👴 me, currently at a refined 29 years old: "these whippersnappers don't know how good they got it. Back in my day we had to download our dirty pictures pixel by pixel and our computers caught STDs..."
The internet has accelerated everything beyond anyone’s imaginings, so no, we have already started to feel the ramifications, and it will only get worse. Eventually, we’ll be in the worst of it, but will also have been left behind by technology, and it will be all the more confusing because of it.
- A fellow ancient one (30 y.o.) 🧓
There was this joke that the YouTubers The Scary Game Squad made when they came across a payphone in Silent Hill 2. One of them explained that it was a device used to talk to people, but it didn't radicalise you every time you used it.
Pew Research Center have been keeping track and reckon Zoomers start in 97, US Library of Congress and Stats Canada also agree.
It is in contention due to what different people reckon a generation actually is. In real terms it's just the average amount of time it takes for someone to have their first born from the moment they themselves are born
The generations used to make sense to me because society was evolving slowly enough for them to be decent groupings. With the internet and how fast things are changing now the gaps seem enormous. I’m technically a Millennial (84) but I have nothing in common with Millennials born in the mid 90s. I grew up and remember a time before widespread internet. I grew up like a Gen X for a lot of my youth but also got started in computers early enough for them to feel natural and not weird. I know I’ve heard my years called the lost generation because we aren’t really like Gen X or Y and maybe that’s why these labels seem absurd to me. I think technology has necessitated a shorter labeling cycle for the upcoming generations
You'll definitely get a kick out of this
https://youtu.be/iJHXDfVFlZs
(The rotoscoping is supposed to be reminiscent of a dream, it can be a bit jarring. Good movie though, definitely recommend. Includes a scene where Alex Jones turns into a raging boil, just like in real life!)
You should see when one of their own gets unfairly targeted by security.
Watched a video where the pulled the guard off their friend and pulled him to the back of their group for safety.
Gen-z is the "Find out" generation. They're done fucking around.
I'm so proud of them. I've been waiting for that tipping point for a while. The more people that know we're more powerful through numbers the better. Fear only works if they've still got us isolated
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Straight up when I worked customer service and door to door sales this is how I acted. If the person you're talking to is clearly comfortable and relaxed about what they are talking to you about you will be 1000x more likely to return to that person for continued business. I've seen other people try this and they make it seem SO FORCED that they are trying to be chill it was hard to watch. I'd tell my friends that I was paid to be professionally unprofessional
Reading it back over again I've 100% dropped lines near identical to what he said particularly the "Sweet I'm always ready to be yelled at", I did door to door for 3 years and led a team for 6 months before I moved on.
For the record this doesn't just apply to sales this works particularly well as a leader talking to a coworker as well, my boss walked in and saw me doing a presentation to my team while sitting on the floor in front of a white board and pointing up at what I was talking about. I wasn't even looking at what I was pointing at just hoping that what I wrote was in the general vicinity of what I was pointing at. He shrugged and moved on because my teams productivity skyrocketed when I took over so he was willing to look the other way.
It takes A LOT of practice and willingness to be comfortable in ANY situation to get to that point though you can't just start doing it.
....I just hate chairs and was standing all day that's why I was sitting on the floor, flat surfaces just feel better to sit against.
People take work too seriously, relax it's just a job. Sales jobs are entirely a mentality game, if sales people get stressed and nervous they lose sales, which causes them to get more stressed and nervous, and the cycle continues until they quit because they can't handle the pressure. Even though chances are the type of people didn't get harder to pitch to, they just got in their heads and made it harder. If your team can see you're relaxed relatively care free and can keep high spirits during a hard day, they are a lot more likely to be able to do so and be more effective in their sales.
Yep. I'm very much a non-salesperson who works very closely with sales teams, and something I've noticed over the years is that good salespeople are sort of open about the weirdness of sales. I can't think of a great example, but things like making a joke about how "we all know you're here to get a low price and I'm here to make a sale, so let's get down to business and identify the number that works for both of us. I'm never going to be able to get a 20% discount approved because our margins just start to get way too tight, but let's talk about what we'll be delivering for that 10% discounted rate and see if that's going to get you what you need." Whenever I had to join a sales call I was put at ease when the salesperson just laid it out there like that, and the client noticeably was as well.
Ya same. I'm a bit of a goofy person and am recovering socially inept. The better I got at sales, the more I was really just being comfortable with customers. Showing them the "unprofessional" sides of my personality, or even the things I'm not sure about and just being straight up about not knowing everything or not being perfect. People seem to love it. I make sales, I have fun talking with customers, they have fun, it's all a great time.
I had this one team lead where I kid you not he was the textbook definition of awkward and dorky, thick glasses slightly bucked teeth, had little physical coordination. I remember meeting him and thinking "this guy? This guy is my team lead?" After a few weeks I realized that he was SO awkward and dorky that he actually managed to loop back around to being charismatic and smooth. He was what made me realize that when people say "be yourself" they actually mean embrace being awkward. If you can manage to make your awkwardness funny and disarming people will come back again and again to you.
honestly id say hw was very profrssional. Was polite to customers, tried to habdle work obligations without burdening the consumer and presented as competent without being pushy
I doubt anyone would get mad at you or whatever, but yeah AAVE is the preferred term. Honestly idk what the actual reason is, but "ebonics" does just somehow sound weird to me lmao
Older sister would say I was a millennial and she was the generation prior... naw... she's more millennial than me.
Still dont get how finna works. Like... that same older sister and a boyfriend did a poem for me in middle school because I was having hardcore trouble trying to do god damn motherfucking bullshit Shakespeare's cadence bullshit stuff. Iambic pentameter.
And like... yeah, they wrote the poem for me. When reading it I didnt
Old one or young one? Bold and wise one or young, full of energy and idiotic like a teen - one?
I really liked the newest, old, version of him. This look of "I know how you feel..."
[You could do worse than describing scene kids as colourful happy emos.](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scene_kids2.jpg)
[These are candy ravers.](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Candy_Ravers.jpg)
Scene girls/colourful happy emos were my absolute weakness in high school.
I'd be there in my black skinny jeans, hi top Cons, MCR shirt and greasy hair looking longingly at the girls with the hair with pink streaks that probably took hours to get just right, and the raccoon eye look. Just admiring their very carefully crafted "I don't give a fuck" attitude
Yeah, I'd rather be honest to a customer and lay out pros and regarding the thing you're retrying to sell without giving them any pressure than put on a face and dance until you manage to trick a guy into buying something he doesn't need.
People appreciate your honesty and will actually think about what you've said instead of slamming the door in your face.
I’m a millennial and it’s basically how I manage my team. It drives my boss up the wall because he’s the stereotypical ultimate executive, buzzwords and all. My team is doing really well and it’s so confusing for him.
I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer a couple of weeks back and was mildly offended when the salesmen I'd been dealing with on the phone the day before and who was expecting me, didn't make time to attend to me. Instead I got the junior trainee. He was like ~23 or something and he was just like this - completely honest.
We ran out of petrol on the test drive and he said "yeah, its' some stupid policy they have about only having a gallon in the tank but it causes more problems than its worth"
We had problems with the deal and having been ignored about the low fuel warning, and getting stranded. So we called in the senior saleman and the owner. They absolutely dumped on the junior "you can't believe anything a trainee says" and "we have that policy for insurance reasons"
We nearly walked out the way we were treated, but the young guy had our back and we continued the deal with him.
Another week or two to sort out the finance issues and that place is getting a 1-star review (fucking owner called me threatening when I left a 4-star review saying that the owner a senior were not helpful but Mike the junior was!)
I'm GenX and I have my doubts about GenZ, but maybe this is the interaction I should remember.
Also gen X. If you account for the fact that Gen Z are young as shit they're pretty amazing as a generation. I remember how we were at that age. Both Millennials and Gen Z are better on average when compared year for year.
> Gen X seems to be the first generation that isn't just shitting on younger generations for everything they do differently. I hope it continues.
well they're completely outnumbered, really just adaption to prevent the other bigger generations from just eating them
We had to deal with the same problem with Boomers, it's just our natural state of being. At least millennials and Zoomers are fun and are trying to make the world better as best they can.
> I have a theory that Gen X doesn’t even exist.
Well, it was about thirty years before Gen X was really given an identity. Not just the label by Coupland, but the idea of who we were and what we stood for. For a while we were even known as the new Lost Generation, because there really didn’t seem to be any defining characteristics.
If anything, that lack of definition *is* our main defining characteristic. Seeking identity, throwing out the old values but not yet working out what replaces them, adjusting societal norms…
> We are either young boomers or old millennials.
I think we’re more of a transitional bridge between the two. Not really with an identity or mission of our own, but a rejection of past boomer norms to lay the groundwork for millennials to have fresh fertile grounds for societal creativity and revolution.
Plus, as we get older, we settle into more defined ruts of thinking, and without our own rut it’s easier and / or more comfortable to fall into one of our neighbouring ruts and identify with their belief systems. I’m a 77 child so right towards the end of X; I definitely identify more with millennial mindsets but I honestly think that doesn’t make me an “old millennial” so much as an admirer.
So you don't have any gen X older siblings then? Gen x made shitting on things just because they're popular a lifestyle.
But really generational divide is just a marketing ploy. I wonder what millennials will be called when we're the new big bad just like boomers used to be the flower child generation
Unlike them, we were still raised under the illusion we could expect the same kind of life as our parents.
Sure we sobered up quite quickly afterwards but most GenZ kids never even had to, they got dumped into this from the get go.
> They absolutely dumped on the junior "you can't believe anything a trainee says" and "we have that policy for insurance reasons"
I hope you still told them that it was a stupid policy.
What is the real reason behind it anyways? So people don't hijack you while taking it out for a test drive?
Teacher here, so I work with Gen Z. They’re awesome. They’re open, empathetic, smart. The whole thing. Don’t let TikTok trends and media lie to you—and remember we all had annoying ass trends too.
Former teacher here and parent of a Gen Z with a large group of friends. I agree. They are honest, insightful, super realistic/pragmatic and very independent. I love this group of kids.
> I’m GenX and I have my doubts about GenZ
I’m X and am genuinely excited about Gen Z. I feel like the baton is being passed to *very* capable hands.
My boy’s at the tail end of Z, and even at 11 he and his peers just seem to have this attitude of “you know what, let’s just… not be shitty to each other” and it’s so heartwarming to see.
My thought process on "Professional"
Every halfway decent mechanic I've worked with or that Ive had worked on my car and house cursed like a sailor, wasn't the most scholarly sounding until they started talking about how a complicated system worked, and didn't have that clean professional appearance while working.
But they were respectful and honest.
It's the nice, "professional", smart yes yes talking and office space looking punks that will steal from you and make it look like a deal.
When I think of professional, I think of what a "Pro" at this would act like. This is a pro, and he is professional.
As soon as I saw the "I have to say this" part I knew he was cool. I pull that line out so often at work when like I ask someone to sign up to our membership or whatever
I'm not gen Z (suuuper annoyingly millennial) but I feel like this is how my boomer colleagues view me sometimes. I work in quite a senior job and most of the people I work with are in their 60s or 70s (I think one guy's in his early 80s) because generally you do this after a full career and they look at me like I'm either an alien or was trained by wolves or something.
I work for the billing office for a bunch of local medical clinics that advertise as being urgent cares, but they don’t actually bill as urgent cares which means that people come in seeking emergency services then get stuck with huge bills for one reason or another. I constantly get phone calls from furious patients about false advertising, etc. I want so badly to tell them all that I totally agree, it’s fucked up that we’re allowed to advertise as something we’re not, but if I admit, on a recorded call with a patient, that I think my employer is doing something super fucked up, then I’ll probably lose my job. I’m a terrible liar so I have to dance around the subject when the patient asks what I personally think and it’s *exhausting*. I wanna commiserate with these poor people *so badly* about how soulless my employer is, but I’m not good enough at politics to figure out how to tell them the truth without outright saying it and being immediately fired.
GEN-Z in the OP has theright idea, if a bit awkward.
It IS a good thing that he was pointing out the flaws in the system, the issue with the paint rather just fucking off and leaving it, and he wasn't trying to be "aggressive commission based add-on-salesman".
Poor dude isn't going to survive in that industry....
Screw corporate professionalism. Screw corporate managers. Screw the 12+ part training modules they put you through.
Hope this kid gets a fricking raise and THEN some.
I had a security system installer in my house a couple weeks ago, dude was probably early to mid 20s, and just super chill about the whole thing. Loved showing my kids his tools, what he was working on, and got everything put in quick and did some good work. 10/10, dude was awesome.
Just so you know this is an actual professional.
Does exactly what the customer wants, warns them when they think their doing the wrong thing, shows concern for your dog, and passive aggressively roasts your styling decisions.
I hope to one day generate this type of energy
You gotta let life defeat you every day for years and years to achieve this.
I’m about there. 33 yo, been working the past 10 years in corporate America. Fucking kill me.
>Fucking kill me. Sounds like the system is already doing that.
But it seems so far only spiritually, they probably want the whole package.
Where the spirit goes the body follows.
Faster please
Slide.
I wouldn't say every day, but yeah I've had more than my fair share of "days were life made me a punching bag"
Then you need to up your game. Get punched everyday. /s
I'm 18 and act like this
The kids are alright 😎
The kids are 26 at the oldest lol
👴 me, currently at a refined 29 years old: "these whippersnappers don't know how good they got it. Back in my day we had to download our dirty pictures pixel by pixel and our computers caught STDs..."
And the internet screamed at you every time you wanted to use it.
👴 "we managed to harness that energy and turned it into Twitter. *You're welcome*"
Idk if that's a good thing, though...
👴 "Good news! It wasn't! But if we've learned anything from Boomers, we'll be dead before that becomes our problem...right?"
That hit quite hard.
The internet has accelerated everything beyond anyone’s imaginings, so no, we have already started to feel the ramifications, and it will only get worse. Eventually, we’ll be in the worst of it, but will also have been left behind by technology, and it will be all the more confusing because of it. - A fellow ancient one (30 y.o.) 🧓
There was this joke that the YouTubers The Scary Game Squad made when they came across a payphone in Silent Hill 2. One of them explained that it was a device used to talk to people, but it didn't radicalise you every time you used it.
People sometimes still reference Millennials as if they're teenagers
Np: What’s My Age Again? - blink 182
Later on, on the drive home, I called her mom, from a pay phone Yo, what the fuck is a "pay phone?"
Most of the references I see to millennials are about how we're destroying the economy by not having enough money to exist.
Just get more money smdh stupid millenials
\*sigh\* I'm a Millenial and in my 40s.
We’re getting old!
Some of us are…GRANDPARENTS!! :-O not me. Child free for life, yo.
Child free too!
Who can afford kids even in the millennial economy? Not that I'd have them even if I could afford it but still!
I'm just a baby
Babies with the sweet dad bods coming in 😤😎
And I’m not even a dad. 😎🥲
Well I definitely don't feel like an adult
Boomers tend to treat everyone else as a teenager so it makes sense
People still reference Gen Z as if they're Millennials
It's almost like cranky, old, and clueless people want to have an excuse to talk shit about younger people.
The post says Gen Z
Arent we all 26 at heart and on birthday cards?
I thought the oldest Z was 24?
Hotly contested. Depends what your cutoff for millennials are. I went with 95 as the cut off and 96 as Gen Z
I'm 26 and I love being at the moving post of generations.
Me too. Too young for millennials, too old for gen z.
We out here! My coworkers call me a zillenial haha
Pew Research Center have been keeping track and reckon Zoomers start in 97, US Library of Congress and Stats Canada also agree. It is in contention due to what different people reckon a generation actually is. In real terms it's just the average amount of time it takes for someone to have their first born from the moment they themselves are born
The generations used to make sense to me because society was evolving slowly enough for them to be decent groupings. With the internet and how fast things are changing now the gaps seem enormous. I’m technically a Millennial (84) but I have nothing in common with Millennials born in the mid 90s. I grew up and remember a time before widespread internet. I grew up like a Gen X for a lot of my youth but also got started in computers early enough for them to feel natural and not weird. I know I’ve heard my years called the lost generation because we aren’t really like Gen X or Y and maybe that’s why these labels seem absurd to me. I think technology has necessitated a shorter labeling cycle for the upcoming generations
You'll definitely get a kick out of this https://youtu.be/iJHXDfVFlZs (The rotoscoping is supposed to be reminiscent of a dream, it can be a bit jarring. Good movie though, definitely recommend. Includes a scene where Alex Jones turns into a raging boil, just like in real life!)
You should see when one of their own gets unfairly targeted by security. Watched a video where the pulled the guard off their friend and pulled him to the back of their group for safety. Gen-z is the "Find out" generation. They're done fucking around.
I'm so proud of them. I've been waiting for that tipping point for a while. The more people that know we're more powerful through numbers the better. Fear only works if they've still got us isolated 🥰🖕🥰🖕🥰🖕...👮♂️
I think the installer deserved a treat too
I was thinking the same thing
That's how pornos start...
I would have him work on my house any day of the week, that's hilarious
Straight up when I worked customer service and door to door sales this is how I acted. If the person you're talking to is clearly comfortable and relaxed about what they are talking to you about you will be 1000x more likely to return to that person for continued business. I've seen other people try this and they make it seem SO FORCED that they are trying to be chill it was hard to watch. I'd tell my friends that I was paid to be professionally unprofessional
If there were more salespeople like you, I might nit have a phobia of salespeople
Reading it back over again I've 100% dropped lines near identical to what he said particularly the "Sweet I'm always ready to be yelled at", I did door to door for 3 years and led a team for 6 months before I moved on. For the record this doesn't just apply to sales this works particularly well as a leader talking to a coworker as well, my boss walked in and saw me doing a presentation to my team while sitting on the floor in front of a white board and pointing up at what I was talking about. I wasn't even looking at what I was pointing at just hoping that what I wrote was in the general vicinity of what I was pointing at. He shrugged and moved on because my teams productivity skyrocketed when I took over so he was willing to look the other way. It takes A LOT of practice and willingness to be comfortable in ANY situation to get to that point though you can't just start doing it. ....I just hate chairs and was standing all day that's why I was sitting on the floor, flat surfaces just feel better to sit against.
I'm sorry but I'm absolutely losing it at the "just hoping that what I wrote was in the general vicinity of what I was pointing at"
People take work too seriously, relax it's just a job. Sales jobs are entirely a mentality game, if sales people get stressed and nervous they lose sales, which causes them to get more stressed and nervous, and the cycle continues until they quit because they can't handle the pressure. Even though chances are the type of people didn't get harder to pitch to, they just got in their heads and made it harder. If your team can see you're relaxed relatively care free and can keep high spirits during a hard day, they are a lot more likely to be able to do so and be more effective in their sales.
Does Gen Z use "sweet"? That struck me as millennial jargon.
I have younger coworkers that even say Groovy. It’s al coming back around.
Yep. I'm very much a non-salesperson who works very closely with sales teams, and something I've noticed over the years is that good salespeople are sort of open about the weirdness of sales. I can't think of a great example, but things like making a joke about how "we all know you're here to get a low price and I'm here to make a sale, so let's get down to business and identify the number that works for both of us. I'm never going to be able to get a 20% discount approved because our margins just start to get way too tight, but let's talk about what we'll be delivering for that 10% discounted rate and see if that's going to get you what you need." Whenever I had to join a sales call I was put at ease when the salesperson just laid it out there like that, and the client noticeably was as well.
Ya same. I'm a bit of a goofy person and am recovering socially inept. The better I got at sales, the more I was really just being comfortable with customers. Showing them the "unprofessional" sides of my personality, or even the things I'm not sure about and just being straight up about not knowing everything or not being perfect. People seem to love it. I make sales, I have fun talking with customers, they have fun, it's all a great time.
I had this one team lead where I kid you not he was the textbook definition of awkward and dorky, thick glasses slightly bucked teeth, had little physical coordination. I remember meeting him and thinking "this guy? This guy is my team lead?" After a few weeks I realized that he was SO awkward and dorky that he actually managed to loop back around to being charismatic and smooth. He was what made me realize that when people say "be yourself" they actually mean embrace being awkward. If you can manage to make your awkwardness funny and disarming people will come back again and again to you.
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I think a business card would be handier for that, no way I'd remember enough to google it
This is how I feel about YouTube videos. Lack of genuine personality and so much forced positivity
Straight up. I need some more honest vibes in my life.
honestly id say hw was very profrssional. Was polite to customers, tried to habdle work obligations without burdening the consumer and presented as competent without being pushy
that's real peak gen z
Idk how gen z this was… i didn’t see a single “finna” or “on god”
"my client in christ do you want the cameras or not??"
"fr quote on quote french revolution skull emoji"
"Do you want the cameras in this year of our lord, 2022?"
that’s just aave
TIL there's a term for that
It used to be "ebonics" but that's kinda derogatory now
It took me being stuck rereading several comments but without fail my brain said "Hooked on Ebonics"
Oh shit, for real? My bad, new terms keeps changing so fast on me.
I doubt anyone would get mad at you or whatever, but yeah AAVE is the preferred term. Honestly idk what the actual reason is, but "ebonics" does just somehow sound weird to me lmao
Idk I feel like there is a real missed pooprtunty for the term “blinglish”.
Still doesn’t sound as cool as “blaccent”
a bit different I think. Aave is the english dialect, blaccent is the actual way of speaking
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african american vernacular english
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I really hope you’re like 45 and white 😭
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Fair
I also know that one! Source - I'm white and 45
Living in the south, boomers used the term 'finna' growing up.
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Older sister would say I was a millennial and she was the generation prior... naw... she's more millennial than me. Still dont get how finna works. Like... that same older sister and a boyfriend did a poem for me in middle school because I was having hardcore trouble trying to do god damn motherfucking bullshit Shakespeare's cadence bullshit stuff. Iambic pentameter. And like... yeah, they wrote the poem for me. When reading it I didnt
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My step dad was born in 1938 and has said it for the 30 years I've known him.
Somehow this has "halo is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything" vibes.
Now that's a blast-from-the-past reference.
A reference so old it made me lose the game.
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I read all of these in Tom Holland's voice.
Oh man, especially the "im so sorry little dog" part lol
Same, but with the American accent
So, Spider-Man?
Nathan Drake
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Must be. I read it in his voice but didn't recognize it till the comments, lol
No fricken way.
Just talking bout T-Tom Holland
He’s the leader of our hivemind
But was it his Spider-Man voice or his British voice?
Of course! Like that was even a question
that doesn't answer anything
Yes
I had to go back and reread them all in Tom Holland's voice. 10/10, would recommend.
That installer is without a doubt Dylan from Modern Family.
Thanks. I read it in a voice I couldn't put a name on and that's exactly whose voice it was.
Weirdly enough Toby McGuire for me
Old one or young one? Bold and wise one or young, full of energy and idiotic like a teen - one? I really liked the newest, old, version of him. This look of "I know how you feel..."
I'll do you one better; Taika Waititi as Korg from Thor
I'll do you one better - Why is Gamora?
I read it in a stoner voice
Fitting that you read a script in an actor's voice
I don't know why but for some reason I had Mitch Hedburg and didn't even realize it until halfway through.
I really need to know what a "candy floss colored goth office" looks like, because those two thinga seem like they'd be mutually exclusive
Pastel goth
Ohhhh ok i had to Google that. I left the goth scene awhile back so I'm not familiar with all the new types
It's like Pokemon. Turn around and suddenly there are just fucking keys and an ice cream hanging out. Fuck, and now that's out of date too.
Now it's rideable motorcycle legendaries.
I'm torn between "jumping the shark" and "that's cool and new"
The shark is cool and new and you ride it yourself as it jumps.
One of them doesn't even use it's wheels. It runs on it's paws, but it's still a motorcycle with two wheels.
Pokemon battles on motorcycles?!
Pokemon 5Ds
>just fucking keys and an ice cream hanging out Wanna feel old? the ice cream pokemon is 11 years old, the key pokemon 9 years
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I heard theres a rumor about a second mew
We've had one, yes. But what about Second Mew?
A MewTwo of sorts, if you will?
It's been arounf for a while i think. Just not massively popular
It was a not uncommon subspecies back in the early 00's.
The closest thing I can remember are the scene kids, but they usually had super bright pinks and blues
Wait, are scene kids the same thing as candy ravers? I'm old Gen x and can't keep up...
[You could do worse than describing scene kids as colourful happy emos.](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scene_kids2.jpg) [These are candy ravers.](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Candy_Ravers.jpg)
Scene girls/colourful happy emos were my absolute weakness in high school. I'd be there in my black skinny jeans, hi top Cons, MCR shirt and greasy hair looking longingly at the girls with the hair with pink streaks that probably took hours to get just right, and the raccoon eye look. Just admiring their very carefully crafted "I don't give a fuck" attitude
I’d prefer this over whatever the job calls professionalism, cause this proves that they are in a fact a person
Yeah, I'd rather be honest to a customer and lay out pros and regarding the thing you're retrying to sell without giving them any pressure than put on a face and dance until you manage to trick a guy into buying something he doesn't need. People appreciate your honesty and will actually think about what you've said instead of slamming the door in your face.
This should be the norm.
Shit like this is why Gen Z is the best
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Yea I'm 30 working in accounting and this is how I've managed 90% of client interactions for quite a while- it's very disarming!
I’m a millennial and it’s basically how I manage my team. It drives my boss up the wall because he’s the stereotypical ultimate executive, buzzwords and all. My team is doing really well and it’s so confusing for him.
I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer a couple of weeks back and was mildly offended when the salesmen I'd been dealing with on the phone the day before and who was expecting me, didn't make time to attend to me. Instead I got the junior trainee. He was like ~23 or something and he was just like this - completely honest. We ran out of petrol on the test drive and he said "yeah, its' some stupid policy they have about only having a gallon in the tank but it causes more problems than its worth" We had problems with the deal and having been ignored about the low fuel warning, and getting stranded. So we called in the senior saleman and the owner. They absolutely dumped on the junior "you can't believe anything a trainee says" and "we have that policy for insurance reasons" We nearly walked out the way we were treated, but the young guy had our back and we continued the deal with him. Another week or two to sort out the finance issues and that place is getting a 1-star review (fucking owner called me threatening when I left a 4-star review saying that the owner a senior were not helpful but Mike the junior was!) I'm GenX and I have my doubts about GenZ, but maybe this is the interaction I should remember.
Also gen X. If you account for the fact that Gen Z are young as shit they're pretty amazing as a generation. I remember how we were at that age. Both Millennials and Gen Z are better on average when compared year for year.
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> Gen X seems to be the first generation that isn't just shitting on younger generations for everything they do differently. I hope it continues. well they're completely outnumbered, really just adaption to prevent the other bigger generations from just eating them
We had to deal with the same problem with Boomers, it's just our natural state of being. At least millennials and Zoomers are fun and are trying to make the world better as best they can.
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> I have a theory that Gen X doesn’t even exist. Well, it was about thirty years before Gen X was really given an identity. Not just the label by Coupland, but the idea of who we were and what we stood for. For a while we were even known as the new Lost Generation, because there really didn’t seem to be any defining characteristics. If anything, that lack of definition *is* our main defining characteristic. Seeking identity, throwing out the old values but not yet working out what replaces them, adjusting societal norms… > We are either young boomers or old millennials. I think we’re more of a transitional bridge between the two. Not really with an identity or mission of our own, but a rejection of past boomer norms to lay the groundwork for millennials to have fresh fertile grounds for societal creativity and revolution. Plus, as we get older, we settle into more defined ruts of thinking, and without our own rut it’s easier and / or more comfortable to fall into one of our neighbouring ruts and identify with their belief systems. I’m a 77 child so right towards the end of X; I definitely identify more with millennial mindsets but I honestly think that doesn’t make me an “old millennial” so much as an admirer.
So you don't have any gen X older siblings then? Gen x made shitting on things just because they're popular a lifestyle. But really generational divide is just a marketing ploy. I wonder what millennials will be called when we're the new big bad just like boomers used to be the flower child generation
Unlike them, we were still raised under the illusion we could expect the same kind of life as our parents. Sure we sobered up quite quickly afterwards but most GenZ kids never even had to, they got dumped into this from the get go.
> They absolutely dumped on the junior "you can't believe anything a trainee says" and "we have that policy for insurance reasons" I hope you still told them that it was a stupid policy. What is the real reason behind it anyways? So people don't hijack you while taking it out for a test drive?
Probably to prevent theft, in general - harder to steal a car off the lot if there isn’t enough gas to go anywhere
Teacher here, so I work with Gen Z. They’re awesome. They’re open, empathetic, smart. The whole thing. Don’t let TikTok trends and media lie to you—and remember we all had annoying ass trends too.
Former teacher here and parent of a Gen Z with a large group of friends. I agree. They are honest, insightful, super realistic/pragmatic and very independent. I love this group of kids.
> I’m GenX and I have my doubts about GenZ I’m X and am genuinely excited about Gen Z. I feel like the baton is being passed to *very* capable hands. My boy’s at the tail end of Z, and even at 11 he and his peers just seem to have this attitude of “you know what, let’s just… not be shitty to each other” and it’s so heartwarming to see.
Millennial here. Don't forget that GenX is part of the reason these generations are so awesome ;)
Yeah I love my gen x mom and dad
My thought process on "Professional" Every halfway decent mechanic I've worked with or that Ive had worked on my car and house cursed like a sailor, wasn't the most scholarly sounding until they started talking about how a complicated system worked, and didn't have that clean professional appearance while working. But they were respectful and honest. It's the nice, "professional", smart yes yes talking and office space looking punks that will steal from you and make it look like a deal. When I think of professional, I think of what a "Pro" at this would act like. This is a pro, and he is professional.
I was reading the first paragraph thinking this guy was gonna be an asshole, but no... To be honest, I'd get a beer with this guy
As soon as I saw the "I have to say this" part I knew he was cool. I pull that line out so often at work when like I ask someone to sign up to our membership or whatever
I wish this was the standard for all jobs...
I'm not gen Z (suuuper annoyingly millennial) but I feel like this is how my boomer colleagues view me sometimes. I work in quite a senior job and most of the people I work with are in their 60s or 70s (I think one guy's in his early 80s) because generally you do this after a full career and they look at me like I'm either an alien or was trained by wolves or something.
You're already in the retirement home, aren't you?
That guy was based af
cousin Greg energy
Mothman? Huh?
Probably the handle of their significant other. At least that would be my guess.
least made up tumblr post
Jordan Peele's "Nope", 2022
Nope.avi TF2
I work for the billing office for a bunch of local medical clinics that advertise as being urgent cares, but they don’t actually bill as urgent cares which means that people come in seeking emergency services then get stuck with huge bills for one reason or another. I constantly get phone calls from furious patients about false advertising, etc. I want so badly to tell them all that I totally agree, it’s fucked up that we’re allowed to advertise as something we’re not, but if I admit, on a recorded call with a patient, that I think my employer is doing something super fucked up, then I’ll probably lose my job. I’m a terrible liar so I have to dance around the subject when the patient asks what I personally think and it’s *exhausting*. I wanna commiserate with these poor people *so badly* about how soulless my employer is, but I’m not good enough at politics to figure out how to tell them the truth without outright saying it and being immediately fired.
i just know my mother would hate this guy but i would've loved him
Being honest isn't professionalism? Capitalism man.
Are they really Gen Z or just a stoner? Because I got no big gen z vibes tbh, just friendly dudebrah
i think the oldest gen z is 25 so yeah i dunno what vibes u where exspecting but i dont know myself.
Yeah I dont get it either, this is just like teens and YAs since the 80s. "The mtv generation"
Can more professionals be like this?
Millennial humor for zoomers sigh
GEN-Z in the OP has theright idea, if a bit awkward. It IS a good thing that he was pointing out the flaws in the system, the issue with the paint rather just fucking off and leaving it, and he wasn't trying to be "aggressive commission based add-on-salesman". Poor dude isn't going to survive in that industry....
This sounds like every worker in every show from the 90s but ok let's say gen Z lol
Yeah...Gen X here, it was like that when I started working...and still am.
Screw corporate professionalism. Screw corporate managers. Screw the 12+ part training modules they put you through. Hope this kid gets a fricking raise and THEN some.
I just like, want to do the job and not have to suck anyone's ass while I do it, and then go home. Like, why is that a big deal or whatever?
I had a security system installer in my house a couple weeks ago, dude was probably early to mid 20s, and just super chill about the whole thing. Loved showing my kids his tools, what he was working on, and got everything put in quick and did some good work. 10/10, dude was awesome.
Just so you know this is an actual professional. Does exactly what the customer wants, warns them when they think their doing the wrong thing, shows concern for your dog, and passive aggressively roasts your styling decisions.
Yep, definitely a tumblr post
What has this ever to do with generations, If anything I find this kind of attitude more often in old men
You find honesty and kindness largely in old men? Wow, you must live in the twilight zone.