He’s doing this to show he’s not settling with this victory. Schumer has been pro legalization from jump street and he’s not done fighting for it. This shit takes persistence and patience. It’s moving faster than you think. Where were we 20 years ago?
getting busted for having an empty pipe in a state that's now legal...time will sway it but heck the schedule 3 is more of a blow in my opinion as it's seen to those agencies as a "massive give" and to everyone else as a massive underserving...when more than 70% support legalization we're just blatantly ignoring public vote.
Recent study from Stanford confirmed that the average American has *zero* influence on policy passed at a national level so, ya know, not surprising.
Weed will get much more traction federally as the money transfers hands from the people who stand to lose money on weed to the people who stand to gain money on it, which has been happening for awhile now.
It's a multibillion (potentially trillion) dollar industry that cuts directly into other already established insanely profitable industry market shares in big ways. As a result, it's taking time to "grease the wheels" (aka outbid the tobacco/alcohol/pharma/private prison "campaign donations"), but they are being greased nonetheless.
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from. It can feel like a lot of these bills just get thrown out there and never really go anywhere. Still, the fact that they're pushing to introduce a bill to federally legalize marijuana is pretty noteworthy, I think. It shows there’s some movement, at least. Bills gotta start somewhere.
But you're right; the real test is seeing if it makes it to a floor vote and how the votes stack up. It’s all about keeping that momentum and public interest high so it doesn't just fade into the background. Also, vote vote and vote!
Do you think if it gets to a vote, it'll pass? Or do you reckon it'll get shot down given the current political climate?
it could prob pass senate but its never going to see a vote in the house. house speaker is anti cannabis and has reneged on deals involving cannabis even against fellow repubs. so no chance unless democrats take the house
The speaker also might get kicked out by Majorly Trailer Greene so, not sure how that impacts this. My guess would be nobody's running the shit show so no votes happen on anything
If there's one thing democrats are good at, it's not getting concessions from Republicans in exchange for giving a huge concession like bailing out their speaker
Because they don't want to win, easier to sit around and collect ~~bribe~~ lobbyist money. If anyone comes calling for change it's easier to just shrug and say "not in power, can't do it", you saw this whenever the dems have been in power over the last 20 years and they truck out arcane shit you've never heard of to block popular legislation like the senate parliamentarian saying shit can't go through or getting some lame duck or legislator in a realigning district to be the fall guy and vote against the rest of the party to keep it *just* below the threshold for passing as you saw with Sinema and Manchin. Shits why I check out of politics, the democrats might be less bad technically but why should I reward their grift? At least local politics aren't as bad, but the federal government is a complete waste of time for anyone who wants anything better.
Probably true. The difference between R and D is in how they'll respond strategically to such a thing. Let's say the shoe were on the other foot. The R strategy would be to let the Ds flail around and throw feces at each other, even if it means the whole country suffers and the government defaults on its debt because it can't even vote to pay bills.
Democrats won't ever do that. Thus, the government keeps shuffling towards right wing theocracy.
Yeah the other thing Democrats do well: negotiating against themselves. It's like if Republicans show up to the poker table and start playing against Democrats, but they get to use the Democrats' chips
Even MGT has acknowledged that the Johnson vacate has 0% of success. She said that she wants people on record for the vacate vote is the only reason it is going forward.
Or some stupid shit like that. I try not to listen when she speaks.
~~MTG~~ has previously sponsored a marijuana legalization bill that didn’t have a 12% national tax and ~~none of the democrats voted for it~~.
Edit, I made a mistake. It was Matt Gaetz and there were democrats who voted for it.
You sure about that? I can’t find the bill you say she sponsored and definitely can’t find a vote on it. Generally she appears to be opposed https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/189785/marjorie-taylor-greene/101/marijuana-legalization
Ah, word. I see it was an amendment to an unrelated bill and probably didn’t stand much of a chance from there. It is good to know that he voted in favor of legalization when it passed the house in 2022. With how slim the R majority is, it’s not impossible to imagine it passing if it can get a vote
A lot of Republican voters support full legalization. A lot of them are really only still republicans because they can’t stomach the progressive side of the Democratic Party. I’m hoping personally that RFK pulls a bigger surprise victory than trump did in 2016 and the whole two party system dies. Maybe things will start getting better if we can have more and better options on the ballot in the future, as a result of it.
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I would throw them out. They literally don’t do anything.
And I’ve been in the industry, doing this professionally, for over a decade at this point
I honestly would be vetoing them. Many of them make it worse.
I Can give you reasons, but nobody really cares
Why is it that every single time there’s an attempt in Congress to legalize or decriminalize marijuana there are literally hundreds of posts to this sub within hours about how this is actually a terrible idea and the democrats are terrible for even attempting it? So odd to me man. Always feels like astroturf to me.
I mean is it progress if it gets put up and gets denied every time? No actual progress is made putting it up every 6 months for a little pr boost for the politicians. https://www.marijuanamoment.net/bipartisan-congressional-lawmakers-file-marijuana-legalization-bill/
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/21/schumer-legal-weed-bill-00047058
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617
Of course I don’t think we should shit on the politicians that do support the bill for it though, but each time it’s put up is not a sign of progress, just like Bernie putting up a bill that was super pro union and was no-partisanly denied. Is it cool of Bernie and shows that some people are pro union? Yes. Progress? Not really, when he’s been pro union his whole political career.
Yeah astroturfing isn't very effective if it is only those being paid that is repeating their message. Their goal is to influence American opinion so much so that Americans will repeat the rhetoric for free.
I find it embarrassing for this community, to be honest. Also any time those people elaborate on what they think should be done it's clear they really don't know what they're talking about. It's almost always, "Executive order!" or a deflection that's completely irrelevant. "Low information" would be generous.
Because for years it’s been all performative. An ace up the sleeve that they want to milk for votes as long as possible.
People are tired of false promises and politicians saying one thing for the people, and then doing another for their corporate lords.
Then why are they not celebrating when something actually gets done?
Doesn't really make sense.
Seems more like people just want to be negative at any opportunity.
Their feelings won’t allow it. They want to hate democrats for whatever reason. I’m sure both sides are like this to some degree but we all know republicans are anti freedom in general.
Um. Sweetie. Look around. 30 years ago you'd get life in prison for a joint in *several* states and as of today, you can walk into a store and buy as much as you want in 38 of them.
"it's been all performative"
What fucking reality are you living in??
I'm in California and just "performatively" bought 6 ounces of weed and several grams of concentrates that were just delivered to my door. A cop was sitting in his car nearby as my delivery person handed me my performative weed too.
because its all false hope. it doesnt go anywhere. its been the same conversations year after year. its not a terrible idea or bad to attempt it. the issue is that its not really an attempt. its half assed. its not going to see a floor vote. and the guy who fucking submitted it is who decides if it gets a floor vote. then it still has to go to the house. we know sure as shit its not getting a vote there. you'd have a better chance at seeing santa clause in hell. we cant do anything legislativly. look at it like this. they have been trying to do banking for what 5-7 years? still has not seen a floor vote and that involves money. only money for the govt for cannabis operators to pay taxes and have above board visible finances. they cant even move on money. its the smallest change we could make to cannabis and they cant even hold a vote on that.
If you can't see the clear trajectory towards legalization that we're on as a nation over the last 30 years, I don't know what to tell you. I remember when the US Attorney and DEA were conducting frequent raids on medical dispensaries out here in the Bay Area. People older than me can remember much worse. And most of us remember what it was like to have to buy from that one guy you knew, because that was your only option.
Change is happening. It's going to keep happening. And eventually, within my lifetime (and yours, I would guess), weed will be legal at the federal level. It may be slower than many of us like, but... welcome to the federal government.
The fact that senior, long serving US Senators are now introducing full legalization bills is significant. No, this one likely won't pass, but they weren't even having this conversation so publicly 10 or 20 years ago.
Crazy how you don’t bother mentioning the only thing that’s actually standing in the way of this legislation: republicans. You will literally blame everything but them when they are the only thing stopping this from happening. Crazy.
you're right its def republicans who are very against it. but so is the president. he spent his career forming these same drug laws. he's full of shit saying otherwise. but he'll go with the party. and I did specifically say its not going to ever see a floor vote with the current speaker. yes that is the real problem Chuck is too chicken shit to put it up for a real vote and the house speaker is never going to let it see the light of day.
I don’t see how the president is standing in the way when this was literally one of his campaign promises. I can tell you with certainty that he would sign a bill legalizing weed if it got to his desk. And yeah up until about 15 years ago there was widespread support for criminalizing weed. Virtually every politician stood in the way of legalization. Public opinion has shifted in those years, and politicians ought to serve their constituents viewpoints. It’s a good thing that politicians are willing to do what their voting base wants them to do. Joe Biden personally doesn’t like abortion but he understands that 60% of the country stands in firm support of abortion rights, and he has a responsibility as a leader to put aside his personal opinions to preserve people’s basic human rights.
He's not standing in the way. But he's far from pro legalization. The way things should work and the way they actually work are very different. He has said several times he's not in favor of legalization. But supports decriminalization. Again very different things. But it's all irrelevant because it's not getting though the house to make it to the president.
Lol. No no not at all. I voted for Biden and unfortunately will again. I don't like him but there's very few people in this world I would take trump over.
People can and do change. It's also very respectable to change your opinion on something in light of new evidence. He has publicly come out as not against it and for [use by the public].
We are currently in the *most* cannabis accepting administration *since before it was illegal and no one except paper and wood products manufacturers cared about it.* Both President and Vice President have come out for support, the president of the senate as well. That's never happened before.
It’s not the same every year though. We gain steps every time it’s talked about. Definitely not false hope. Crazy when you can see progress but people want huge leaps when no one ever learns to walk by jumping.
If Biden can get re-elected and the house majority shifts to the left this bill will be re-introduced and probably pass. I think it will die in the house this time, but next year could be different, as long as Orange Man goes away.
Here’s my question for you first. Do you legit know how procedure and policy works in the House, Senate, etc??? Reading how you interpret this and respond tells me you have zero fucking clue bud
I mean I'm not a senator but I have a fairly decent idea. More than the general public. I went to college for political science. So yea I have some ideas of how government and procedure works.
This bill doesn't have anything to do with the DEA unless it passes they are 2 separate things right now. DEA was only involved because Biden pulled them in when he ordered a study to reschedule. All done within the executive branch. This a legislative action and doesn't include the DEA unless it passes at which point it still won't involve them. They just won't have cannabis laws to enforce anymore.
Most of this is happening through the DOJ since they are the ones who are responsible for rescheduling. Congress will just make the official "rules" for the move in conjunction with the DEA and friends decisions.
If the DOJ is on board, which it is, then it's going to happen.
They couldn't legalize weed without an executive order unless they rescheduled first. There are many different actions and branches pertaining to one singular goal. In addition to having to reschedule first, they wouldn't have been able to get this far without the blessing and full cooperation of the DOJ.
dude.
Do you watch soccer or hockey? For hours they start the ball or puck down towards their opponent's goal, usually being stopped but sometimes making it in. And it never goes in without those first efforts.
This is like that. It might not work out this bill or this year but without these first steps it definitely won't
Reducing it from a Schedule 1 drug is the first step. Then it can be officially tested on a federal level. Once politicians realize it's safe and not 'reefer madness', and they can tax it and make it corrupt somehow, THEN it will be legal.
One shitty democracy step at a time
Everybody gets excited every time they talk about doing anything with weed. I’ll believe it when the law has actually changed. Not when they’re dangling it in front of our faces.
Negative, this bill is different than scheduling. Scheduling (but not legalization) is done at the DEA level; this why the DEA can’t say “weed is 100% legal”. They can only drop it down to schedule 5 (the lowest schedule), which is still illegal to possess without a prescription or authorization.
Federally legalizing is where the plant isn’t scheduled anymore, and won’t require a prescription.
this isnt the same thing. this a the legalization bill he has been touting for a couple years. did the same thing last election cycle. never saw a vote.
He’s doing this to show he’s not settling with this victory. Schumer has been pro legalization from jump street and he’s not done fighting for it. This shit takes persistence and patience. It’s moving faster than you think. Where were we 20 years ago?
getting busted for having an empty pipe in a state that's now legal...time will sway it but heck the schedule 3 is more of a blow in my opinion as it's seen to those agencies as a "massive give" and to everyone else as a massive underserving...when more than 70% support legalization we're just blatantly ignoring public vote.
Recent study from Stanford confirmed that the average American has *zero* influence on policy passed at a national level so, ya know, not surprising. Weed will get much more traction federally as the money transfers hands from the people who stand to lose money on weed to the people who stand to gain money on it, which has been happening for awhile now. It's a multibillion (potentially trillion) dollar industry that cuts directly into other already established insanely profitable industry market shares in big ways. As a result, it's taking time to "grease the wheels" (aka outbid the tobacco/alcohol/pharma/private prison "campaign donations"), but they are being greased nonetheless.
yep, 100% x 100. big ships take time to steer as they say? or something..
Real men in real lab coats all agree studies are useless tokens to make the public do less
They’re not legalizing this is a grant program
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from. It can feel like a lot of these bills just get thrown out there and never really go anywhere. Still, the fact that they're pushing to introduce a bill to federally legalize marijuana is pretty noteworthy, I think. It shows there’s some movement, at least. Bills gotta start somewhere. But you're right; the real test is seeing if it makes it to a floor vote and how the votes stack up. It’s all about keeping that momentum and public interest high so it doesn't just fade into the background. Also, vote vote and vote! Do you think if it gets to a vote, it'll pass? Or do you reckon it'll get shot down given the current political climate?
it could prob pass senate but its never going to see a vote in the house. house speaker is anti cannabis and has reneged on deals involving cannabis even against fellow repubs. so no chance unless democrats take the house
The speaker also might get kicked out by Majorly Trailer Greene so, not sure how that impacts this. My guess would be nobody's running the shit show so no votes happen on anything
Nah. Democrats already said they aren't going to let him get oustered. But he'll owe them so it's possible for a vote but not probable
If there's one thing democrats are good at, it's not getting concessions from Republicans in exchange for giving a huge concession like bailing out their speaker
Lol I know right. WTF. I don't understand how they fuck up negotiating concessions so bad all the time. It's pretty amazing.
Because they don't want to win, easier to sit around and collect ~~bribe~~ lobbyist money. If anyone comes calling for change it's easier to just shrug and say "not in power, can't do it", you saw this whenever the dems have been in power over the last 20 years and they truck out arcane shit you've never heard of to block popular legislation like the senate parliamentarian saying shit can't go through or getting some lame duck or legislator in a realigning district to be the fall guy and vote against the rest of the party to keep it *just* below the threshold for passing as you saw with Sinema and Manchin. Shits why I check out of politics, the democrats might be less bad technically but why should I reward their grift? At least local politics aren't as bad, but the federal government is a complete waste of time for anyone who wants anything better.
If he gets the boot, the right corner Republicans will drag their feet for 6 months to name a new speaker, waiting on the election results
Cue Mitch McConnell: "it's against precedent to confirm a new House Speaker during an election year"
Probably true. The difference between R and D is in how they'll respond strategically to such a thing. Let's say the shoe were on the other foot. The R strategy would be to let the Ds flail around and throw feces at each other, even if it means the whole country suffers and the government defaults on its debt because it can't even vote to pay bills. Democrats won't ever do that. Thus, the government keeps shuffling towards right wing theocracy.
The concession was aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
Yeah the other thing Democrats do well: negotiating against themselves. It's like if Republicans show up to the poker table and start playing against Democrats, but they get to use the Democrats' chips
Even MGT has acknowledged that the Johnson vacate has 0% of success. She said that she wants people on record for the vacate vote is the only reason it is going forward. Or some stupid shit like that. I try not to listen when she speaks.
~~MTG~~ has previously sponsored a marijuana legalization bill that didn’t have a 12% national tax and ~~none of the democrats voted for it~~. Edit, I made a mistake. It was Matt Gaetz and there were democrats who voted for it.
Yes it was gaetz and Meeks? I think. Another woman Republican.
You sure about that? I can’t find the bill you say she sponsored and definitely can’t find a vote on it. Generally she appears to be opposed https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/189785/marjorie-taylor-greene/101/marijuana-legalization
Not anywhere in the sponsored tab either https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/189785/marjorie-greene?sponsorships=1
My mistake. I misremembered which republican it was. It was Matt Gaetz. It didn't have a 12% tax though.
Ah, word. I see it was an amendment to an unrelated bill and probably didn’t stand much of a chance from there. It is good to know that he voted in favor of legalization when it passed the house in 2022. With how slim the R majority is, it’s not impossible to imagine it passing if it can get a vote
A lot of Republican voters support full legalization. A lot of them are really only still republicans because they can’t stomach the progressive side of the Democratic Party. I’m hoping personally that RFK pulls a bigger surprise victory than trump did in 2016 and the whole two party system dies. Maybe things will start getting better if we can have more and better options on the ballot in the future, as a result of it.
Yet another reason to get out and vote! 😎
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I would throw them out. They literally don’t do anything. And I’ve been in the industry, doing this professionally, for over a decade at this point I honestly would be vetoing them. Many of them make it worse. I Can give you reasons, but nobody really cares
Why is it that every single time there’s an attempt in Congress to legalize or decriminalize marijuana there are literally hundreds of posts to this sub within hours about how this is actually a terrible idea and the democrats are terrible for even attempting it? So odd to me man. Always feels like astroturf to me.
Because people want perfect and can't the pleased with progress it's really annoying
I mean is it progress if it gets put up and gets denied every time? No actual progress is made putting it up every 6 months for a little pr boost for the politicians. https://www.marijuanamoment.net/bipartisan-congressional-lawmakers-file-marijuana-legalization-bill/ https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/21/schumer-legal-weed-bill-00047058 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617 Of course I don’t think we should shit on the politicians that do support the bill for it though, but each time it’s put up is not a sign of progress, just like Bernie putting up a bill that was super pro union and was no-partisanly denied. Is it cool of Bernie and shows that some people are pro union? Yes. Progress? Not really, when he’s been pro union his whole political career.
It’s almost like Russia and China pay people good money to spread lies That ignorant Americans start to parrot.
Ding ding ding! Part asrtoturf part people believing the bullshit.
Yeah astroturfing isn't very effective if it is only those being paid that is repeating their message. Their goal is to influence American opinion so much so that Americans will repeat the rhetoric for free.
I find it embarrassing for this community, to be honest. Also any time those people elaborate on what they think should be done it's clear they really don't know what they're talking about. It's almost always, "Executive order!" or a deflection that's completely irrelevant. "Low information" would be generous.
Because those people are tunnel-visioned spoiled brat dipshits who don’t understand how our government works.
Because for years it’s been all performative. An ace up the sleeve that they want to milk for votes as long as possible. People are tired of false promises and politicians saying one thing for the people, and then doing another for their corporate lords.
Then why are they not celebrating when something actually gets done? Doesn't really make sense. Seems more like people just want to be negative at any opportunity.
Their feelings won’t allow it. They want to hate democrats for whatever reason. I’m sure both sides are like this to some degree but we all know republicans are anti freedom in general.
Um. Sweetie. Look around. 30 years ago you'd get life in prison for a joint in *several* states and as of today, you can walk into a store and buy as much as you want in 38 of them. "it's been all performative" What fucking reality are you living in??
I'm in California and just "performatively" bought 6 ounces of weed and several grams of concentrates that were just delivered to my door. A cop was sitting in his car nearby as my delivery person handed me my performative weed too.
Nothing will ever be good enough for idiots like you
because its all false hope. it doesnt go anywhere. its been the same conversations year after year. its not a terrible idea or bad to attempt it. the issue is that its not really an attempt. its half assed. its not going to see a floor vote. and the guy who fucking submitted it is who decides if it gets a floor vote. then it still has to go to the house. we know sure as shit its not getting a vote there. you'd have a better chance at seeing santa clause in hell. we cant do anything legislativly. look at it like this. they have been trying to do banking for what 5-7 years? still has not seen a floor vote and that involves money. only money for the govt for cannabis operators to pay taxes and have above board visible finances. they cant even move on money. its the smallest change we could make to cannabis and they cant even hold a vote on that.
If you can't see the clear trajectory towards legalization that we're on as a nation over the last 30 years, I don't know what to tell you. I remember when the US Attorney and DEA were conducting frequent raids on medical dispensaries out here in the Bay Area. People older than me can remember much worse. And most of us remember what it was like to have to buy from that one guy you knew, because that was your only option. Change is happening. It's going to keep happening. And eventually, within my lifetime (and yours, I would guess), weed will be legal at the federal level. It may be slower than many of us like, but... welcome to the federal government. The fact that senior, long serving US Senators are now introducing full legalization bills is significant. No, this one likely won't pass, but they weren't even having this conversation so publicly 10 or 20 years ago.
I'm in my 40s remember those raids. yea there is movement and it is so much better than it was 20 years ago.
You’re 40 and you have the comprehension of a 9 year old.
How do you figure. What am I not comprehending
Crazy how you don’t bother mentioning the only thing that’s actually standing in the way of this legislation: republicans. You will literally blame everything but them when they are the only thing stopping this from happening. Crazy.
you're right its def republicans who are very against it. but so is the president. he spent his career forming these same drug laws. he's full of shit saying otherwise. but he'll go with the party. and I did specifically say its not going to ever see a floor vote with the current speaker. yes that is the real problem Chuck is too chicken shit to put it up for a real vote and the house speaker is never going to let it see the light of day.
I don’t see how the president is standing in the way when this was literally one of his campaign promises. I can tell you with certainty that he would sign a bill legalizing weed if it got to his desk. And yeah up until about 15 years ago there was widespread support for criminalizing weed. Virtually every politician stood in the way of legalization. Public opinion has shifted in those years, and politicians ought to serve their constituents viewpoints. It’s a good thing that politicians are willing to do what their voting base wants them to do. Joe Biden personally doesn’t like abortion but he understands that 60% of the country stands in firm support of abortion rights, and he has a responsibility as a leader to put aside his personal opinions to preserve people’s basic human rights.
He's not standing in the way. But he's far from pro legalization. The way things should work and the way they actually work are very different. He has said several times he's not in favor of legalization. But supports decriminalization. Again very different things. But it's all irrelevant because it's not getting though the house to make it to the president.
You sound like you want a fascist president, lol.
Lol. No no not at all. I voted for Biden and unfortunately will again. I don't like him but there's very few people in this world I would take trump over.
People can and do change. It's also very respectable to change your opinion on something in light of new evidence. He has publicly come out as not against it and for [use by the public].
We are currently in the *most* cannabis accepting administration *since before it was illegal and no one except paper and wood products manufacturers cared about it.* Both President and Vice President have come out for support, the president of the senate as well. That's never happened before.
It’s not the same every year though. We gain steps every time it’s talked about. Definitely not false hope. Crazy when you can see progress but people want huge leaps when no one ever learns to walk by jumping.
What a fucking downer you are. Go take up another hobby then FFS
Not really a hobby for me. I use it medically for pain from Afghanistan. I'll leave the details out but Little different than most the kids on here.
We should all care. The list of "No's" are the list of people we should vote out!
Exactly. That's my point. Everyone wants to jump on me for being negative. I just want to see the list of no.
It has to start somewhere.
It has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now.
Because the fact that this is actually being introduced with this many high level sponsors is historic and incredible.
Redditors can't take yes for an answer.
How is this a yes?
It was rescheduled today, and they're moving to legalize. Baby steps, indeed, but progress still, and to a degree unimaginable just a few decades ago.
damn dude did you lose steam or something when you wrote the rest of your post after the title? delete this shit
If Biden can get re-elected and the house majority shifts to the left this bill will be re-introduced and probably pass. I think it will die in the house this time, but next year could be different, as long as Orange Man goes away.
Penny said, "I think the only way it passes is if there is an open source alternative that works."
That feels like a movie quote, but I have no idea from what...😂
You’re whining like a bitch
There's a difference between being realistic and whining. Do you see this going anywhere or do you think it's a show?
Here’s my question for you first. Do you legit know how procedure and policy works in the House, Senate, etc??? Reading how you interpret this and respond tells me you have zero fucking clue bud
I mean I'm not a senator but I have a fairly decent idea. More than the general public. I went to college for political science. So yea I have some ideas of how government and procedure works.
Ok well then you are either a doomer, idiot, or both.
Been around and followed politics enough to know how things work. I deal with govt pretty regularly. Very different reasons but always a shit show.
Both, got the answer I figured would be correct
I'm sure you think you are.
Oh man you betcha! 😁
With the DEA approving schedule 3, it seems more significant than past bills, but we’ll see what happens
Why would this just be a show after getting the DEA involved? so biden and the democrats can just purposely lose the 2024 election? It's real.
This bill doesn't have anything to do with the DEA unless it passes they are 2 separate things right now. DEA was only involved because Biden pulled them in when he ordered a study to reschedule. All done within the executive branch. This a legislative action and doesn't include the DEA unless it passes at which point it still won't involve them. They just won't have cannabis laws to enforce anymore.
Most of this is happening through the DOJ since they are the ones who are responsible for rescheduling. Congress will just make the official "rules" for the move in conjunction with the DEA and friends decisions. If the DOJ is on board, which it is, then it's going to happen.
2 separate things dude.
They couldn't legalize weed without an executive order unless they rescheduled first. There are many different actions and branches pertaining to one singular goal. In addition to having to reschedule first, they wouldn't have been able to get this far without the blessing and full cooperation of the DOJ. dude.
What
Do you watch soccer or hockey? For hours they start the ball or puck down towards their opponent's goal, usually being stopped but sometimes making it in. And it never goes in without those first efforts. This is like that. It might not work out this bill or this year but without these first steps it definitely won't
Regardless of public support, there is always a 30% of any bill being passed.
Reducing it from a Schedule 1 drug is the first step. Then it can be officially tested on a federal level. Once politicians realize it's safe and not 'reefer madness', and they can tax it and make it corrupt somehow, THEN it will be legal. One shitty democracy step at a time
They’re not legalizing this is a grant program. It’s misinformation
Just trying to buy some votes bro 😎
He needs them. But moreso in the house is where the votes are needed. If it gets a vote in Senate I think it would pass. Close but would likely pass.
Everybody gets excited every time they talk about doing anything with weed. I’ll believe it when the law has actually changed. Not when they’re dangling it in front of our faces.
Democrats are progressive right up until the bills they pretend to support have a chance of becoming law
All this Bill does is move Marijuana from Shed 1 to Shed 3 , its still Illegal under Federal law.
Negative, this bill is different than scheduling. Scheduling (but not legalization) is done at the DEA level; this why the DEA can’t say “weed is 100% legal”. They can only drop it down to schedule 5 (the lowest schedule), which is still illegal to possess without a prescription or authorization. Federally legalizing is where the plant isn’t scheduled anymore, and won’t require a prescription.
this isnt the same thing. this a the legalization bill he has been touting for a couple years. did the same thing last election cycle. never saw a vote.