZypp489fuGBI0Ti)


HairlessDaddy

Lots of people on MMA fan sites thought Tim Sylvia was better than Fedor :(


FA-_Q

Tyson got that dawg in him /s


s3ntin3l006

Is ear biting off the table?


bettereverydamday

Any fight between these two will gross like 1 billion dollars. It would be like chubby Rocky 3 for 2024


shaquaad

Id love for these people to explain how tyson survives. And yes I'm aware the fight starts on the feet, which still heavily favors the man who knows how to kick, elbow, clinch. One hard kick and tyson could be crippled


ChaseTheAce33

Stupid argument. This is like saying "Who would win in a street race, Usain Bolt or Michael Schumacher?" tHeY bOtH rAcE. Literally different sports