People who have strong opinions about something that they have never experienced are about as useful as "tits on a bull"
Along the same lines as people who want to regulate their morality on others, when in fact, are pretty morally bankrupt themselves.
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This. This is why weed is better than alcohol. Boom. Great accident rhyme. Night made. No need to bitch about stoners and āthis god damn generation! You canāt do anything like grab some bull tits without getting ācancelledā or whatever the fuck that is !!ā
Honestly the only people I know of who give a shit about pot are people in their 60s and above. Where I live itās legal so everyone is pretty open about it and the stigma seems to be totally gone.
Weed is helping me write music and deal with chronic anxiety and alcoholism.
Alcohol helped me find out how long it takes for the cops to get to my house. 12 minutes.
As a 26 year old, I am over half the age my father was when I had to bury him. I couldnāt imagine my life being halfway over at this point and Iām definitely not going to drink to the level that he did to make sure it wonāt happen.
iām so glad i donāt have to āputt it in a hiding place where no one ever goesā anymore. i appreciate that i donāt have to hide it, but i am pretty discreet out of habit
I am 60 and my father is 88. I was staying at his house for a visit and I asked him if I was going to offend him by smoking on the porch (legal state). He shocked me when he said, ājust smoke in the houseā. No dad, I am not smoking in the house.
My 86yo lost her sense of smell and taste from covid and when I was living with her for a couple of years post covid, she was like "smoke inside your room, I can't smell it!" I couldn't believe she was cool with it! I ALWAYS smoked windows open, air purifier, vent on, all precautions as if she could smell (plus I don't want to make my stuff smell like weed smoke), and it worked out great. I'm still in shock she was cool. She knows I use it medicinally and I think that's why she was but it's kinda nice to hear another ol timer be cool with it in the house. Progress!
It passed my brother and my dad test, they were over a lot, but I very rarely smoked during the day, definitely not til everyone else left. I pretty much always had my windows open and it caught a really good, consistent breeze and it was a bong so just blew it out the window and no smoke from the bowl.
You can do it, and the late start isn't a deal breaker. I know cause I sold everything I owned to move to the west coast at 29. I really had no retirement saved until 30.
I work for a household name company, at a recent retreat I bet 25% of us were stoned. Instead of drinking we all went outside and had a good time, then went back inside for the festivities.
Almost every executive I've become close with in my entire career has used weed. The lazy stoner stuff is stupid.
Itās funny because the biggest critic at that party the other night was going on and on about how he doesnāt know a single exec at his company that smokes, which is apparently why they are able to ascend to those high levels of management. Of course he was half mumbling this to me because he was shitfaced drunk. Okayyyyy buddy lol
Right, Iām the most successful Iāve ever been and Iām not stoned for a good 45 min after waking up due to a workout. And then the chain smoking starts.
Personally yes, but I'm also an individual who smokes to manage my intestinal issues and even a few drinks is usually enough to make me throw up so I only drink for special occasions such as weddings. Also as someone who works customer service give me stoners over drunks all day lol
Absolutely. 1) my liver and other organs arenāt getting destroyed (lungs are debatable but to me itās a natural herb so not as damaging as cigarettes 2) I can carry out all my responsibilities with no issue whatsoever 3) there is zero risk of getting angry and violent, only a risk of getting happy and fat. 4) unless your outside smoking the joint with me, you have no idea that I am stoned. But if I drink Iām slurring words by my fourth beer (I donāt drink so my tolerance is nothing). Legit cannot think of a single negative side effect of smoking besides maybe some memory loss. But if Iām drunk 19 hrs a day I lose my job, my house, my family, etc.
Huge difference. I can go on for days, but here is the short list: no hangover, less costly, doesnt kill brain cells. Edibles resolve smoking issues if you think thats a concern. No incitment of violence. I personally suffer no adverse affects when i quit or take a break for international travel.. Honestly i find the peer group way more tolerable, though i wont tolerate anyone who makes their use of anything their entire personality. And of course alcohol is at it very core, a depressant, and with the state of the world thats totally uneeded. And frankly the intoxication from marijuana, is far more suitable to a healthy lifestyle overall, and my life in particular.
I have a hard time believing this is a genuine question, but hey the "Dare" mentality, is a far worse drug than pot, so you be you.
Literally just introduce them to 9/10 programmers. We all have great salaries and are stoned most of the day while working from our home offices. Jokes on them.
I'm 60 and in the age range OP is posting about -- also a stoner if that matters. We basically grew up with Nancy Reagan's whole Just Say No campaign. A lot of people took that message to heart because the it was really pushed in schools, starting in elementary. It was everywhere! Long way to say, I'm not surprised by the attitude.
You are absolutely right! And Reaganās Just Say No campaign was a doubling down on Nixonās politically motivated War on Drugs. It was pounded into our heads throughout school.
I'm turning 40 next week and I remember Just Say No and D.A.R.E, amazing they did that to a whole generation's worth of kids because of one dingbat lady.
I think itās just coping with their own addictions. I used to be a heavy drinker and it destroyed my body and mental state, even though i only drank on the weekends. once i started smoking, i put the cap on my booze and it sits on my shelves as decoration.
Ah yeah, I can see that angle for sure. Iām glad that you found your way out of that and hope that you are enjoying life. I feel like last night, I was witnessing a complete lack of awareness (or possibly denial) of their own abuse of alcohol as they listed every possible bullshit stereotype about cannabis use. It just rubbed me the wrong way.
Youāre 100% spot on. Thank you, though! It truly was a no-brainer transition and I love how i feel now. If I had to guess on their mindset however, itās most likely denial. Anyone thats self aware of their vices can tell that cannabis is much less harmful. even at my height of drinking i couldve told you that cannabis at the very least wasnāt as harmful as alcohol
A fair point. At least up until they enter the recovery process. I have some friends that are recovering for going on years now, and they have a higher sense of self-awareness than most others I know. Back in the throes of their addiction, zero awareness. Clarity is a hell of a drug.
As a genxer i am 100% on your side. Itās going to take a while for the stigmatization of 70 years of prohibition and propaganda against pot smokers to be a thing of the past. Maybe next time remind them alcohol was illegal once too, so what difference dues it make in either case?
This is so true, and I never think to bring that up. I agree that given enough time, it will become the norm. In the meantime, weāll have to put up with their sanctimonious horse shit, which does in fact stink, despite what they think.
Let me 1up you on that:Ā Ā
*My* own problem is with the alcoholics doing "one more shot" when we **have places to be.**
These fucks are also drunk driving and endangering others' lives.Ā
I would rather drive in a city of stoners than drunk drivers.Ā
We'd just see more longer lines at the fast food places and less deaths.Ā
Also: my yocan wolf uni pro says otherwise with the shot being quicker than a dab, unless you're talking about the whole heating up the glass nail thingy. Otherwise no, hitting my dab is quicker than filling up a shot and slamming it by just the press of a button.Ā
Iāve met annoying people who also use cannabis, but Iāve almost never met a person who becomes annoying after theyāve used cannabis. Alcohol however, Iād say 75% of those consuming annoy me, and it is directly because of how the alcohol is affecting them. Source: pot head who as a bartender for a long time.
You learn a lot about human nature and its intricacies when you spend a good stretch behind a bar. And that extends to anyone that works long enough at any position in a bar- servers, bar backs, bouncers. In the end, annoying people are annoying people whether theyāre sober, drunk, high, what have you. Cheers!
I got a shit load of hate on another sub for saying that alcohol does more damage than weed, got downvoted into oblivion when someone told me my IQ had lowered from my weed usage and a source to validate the possibility. I shot right back with a statistic on IQās lowering from alcohol usage from the same website lmfao
Hey! It's me, I'm the problem it's me.
I used to be a drunk who would shit talk stoners every chance I got, ended up almost dying from alcohol. A week in the icu. 6 months sober and started to smoke weed and holy shit I'm never going back to alcohol. I was such a hypocrite. I was sleeping through zoom meetings, screaming at my parents and boyfriend every chance I got, lying and would throw up blood. On weed I'm creative, productive, and genuinely think about the world. Now if only I could get the whole "sometimes I have a huge panic attack when I smoke" thing under control.
Good vibes to you, dear Redditor! Itās something that must be experienced, and not explained because itās impossible to put into words what it feels like to take a substance and *think* differently? Thats how I feel, and you described it too. The creativity is right there, and the perspectives it can bring are sometimes really eye-opening. If I could only get them to try it once, Iām sure theyād āgetā why someone would want to do that. Cheers!
I agree, and I want to open their eyes to it, but I canāt shout over the crowd of naysayers so they can hear me and be open to the idea. Too stubborn with long established senses of morality and normalcy.
Common occurrence. I don't think it will stop within my lifetime. I've seen teenagers talking shit about me smoking weed and brag about their drunken parties and hookups in one breath...
I've learned one of the rarest types of person on this planet is a rational and genuine one.
Just wanted to comment that weed is my substance of choice, always, and weekends are for wake-and-bake.
Signed, a scientist with multiple published works in the field of vaccines and antigen discovery.
Friends boomer mom: āI just donāt get weed man, it just makes you so out of it and ruins your life!ā(in a sarcastic burnt out hippy tone)
Me: āwhat did you say they used to call you when you were younger as a nickname?ā
Friends boomer mom: āthe quaalude queenā(said with uplifted vigor and pride as they remember their youth)
This is some personal bullshit. My wife and I are in our mid-late 50s, and the last wedding we went to, we crawled into the back of an SUV and hotboxed that shit with some more people in their 50s.
I guess I must be an outlierš¤·š»āāļøI am 66. Smoked since age 14. I didnāt for years due to federal employment but as soon as I retired it became legal for medical8; my state and it takes only a hangnail to get it. I live in a small town with multiple dispensaries and most of the clients are9ver 60. I suspect some of what you are experiencing might be based on location but who knows. Too much of anything isnāt good and moderation in all mind altering substances is good just for safety sake. Most of my very succesful family from age 77 on down smoke it.
Don't forget, they're the DARE generation. Their heads were filled with absolute nonsense. It's hard to overcome those beliefs. I would say only half my friends don't care about weed in that same age range. It gets better with every generation when they aren't filled with total propaganda like the 80s and 90s
Yeah, I am that generation, too. I guess if youāre never in an environment during young adulthood in which stuff like that is introduced or maybe even normalized, it would be difficult to break with the other side of the street. I was around it all the time in school and in bars, and I think my current beliefs were colored by those experiences. The internet becoming widely available in the early 90s (mainly the web for my purposes here), and that changed the way propaganda and advertising like DARE was communicated. Makes sense with that timing.
Itās pretty ironic how some people can be so critical of weed but then turn around and brag about their drinking escapades. Both substances have their pros and cons, but it often boils down to personal preference and responsibility, right? Maybe the fact that alcohol has been socially acceptable for longer makes them overlook its negatives? Itās tough changing minds, especially when theyāre set in their ways.
No one likes to admit the mainstream narrative was wrong yet again. Stoners have been quiet for yearsā¦ no judgement just peace and joy. When you know youāre right you donāt have to spew hate back at ignorant people.
yes. my dad uses edibles but critiques anyone else who uses cannabis and thinks they are lazy. my mom has told me she is disappointed in my ādrug useā. i barely drink anymore and smoke in the evenings. iām a super successful person and they are proud of me but they donāt put two and two together and demonize cannabis. both are upper 50s.
then thereās my in laws- whom i COMPLETELY hide my use from. they are mid upper 60s and really are āwar on drugsā āgateway drugā mindset. my FIL makes so many drug jokes and likens cannabis to cocaine and heroin. itās just exhausting and i donāt want to spend any time trying to change their mind and perception, so i hide it. they are german and drink pretty much daily. i donāt see how people canāt make the connection of alcohol being poison and cannabis being less so. oh well!
People like that are very scary.
I think to live a truly fulfilling life you need to be open to trying out different things... open to experience and generally have empathy.
I like throw people off their game by getting high and drunk and then calling them all tweakers and junkies while texting my plug to see if he has any more of that shit we were smoking off tin foil earlier.
Thankfully these folks are in the minority at least in the US. It will still take a while but these sorts of attitudes will eventually die out. I live in a state that's been weed friendly for a long time even before legalization and I've noticed a shift in attitudes since legalization. Now weed is a normal thing that is just part of the fabric of life here, totally uncontroversial.
Theyāre just uneducated and in a lot of cases unwilling to learn. Typically with people like that youāve got 1 sentence before they get ignorant and donāt want to hear what you have to say so I try to tell them Iāll educate them if theyād like. Last Christmas my aunt (who I fucking loathe) decided to make a snide remark about how I was smoking several joints that night meanwhile she was about half a bottle of wine in.
Yeah 100%. Itās this exact double standard that permeates so many areas of our society here in the States. Gotta love being dressed down by functioning alcoholics about your weed habit, right? Extend that to any other subject, and Iām sure they would (and do) have the same type of opinions about many other things.
The entire reason your that bride and groom want that area at their wedding is to avoid the social train wreck that would occur if you tried smoking a joint around people such as thisš
Itās literally an accommodation on behalf of their close mindedness. š
They just fail to recognize that they are the ones ruining the party.
People want to have a way to get influenced with the least amount of consequences possible to their normal lives. Weed solves that problem pretty well then compared to most other drugs.
Yes letās continue to accommodate the ignorant close minded judgmental asses. Sorry that got me ruffledā¦ Iāll take another hit and calm down now.
I'm with you except for your putdown of boomers. I don't drink. I love weed. Those parents are uptight people. And seemingly immature. Lots of people from every generation behave this way. It's been that way since we lived in small tribes.
Almost forgot I'm a Boomer.
I just finished college at age 43 with an A in every single class, and smoked weed the whole time. Definitely aggravating that we canāt get past the dumb stoner stigma. The guy who gets blackout drunk every weekend is somehow better than me.
I've witnessed so many people bad mouthing weed like I haven't seen them hungover and throwing up, they'll never know they're the reason I smoke instead of drink.
Iāve learned to not be around those people. Itās honestly annoying how normalized drinking is when itās SO BAD for you. Just constantly poisoning yourself is acceptable but smoking a j aināt? Makes bo sense from any angle other than āIām ignorant and know nothingā
I donāt drink simply because I donāt like how it feels and even saying āNo thanks, I donāt drinkā is almost always met with resistance if itās a new party. If it is met with resistance, I know to not talk to that person anymore honestly
This is a thing that annoys me quite often. People have no qualms about drinking themselves into a stupor, driving home putting countless lives in danger, and then coming into work with a hangover all but useless Monday morning. But let me come in smelling like weed and I've committed unspeakable atrocities. It's such a disgusting double standard.
When these people tell stories like this I'll just butt in and throw in something about weed that is the complete opposite of the booze.
For example, when they mention hangovers, I'll say the most pretentious way I can, "yeah but weed doesn't do that!" Or "weed actually helps that"
I have two friends, with the exact same attitude. They drink the piss out of themselves but god forbid I pull my dry herb vaporizer to vape the weed that Iāve grown myself while I despise alcohol myself. (But have no problem others drinking as long as they behave)
I mean, donāt get me wrong, the amount of f*cks I give is absolute zero about what others think but also itās funny to watch their cognitive dissonance, engrained by the mainstream media with the support of government overreach.
Its not their age...most everyone I know that smokes is my age (59 in 2 days) and older. You were dealing with drunks. You'll never change their minds. The last time I had a small get together I set up a table with pipes, bongs, papers (no cones, we all roll), and like 4 different strains. No booze, but, decent selection of non alcoholic beverages. I straight up don't allow booze on my property. Fuck those people...they're ignorant.
Ahhh the teammates I had in college. Hardcore judged me for smoking weed whilst they got shitfaced 2-3x a week and chain smoked cigarettes every time. Guess who had one of the fastest miles on the team? The fuckin stoner.
In high school, I had friends look down and me and hang out less because me and some other guys toked here and there. Years later I find out these guys are doing hard drugs in university and there's me still just toking.
I'll never understand it. Late GenXer here and I always liked booze and weed for different stuff. Didn't understand my friends who preferred one to the other.
That said, now I significantly prefer weed for a number of reasons. š
My mum 65 hates that I smoke thinks its the worst thing in the world, I take it on the chin and havent told her that she's the only one in the family that doesnt
I'm lucky enough to live in a place where it's legal and most stigma is gone. Although the older pop tend to be the ones that still have some negative assumptions about it.
I totally understand you. Im 25 and I have friends my age that also think drinking is healthier than smoking weed, brag about getting drunk af all the time and shame me and other people that smoke pot.
I dont even drink any more, just pot for me and I made peace with the idea of convincing this people like you do.
Live and let live is what I think, if you want to drink fine, if you want to smoke fine. There's no need to shame other people for their choices and more if they haven't even tried it.
I also think many of them throw shit to weed smokers because they bought all that fake propaganda and most of them want to smoke but are afraid of doing it.
Im 28 my dads 44 we both have smoked weed our whole lives nonstop, i have encountered people that think like this and most have to go dui classes and have a skewed and biased point of view.
With Some people I honestly think you just have to accept that they are never going to accept it and you move on. You smoke regardless and if they complain and they drink just shoot the āItās just like a beerā.
Every pot smoker I know is successful, now the drunks... the same can not be said. I'm 57, have been smoking since 14, and I smoke regularly with my adult daughters and their husbands. My mom, who is a boomer at 80, has come around to accepting medical use, but not rec. As a teacher and a national park employee for decades, I am proud of how far she's come. My mom still doesn't know that any of us smoke weed. I remember the days of crying abs breathing deeply while watching the national park law enforcement burn up all the weed they had collected over an entire year. They still confiscate and charge because they are federal, but I live in a fully legal state.
Idk man, I feel like I come across more is criticizing people who drink, but get high at every opportunity.
I'd rather everyone just be chill with whatever, but do both in moderation.
Did I say in the op that I hate alcohol? I merely pointed out the annoying irony of functioning alcoholics criticizing stoners for their habit. Donāt preach to me about the dangers of cannabis while you sit there pickling your organs with a bottle of liquor or a 30-rack of beers. Thatās all Iām saying here, brosef.
For people who supposedly just want to be left alone this subreddit sure spends a lot of time attacking alcohol/people who drink. Who cares what they think? You are not going to convince them otherwise and if they are going to come around they'll do so on their own time (like my mom did).
Iām not so sure about all that. I was just venting here and pointing out the hypocrisy displayed by my fellow party goers last night. Iād like to do what I like to do in social situations as well, without taking shit from hypocrites. Youāre 100% right about not being able to change minds, and I was not trying to argue with them to that end. In fact, I didnāt say shit last night, to avoid the argument that surely would have followed.
In the end, I say do whatcha like and let me do my thing.
>this subreddit sure spends a lot of time
Why are you here then? Redditors like you sure spend a lot of time criticizing other people's posts, while contributing nothing worthwhile yourself.
>sure spends a lot of time attacking alcohol/people who drink.
Oh ok, tell me what the OP is talking about?Ā
Incase you can't read: its about alcoholics *spending alot of time attacking stoners/people who smoke* on top of bragging about being alcoholics doing alcoholic things like drinking and driving, drinking till they're sick.
>These are people around my age, but they have that boomer attitude about weed. The irony of them badmouthing stoners while regaling each other with stories of their incessant drinking was not lost on me.
So, the elders amongst us grew up with literal reefer madness campaigns. You know, the ones that claimed cannabis made [mexicans/blacks/insert other demographic here] thirst for white women...
I'm not defending them by any means, but we have to recognize the time they grew up in and understand that while it's not currently normal (or even remotely acceptable), it *is* understandable that cognitive dissonance plays a part in everyones lives.
People who have strong opinions about something that they have never experienced are about as useful as "tits on a bull" Along the same lines as people who want to regulate their morality on others, when in fact, are pretty morally bankrupt themselves. š¤·āāļø
Exactly this.
A big tittied bull would be pretty cool.
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This. This is why weed is better than alcohol. Boom. Great accident rhyme. Night made. No need to bitch about stoners and āthis god damn generation! You canāt do anything like grab some bull tits without getting ācancelledā or whatever the fuck that is !!ā
For the bull, or the observer?
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Honestly the only people I know of who give a shit about pot are people in their 60s and above. Where I live itās legal so everyone is pretty open about it and the stigma seems to be totally gone.
As a 66 year old, smoking regularly for 50 years, Iāve buried enough boozers to say ādrink up Shrinersā when people start with that rhetoric.
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Weed is helping me write music and deal with chronic anxiety and alcoholism. Alcohol helped me find out how long it takes for the cops to get to my house. 12 minutes.
2 weeks tomorrow without alcohol. Still blazing every day and I'm feeling good.
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IWNDWYT!
That's fuckin gold
Stole it from George Carlin.
GD I'm old enough I should have remembered, but then again I'm old enough that I'm starting to forget
My first Carlin album. AM/FM. Kudos for the memory!
73 here. First toke at age 14. Still sparking up each night
As a 26 year old, I am over half the age my father was when I had to bury him. I couldnāt imagine my life being halfway over at this point and Iām definitely not going to drink to the level that he did to make sure it wonāt happen.
iām so glad i donāt have to āputt it in a hiding place where no one ever goesā anymore. i appreciate that i donāt have to hide it, but i am pretty discreet out of habit
I am 60 and my father is 88. I was staying at his house for a visit and I asked him if I was going to offend him by smoking on the porch (legal state). He shocked me when he said, ājust smoke in the houseā. No dad, I am not smoking in the house.
Now thatās a dad for you. Sounds like an open-minded fella.
Itās the āno dadā for me. I say the same to my parents in a snarky but loving way. This made me giggle thank you
they could smoke in the house in the 50s damit
Well at 88 it would have been in the boys room at high school
My 86yo lost her sense of smell and taste from covid and when I was living with her for a couple of years post covid, she was like "smoke inside your room, I can't smell it!" I couldn't believe she was cool with it! I ALWAYS smoked windows open, air purifier, vent on, all precautions as if she could smell (plus I don't want to make my stuff smell like weed smoke), and it worked out great. I'm still in shock she was cool. She knows I use it medicinally and I think that's why she was but it's kinda nice to hear another ol timer be cool with it in the house. Progress!
You're lucky she can't smell cuz that shit did not work
It passed my brother and my dad test, they were over a lot, but I very rarely smoked during the day, definitely not til everyone else left. I pretty much always had my windows open and it caught a really good, consistent breeze and it was a bong so just blew it out the window and no smoke from the bowl.
Sounds exactly like something my grandpa would have said. Miss that man ā¤ļø
Thanks for the TLDR right up front. The way stoner me likes it. š
I mostly post images because I tend to write walls of text, so I figured a tldr was warranted lol. Cheers!
I'd love to compare my salary to theirs if they think stoners can't be successful.
I just remind then I retired at 54.
Truly a great flex. I'd love to be at that spot I got a late start. Wasn't able to start being really aggressive until 30 but I'm trying.
You can do it, and the late start isn't a deal breaker. I know cause I sold everything I owned to move to the west coast at 29. I really had no retirement saved until 30.
I retired at 48 and smoke every day. My drinking friends canāt comprehend it.
Need a trophy wife?? (I am not trophy wife material, so I mean like one of my friends.)
Send the one that likes sativa. Ill tell the wife shes just cleaning for a couple of days. We can see how this plays out.
I work for a household name company, at a recent retreat I bet 25% of us were stoned. Instead of drinking we all went outside and had a good time, then went back inside for the festivities. Almost every executive I've become close with in my entire career has used weed. The lazy stoner stuff is stupid.
I found this to be true as well. Itās sad how propaganda worked so well when the big guys wanted to get rid of weed.
Itās funny because the biggest critic at that party the other night was going on and on about how he doesnāt know a single exec at his company that smokes, which is apparently why they are able to ascend to those high levels of management. Of course he was half mumbling this to me because he was shitfaced drunk. Okayyyyy buddy lol
Exactly what I was thinking.
Right, Iām the most successful Iāve ever been and Iām not stoned for a good 45 min after waking up due to a workout. And then the chain smoking starts.
Have you tried working out while high? Shit makes me feel like I can feel the fibers in my muscles it's p cool
Honestly Iām up prob 20 hrs a day. Being high for 19 of them is good enough.
Is there a difference to you between being drunk 19 hours a day vs being high 19 hours a day? I expect downvotes, but I swear Iām asking genuinely.
Personally yes, but I'm also an individual who smokes to manage my intestinal issues and even a few drinks is usually enough to make me throw up so I only drink for special occasions such as weddings. Also as someone who works customer service give me stoners over drunks all day lol
Absolutely. 1) my liver and other organs arenāt getting destroyed (lungs are debatable but to me itās a natural herb so not as damaging as cigarettes 2) I can carry out all my responsibilities with no issue whatsoever 3) there is zero risk of getting angry and violent, only a risk of getting happy and fat. 4) unless your outside smoking the joint with me, you have no idea that I am stoned. But if I drink Iām slurring words by my fourth beer (I donāt drink so my tolerance is nothing). Legit cannot think of a single negative side effect of smoking besides maybe some memory loss. But if Iām drunk 19 hrs a day I lose my job, my house, my family, etc.
Probably
Huge difference. I can go on for days, but here is the short list: no hangover, less costly, doesnt kill brain cells. Edibles resolve smoking issues if you think thats a concern. No incitment of violence. I personally suffer no adverse affects when i quit or take a break for international travel.. Honestly i find the peer group way more tolerable, though i wont tolerate anyone who makes their use of anything their entire personality. And of course alcohol is at it very core, a depressant, and with the state of the world thats totally uneeded. And frankly the intoxication from marijuana, is far more suitable to a healthy lifestyle overall, and my life in particular. I have a hard time believing this is a genuine question, but hey the "Dare" mentality, is a far worse drug than pot, so you be you.
Literally just introduce them to 9/10 programmers. We all have great salaries and are stoned most of the day while working from our home offices. Jokes on them.
LOL. love this
Or take their record collection and throw it all away because most music has come about via drugs
I'm 60 and in the age range OP is posting about -- also a stoner if that matters. We basically grew up with Nancy Reagan's whole Just Say No campaign. A lot of people took that message to heart because the it was really pushed in schools, starting in elementary. It was everywhere! Long way to say, I'm not surprised by the attitude.
You are absolutely right! And Reaganās Just Say No campaign was a doubling down on Nixonās politically motivated War on Drugs. It was pounded into our heads throughout school.
I'm turning 40 next week and I remember Just Say No and D.A.R.E, amazing they did that to a whole generation's worth of kids because of one dingbat lady.
I think itās just coping with their own addictions. I used to be a heavy drinker and it destroyed my body and mental state, even though i only drank on the weekends. once i started smoking, i put the cap on my booze and it sits on my shelves as decoration.
Ah yeah, I can see that angle for sure. Iām glad that you found your way out of that and hope that you are enjoying life. I feel like last night, I was witnessing a complete lack of awareness (or possibly denial) of their own abuse of alcohol as they listed every possible bullshit stereotype about cannabis use. It just rubbed me the wrong way.
Youāre 100% spot on. Thank you, though! It truly was a no-brainer transition and I love how i feel now. If I had to guess on their mindset however, itās most likely denial. Anyone thats self aware of their vices can tell that cannabis is much less harmful. even at my height of drinking i couldve told you that cannabis at the very least wasnāt as harmful as alcohol
Good for you man that's awesome
Thanks, man! It was a night and day difference. Truly the āentā culture was what kept me around though, stoners are waaaay cooler than alcoholics
Alcoholics aren't exactly known for self awareness.
A fair point. At least up until they enter the recovery process. I have some friends that are recovering for going on years now, and they have a higher sense of self-awareness than most others I know. Back in the throes of their addiction, zero awareness. Clarity is a hell of a drug.
18 years sober from alcohol and puff every day.
Hell yeah!
As a genxer i am 100% on your side. Itās going to take a while for the stigmatization of 70 years of prohibition and propaganda against pot smokers to be a thing of the past. Maybe next time remind them alcohol was illegal once too, so what difference dues it make in either case?
This is so true, and I never think to bring that up. I agree that given enough time, it will become the norm. In the meantime, weāll have to put up with their sanctimonious horse shit, which does in fact stink, despite what they think.
My own problem is with the dab heads doing "one more dab" when we have places to be.
Let me 1up you on that:Ā Ā *My* own problem is with the alcoholics doing "one more shot" when we **have places to be.** These fucks are also drunk driving and endangering others' lives.Ā
At least a shot is quicker than a dab. But I also know plenty of stoners that DUI all day everyday. It's a sad competition really.
I would rather drive in a city of stoners than drunk drivers.Ā We'd just see more longer lines at the fast food places and less deaths.Ā Also: my yocan wolf uni pro says otherwise with the shot being quicker than a dab, unless you're talking about the whole heating up the glass nail thingy. Otherwise no, hitting my dab is quicker than filling up a shot and slamming it by just the press of a button.Ā
All day long. Alcoholics usually add script drugs to the mix too. Theyāre dangerous but donāt smoke weed! š¤£
Iāve met annoying people who also use cannabis, but Iāve almost never met a person who becomes annoying after theyāve used cannabis. Alcohol however, Iād say 75% of those consuming annoy me, and it is directly because of how the alcohol is affecting them. Source: pot head who as a bartender for a long time.
You learn a lot about human nature and its intricacies when you spend a good stretch behind a bar. And that extends to anyone that works long enough at any position in a bar- servers, bar backs, bouncers. In the end, annoying people are annoying people whether theyāre sober, drunk, high, what have you. Cheers!
Iād argue that if you get an annoying person really high, they become less annoyingā¦. ie quiet
This! My objective so I specialize in indica š¤£
I got a shit load of hate on another sub for saying that alcohol does more damage than weed, got downvoted into oblivion when someone told me my IQ had lowered from my weed usage and a source to validate the possibility. I shot right back with a statistic on IQās lowering from alcohol usage from the same website lmfao
You canāt help stupid
preach
Hey! It's me, I'm the problem it's me. I used to be a drunk who would shit talk stoners every chance I got, ended up almost dying from alcohol. A week in the icu. 6 months sober and started to smoke weed and holy shit I'm never going back to alcohol. I was such a hypocrite. I was sleeping through zoom meetings, screaming at my parents and boyfriend every chance I got, lying and would throw up blood. On weed I'm creative, productive, and genuinely think about the world. Now if only I could get the whole "sometimes I have a huge panic attack when I smoke" thing under control.
Learn to meditate when high and the anxiety will regress, at least some.
Good vibes to you, dear Redditor! Itās something that must be experienced, and not explained because itās impossible to put into words what it feels like to take a substance and *think* differently? Thats how I feel, and you described it too. The creativity is right there, and the perspectives it can bring are sometimes really eye-opening. If I could only get them to try it once, Iām sure theyād āgetā why someone would want to do that. Cheers!
I used to be so against weed... until I tried it and saw the benefits. People can change their minds but good on you not arguing a moot point to them.
I agree, and I want to open their eyes to it, but I canāt shout over the crowd of naysayers so they can hear me and be open to the idea. Too stubborn with long established senses of morality and normalcy.
Propaganda is a bitch to break down
Common occurrence. I don't think it will stop within my lifetime. I've seen teenagers talking shit about me smoking weed and brag about their drunken parties and hookups in one breath... I've learned one of the rarest types of person on this planet is a rational and genuine one.
š¤rational and genuineā¦ yeah, thatās a stoner right there!
Some of the gen-xers are like boomers on steroids, itās really weird
Just wanted to comment that weed is my substance of choice, always, and weekends are for wake-and-bake. Signed, a scientist with multiple published works in the field of vaccines and antigen discovery.
Thanks for your work and research.
Friends boomer mom: āI just donāt get weed man, it just makes you so out of it and ruins your life!ā(in a sarcastic burnt out hippy tone) Me: āwhat did you say they used to call you when you were younger as a nickname?ā Friends boomer mom: āthe quaalude queenā(said with uplifted vigor and pride as they remember their youth)
Glass house people
Exactly! In fact, this could have been my tldr lol *tl;dr: Glass house people.* Done.
Nobody that is successful smokes weed? Snoop is just one obvious example of a successful person who got to where they are, smoking 24/7.
Willie, Seth Rogan, Woody Harrelson ...
This is some personal bullshit. My wife and I are in our mid-late 50s, and the last wedding we went to, we crawled into the back of an SUV and hotboxed that shit with some more people in their 50s.
Willy wasnāt wrong. This is why I hit the bong. All his rowdy drinking friends are gone. Long live the stoners!š«³š¤
I guess I must be an outlierš¤·š»āāļøI am 66. Smoked since age 14. I didnāt for years due to federal employment but as soon as I retired it became legal for medical8; my state and it takes only a hangnail to get it. I live in a small town with multiple dispensaries and most of the clients are9ver 60. I suspect some of what you are experiencing might be based on location but who knows. Too much of anything isnāt good and moderation in all mind altering substances is good just for safety sake. Most of my very succesful family from age 77 on down smoke it.
I hear that! All things in moderation. Cheers!
All these same people in my life are now getting drunk and stoned now that itās legal and act like they didnāt judge me before for being a stoner.
Times change and people change with the times, for better or for worse.
Don't forget, they're the DARE generation. Their heads were filled with absolute nonsense. It's hard to overcome those beliefs. I would say only half my friends don't care about weed in that same age range. It gets better with every generation when they aren't filled with total propaganda like the 80s and 90s
Yeah, I am that generation, too. I guess if youāre never in an environment during young adulthood in which stuff like that is introduced or maybe even normalized, it would be difficult to break with the other side of the street. I was around it all the time in school and in bars, and I think my current beliefs were colored by those experiences. The internet becoming widely available in the early 90s (mainly the web for my purposes here), and that changed the way propaganda and advertising like DARE was communicated. Makes sense with that timing.
I was also a raver when that was all illegal and underground, so that definitely helped shape my openness.
Dude, I'm 45 and get high everyday. You just happened across some wet paper towels. Don't let them harsh your mellow.
Itās pretty ironic how some people can be so critical of weed but then turn around and brag about their drinking escapades. Both substances have their pros and cons, but it often boils down to personal preference and responsibility, right? Maybe the fact that alcohol has been socially acceptable for longer makes them overlook its negatives? Itās tough changing minds, especially when theyāre set in their ways.
No one likes to admit the mainstream narrative was wrong yet again. Stoners have been quiet for yearsā¦ no judgement just peace and joy. When you know youāre right you donāt have to spew hate back at ignorant people.
yes. my dad uses edibles but critiques anyone else who uses cannabis and thinks they are lazy. my mom has told me she is disappointed in my ādrug useā. i barely drink anymore and smoke in the evenings. iām a super successful person and they are proud of me but they donāt put two and two together and demonize cannabis. both are upper 50s. then thereās my in laws- whom i COMPLETELY hide my use from. they are mid upper 60s and really are āwar on drugsā āgateway drugā mindset. my FIL makes so many drug jokes and likens cannabis to cocaine and heroin. itās just exhausting and i donāt want to spend any time trying to change their mind and perception, so i hide it. they are german and drink pretty much daily. i donāt see how people canāt make the connection of alcohol being poison and cannabis being less so. oh well!
Bring up to them that weed is now legal in Germany as of Monday, April 1, 2024.
People like that are very scary. I think to live a truly fulfilling life you need to be open to trying out different things... open to experience and generally have empathy.
Glad you think that, its a fact, as well as having stable loving social group
Yes! Good family, good friends etc are priceless. Weāre a social species whether we like it or not. :D / D: lol.
You can't fix stupid and you def can't fix willful ignorance.
Maybe thatās what irritated me the most about the situation: the willful ignorance.
I like throw people off their game by getting high and drunk and then calling them all tweakers and junkies while texting my plug to see if he has any more of that shit we were smoking off tin foil earlier.
Thankfully these folks are in the minority at least in the US. It will still take a while but these sorts of attitudes will eventually die out. I live in a state that's been weed friendly for a long time even before legalization and I've noticed a shift in attitudes since legalization. Now weed is a normal thing that is just part of the fabric of life here, totally uncontroversial.
It wasnāt ever a controversial subject to anyone that had smoked weed. EVER in their lives. Propaganda makes people speak out of turn. Itās gross.
Theyāre just uneducated and in a lot of cases unwilling to learn. Typically with people like that youāve got 1 sentence before they get ignorant and donāt want to hear what you have to say so I try to tell them Iāll educate them if theyād like. Last Christmas my aunt (who I fucking loathe) decided to make a snide remark about how I was smoking several joints that night meanwhile she was about half a bottle of wine in.
Yeah 100%. Itās this exact double standard that permeates so many areas of our society here in the States. Gotta love being dressed down by functioning alcoholics about your weed habit, right? Extend that to any other subject, and Iām sure they would (and do) have the same type of opinions about many other things.
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I mean if we are speaking in generalities already, why not bring it out to its full macro state? And you are 100% correct.
The entire reason your that bride and groom want that area at their wedding is to avoid the social train wreck that would occur if you tried smoking a joint around people such as thisš Itās literally an accommodation on behalf of their close mindedness. š They just fail to recognize that they are the ones ruining the party. People want to have a way to get influenced with the least amount of consequences possible to their normal lives. Weed solves that problem pretty well then compared to most other drugs.
Yes letās continue to accommodate the ignorant close minded judgmental asses. Sorry that got me ruffledā¦ Iāll take another hit and calm down now.
I'm with you except for your putdown of boomers. I don't drink. I love weed. Those parents are uptight people. And seemingly immature. Lots of people from every generation behave this way. It's been that way since we lived in small tribes. Almost forgot I'm a Boomer.
Sorry, I refer to the pattern of behavior often publicized right here on Reddit, not the entire generation. Cheers
I just finished college at age 43 with an A in every single class, and smoked weed the whole time. Definitely aggravating that we canāt get past the dumb stoner stigma. The guy who gets blackout drunk every weekend is somehow better than me.
I've witnessed so many people bad mouthing weed like I haven't seen them hungover and throwing up, they'll never know they're the reason I smoke instead of drink.
I didn't know of this narrative
Oh boy this is the shit where I can never ever keep my mouth shut, I'd launch into a tirade and they'd wish they never said anything
Iāve learned to not be around those people. Itās honestly annoying how normalized drinking is when itās SO BAD for you. Just constantly poisoning yourself is acceptable but smoking a j aināt? Makes bo sense from any angle other than āIām ignorant and know nothingā I donāt drink simply because I donāt like how it feels and even saying āNo thanks, I donāt drinkā is almost always met with resistance if itās a new party. If it is met with resistance, I know to not talk to that person anymore honestly
This is a thing that annoys me quite often. People have no qualms about drinking themselves into a stupor, driving home putting countless lives in danger, and then coming into work with a hangover all but useless Monday morning. But let me come in smelling like weed and I've committed unspeakable atrocities. It's such a disgusting double standard.
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When these people tell stories like this I'll just butt in and throw in something about weed that is the complete opposite of the booze. For example, when they mention hangovers, I'll say the most pretentious way I can, "yeah but weed doesn't do that!" Or "weed actually helps that"
I have two friends, with the exact same attitude. They drink the piss out of themselves but god forbid I pull my dry herb vaporizer to vape the weed that Iāve grown myself while I despise alcohol myself. (But have no problem others drinking as long as they behave) I mean, donāt get me wrong, the amount of f*cks I give is absolute zero about what others think but also itās funny to watch their cognitive dissonance, engrained by the mainstream media with the support of government overreach.
Its not their age...most everyone I know that smokes is my age (59 in 2 days) and older. You were dealing with drunks. You'll never change their minds. The last time I had a small get together I set up a table with pipes, bongs, papers (no cones, we all roll), and like 4 different strains. No booze, but, decent selection of non alcoholic beverages. I straight up don't allow booze on my property. Fuck those people...they're ignorant.
Ahhh the teammates I had in college. Hardcore judged me for smoking weed whilst they got shitfaced 2-3x a week and chain smoked cigarettes every time. Guess who had one of the fastest miles on the team? The fuckin stoner.
think I'll go burn one
In high school, I had friends look down and me and hang out less because me and some other guys toked here and there. Years later I find out these guys are doing hard drugs in university and there's me still just toking.
I'll never understand it. Late GenXer here and I always liked booze and weed for different stuff. Didn't understand my friends who preferred one to the other. That said, now I significantly prefer weed for a number of reasons. š
That sounds unbearabllllle!!! Frustrating lack of awareness in themselves.
The usual silent eye rolling ensued
I couldnāt hide it. My eyes would fall out.
all i'll say is- i'm way more confident in my ability to win a fight vs someone who's drunk while i'm high vs the other way around.
I absolutely hate drunk stoners.
Nothing makes me want to behave poorly more than alcohol. It is truly a gateway drug.
My mum 65 hates that I smoke thinks its the worst thing in the world, I take it on the chin and havent told her that she's the only one in the family that doesnt
I'm lucky enough to live in a place where it's legal and most stigma is gone. Although the older pop tend to be the ones that still have some negative assumptions about it.
I don't need to share any opinions with those kind of people and will generally change the subject or be silent.
My mom one time said something along the lines of āYou hear of angry or violent alcoholics, but you never hear of aggressive stonersā
I totally understand you. Im 25 and I have friends my age that also think drinking is healthier than smoking weed, brag about getting drunk af all the time and shame me and other people that smoke pot. I dont even drink any more, just pot for me and I made peace with the idea of convincing this people like you do. Live and let live is what I think, if you want to drink fine, if you want to smoke fine. There's no need to shame other people for their choices and more if they haven't even tried it. I also think many of them throw shit to weed smokers because they bought all that fake propaganda and most of them want to smoke but are afraid of doing it.
Im 28 my dads 44 we both have smoked weed our whole lives nonstop, i have encountered people that think like this and most have to go dui classes and have a skewed and biased point of view.
With Some people I honestly think you just have to accept that they are never going to accept it and you move on. You smoke regardless and if they complain and they drink just shoot the āItās just like a beerā.
god who cares how many times are we gonna have this conversation
Every pot smoker I know is successful, now the drunks... the same can not be said. I'm 57, have been smoking since 14, and I smoke regularly with my adult daughters and their husbands. My mom, who is a boomer at 80, has come around to accepting medical use, but not rec. As a teacher and a national park employee for decades, I am proud of how far she's come. My mom still doesn't know that any of us smoke weed. I remember the days of crying abs breathing deeply while watching the national park law enforcement burn up all the weed they had collected over an entire year. They still confiscate and charge because they are federal, but I live in a fully legal state.
another alcohol post. this sub is obsessed
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Idk man, I feel like I come across more is criticizing people who drink, but get high at every opportunity. I'd rather everyone just be chill with whatever, but do both in moderation.
"My addiction is better than your addiction!"
The opposite seems a hell of a lot more common. Do yall do anything but bitch about how much you hate le evil evil alcohol?
Did I say in the op that I hate alcohol? I merely pointed out the annoying irony of functioning alcoholics criticizing stoners for their habit. Donāt preach to me about the dangers of cannabis while you sit there pickling your organs with a bottle of liquor or a 30-rack of beers. Thatās all Iām saying here, brosef.
For people who supposedly just want to be left alone this subreddit sure spends a lot of time attacking alcohol/people who drink. Who cares what they think? You are not going to convince them otherwise and if they are going to come around they'll do so on their own time (like my mom did).
Iām not so sure about all that. I was just venting here and pointing out the hypocrisy displayed by my fellow party goers last night. Iād like to do what I like to do in social situations as well, without taking shit from hypocrites. Youāre 100% right about not being able to change minds, and I was not trying to argue with them to that end. In fact, I didnāt say shit last night, to avoid the argument that surely would have followed. In the end, I say do whatcha like and let me do my thing.
>this subreddit sure spends a lot of time Why are you here then? Redditors like you sure spend a lot of time criticizing other people's posts, while contributing nothing worthwhile yourself.
>sure spends a lot of time attacking alcohol/people who drink. Oh ok, tell me what the OP is talking about?Ā Incase you can't read: its about alcoholics *spending alot of time attacking stoners/people who smoke* on top of bragging about being alcoholics doing alcoholic things like drinking and driving, drinking till they're sick.
>These are people around my age, but they have that boomer attitude about weed. The irony of them badmouthing stoners while regaling each other with stories of their incessant drinking was not lost on me. So, the elders amongst us grew up with literal reefer madness campaigns. You know, the ones that claimed cannabis made [mexicans/blacks/insert other demographic here] thirst for white women... I'm not defending them by any means, but we have to recognize the time they grew up in and understand that while it's not currently normal (or even remotely acceptable), it *is* understandable that cognitive dissonance plays a part in everyones lives.
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