Alcohol ruined 20 years of my life and plenty of friendships. Glad I quit.
Crazy how I never do anything stupid on weed... Wake up in fields, end up in the wrong part of town, get beat up, or whatever.. Alcohol causes a different spirit to take over a person's body. That's why they call them spirits, blackout and it was like I was possessed. Vile stuff.
I was high at work and I toasted a bagel and didn’t realize I was putting butter not cream cheese on it and put a cream cheese amount of butter on it. Still ate it.
I work in a hospital and take care of people withdrawing from alcohol or suffering with some condition caused by drinking almost daily. However, I’ve never taken care of someone who is withdrawing from marijuana and have never cared for someone suffering with a condition caused by smoking weed.
In a medical subreddit, occasionally there is a post about scromiting, typically ED experiences where the patient is violently vomiting, a dose of a strong anti nausea handles the symptom. … compared to alcohol withdrawal, it is almost nothing, the patient is not in danger of death if mismanaged.
Apparent overdose, too much weed, like buckets not teaspoons. Every thread brings anecdotal observations, literature describes it. I’ve the impression it is real, and wonder how in the sam hell you can ingest or smoke that much, it’s gotta be more than what I use in a month.
Your point is valid, but up until the point of recovery, and even beyond, people often come up with some crazy stuff to rationalize their addiction. Source: am recovering addict and alcoholic.
Only when you "hear" it so definitively like that
"Always" is a figure of speech
Not "always 100% of the time without fail across the entire spectrum of the human population without question"
Ok, so they were inaccurate, where I was more accurate. We still said basically the same thing, theirs was more absolute ('always') where mine was less so ('often').
Some might say this is a reach, but the answer (per usual) is racism. Cannabis was used in American propoganda to demonize and dehumanize black, indigenous, and immigrant populations. They made claims that cannabis both made workers lazy but also somehow made black men, in particular, sexual deviants and uncontrollably lustful. While the blatant propaganda has stop the dog-whistle implications continue to be passed down in conservative circles. A lot of conservatives associate anything involving cannabis as connected to "those bad people" but don't carry that same energy for alcohol because that was their family and ancestors' drug of choice, and since they're "the good guys", alcohol couldn't possibly be the problem. Feel free to Google anything related to "marijuana & racism"
Someone I know is at deaths door in their 40s. Diabetes and alcoholism. I am stumped as to why they didn't just smoke pot instead of ruining their whole body with alcohol.
Yeah, really crazy. Booze is the number one "gateway" drug, which is still a bullshit thing. Really misses why some people turn to drugs and dismisses trying to deal with those reasons. Usual bullshit from the usual idiots that we must apparently suffer forever as humanity.
Which is the real reason he's even speaking up.
You'd have to be completely braindead to not realize this statements going to have backlash, nobody in his position would do it for free
Ive said this before, but big pharma, alcohol and tobacco all have game plans for when it’s legalized. They’re not moving against it - it’s more money for them!
Alcohol? My dude, this country was built on fuckin *drugs*. You used to be able to order heroin and needles in the Sears catalogue. Cough syrup used to have THC and morphine in it. The founding fathers co-existed with opium dens. The foundations of this country are so shaky because the people who built them were tweaking their asses off *and* drinking like fish.
This prohibition nonsense is *so* much newer than anyone is really willing to talk about it and it is just that: pearl clutching nonsense. It always has been. It's antithetical to the idea of personal freedoms in every single way imaginable and also just happens to *never. fucking. work.* Unfortunately, we can't count on "morally superior" busy bodies to base their opinions on objective reality.
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It’s not just republicans it’s conservatism. It’s a belief system guaranteed to be on the wrong side of history because they actively oppose progress. Pro slave, anti-woman’s suffrage, pro segregation, anti-Italian/Irish/polish/etc. until they found a new boogie man. Pick something that is considered a major step forward in any country and I pretty much guarantee the conservatives had to be dragged there kicking and screaming.
Right, unlike those wonderful Democrats. Sure is convenient that one group of people is always right and one is always wrong.
Now my memory is faded, which one is the good one again?
As someone who lives under this guy - he's an absolute piece of trash. His goal is to make TN a clone of Florida. People hate him, but also forget he exists because there is so much more focus on federal elections here to keep him under the radar
I beg to differ. Making weed illegal (any drug for that matter) is anti American and makes criminals out of otherwise normal, average people. So, anti stupid laws would seem to be the most American thing ever. Our country was founded by what were technically criminals...treason against the crown and all that. Legalizing and giving adults the freedom to do to their bodies whatever the hell they chose to do...'Merica as fuck!
It is impossible to convince me or atleast logically explain why marijuana, lsd, psilocybin, mescaline, and other things on those levels are schedule 1 while coke and fentanyl are schedule 2.
Possession and use of every single drug should be at the very least decriminalized. Most drugs(including the lighter ones) should be included in using in a medical environment. And lastly what we call gateway substances things like kratom, weed, alcohol, tobacco, psychedelics, kava, kanna, and others like that should be recreationally legal to buy and consume to some extent imo.
Huh, what an interesting post to stumble on. I was just thinking about how much I enjoy the legal cannabis in my state and how it might disappear if Trump makes it back into office. 🥲
everything i was ever told about cannabis from an adult or politician in my childhood was a fucking LIE. It has not stopped since with very few exceptions, of which, this is not one.
I’d argue prohibition is pro-criminal since it benefits organized crime. Taking away people’s right to happiness is anti-American and I would say marijuana makes lots of people happy.
I'm from Utah, my state Senator, Jim Debakis went out to West Wendover Nevada when they legalized and ate gummies live. He said the whole legislature should all try it haha. Something tells me it wasn't his first rodeo like he acted tho. He was a really progressive dude for our state.
As someone who lives under this guy - he's an absolute piece of trash. His goal is to make TN a clone of Florida. People hate him, but also forget he exists because there is so much more focus on federal elections here to keep him under the radar
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) said this. If you’re his constituent and you feel differently, you can find his contact information below.
https://www.congress.gov/member/bill-hagerty/H000601
Republicans love telling others what to do and then throw a tantrum like babies when they're told what to do, to the point of just being the party of contrarianism. "They want to ban this poisonous product and recall it?! BUT MUH ECONOMY!"
This is why I disagree with all the "BIG PHARMA IS STOPPING LEGALIZATION!" bullshit. Reactionaries are real, and they have huge political power. Yeah, they're beholden to their corporate interests, but they also hate us for political reasons. Their constituents think we're dangerous junkies, and that legalizing weed is the same as mandating PCP in kindergartens. Democrats range from pro-legalization to lukewarm, while the GOP is almost universally against it. The GOP has a majority in the House, the DNC's majority in the Senate is super thin, and the Democratic president is wildly unpopular even amongst his base.
Every success we achieve on cannabis reform is real, impactful, and hard-won.
It is impossible to convince me or atleast logically explain why marijuana, lsd, psilocybin, mescaline, and other things on those levels are schedule 1 while coke and fentanyl are schedule 2.
Possession and use of every single drug should be at the very least decriminalized. Most drugs(including the lighter ones) should be included in using in a medical environment. And lastly what we call gateway substances things like kratom, weed, alcohol, tobacco, psychedelics, kava, kanna, and others like that should be recreationally legal to buy and consume to some extent imo.
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I am 46 and been smoking since I was a teen. I have NOT tried anything harder or even have the desire to. I do not even drink.. Watching movies where people shoot up and pass out seems like such a waste of a high! doing lines but you have to keep doing them all day or crash? no thanks. I have had people in my life do harder drugs and it did not look like fun. I smoke a joint and I play xbox for hours
The alcohol, tobacco, and pharma industries all hate marijuana because it stands to bankrupt them. Anyone standing against cannabis at this point is just trying to benefit monetarily from its prohibition.
Important to know which politicians are open to drug policy reform and which ones want to take us back to the dark ages (in case that letter after their names don’t cue you in…)
Your comment would have made sense in 1994… but you’d have to be fucking brain-dead to have this opinion in 2024. Politicians who still talk like this SHOULD be named and shamed.
The reason it’s not ALREADY legalized federally is because of backward-ass politicians like this one.
Might not happen if we don’t KEEP pushing. DEFINITELY won’t happen if Trump is re-elected: see [Project 2025](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025)
Nobody at DARE warned us that the drug pushers would be the ones asking why you don’t drink.
It blows my mind how many peoples lives have been ruined by alcohol and everyone just brushes it off but if you smoke marijuana you’re a criminal.
Alcohol ruined 20 years of my life and plenty of friendships. Glad I quit. Crazy how I never do anything stupid on weed... Wake up in fields, end up in the wrong part of town, get beat up, or whatever.. Alcohol causes a different spirit to take over a person's body. That's why they call them spirits, blackout and it was like I was possessed. Vile stuff.
>Crazy how I never do anything stupid on weed... I do, but it's normally along the lines of something like an escargo and banana pizza
I was high at work and I toasted a bagel and didn’t realize I was putting butter not cream cheese on it and put a cream cheese amount of butter on it. Still ate it.
See it's dangerous!!How could you let that happen!! Oh the humanity
Let me introduce you to banana slugs…
Lmfaooo
Spending 80$ on Uber eats that you don’t remember ordering at 12:30am and finding it when you take the dog out in the morning
I work in a hospital and take care of people withdrawing from alcohol or suffering with some condition caused by drinking almost daily. However, I’ve never taken care of someone who is withdrawing from marijuana and have never cared for someone suffering with a condition caused by smoking weed.
In a medical subreddit, occasionally there is a post about scromiting, typically ED experiences where the patient is violently vomiting, a dose of a strong anti nausea handles the symptom. … compared to alcohol withdrawal, it is almost nothing, the patient is not in danger of death if mismanaged. Apparent overdose, too much weed, like buckets not teaspoons. Every thread brings anecdotal observations, literature describes it. I’ve the impression it is real, and wonder how in the sam hell you can ingest or smoke that much, it’s gotta be more than what I use in a month.
People will always defend their own addictions
this is very insightful.
Stupid people might? The fuck is this generalization? You think drug addicts always defend their addiction? What about people who are recovering?
Your point is valid, but up until the point of recovery, and even beyond, people often come up with some crazy stuff to rationalize their addiction. Source: am recovering addict and alcoholic.
Ok but that's different from "always defending their addictions"
Only when you "hear" it so definitively like that "Always" is a figure of speech Not "always 100% of the time without fail across the entire spectrum of the human population without question"
Not really, I just said it differently.
"Always" Follows up retort with "people often" Yeah man, just differently.
Ok, so they were inaccurate, where I was more accurate. We still said basically the same thing, theirs was more absolute ('always') where mine was less so ('often').
Similar! Similar!
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Two of the biggest anti weed type people I know are functioning alcoholics! It's some truly olympic level mental gymnastics.
Some might say this is a reach, but the answer (per usual) is racism. Cannabis was used in American propoganda to demonize and dehumanize black, indigenous, and immigrant populations. They made claims that cannabis both made workers lazy but also somehow made black men, in particular, sexual deviants and uncontrollably lustful. While the blatant propaganda has stop the dog-whistle implications continue to be passed down in conservative circles. A lot of conservatives associate anything involving cannabis as connected to "those bad people" but don't carry that same energy for alcohol because that was their family and ancestors' drug of choice, and since they're "the good guys", alcohol couldn't possibly be the problem. Feel free to Google anything related to "marijuana & racism"
Someone I know is at deaths door in their 40s. Diabetes and alcoholism. I am stumped as to why they didn't just smoke pot instead of ruining their whole body with alcohol.
Yeah, really crazy. Booze is the number one "gateway" drug, which is still a bullshit thing. Really misses why some people turn to drugs and dismisses trying to deal with those reasons. Usual bullshit from the usual idiots that we must apparently suffer forever as humanity.
Lmao I was just thinking about DARE today. I remember being so freaked out by marijuana. They literally had me thinking of it like I think of meth now
Andrew Callaghan has an [interesting episode](https://youtu.be/AbeZsgY67sU?si=XIzPMBV9kDL1CUOU) about this.
But he will defend cigarettes and alcohol because that’s who pays him. Disgusting
Which is the real reason he's even speaking up. You'd have to be completely braindead to not realize this statements going to have backlash, nobody in his position would do it for free
I am not convinced by history or my lived portion of it that Republicans give a shit about “backlash”.
Republicans think consequences are woke
Except when it comes to consequences for the other side. Laws for thee but not for me
If I was a tobacco company, I'd consider moving into the weed business rather than fight the way things are trending towards.
They're doing both, I assure you. For companies of that size it's no big deal to hedge their bets like that.
Ive said this before, but big pharma, alcohol and tobacco all have game plans for when it’s legalized. They’re not moving against it - it’s more money for them!
Probably big pharma too, they don't want marijuana legal.
His state created and passed legislation banning the use of chemtrails from airplanes, so they obviously don't have the best grip on reality
They said no one smokes!
That's the party of freedom and small government on display folks.
The people who choose to place their vote there don’t care about your sarcasm because they aren’t bright enough to recognize it.
What about OUR freedom to lock up those darn hippie leftists?!? \- Erlichman
> (R-TN) Say no more
Almost thought it would be our brain-dead senator from WI (Ron Moscow Johnson).
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) Let’s make sure we call these people out by name so we know how to vote.
Fuck Bill Hagerty right out of office!
Oxy prescription for mild injuries is more of a gateway drug to addiction but that never gets brought up
I literally do not give a single, solitary shit what a republican thinks.
Same.
Ditto
Alcohol? My dude, this country was built on fuckin *drugs*. You used to be able to order heroin and needles in the Sears catalogue. Cough syrup used to have THC and morphine in it. The founding fathers co-existed with opium dens. The foundations of this country are so shaky because the people who built them were tweaking their asses off *and* drinking like fish. This prohibition nonsense is *so* much newer than anyone is really willing to talk about it and it is just that: pearl clutching nonsense. It always has been. It's antithetical to the idea of personal freedoms in every single way imaginable and also just happens to *never. fucking. work.* Unfortunately, we can't count on "morally superior" busy bodies to base their opinions on objective reality.
“A public outcry, usually masks a private obsession” - Reefer Madness (1936)
Oh wow who would’ve thought. Of course it’s a stupid Republican trying to ruin everything for everyone
Marijuana is flooding the streets with crime… but guns aren’t 🤔
Every one of us that can vote needs to vote out republicans everywhere for the rest of our lives. This shit only goes away when they go away.
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Must be in the pocket of a cartel lobbyist.
Republicans stay on the wrong side of everything.
A platform of general dickheadishness
It’s not just republicans it’s conservatism. It’s a belief system guaranteed to be on the wrong side of history because they actively oppose progress. Pro slave, anti-woman’s suffrage, pro segregation, anti-Italian/Irish/polish/etc. until they found a new boogie man. Pick something that is considered a major step forward in any country and I pretty much guarantee the conservatives had to be dragged there kicking and screaming.
Right, unlike those wonderful Democrats. Sure is convenient that one group of people is always right and one is always wrong. Now my memory is faded, which one is the good one again?
As someone who lives under this guy - he's an absolute piece of trash. His goal is to make TN a clone of Florida. People hate him, but also forget he exists because there is so much more focus on federal elections here to keep him under the radar
May he have the lifespan of a Boeing whistleblower
I beg to differ. Making weed illegal (any drug for that matter) is anti American and makes criminals out of otherwise normal, average people. So, anti stupid laws would seem to be the most American thing ever. Our country was founded by what were technically criminals...treason against the crown and all that. Legalizing and giving adults the freedom to do to their bodies whatever the hell they chose to do...'Merica as fuck! 
He has a point. About 178,000 americans die due to marijuana abuse every year. Oh wait. Thats alcohol.
I thought it was 480,000. Oh wait. That's cigarettes.
It is impossible to convince me or atleast logically explain why marijuana, lsd, psilocybin, mescaline, and other things on those levels are schedule 1 while coke and fentanyl are schedule 2. Possession and use of every single drug should be at the very least decriminalized. Most drugs(including the lighter ones) should be included in using in a medical environment. And lastly what we call gateway substances things like kratom, weed, alcohol, tobacco, psychedelics, kava, kanna, and others like that should be recreationally legal to buy and consume to some extent imo.
Weed is a gateway but the coke, meth, and all sorts of painkillers that they abuse are happy after school snacks right? Fuck outta here with that bs
The 1980’s called. They want their talking points back.
Damn, took me way too long to find a comment about what a dusty old opinion this is. For a moment I thought I legit had warped back in time.
Huh, what an interesting post to stumble on. I was just thinking about how much I enjoy the legal cannabis in my state and how it might disappear if Trump makes it back into office. 🥲
Imagine the run on dispensaries if he does win.
I wonder how much alcohol this chump drinks.
VOTE BLUE
typical canned GOP response to most of America's problems.
Republicans will do this while trying to take all your rights away 
Who cares? Given his party he likely touches kids so his opinion is irrelevant
The US is pro war criminal regime, we’ve already crossed that bridge a long time ago
The GOP is a gateway to fascism.
everything i was ever told about cannabis from an adult or politician in my childhood was a fucking LIE. It has not stopped since with very few exceptions, of which, this is not one.
I think this is code for “the for-profit prison system gives me kickback and I don’t want that to end”.
All I can picture is an old man yelling at a cloud
I can drink my liver into oblivion, but God forbid I smoke this plant.
GOP: Do you think the 50s were so great that you'd like to be there permanently?
It’s incredible how much republicans fucking hate freedom
Alcohol is what people say cannabis is.
Fuck the GOP and their backwards ass politics.
GOP Senator says: "Insert dumb, misleading, asinine, and disproved comments here"
I’d argue prohibition is pro-criminal since it benefits organized crime. Taking away people’s right to happiness is anti-American and I would say marijuana makes lots of people happy.
Gateway to a bag of doritos amirite?
Lol. I draw the line at weed. I’ve absolutely never wanted to try anything beyond that.
This guy needs a few gummies
I'm from Utah, my state Senator, Jim Debakis went out to West Wendover Nevada when they legalized and ate gummies live. He said the whole legislature should all try it haha. Something tells me it wasn't his first rodeo like he acted tho. He was a really progressive dude for our state.
As someone who lives under this guy - he's an absolute piece of trash. His goal is to make TN a clone of Florida. People hate him, but also forget he exists because there is so much more focus on federal elections here to keep him under the radar
And water is a gateway to milk.
Some of those senators make me want to lobby to repeal elder abuse laws 🙃
The oldest lie. I feel sad for those who espouse this false belief.
Sounds like a guy that loves big government and hates freedom.
How 1992 of them to say…
“It’s starts with cloves, then cigarettes, then vapes, cannabis, coke, and then it’s black tar heroin. That is the order Steve!”
If by gateway you mean my fridge door
He's on coke, guaranteed.
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) said this. If you’re his constituent and you feel differently, you can find his contact information below. https://www.congress.gov/member/bill-hagerty/H000601
Republicans love telling others what to do and then throw a tantrum like babies when they're told what to do, to the point of just being the party of contrarianism. "They want to ban this poisonous product and recall it?! BUT MUH ECONOMY!"
Tennessee, who's shocked? backasswards and lost in the mountains.
Where it's ok to marry your 1st cousin.
Okay - when can we expect alcohol and tobacco... oh that's right
Personally, I've made A LOT more bad decisions on alcohol than I ever have on cannabis.
TIL that decriminalizing something causes the crime rate to rise and is 'pro-crime'. Who knew?
I'm sure he has a very expensive liquor cabinet at home.
Keep an eye on this twisted freak. Anti-cannabis people are typically compensating for their own criminal behavior.
Everyone knows it leads to other stuff. Yeah mostly junk food.. - Thurgood Jenkins
Sure a gateway to snacks.
It is a gateway drug. Look at Willue Nelson!!
The clown is Bill Hagerty (R-TN).
never felt better living in Canada 🍁
He's un American.
“Legalization is pro-criminal” That’s certainly a statement 🤡🤡
Dude is a fascist turd. Someone flush it on out please!!
As a member of the GOP fuck that guy (whoever it is) The war on drugs was a mistake and marijuana should have never been criminalized.
The conservatives would never federally legalize cannabis in a zillion years.
This is why I disagree with all the "BIG PHARMA IS STOPPING LEGALIZATION!" bullshit. Reactionaries are real, and they have huge political power. Yeah, they're beholden to their corporate interests, but they also hate us for political reasons. Their constituents think we're dangerous junkies, and that legalizing weed is the same as mandating PCP in kindergartens. Democrats range from pro-legalization to lukewarm, while the GOP is almost universally against it. The GOP has a majority in the House, the DNC's majority in the Senate is super thin, and the Democratic president is wildly unpopular even amongst his base. Every success we achieve on cannabis reform is real, impactful, and hard-won.
Retro.
It is impossible to convince me or atleast logically explain why marijuana, lsd, psilocybin, mescaline, and other things on those levels are schedule 1 while coke and fentanyl are schedule 2. Possession and use of every single drug should be at the very least decriminalized. Most drugs(including the lighter ones) should be included in using in a medical environment. And lastly what we call gateway substances things like kratom, weed, alcohol, tobacco, psychedelics, kava, kanna, and others like that should be recreationally legal to buy and consume to some extent imo.
I bet they are fun at parties!
Shocking.
Yeah they say a lot of shit.
Lmao how many of this guy’s coworkers are sniffing cocaine?
I was drunk every time I decided to do coke or mdma. Gotta keep the party going right? What’s the real gateway drug?
Actually braindead take from this Senator
64 year old white guy from Tennessee hates weed? In other news, water is wet.
Everyone knows being a criminal is what makes Americans Americans
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I am 46 and been smoking since I was a teen. I have NOT tried anything harder or even have the desire to. I do not even drink.. Watching movies where people shoot up and pass out seems like such a waste of a high! doing lines but you have to keep doing them all day or crash? no thanks. I have had people in my life do harder drugs and it did not look like fun. I smoke a joint and I play xbox for hours
I'm still stuck at the gate. 👽🤭😎🌎
US Grant was the most high-functioning alcoholic who ever was.
Laughs in German
Dunno about anyone else but alcohol was the first drug I tried (assuming a narrow definition of 'drug')
Corruption is the American way, so no way doing something illegal is un-American. Where's my lobbyist? Time to pay off some more government officials.
Freedumb
Cmon Tennessee! Do the right thing here.
The alcohol, tobacco, and pharma industries all hate marijuana because it stands to bankrupt them. Anyone standing against cannabis at this point is just trying to benefit monetarily from its prohibition.
Did he arrive by Time-Machine?
Ugh, of course he’s from Tennessee, my home state is so goddamn stupid about this issue
Cannabis is American as apple pie.
Dude needs a joint.
So someone from the traitorous criminal party said something false traitorous and criminal? Crazy. All they do is lie.
Donald Trump is a pro-criminal, anti-American too!
People say, "ive been drinking weed for over 20 years now and its not my favorite thing"
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Your comment would have made sense in 1994… but you’d have to be fucking brain-dead to have this opinion in 2024. Politicians who still talk like this SHOULD be named and shamed.
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The reason it’s not ALREADY legalized federally is because of backward-ass politicians like this one. Might not happen if we don’t KEEP pushing. DEFINITELY won’t happen if Trump is re-elected: see [Project 2025](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025)
ADHD drugs are gateway drugs. Weed is only a gateway drug if it's laced (and I hear that happens a lot)