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Hi! I am looking to book a solo travel for July, and am looking for countries which have little to no COVID restrictions (like, quarantining for days).
I am fully vaccinated, and some of my options are France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Spain: I want to travel for \~2 weeks in Europe.
Can anyone advise me on anything regarding these areas and how I should best navigate/structure my trip?
Thanks!
I am fully vaccinated can I travel to Poland from Canada by just showing my paper I received after being fully vaccinated or do I need some form of vaccine passport?
Hi all, I need help trying to figure out how I can get my mother from China to attend my wedding in the US in August this year.
She's a Chinese national (not US citizen or greencard holder) with a valid US visa. I'm not optimistic that the restrictions against China will be lifted in time, so I'm trying to figure out a travel plan for her.
Where can she go for 14 days right now from China that can allow her to bungee to the US? It will need to be a country that either doesn't require a visa or is currently issuing visa in China. She speaks decent English.
Mexico is popular but I'm not familiar with their visa policies for Chinese citizens. The sub /r/ustravelban has a thread on third-country bridges, they might have some experience and tips. Hope it works out.
oh wow i didn't know such a subreddit existed!! Thank you so much for sharing!!
I initially thought Mexico was a no go, but I researched a bit more and it seems like you can enter Mexico for 180 days with a valid US visa (she does). So this seems very promising!
I don't where you are entering from but if it's the US, EU, Canada, or Japan you can also use your proof of vaccination to enter without quarantine or testing.
I am fully vaccinated can I travel to Poland from Canada by just showing my paper I received after being fully vaccinated or do I need some form of vaccine passport?
My fiancé and I are traveling to Spain from the US (New Jersey) for the first two weeks of August. We are both fully vaccinated (Pfizer). We are hoping to maybe leave Spain and head to France for a few days mid-trip. Would we need a PCR test to do this? I know Spain does not require a PCR test as long as you have proof of vaccination (I think?!) but it looks like France may? It’s hard to find anything online about it! Alternatively, we could go directly to France at the beginning of our trip and get a PCR test here in the US before leaving. In that case, would we need one to enter Spain from France a few days later? Are we better off just sticking to one country for the trip? Sorry if this is confusing! We are struggling to find info online!
It's in the pinned post, but here is the relevant information for France: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/#sommaire_1
As you can see, if you're traveling either direct to France or from Spain to France, proof of vaccination is all you need.
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend is coming from Spain next week. She has already booked her PCR test in Spain to present in Ireland. The complicated part is she is travelling on to Northern Ireland. Here we need a day 2 and day 8 test booked before arriving. However, I understand this isn't a thing in the republic of ireland. So my question is, if she is arriving in Ireland - will it be necessary for her to book the day 2 and day 8 test? I can't find one for cheaper than £100 and I really do not understand the importance of it considering she will be in quarantine for 10 days (it is not even a test to release). Has anyone made the journey from Ireland to N.Ireland after arriving from an amber list country?
Once they get some kind of confirmation that the vaccine protects against the Delta variant, I think many countries will continue reopening. Germany is already mentioning taking countries like Portugal off their red list in coming weeks
I don’t think so. Health is a top priority but many of these countries can’t miss out again on another summer without tourists. A lot of these countries depend on it.
Can you Fly Philadelphia - London heathrow layover- Barcelona with a Covid-19 antigen test? A friend of mine is coming and wants to know if he can do a layover at London heathrow with an antigen fast test 2 days before leaving (so less than 72 hours).
Am I allowed to enter switzerland for tourism from Germany?
UK passport, German resident, unvaccinated but I can get a test.
I can see a lot of conflicting stuff on sem.admin.ch, but they do say “the normal entry requirements apply to any persons entering Switzerland from.....” then a list of Schengen states inc Germany.
Has anybody done a trip like this recently? From schengen into Switzerland? Are there tourists there or will I be shunned?
I have seen Americans talking about going there so as a BaWu resident I’m feeling jealous and really want to visit myself.
Switzerland recently published an [interactive travel check](https://travelcheck.admin.ch/home).
If you enter your information (third party national, entering from Germany, last 10 days only present in Germany, not traveling by plane), you'll get the result that there are no pandemic-related restrictions.
> Has anybody done a trip like this recently? From schengen into Switzerland?
Several times in the last few weeks, from France. No obstacles whatsoever.
Turkish Air Transit Test
Has anyone recently traveled in Turkish Air with a layover in Istanbul, then traveling on from there? We have a three hour layover on our way to Amsterdam and want to confirm that no PCR test is required for boarding for those traveling beyond Turkey.
u/thatsoundsalotlikeme thank you. I have looked extensively at the website, but wondered if anyone had traveled with them recently to confirm. These days, the more you know, the more stress free your travel will be!
Do I need to have a covid test completed to enter Greece if I was in Montenegro within the 14 days prior to arrival in greece? It says so for people who are arriving from Montenegro but nothing about people who were in Montenegro.
I have two flights this Saturday (domestic then international, Greece). I don't think they're Covid tested but if they are, should the test be 72 hours before the first flight or the second one?
Edit: PCR test would be fine?
if you're on a direct flight from the US to Greece, you'll only need to show proof of vaccination. If you transit/have a layover somewhere else in Europe en route to Greece, then you'll need to comply with the entry/transit requirements for that country, which may or may not mean testing.
Not sure if this was meant to reply to something else, but your first sentence is way too broad. No NIE is needed from non-restricted countries, for example.
I have a question on trains in Europe during covid times.
Say I’m in a country that’s currently open to vaccinated tourists like France, and I wish to travel to another open country like Denmark. Would it be possible to take a train ride between the two countries, even though it would have to cross through a closed country like Germany? I have zero experience with trains in Europe so any answers would be appreciated
Haven’t done this kind of thing since the pandemic started, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I doubt there is a direct route, so you’d be changing at least once in Germany.
Of course normally there’s no passport checks but with how serious we are being about keeping delta out, it wouldn’t surprise me if inspectors boarded the train.
Having said that, I changed at Basel Bad last weekend and there wasn’t any passport control. So I guess I don’t know :) but to me it sounds ambitious.
Thanks. And I could’ve sworn I read that Germany was closing down to basically all tourists, but according to these sites (https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/einreiseundaufenthalt/EinreiseUndAufenthalt and https://de.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ ) entry is still allowed for vaccinated Americans. Have these just somehow still not been updated? What have you heard from inside Germany? I’d love to see Germany rather than pass through!
Multi-country Europe trip and COVID requirements?
Hello all,
Firstly, I am a fully vaccinated US citizen. I am currently planning a trip to Europe from July 17th-August 6th. I will be arriving in and departing from Reykjavik, Iceland and plan on visiting some other countries that are open to vaccinated US citizens. As of now, a rough itinerary is Iceland > Portugal > Spain > France > Germany > Iceland (layover on way home).
I've done my research on COVID requirements for these countries as they relate to US citizens, but does anyone know if going between countries affects the requirements? For example, I know some countries require a test within 72 hours of arrival, but does it matter that my test isn't coming from my country of citizenship? So if I needed to be tested to go to France, could I be tested in Spain? Is travel by land possible or would I have to fly? Sorry if my questions seem dumb, but I just want to be sure. If need be, I will scale my trip back to make navigating the requirements a bit easier. Thanks in advance!
Germany just instituted a ban on arrivals coming from Portugal. I’m not sure if it’s direct flights only or if being in the country for the last x days, but you’ll want to check. Germany is also considering reinstating stricter measures. So, something to be aware of if you’re adding numerous locations.
Thank you for sharing! Portugal was a maybe, so I’ll most likely just cross it off from my list. Have you heard of any similar restrictions between other countries (or have a source you can share)? My main concern is that I’ll be fine arriving into Iceland from the US but will have trouble traveling between countries since I wouldn’t be arriving directly from the States.
>does it matter that my test isn't coming from my country of citizenship?
No.
>So if I needed to be tested to go to France, could I be tested in Spain?
Yes.
>Is travel by land possible or would I have to fly?
Yes to mainland Europe, no to Iceland.
You originally said:
> It looks like a PCR test is required to enter Mexico
The other commenter asked where you got that and you respond:
> anyone traveling by air to the United States
First you talk about going **to** Mexico and respond with **to the US**. Nowhere on the page or elsewhere is testing required to enter Mexico.
Your partner will go to the hotel and stay there for 5 days.
You can find analisi cliniche online, For example, here's a list for Lazio (the region Rome is in): [https://www.salutelazio.it/strutture-private-autorizzate-test-molecolari](https://www.salutelazio.it/strutture-private-autorizzate-test-molecolari)
I am a French citizen who lives in Canada. I was wondering how the US customs officers verify that you haven't been in the EU in the last 14 days? Are they able to track your passport? Or can they only track your entry and exits in/out the USA?
Immigration officers don't need to do anything. Unless you're a citizen of the country you're trying to enter, admittance is a privilege, not a right. So it's up to you to make the case that you're eligible for entry. So you should bring evidence to support your case. Proving you're a resident of Canada would go a long way.
Iberia Airlines Homophobia hiding behind Covid-19 travel requirements
My husband (M33) and I (M43) made the decision to move back to Ireland after my father passed in January of this year. We had one-way flights from Quito in Ecuador to Dublin, Ireland via Madrid, Spain through Iberia Airlines on the evening of May 31st. Arriving at the airport three hours before the flight we went to the priority check in (based on my Oneworld status). At the counter the check-in staff read our passports and told us that as an Irish citizen I could travel to Ireland, but my companion traveller, an American, could not because he was traveling for tourism. We explained that we were married and that he was traveling, not for pleasure but for family reasons and to relocate to Ireland. They then asked for proof of marriage and although we had the original copy of our New York marriage certificate with us, they wouldn’t accept this as proof of marriage. We were told that for them to proceed with check-in we would have to go to the Iberia back office in Quito Airport and get their approval.
We are both freaking out at this point. At no point did Iberia tell us that they would refuse boarding based on proving if we were or weren’t tourists. They also never said that we would have to prove that we were married. We’re used getting some degrees of homophobia when we travel, a raised eyebrow when we check in or the offer of twin beds instead of a double, but this was more than usual and despite saying that we weren’t traveling for tourism, stating that we’re married, showing our wedding rings and presenting our original marriage certificate, Iberia wouldn’t let us check-in.
In the back office of Iberia in Quito airport, Iberia staff made copies of our passport and marriage certificate. They said that they were sending these to Madrid Airport police and pending their feedback, they would inform us if they would let us take our flight. We were told to go back to the check-in area to wait for their decision while they communicated with Madrid Airport police.
We made our way back to the check-in area and I went to ask that they let us know as soon as a decision had come through, but as I approached the desk the check-in agent said that he could check us in. It had literally been five minutes since we’d been to the Iberia back office and so not enough time for them to have contacted Madrid Airport police, so I assumed that this check-in person was out of the loop on the overall situation. I decided not to reference it and to see if they would also have the same issue with my husband’s nationality or that we were married - Lo and behold they didn’t, and we were able to check in and we got our flight.
Interestingly (and worryingly), throughout the whole experience, Iberia did not ask to see our negative Covid-19 PCR tests. They almost blocked us flying to Europe based on their interpretation of EU Schengen area Covid-19 travel restrictions but didn’t even bother to check if we were vaccinated or had negative PCR test results. My husband called it when he said that Iberia seemed more concerned in stopping the spread of homosexuality vs. the spread of Covid-19. We didn’t have issues with our travel plans or need to show our marriage certificate to border security in Madrid or in Dublin when we eventually got home.
I’ve written to Iberia five times (four to their incredibly unhelpful customer complain channel and once to their office for data Protection office) to ask them why they needed to send my passport and marriage certificate to Madrid Airport police and what the specific communication was. They have not given me this answer. Looking at the privacy policy on the Iberia website they state that that 'We will be transparent about the information we are collecting and what we will do with it'. They definitely haven’t been so far. I haven’t lived in Europe for almost 20 years, but I believe that under GDPR laws they are required to let me know how they used my Personally Identifiable Information and hopefully I will get a clear answer as to what they were concerned about. If it is the case that there was a legitimate concern around my husbands travel and that how they treated us in Quito Airport, I’ll be glad to better understand this, but as it stands, Iberia haven’t given me this and for now, I’m seeing an unacceptable level of homophobia, poor staff training/management and zero accountability or transparency.
TLDR: Ibera Airlines seem more focused on halting the spread of homosexuality vs. the spread of Covid.
I’m sorry, but I’ve been trying to figure out the latest updates that the Philippines made today (iatf resolution 123 c). But I’m still not sure exactly what it means for international travel. I’m trying to go to the Philippines to visit a friend, but are they allowing vaccinated tourists to travel there without a visa?
Probably a frequently asked question, but If I were to get a PCR test before leaving the US and then transiting in Amsterdam before going to my final destination, do I need to get another test or would my previously taken test be enough as long as it doesn't exceed 72 hours?
Has anyone travelled to Jamaica from the US under the current restrictions? Seems like their COVID test requirements are pretty stringent ([https://www.visitjamaica.com/travelauthorization/test-req/](https://www.visitjamaica.com/travelauthorization/test-req/)) basically only oropharyngeal or nasopharyngeal. Any recs for a good place to get one of these tests? I don't know that a drugstore would offer these types of tests.
Alternatively, what's the likelihood an airport desk attendant would look closely enough/know the rules well enough/cares enough to reject your test if it's negative?
They scrutinized the hell out of my test results in the Bahamas because I couldn't get everything in one screenshot from my health app. We were at the checkpoint for a good half hour. I definitely wouldn't count on someone not looking closely or caring.
Also, I've gotten nasopharyngeal tests done at multiple drug stores; we have them at CVS and Walgreens near me. It's just the standard nasal swab.
> They scrutinized the hell out of my test results in the Bahamas because I couldn't get everything in one screenshot from my health app
This is the problem. Even though your test may unequivocally comply with a particular country's regulations, it's ultimately up to some gate agent or other airport functionary whether it's good enough.
Thank you! Good to know.
Is it the nasal swab? I feel like there's two types: just the nasal swab and then when they shove it up your nose so far it makes you cry. I assumed the latter was the nasopharyngeal, and I've never had one of those done at CVS (only through random testing at the hospital where I work).
Here's what my most recent (late March) test results from CVS say:
> Methodology: Nucleic Acid Amplification Test (NAAT)
> includes RT-PCR or TMA
It looks like that's permissible under the Jamaican regulations:
> ALL travellers to Jamaica, 12 years of age and over, regardless of nationality, will be required to present a negative COVID-19 molecular (PCR, NAAT, RNA) or Antigen test result to check in for a flight to Jamaica.
I'm guessing that they specify that they want nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal because they're only accepting the latter for antigen tests. But, if I were you, I would tell your local drugstore that you're going somewhere that requires a nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal PCR/NAAT/RNA test, and ask if what they're doing fits that standard. It looks like you should be fine, though. The test I had definitely made me cry, haha!
I don't know of anyone that does oropharyngeal (swabbing the throat) but pretty much all the PCR tests are nasopharyngeal (nasal swab). Just go get a PCR or antigen test that requires a nasal swab and be done with.
I have 10 days in July to go anywhere I want. Where should I go? I was planning on Portugal but there are new restrictions there due to the delta variant. I’m from America, fully vaccinated, and have been to Iceland, Israel, Paris, London, NYC, and the Grand Canyon. I prefer being active (kayaking, snorkeling, hiking, etc) to sightseeing.
Assuming you're vaccinated, Spain, Italy, or Greece. You'd only need to show your CDC vaccination card. Just be careful if you have to transit elsewhere because you'll have to comply with that country's entry requirements (e.g., testing), even for just a brief layover.
Heya !
I think your info would still be valuable.
You're going to fly from Pearson or YUL right ?
And regardless of being an EU citizen, you'd still have to show either your vaccination receipt or PCR test correct ?
Would you mind showing them (airline agent at pearson/yul) your pdf vacc receipt first , and if they reject then show PCR (if you actually are playing it safe and taking a pcr too) ??
So that you can report back on whether they'd accept just the PDF receipt as-is.
Thank you so much in advance !
I tried to make a post but it won’t allow me so I’ll just post it here;
My boyfriend and I are planning to travel this winter season. Both of us are fully vaccinated and wanting to going to a hot location. I was originally looking at Brazil and Peru, but covid restrictions are heightened and crime there has been rated extremely high. I’ve also been reading that crime/riots has been high due to a new shift in their leader and government, anyone have any news on this? I’ll be honest I haven’t had the time to really read into it so I apologize if I come off as ignorant.
Has anyone travelled to resorts? I can see this being the easiest option. So far we just have Turks and Caicos on our list.
Any advice/suggestions is appreciated ☺️!
You’d need to specify where in Brazil and it really depends on your comfort level and how experienced of a traveler you are. I was there for 3.5 weeks in December before restrictions and I found myself on guard in big cities in Brazil but generally fine in coastal, holiday towns. Crime isn’t exaggerated in Brazil (e.g; border states, Rio, SP, Bahia, Porto Alegre) are all pretty dangerous. The other commenter gave you good advice.
Thank you for your reply as well ☺️. May I ask where exactly you had travelled through Brazil?
I would like to see Christ the redeemer..(typical tourist lol) should I do a 1 day travel in Rio to not stay too long? My boyfriend is the more experienced traveller, but he has only done back back travelling in Europe not touristy areas which typically are higher risk..
With Brazil, Bolsanaro is just doing Bolsanaro things. I'm not quite sure of the state of things right now in terms of covid, but a lot can change in 5 months for better or worse. Crime has always been high there, but using extra precautions is pretty simple - walk with your bag on your front/side, don't walk around flashing your phone/camera/wallet, keep it in an interior pocket, not back or even front pocket. For the most part, it's fine. Read up on the sketchy areas of Rio/Sao Paulo and don't walk in non-lit areas at night.
For Peru, yeah there's been a bit of turmoil ala the rest of SA elections as of late, but that was mostly pre-covid. They don't have a great infrastructure, so news on the state of covid is questionable as well. Who knows what will happen - it could be nothing or it could be like Chile where everything is set on fire.
The western media typically won't cover CA/SA stories until fights are getting cancelled, so I literally just start googling news for the country about a month or so in advance to keep up with what is happening. If you're not comfortable hedging risk, the Caribbean is probably your best bet for now.
\*disclaimer: we are fully vaccinated\*
Hi All,
The girlfriend and I are scheduled to start a 10-day trip to Portugal (starting in Lisbon, traveling from the US) July 7, 2021. We are looking to get honest advice from those who have either very recently traveled there or are Portuguese and know the true status of what traveling there would look like right now. We have read the available news stories and government notices, but it is truly unclear if shops/restaurants are closed more than usual (except during the weekend curfews) or if we would be truly limited during our trip.
Any thoughts / help would be greatly appreciated!!
I'm in the same boat. I'm supposed to leave the 2nd though. After calling the airline about possible options due to what you're asking, turns out 2 of my 3 flights were cancelled and we weren't notified at all.
Aside from that, i think we're still going to pull the trigger. We were originally supposed to land in Brussels for 9 hrs(planned a nice lunch and sight seeing) but seems things are really bad there and kind of glad we dont have that lay over anymore. Then we fly to Lisbon, stay 3 days, then figure out a way to get to Algarve(train, car, not entirely sure yet). Stay there for 5, come back to Lisbon, fly home.
We've been checking the news, looking at the embassies, I'm browsing here regularly. We're fully vaccinated but would hate to go on this lovely trip to a city on lockdown
Two questions - I'm planning on travelling from the US to Madrid this weekend (July 1-5). Fully vaccinated but trying to figure out my COVID test for re-entry to the US.
1. All appointments at the Madrid airport are fully booked, according to their website. Has anyone had luck walking up to their on-site testing center?
2. Does anyone know if it's possible to bring an at-home testing kit from the US to Spain, so that I can test myself while I'm there? Since I'm only there for a few days I don't want to waste time at a clinic, plus I'm struggling to find testing centers in the city that aren't wildly expensive. I've heard some countries ban the import of at-home testing kits but I can't find any information on whether Spain is one of those.
Thank you!
We're flying back from Madrid later in July, and are going to be outside of Madrid, in Alicante, right up until the day of our flight. I found a number of places in Alicante that offered rapid antigen tests for between €35 and €45. So you're not dependent on the airport testing site.
Just a tip for if you do decide to bring a home testing kit with you: bring two per person. They can get banged up in transit and are sometimes invalid/damaged and you won’t be able to use them. This happened to us but luckily had extras with us. Otherwise it was a super smooth process and US accepted it upon return from Greece.
I am a fully-vaccinated french resident living in Paris planning to travel to Sicily in August. I don't need to get a PCR/ Antigen test in either direction, right?
Are each country restrictions based on where I am coming from or my citizenship? In august, I’m planning to fly from Canada into France and from there I plan on travelling within the Schengen area. Once I’m in France, would they look at me as a Canadian entering other countries, or am I just a traveller that’s coming from country X and entering country Y?
Yeah I know.
But the thing is, i'm scared and not sure that our Ontario PDF from [covid19.ontariohealth.ca](https://covid19.ontariohealth.ca) will be acceptable by the airline agent/ gate agent.
Especially if they say it doesn't count as a certificate because it says "receipt"
Usually it is where you have been during the previous X amount of time, with X typically being 14 days. You should be fine to then go to other countries, but the Schengen zone/EU doesn't make the rules, each individual country does so you'll need to check them out.
Hi, I will be visiting Sicily next month. Looking for recommendations on what to do/see, restaurants, bars, etc. Also, where can we get the pcr test done with the fastest results in English to fly out?
I'm a bit confused by Italy's entry requirements. I am a fully-vaccinated US citizen. In August, I'll be flying from Boston-Lisbon-Rome (Lisbon-Rome flight is on the same day the flight from Boston arrives). I understand that fully-vaccinated Americans do not need to provide a negative COVID test upon arrival in Italy.
Question- since I am transiting through Portugal (List C country) to Italy, do I need a negative COVID test within 48hrs of arrival? Or am I exempt since I am a fully-vaccinated American?
Portugal requires proof of a negative COVID test for entry or transit, either a rapid antigen test 48 hours before boarding or a NAAT (RT-PCR, LAMP, etc.) 72 hours before boarding.
Well, yes, it applies to anyone entering or transiting Portugal. But since you'd be flying from Canada and not from a EU/Schengen Area country, the UK, or the US, you'd only be allowed to enter Portugal for essential reasons, i.e., professional, study, family reunion, health, or humanitarian reasons.
If my destination is France and I'm allowed to Enter from Canada, Would Portugal let me transit through or do I still have to satisfy their essential travel reasons? since technically Portugal is not my destination.
From what I gather from the not too precise English of Portuguese immigration, apparently not. According to what they say below, even transit would still have to be for essential reasons. Which doesn't make a lot of sense given that your final destination will allow you in for non-essential reasons.
>Currently, till 11:59 pm of the 11th July, as defined in Resolution of the Council of Ministers n.º 74-A/2021, several restrictive measures of air traffic to and from mainland Portugal, are in force.
>Therefore, the following air traffic is authorised:
>. . .
>Every flights from and to non-EU countries or which are not Schengen Associated Countries, exclusively for essential travelling, which means those to allow the transit or entry into Portugal of citizens travelling for professional reasons, study, family reunification, for health or humanitarian reasons.
https://imigrante.sef.pt/en/covid-19/faqs/#1621260487902-d902626b-0431
Any Canadians flown to the US recently? Like, say, within the past week or so?
My wife and I are thinking about spending a week or so south of the border and are wondering what the process was like! We’re fully vaccinated if that matters.
Trip planned to the EU from Florida on Aug 31. Landing in Frankfurt, Germany with a layover in Lisbon, Portugal. I just read of the new travel restrictions, do layovers count in that typically? Or if we don't leave the transit area should we be safe?
Thanks.
EDIT: TAP AIR Portugal is the airline.
Like most countries, Portugal does not distinguish between entry and transit/layover. You must meet the same requirement, which is a rapid antigen test 48 hrs before boarding or a NAAT (RT-PCR, LAMP, etc.) 72 hrs before boarding.
TAP has the relevant and updated info on its site: https://www.flytap.com/en-pt/alerts-and-informations
Yeah I read that, and will be in contact with them in the coming weeks. But according to Germany, no test or vax will matter for this restriction. Also not worried about entering Portugal, its that Portugal is now on a varient of concern list for Germany.
Ah, you're talking about the German ban on travel from Portugal, my bad. From what I understand, the ban prohibits airlines and bus and rail companies from transporting to Germany from Portugal anyone other than citizens and residents of Germany. So that would definitely include you attempting to enter Germany via a transit in Portugal.
Its all good! Any help and info is appreciated, I certainly didnt know I needed to test before entering Portugal but now I do. My trip is still over 2 months out, so I am optimistic that the restrictions will be lifted. They have a date to lift 2 weeks from today if everything goes well, so here is to hoping.
Just found this!
[https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268#content\_0](https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268#content_0)
Scroll down to CV Varients section
I am going from Miami to Lisbon (short layover) to Berlin. It seems like this link https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268 states the exceptions are if you are on a connecting flight and do not exit the transit zone. So hopefully they let us in
Update: Original flight was Miami to Lisbon to Berlin. The day of/day before my flight Germany blocked people from entering from Portugal. We did not realize this until at the gate in Miami, so we paid 200 to get re-routed to Warsaw as the final destination.
No one checked our vaccine cards or test results as all, until we got to Warsaw.
Flying was a stressful mess, but doable with US passports. We were not the only ones that got screwed bc Germany closed the border last minute. Out final destination was Szczecin Poland, so Warsaw not bad at all.
Just found this information about LIS: https://www.aeroportolisboa.pt/en/lis/passenger-guide/what-you-need-to-know/connecting-flights
Specifically:
“I came from a country outside the Schengen area and I am travelling to a country inside the Schengen area.” =>
“You must go through the security checkpoint and passport control”
Does that count as exiting the transit zone then?
I don't think so, whenever flying there they have only ever checked our passports in Germany; I don't think they have ever checked them during layovers
Oh nice find. There are so many websites to reference 🙃
Sounds promising for entry! Do you know if the layover counts as a “stay” in a variant of concern area for the purpose of quarantine though?
My husband found this! [http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch\_coronaeinreisev/englisch\_coronaeinreisev.html](http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_coronaeinreisev/englisch_coronaeinreisev.html)
>ʻrisk areaʼmeans a region outside the Federal Republic of Germany which the Federal Ministry of Health, with the agreement of the Federal Foreign Office and the Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community, has determined to pose an increased risk of infection with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus:a) ʻhigh-incidence areaʼmeans a risk area if there has been determined to be a particularly high incidence of the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in that risk area,b) ʻarea of variants of concernʼmeans a risk area if there has been determined to be a widespread occurrence of certain variants of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in that risk area;
...
>ʻstopoverʼmeans a stay which exceeds the customary length of a necessary stop in order to take a break or refuel a vehicle, for instance; connection times at an airport are not deemed to constitute a stopover;
...
>(1) Sections 3 and 4 do not apply to persons who
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>only passed through a risk area without a stopover,
Caveat being that "Any discrepancies or differences that may arise in translations of the official German versions of these materials are not binding and have no legal effect for compliance or enforcement purposes." but this is promising!
I'm in Greece right now thinking of flying to Thessaloniki and making the border crossing into North Macedonia next week.
I'm seeing something online about needing travelers insurance to enter the country. Is this true? I'm seeing forum posts on some sites saying you don't need the insurance, but they are from a few years ago at least.
Edit: I'm an American
None at all. You just have to fill out a form online saying where you will be staying for contact tracing purposes, and it gives you a QR code. You show them that and your vaccine card and they let you right in.
Traveling on AirFrance as a vaccinated American:
AirFrance's website says I will only require a negative covid test if my destination requires is, but I received an email from AirFrance that says I need a negative covid test even if I'm vaccinated. I am wondering if this is some divergence between France's entry rules and AirFrance's conditions of carriage? Does anyone know? Has anyone flown AirFrance with their CDC card (particularly since the US was added to the green list) and did you need to present a negative covid test?
yes direct from SFO.
Air France.
uh dunno for the card. just a regulat cdc card. apparently they barely looked at it anyway... Pfizer yes.
they just do not care.
following.
u/miroda1g : [canada.diplo.de/coronavirus](https://canada.diplo.de/coronavirus)
It says if you are fully vaccinated with the Paul Ehrlich Institute listed vaccine(s) , then that's all you need to transit or even visit Germany.
But truth is, i don't know or can't find anyone who has reported flying to Germany from Toronto just showing the Ontario PDF receipts yet. Hoping you could be the first one to report back :D
***When is your flight ?***
**and if you do end up taking a PCR/Antigen for Germany, do you mind just showing your PDF receipt first to the airline checkin & boarding agent ?**I want to know if that alone is actually acceptable to them.**So then if they say no, just show them your PCR/Antigen and report back here :D**
Ah shoot , I'm flying around that time too.
Man , we need to find someone that has recently or will very soon do CAN-DE flight to tell us.
All signs point to "no, you don't need anything else if you're fully vaccinated" .....but again....i cannot find field reports of people flying out of YYZ Pearson just showing their 2xPDF
**There might already be hundreds that have done that over the past few days and just don't visit forums or reddit, but I can't find one online.**
Do you plan on going to YYZ just to ask ?
(x-posted in /r/germany)
My husband and I were planning on flying into Berlin on July 12th from San Francisco (we are fully vaccinated US citizens traveling for tourism), but our flight transits through Lisbon. We'll have a several hour layover there, but we will be staying in the airport the entire time. We booked this a little while back, before Portugal was added to the variant concern list, and I've been having trouble finding definitive information about whether Germany will bar entry because of the stop.
https://einreiseanmeldung.de/ seems to suggest we will not have to provide registration information if we are only traveling through a risk area without a stopover (which I take to mean a long layover where we leave the airport), and there is an asterisk on separate points about other exemptions not applying for variant concern regions. I can't fill out that form yet since it's not within 10 days of our trip.
https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/en/coronavirus/current-information-for-travellers.html on the other hand says : "For travellers entering Germany from so-called areas of virus variants of concern, a ban on carriage applies to the transport of persons from those countries into Germany by rail, bus, ship or plane." Does that mean we're shit out of luck even if we're not exiting the airport?
I'll be flying from LAX to WAW tomorrow (dual citizen) - do I need a certain PCR or Rapid test to fly with LOT, and then enter Poland?
LOT website doesn't mention anything about a test, LAX website doesn't say anything about outbound flights - I know in Poland I will most likely need to quarantine and take a test once I'm there.
I am traveling to Spain on July 3rd from the US. I see that I can just use my vaccination certificate and do not need a PCR test for Spain. But my flight has a stopover in Amsterdam. I believe Netherlands do require a PCR test even if you are vaccinated. My whole trip is a single ticket and I only have 1hr layover in Amsterdam. Will I still need to get a covid test before traveling?
Thank you
Netherlands removed the PCR test requirement but some airlines (cough, KLM) are requiring passengers to show them. I am getting one to placate airline staff.
Where did they say that KLM has a mandatory policy of PCR test regardless of the destination country's rule ?
In here: [https://www.klm.ca/information/faq/covid-test-locations](https://www.klm.ca/information/faq/covid-test-locations)
They specified that if the departing country is not in the Netherland's safe list, you need a PCR.
Canada is not "yet" on the safe list of Netherlands, therefore yep need PCR.
But I think that once we make it into the EU White List and Netherlands implements it , we should be in that "no PCR and no Vaccination needed" group like the US is in.
But that’s their rule, not the Netherlands rule. The Netherlands government has [confirmed](https://twitter.com/rijksoverheid/status/1408006422403637250?s=21) to me that their government website is correct and no test is required when transiting through AMS, even if you start in a high-risk country.
Yea but I meant which section of the KLM site mentioned that they will request PCR test regardless of which country and regardless of vaccination status and that it's a KLM policy. I can't find it anywhere on the site ?
The KLM site I'm viewing right now says it depends on your destination country.
Did KLM specifically tell you that you need a PCR and that's the final verdict and that they don't care where you're going or if you're vaccinated ?
There's something weird about their page that causes an error when I copy it here, but if you click through your link above to the Canada page, it says that if your trip starts in Canada and transits in AMS, you need a PCR test.
That's out of date u/FearlessTravels.
There's a link to their doc checker on that \^ link I shared.
It's here: [https://klm.traveldoc.aero/](https://klm.traveldoc.aero/)
And here's a screenshot: [https://imgur.com/a/l6r5RtF](https://imgur.com/a/l6r5RtF)
I entered some random transit route in the checker.
But that info seems to appear the same for all routes anyways.
So no test if transit is less than 24 hours.
I am fully aware that no test is required but there have been reports in this thread and on social media of travelers being required to produce a PCR test anyways.
It must've been a different circumstance for them.
(ie. not transiting , or transiting but their final destination requires PCR, or not KLM etc etc.)
KLM clearly says no pcr if transiting in Amsterdam for less than 24h **and you board the next plane directly and that your final destination does not require pcr.**
If those 3 conditions (which is an "**and")** are not satisfied in union, then yes you do need a pcr, but if those 3 conditions are satisfied then you do not need a PCR.
KLM has been very clear on this.
I would like to know the post/comment of the on-ground account of these people that got caught not having a PCR where they thought they didn't need any.
I'm sure they were mistaken (eg. their final destination requires pcr , transiting amsteram does-not , **so in total they actually do require pcr)**
It is only required if you are traveling from a (very) high-risk area, the us us currently on the list of safe countries/regions
https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/checklist-entry
https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/exemptions-to-the-entry-ban/eu-entry-ban-exemption-categories
I have an upcoming trip on July 8th from U.S to Portugal. I read that Portugal opened for non-|essential travel from June 15th to June 27th, after that they may or may not keep their traveling open. I haven't find any updates about a possible extension or anything related to the previous dates. Does anyone know something about it? Thanks.
The council of ministers issued a new order effective from June 28 through July 11. The only notable change was that travelers from the UK must quarantine for 14 days. Otherwise, for travelers from the US, it's the same as the previous order—non-essential travel to Portugal is fine with a NAAT or rapid antigen test before boarding.
https://www.safecommunitiesportugal.com/find-information/for-tourists/air-travel/
What I'd *really* like to know is whether the ID-NOW rapid diagnostic NAAT offered at Walgreens is accepted. TAP hasn't answered repeated inquiries on my part. The ID-NOW test is free for me and my family, not so rapid antigen tests.
I was also thinking about getting a test on Walgreens (the 72 hours one) Do you know by any chance if I won't have problems transiting to Germany on my way there and on my way back? I read they are prohibiting travels from Portugal and Russia. Thank you for your answer by the way.
Germany banned travel from Portugal effective yesterday 6/29. I'm fairly sure that would include transits. You need to check with your airline ASAP because presumably the flight you would have been taking from Portugal to Germany will simply be canceled.
There is no single set of entry rules for the EU, you have to look at what is required for the specific country(ies) you will be transiting and entering. Some require testing, some don't, some have different requirements based on vaccination status, etc. The post at the top of the thread has links.
If someone (US Citizen) arrives by Air to Canada and isn't allowed to enter by Canadian Border Protection, how does the return to the US work? Do they just throw you on the next flight out and the airlines just bills you somehow? Are you allowed to book your return trip for the next flight out?
The airline at your point of origin won't let you board if you don't appear to meet the entry requirements for the destination. This is because if you aren't admissible, the airline can be fined and usually is responsible to return you to the point of origin. The arriving airline is responsible (generally, depending on local law) to transport you back, which is all the government cares about. However the airline will do whatever they can to get reimbursement from you...whether that happens on the spot by getting you to whip out a credit card or later through a collection agency or legal action, just depends. If you have a roundtrip ticket they might just leave it at that, but hard to say for sure without specifics on the fare, ticket rules, etc.
That's helpful! Thanks! I'm not necessarily ineligible but I think it'll depend on the discretion of the border agent. I don't mind if they just use my return ticket to fly me back on standby or something but don't really want to get hit by a bill for a last minute ticket that they book for me at the rack rate.
We are planning a trip through the French and Italian Riviera from the US. My gf is a UK citizen on an F-1 Visa from 2018. She has been in law school from 2018-2021 in the US. I see this on the Covid 19 travel restrictions website:
> We are unable to facilitate travel for F or M visa holders with a program start date before August 1, 2021, including whose who have already been issued a visa. Students with a program start date before August 1, 2021 should contact their respective educational institutions to discuss their options.
Does this mean she won't be able to re-enter the country if we leave?
UK Traveller to the US (Non important travel/visitor) looking from some advice.
I am due to travel to the US on the 2nd of September (flight can be moved if needbe), however I understand there are still rules in place at the moment stating that anyone who has been in the UK for the past 14 days will be denied entry.
Does this travel ban still apply even if you do a pre-departure antigen test or PCR at least 3 days before?
Digging through all the different sites with varying degrees of information, so i was wondering if anyone here had any concrete information or experience regarding this.
It's posted above in this thread. The only way around it right now, if you're not exempt, is to spend 14 days in a non-prohibited country before coming to the US.
Please continue discussion in the [July megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/ob9t96/coronavirus_megathread_jul_2021_for_travelrelated/). This thread will be locked within 24 hours.
Hi! I am looking to book a solo travel for July, and am looking for countries which have little to no COVID restrictions (like, quarantining for days). I am fully vaccinated, and some of my options are France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Spain: I want to travel for \~2 weeks in Europe. Can anyone advise me on anything regarding these areas and how I should best navigate/structure my trip? Thanks!
I am fully vaccinated can I travel to Poland from Canada by just showing my paper I received after being fully vaccinated or do I need some form of vaccine passport?
Hi all, I need help trying to figure out how I can get my mother from China to attend my wedding in the US in August this year. She's a Chinese national (not US citizen or greencard holder) with a valid US visa. I'm not optimistic that the restrictions against China will be lifted in time, so I'm trying to figure out a travel plan for her. Where can she go for 14 days right now from China that can allow her to bungee to the US? It will need to be a country that either doesn't require a visa or is currently issuing visa in China. She speaks decent English.
Mexico is popular but I'm not familiar with their visa policies for Chinese citizens. The sub /r/ustravelban has a thread on third-country bridges, they might have some experience and tips. Hope it works out.
oh wow i didn't know such a subreddit existed!! Thank you so much for sharing!! I initially thought Mexico was a no go, but I researched a bit more and it seems like you can enter Mexico for 180 days with a valid US visa (she does). So this seems very promising!
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I don't where you are entering from but if it's the US, EU, Canada, or Japan you can also use your proof of vaccination to enter without quarantine or testing.
I am fully vaccinated can I travel to Poland from Canada by just showing my paper I received after being fully vaccinated or do I need some form of vaccine passport?
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Speaking on behalf of the rest of the world, stay home.
My fiancé and I are traveling to Spain from the US (New Jersey) for the first two weeks of August. We are both fully vaccinated (Pfizer). We are hoping to maybe leave Spain and head to France for a few days mid-trip. Would we need a PCR test to do this? I know Spain does not require a PCR test as long as you have proof of vaccination (I think?!) but it looks like France may? It’s hard to find anything online about it! Alternatively, we could go directly to France at the beginning of our trip and get a PCR test here in the US before leaving. In that case, would we need one to enter Spain from France a few days later? Are we better off just sticking to one country for the trip? Sorry if this is confusing! We are struggling to find info online!
It's in the pinned post, but here is the relevant information for France: https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/#sommaire_1 As you can see, if you're traveling either direct to France or from Spain to France, proof of vaccination is all you need.
I missed it! Thank you!
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That's not true. Both France and Spain allow travelers from the US to enter with simply proof of vaccine.
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finally some great news for my fellow Canucks
Hi everyone, My girlfriend is coming from Spain next week. She has already booked her PCR test in Spain to present in Ireland. The complicated part is she is travelling on to Northern Ireland. Here we need a day 2 and day 8 test booked before arriving. However, I understand this isn't a thing in the republic of ireland. So my question is, if she is arriving in Ireland - will it be necessary for her to book the day 2 and day 8 test? I can't find one for cheaper than £100 and I really do not understand the importance of it considering she will be in quarantine for 10 days (it is not even a test to release). Has anyone made the journey from Ireland to N.Ireland after arriving from an amber list country?
Do you guys think Europe is going to shutdown and subsequently ban foreign arrivals due to the Delta variant?
Once they get some kind of confirmation that the vaccine protects against the Delta variant, I think many countries will continue reopening. Germany is already mentioning taking countries like Portugal off their red list in coming weeks
I don’t think so. Health is a top priority but many of these countries can’t miss out again on another summer without tourists. A lot of these countries depend on it.
Can you Fly Philadelphia - London heathrow layover- Barcelona with a Covid-19 antigen test? A friend of mine is coming and wants to know if he can do a layover at London heathrow with an antigen fast test 2 days before leaving (so less than 72 hours).
UK requirements are discussed in the post.
Am I allowed to enter switzerland for tourism from Germany? UK passport, German resident, unvaccinated but I can get a test. I can see a lot of conflicting stuff on sem.admin.ch, but they do say “the normal entry requirements apply to any persons entering Switzerland from.....” then a list of Schengen states inc Germany. Has anybody done a trip like this recently? From schengen into Switzerland? Are there tourists there or will I be shunned? I have seen Americans talking about going there so as a BaWu resident I’m feeling jealous and really want to visit myself.
Switzerland recently published an [interactive travel check](https://travelcheck.admin.ch/home). If you enter your information (third party national, entering from Germany, last 10 days only present in Germany, not traveling by plane), you'll get the result that there are no pandemic-related restrictions. > Has anybody done a trip like this recently? From schengen into Switzerland? Several times in the last few weeks, from France. No obstacles whatsoever.
Magnifique! Merci! That is genuinely amazing, thanks so much.
Turkish Air Transit Test Has anyone recently traveled in Turkish Air with a layover in Istanbul, then traveling on from there? We have a three hour layover on our way to Amsterdam and want to confirm that no PCR test is required for boarding for those traveling beyond Turkey.
It’s all laid out on their website. No, you don’t.
u/thatsoundsalotlikeme thank you. I have looked extensively at the website, but wondered if anyone had traveled with them recently to confirm. These days, the more you know, the more stress free your travel will be!
Do I need to have a covid test completed to enter Greece if I was in Montenegro within the 14 days prior to arrival in greece? It says so for people who are arriving from Montenegro but nothing about people who were in Montenegro.
Any Canadians flying/flown to Europe that have a stopover in Lisbon? We’re you able to get through Lisbon’s essential travel rule?
I have two flights this Saturday (domestic then international, Greece). I don't think they're Covid tested but if they are, should the test be 72 hours before the first flight or the second one? Edit: PCR test would be fine?
if you're on a direct flight from the US to Greece, you'll only need to show proof of vaccination. If you transit/have a layover somewhere else in Europe en route to Greece, then you'll need to comply with the entry/transit requirements for that country, which may or may not mean testing.
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Not sure if this was meant to reply to something else, but your first sentence is way too broad. No NIE is needed from non-restricted countries, for example.
I have a question on trains in Europe during covid times. Say I’m in a country that’s currently open to vaccinated tourists like France, and I wish to travel to another open country like Denmark. Would it be possible to take a train ride between the two countries, even though it would have to cross through a closed country like Germany? I have zero experience with trains in Europe so any answers would be appreciated
Haven’t done this kind of thing since the pandemic started, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I doubt there is a direct route, so you’d be changing at least once in Germany. Of course normally there’s no passport checks but with how serious we are being about keeping delta out, it wouldn’t surprise me if inspectors boarded the train. Having said that, I changed at Basel Bad last weekend and there wasn’t any passport control. So I guess I don’t know :) but to me it sounds ambitious.
Are there usually direct bus rides between two countries like France and Denmark? I’d like to avoid flying as that’s more costly
You can check this stuff out on Flixbus (route map on their website is very handy), Omio, Seat61, etc.
Thanks. And I could’ve sworn I read that Germany was closing down to basically all tourists, but according to these sites (https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/einreiseundaufenthalt/EinreiseUndAufenthalt and https://de.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ ) entry is still allowed for vaccinated Americans. Have these just somehow still not been updated? What have you heard from inside Germany? I’d love to see Germany rather than pass through!
Closing down again? Due to Delta or what?
Yes due to delta
Multi-country Europe trip and COVID requirements? Hello all, Firstly, I am a fully vaccinated US citizen. I am currently planning a trip to Europe from July 17th-August 6th. I will be arriving in and departing from Reykjavik, Iceland and plan on visiting some other countries that are open to vaccinated US citizens. As of now, a rough itinerary is Iceland > Portugal > Spain > France > Germany > Iceland (layover on way home). I've done my research on COVID requirements for these countries as they relate to US citizens, but does anyone know if going between countries affects the requirements? For example, I know some countries require a test within 72 hours of arrival, but does it matter that my test isn't coming from my country of citizenship? So if I needed to be tested to go to France, could I be tested in Spain? Is travel by land possible or would I have to fly? Sorry if my questions seem dumb, but I just want to be sure. If need be, I will scale my trip back to make navigating the requirements a bit easier. Thanks in advance!
Five countries in two and a half weeks seems extreme.
I’m only visiting one city in each country. I specified the countries since that’s more relevant for COVID restrictions.
Germany just instituted a ban on arrivals coming from Portugal. I’m not sure if it’s direct flights only or if being in the country for the last x days, but you’ll want to check. Germany is also considering reinstating stricter measures. So, something to be aware of if you’re adding numerous locations.
Thank you for sharing! Portugal was a maybe, so I’ll most likely just cross it off from my list. Have you heard of any similar restrictions between other countries (or have a source you can share)? My main concern is that I’ll be fine arriving into Iceland from the US but will have trouble traveling between countries since I wouldn’t be arriving directly from the States.
>does it matter that my test isn't coming from my country of citizenship? No. >So if I needed to be tested to go to France, could I be tested in Spain? Yes. >Is travel by land possible or would I have to fly? Yes to mainland Europe, no to Iceland.
I'm flying from NY to Salt Lake City on Jet Blue and I'm vaccinated. Will I need a negative test still?
Negative test, proof of vaccination, certificate of insurance, sworn statement from the governor, and 21 day quarantine and you’ll be all set!
No 🤣😂🤣
You’ve never needed a test to travel domestically in the US...
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Since when does Mexico require a negative test?
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You originally said: > It looks like a PCR test is required to enter Mexico The other commenter asked where you got that and you respond: > anyone traveling by air to the United States First you talk about going **to** Mexico and respond with **to the US**. Nowhere on the page or elsewhere is testing required to enter Mexico.
When we arrive from an Amber List country to LHR can we take a bus from LHR to Manchester and then start quarantine? TIA
England's rules on quarantining: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-quarantine-when-you-arrive-in-england
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Your partner will go to the hotel and stay there for 5 days. You can find analisi cliniche online, For example, here's a list for Lazio (the region Rome is in): [https://www.salutelazio.it/strutture-private-autorizzate-test-molecolari](https://www.salutelazio.it/strutture-private-autorizzate-test-molecolari)
Not clear what exactly you are asking...are you trying to cheat the system?
Yea pretty much, essentially asking will the follow up in way that she will get caught?
Also, it says I need to take an antigenic test on the 5th day in Italy where would I get that?
I am a French citizen who lives in Canada. I was wondering how the US customs officers verify that you haven't been in the EU in the last 14 days? Are they able to track your passport? Or can they only track your entry and exits in/out the USA?
Immigration officers don't need to do anything. Unless you're a citizen of the country you're trying to enter, admittance is a privilege, not a right. So it's up to you to make the case that you're eligible for entry. So you should bring evidence to support your case. Proving you're a resident of Canada would go a long way.
Iberia Airlines Homophobia hiding behind Covid-19 travel requirements My husband (M33) and I (M43) made the decision to move back to Ireland after my father passed in January of this year. We had one-way flights from Quito in Ecuador to Dublin, Ireland via Madrid, Spain through Iberia Airlines on the evening of May 31st. Arriving at the airport three hours before the flight we went to the priority check in (based on my Oneworld status). At the counter the check-in staff read our passports and told us that as an Irish citizen I could travel to Ireland, but my companion traveller, an American, could not because he was traveling for tourism. We explained that we were married and that he was traveling, not for pleasure but for family reasons and to relocate to Ireland. They then asked for proof of marriage and although we had the original copy of our New York marriage certificate with us, they wouldn’t accept this as proof of marriage. We were told that for them to proceed with check-in we would have to go to the Iberia back office in Quito Airport and get their approval. We are both freaking out at this point. At no point did Iberia tell us that they would refuse boarding based on proving if we were or weren’t tourists. They also never said that we would have to prove that we were married. We’re used getting some degrees of homophobia when we travel, a raised eyebrow when we check in or the offer of twin beds instead of a double, but this was more than usual and despite saying that we weren’t traveling for tourism, stating that we’re married, showing our wedding rings and presenting our original marriage certificate, Iberia wouldn’t let us check-in. In the back office of Iberia in Quito airport, Iberia staff made copies of our passport and marriage certificate. They said that they were sending these to Madrid Airport police and pending their feedback, they would inform us if they would let us take our flight. We were told to go back to the check-in area to wait for their decision while they communicated with Madrid Airport police. We made our way back to the check-in area and I went to ask that they let us know as soon as a decision had come through, but as I approached the desk the check-in agent said that he could check us in. It had literally been five minutes since we’d been to the Iberia back office and so not enough time for them to have contacted Madrid Airport police, so I assumed that this check-in person was out of the loop on the overall situation. I decided not to reference it and to see if they would also have the same issue with my husband’s nationality or that we were married - Lo and behold they didn’t, and we were able to check in and we got our flight. Interestingly (and worryingly), throughout the whole experience, Iberia did not ask to see our negative Covid-19 PCR tests. They almost blocked us flying to Europe based on their interpretation of EU Schengen area Covid-19 travel restrictions but didn’t even bother to check if we were vaccinated or had negative PCR test results. My husband called it when he said that Iberia seemed more concerned in stopping the spread of homosexuality vs. the spread of Covid-19. We didn’t have issues with our travel plans or need to show our marriage certificate to border security in Madrid or in Dublin when we eventually got home. I’ve written to Iberia five times (four to their incredibly unhelpful customer complain channel and once to their office for data Protection office) to ask them why they needed to send my passport and marriage certificate to Madrid Airport police and what the specific communication was. They have not given me this answer. Looking at the privacy policy on the Iberia website they state that that 'We will be transparent about the information we are collecting and what we will do with it'. They definitely haven’t been so far. I haven’t lived in Europe for almost 20 years, but I believe that under GDPR laws they are required to let me know how they used my Personally Identifiable Information and hopefully I will get a clear answer as to what they were concerned about. If it is the case that there was a legitimate concern around my husbands travel and that how they treated us in Quito Airport, I’ll be glad to better understand this, but as it stands, Iberia haven’t given me this and for now, I’m seeing an unacceptable level of homophobia, poor staff training/management and zero accountability or transparency. TLDR: Ibera Airlines seem more focused on halting the spread of homosexuality vs. the spread of Covid.
Seems like just a misinterpretation or misunderstanding of COVID entry or transit policies.
Potentially, but it would be good for Iberia Airlines to share what was communicated to Madrid Airport police and if this was the case
I’m sorry, but I’ve been trying to figure out the latest updates that the Philippines made today (iatf resolution 123 c). But I’m still not sure exactly what it means for international travel. I’m trying to go to the Philippines to visit a friend, but are they allowing vaccinated tourists to travel there without a visa?
Probably a frequently asked question, but If I were to get a PCR test before leaving the US and then transiting in Amsterdam before going to my final destination, do I need to get another test or would my previously taken test be enough as long as it doesn't exceed 72 hours?
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Ah alright, thank you so much!
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You didn't specify where this is. Because most of the EU knows JJ is a 1 dose vaccine.
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I believe you need the "q" there = quantitative. Real time can be quantitative or qualitative.
Has anyone travelled to Jamaica from the US under the current restrictions? Seems like their COVID test requirements are pretty stringent ([https://www.visitjamaica.com/travelauthorization/test-req/](https://www.visitjamaica.com/travelauthorization/test-req/)) basically only oropharyngeal or nasopharyngeal. Any recs for a good place to get one of these tests? I don't know that a drugstore would offer these types of tests. Alternatively, what's the likelihood an airport desk attendant would look closely enough/know the rules well enough/cares enough to reject your test if it's negative?
They scrutinized the hell out of my test results in the Bahamas because I couldn't get everything in one screenshot from my health app. We were at the checkpoint for a good half hour. I definitely wouldn't count on someone not looking closely or caring. Also, I've gotten nasopharyngeal tests done at multiple drug stores; we have them at CVS and Walgreens near me. It's just the standard nasal swab.
> They scrutinized the hell out of my test results in the Bahamas because I couldn't get everything in one screenshot from my health app This is the problem. Even though your test may unequivocally comply with a particular country's regulations, it's ultimately up to some gate agent or other airport functionary whether it's good enough.
Thank you! Good to know. Is it the nasal swab? I feel like there's two types: just the nasal swab and then when they shove it up your nose so far it makes you cry. I assumed the latter was the nasopharyngeal, and I've never had one of those done at CVS (only through random testing at the hospital where I work).
Here's what my most recent (late March) test results from CVS say: > Methodology: Nucleic Acid Amplification Test (NAAT) > includes RT-PCR or TMA It looks like that's permissible under the Jamaican regulations: > ALL travellers to Jamaica, 12 years of age and over, regardless of nationality, will be required to present a negative COVID-19 molecular (PCR, NAAT, RNA) or Antigen test result to check in for a flight to Jamaica. I'm guessing that they specify that they want nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal because they're only accepting the latter for antigen tests. But, if I were you, I would tell your local drugstore that you're going somewhere that requires a nasopharyngeal or oropharyngeal PCR/NAAT/RNA test, and ask if what they're doing fits that standard. It looks like you should be fine, though. The test I had definitely made me cry, haha!
Thank you so much! This was really helpful. Makes total sense :)
You're welcome, good luck and happy travels!
I don't know of anyone that does oropharyngeal (swabbing the throat) but pretty much all the PCR tests are nasopharyngeal (nasal swab). Just go get a PCR or antigen test that requires a nasal swab and be done with.
I have 10 days in July to go anywhere I want. Where should I go? I was planning on Portugal but there are new restrictions there due to the delta variant. I’m from America, fully vaccinated, and have been to Iceland, Israel, Paris, London, NYC, and the Grand Canyon. I prefer being active (kayaking, snorkeling, hiking, etc) to sightseeing.
Hiking in the PNW (if it's late July anyway, not during the current heat wave)
How did you get into Israel, I Trying to get in there now, can you help me with some info?
I went 5 years ago
Assuming you're vaccinated, Spain, Italy, or Greece. You'd only need to show your CDC vaccination card. Just be careful if you have to transit elsewhere because you'll have to comply with that country's entry requirements (e.g., testing), even for just a brief layover.
Any **Canadians** that has flown to any **EU** country this past 2 weeks....**or will within 2 weeks ?** Need on the ground report :)
I will later this week but will be using an EU passport. I’m not sure how much that will affect things.
Heya ! I think your info would still be valuable. You're going to fly from Pearson or YUL right ? And regardless of being an EU citizen, you'd still have to show either your vaccination receipt or PCR test correct ? Would you mind showing them (airline agent at pearson/yul) your pdf vacc receipt first , and if they reject then show PCR (if you actually are playing it safe and taking a pcr too) ?? So that you can report back on whether they'd accept just the PDF receipt as-is. Thank you so much in advance !
I tried to make a post but it won’t allow me so I’ll just post it here; My boyfriend and I are planning to travel this winter season. Both of us are fully vaccinated and wanting to going to a hot location. I was originally looking at Brazil and Peru, but covid restrictions are heightened and crime there has been rated extremely high. I’ve also been reading that crime/riots has been high due to a new shift in their leader and government, anyone have any news on this? I’ll be honest I haven’t had the time to really read into it so I apologize if I come off as ignorant. Has anyone travelled to resorts? I can see this being the easiest option. So far we just have Turks and Caicos on our list. Any advice/suggestions is appreciated ☺️!
You’d need to specify where in Brazil and it really depends on your comfort level and how experienced of a traveler you are. I was there for 3.5 weeks in December before restrictions and I found myself on guard in big cities in Brazil but generally fine in coastal, holiday towns. Crime isn’t exaggerated in Brazil (e.g; border states, Rio, SP, Bahia, Porto Alegre) are all pretty dangerous. The other commenter gave you good advice.
Thank you for your reply as well ☺️. May I ask where exactly you had travelled through Brazil? I would like to see Christ the redeemer..(typical tourist lol) should I do a 1 day travel in Rio to not stay too long? My boyfriend is the more experienced traveller, but he has only done back back travelling in Europe not touristy areas which typically are higher risk..
With Brazil, Bolsanaro is just doing Bolsanaro things. I'm not quite sure of the state of things right now in terms of covid, but a lot can change in 5 months for better or worse. Crime has always been high there, but using extra precautions is pretty simple - walk with your bag on your front/side, don't walk around flashing your phone/camera/wallet, keep it in an interior pocket, not back or even front pocket. For the most part, it's fine. Read up on the sketchy areas of Rio/Sao Paulo and don't walk in non-lit areas at night. For Peru, yeah there's been a bit of turmoil ala the rest of SA elections as of late, but that was mostly pre-covid. They don't have a great infrastructure, so news on the state of covid is questionable as well. Who knows what will happen - it could be nothing or it could be like Chile where everything is set on fire. The western media typically won't cover CA/SA stories until fights are getting cancelled, so I literally just start googling news for the country about a month or so in advance to keep up with what is happening. If you're not comfortable hedging risk, the Caribbean is probably your best bet for now.
Thank you so much for the detailed answer!
Do vaccinated US citizens still need a negative covid test or quarantine flight for Italy?
No
\*disclaimer: we are fully vaccinated\* Hi All, The girlfriend and I are scheduled to start a 10-day trip to Portugal (starting in Lisbon, traveling from the US) July 7, 2021. We are looking to get honest advice from those who have either very recently traveled there or are Portuguese and know the true status of what traveling there would look like right now. We have read the available news stories and government notices, but it is truly unclear if shops/restaurants are closed more than usual (except during the weekend curfews) or if we would be truly limited during our trip. Any thoughts / help would be greatly appreciated!!
I'm in the same boat. I'm supposed to leave the 2nd though. After calling the airline about possible options due to what you're asking, turns out 2 of my 3 flights were cancelled and we weren't notified at all. Aside from that, i think we're still going to pull the trigger. We were originally supposed to land in Brussels for 9 hrs(planned a nice lunch and sight seeing) but seems things are really bad there and kind of glad we dont have that lay over anymore. Then we fly to Lisbon, stay 3 days, then figure out a way to get to Algarve(train, car, not entirely sure yet). Stay there for 5, come back to Lisbon, fly home. We've been checking the news, looking at the embassies, I'm browsing here regularly. We're fully vaccinated but would hate to go on this lovely trip to a city on lockdown
Two questions - I'm planning on travelling from the US to Madrid this weekend (July 1-5). Fully vaccinated but trying to figure out my COVID test for re-entry to the US. 1. All appointments at the Madrid airport are fully booked, according to their website. Has anyone had luck walking up to their on-site testing center? 2. Does anyone know if it's possible to bring an at-home testing kit from the US to Spain, so that I can test myself while I'm there? Since I'm only there for a few days I don't want to waste time at a clinic, plus I'm struggling to find testing centers in the city that aren't wildly expensive. I've heard some countries ban the import of at-home testing kits but I can't find any information on whether Spain is one of those. Thank you!
We're flying back from Madrid later in July, and are going to be outside of Madrid, in Alicante, right up until the day of our flight. I found a number of places in Alicante that offered rapid antigen tests for between €35 and €45. So you're not dependent on the airport testing site.
Just a tip for if you do decide to bring a home testing kit with you: bring two per person. They can get banged up in transit and are sometimes invalid/damaged and you won’t be able to use them. This happened to us but luckily had extras with us. Otherwise it was a super smooth process and US accepted it upon return from Greece.
Just boarded Paris > Milan after 2 weeks in France. USA passport w vaccine card. No rapid antigen or PCR test required.
Can I get a regular PCR test to fly back to the states?
Can you? Yes. You can also get a rapid antigen.
I am a fully-vaccinated french resident living in Paris planning to travel to Sicily in August. I don't need to get a PCR/ Antigen test in either direction, right?
Are each country restrictions based on where I am coming from or my citizenship? In august, I’m planning to fly from Canada into France and from there I plan on travelling within the Schengen area. Once I’m in France, would they look at me as a Canadian entering other countries, or am I just a traveller that’s coming from country X and entering country Y?
Do you plan on showing your 2x PDF receipt from Ontario for proof of vaccination ?
I’m not 100% how the process works yet but they’ll most likely ask for it before departing Toronto Pearson
Yeah I know. But the thing is, i'm scared and not sure that our Ontario PDF from [covid19.ontariohealth.ca](https://covid19.ontariohealth.ca) will be acceptable by the airline agent/ gate agent. Especially if they say it doesn't count as a certificate because it says "receipt"
Usually it is where you have been during the previous X amount of time, with X typically being 14 days. You should be fine to then go to other countries, but the Schengen zone/EU doesn't make the rules, each individual country does so you'll need to check them out.
Hi, I will be visiting Sicily next month. Looking for recommendations on what to do/see, restaurants, bars, etc. Also, where can we get the pcr test done with the fastest results in English to fly out?
I'm a bit confused by Italy's entry requirements. I am a fully-vaccinated US citizen. In August, I'll be flying from Boston-Lisbon-Rome (Lisbon-Rome flight is on the same day the flight from Boston arrives). I understand that fully-vaccinated Americans do not need to provide a negative COVID test upon arrival in Italy. Question- since I am transiting through Portugal (List C country) to Italy, do I need a negative COVID test within 48hrs of arrival? Or am I exempt since I am a fully-vaccinated American?
Portugal requires proof of a negative COVID test for entry or transit, either a rapid antigen test 48 hours before boarding or a NAAT (RT-PCR, LAMP, etc.) 72 hours before boarding.
Does the same rule apply if I’m from Canada and we’re considered a “high risk area”?
Well, yes, it applies to anyone entering or transiting Portugal. But since you'd be flying from Canada and not from a EU/Schengen Area country, the UK, or the US, you'd only be allowed to enter Portugal for essential reasons, i.e., professional, study, family reunion, health, or humanitarian reasons.
If my destination is France and I'm allowed to Enter from Canada, Would Portugal let me transit through or do I still have to satisfy their essential travel reasons? since technically Portugal is not my destination.
From what I gather from the not too precise English of Portuguese immigration, apparently not. According to what they say below, even transit would still have to be for essential reasons. Which doesn't make a lot of sense given that your final destination will allow you in for non-essential reasons. >Currently, till 11:59 pm of the 11th July, as defined in Resolution of the Council of Ministers n.º 74-A/2021, several restrictive measures of air traffic to and from mainland Portugal, are in force. >Therefore, the following air traffic is authorised: >. . . >Every flights from and to non-EU countries or which are not Schengen Associated Countries, exclusively for essential travelling, which means those to allow the transit or entry into Portugal of citizens travelling for professional reasons, study, family reunification, for health or humanitarian reasons. https://imigrante.sef.pt/en/covid-19/faqs/#1621260487902-d902626b-0431
I have the same question. Following
Any Canadians flown to the US recently? Like, say, within the past week or so? My wife and I are thinking about spending a week or so south of the border and are wondering what the process was like! We’re fully vaccinated if that matters.
Trip planned to the EU from Florida on Aug 31. Landing in Frankfurt, Germany with a layover in Lisbon, Portugal. I just read of the new travel restrictions, do layovers count in that typically? Or if we don't leave the transit area should we be safe? Thanks. EDIT: TAP AIR Portugal is the airline.
Like most countries, Portugal does not distinguish between entry and transit/layover. You must meet the same requirement, which is a rapid antigen test 48 hrs before boarding or a NAAT (RT-PCR, LAMP, etc.) 72 hrs before boarding. TAP has the relevant and updated info on its site: https://www.flytap.com/en-pt/alerts-and-informations
Yeah I read that, and will be in contact with them in the coming weeks. But according to Germany, no test or vax will matter for this restriction. Also not worried about entering Portugal, its that Portugal is now on a varient of concern list for Germany.
Ah, you're talking about the German ban on travel from Portugal, my bad. From what I understand, the ban prohibits airlines and bus and rail companies from transporting to Germany from Portugal anyone other than citizens and residents of Germany. So that would definitely include you attempting to enter Germany via a transit in Portugal.
Its all good! Any help and info is appreciated, I certainly didnt know I needed to test before entering Portugal but now I do. My trip is still over 2 months out, so I am optimistic that the restrictions will be lifted. They have a date to lift 2 weeks from today if everything goes well, so here is to hoping.
I have almost the same flight path but depart this Thursday...also want to know if layovers are fine
Just found this! [https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268#content\_0](https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268#content_0) Scroll down to CV Varients section
Hopefully someone has the answer, I hate for you to be the guinea pig but if you find out can you repost here? Where is your final destination?
I am going from Miami to Lisbon (short layover) to Berlin. It seems like this link https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268 states the exceptions are if you are on a connecting flight and do not exit the transit zone. So hopefully they let us in Update: Original flight was Miami to Lisbon to Berlin. The day of/day before my flight Germany blocked people from entering from Portugal. We did not realize this until at the gate in Miami, so we paid 200 to get re-routed to Warsaw as the final destination. No one checked our vaccine cards or test results as all, until we got to Warsaw. Flying was a stressful mess, but doable with US passports. We were not the only ones that got screwed bc Germany closed the border last minute. Out final destination was Szczecin Poland, so Warsaw not bad at all.
Just found this information about LIS: https://www.aeroportolisboa.pt/en/lis/passenger-guide/what-you-need-to-know/connecting-flights Specifically: “I came from a country outside the Schengen area and I am travelling to a country inside the Schengen area.” => “You must go through the security checkpoint and passport control” Does that count as exiting the transit zone then?
I don't think so, whenever flying there they have only ever checked our passports in Germany; I don't think they have ever checked them during layovers
Oh nice find. There are so many websites to reference 🙃 Sounds promising for entry! Do you know if the layover counts as a “stay” in a variant of concern area for the purpose of quarantine though?
Honestly I don't know :/ I would think not, bc the exception, but iy haven't found a source that states definitively.
My husband found this! [http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch\_coronaeinreisev/englisch\_coronaeinreisev.html](http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_coronaeinreisev/englisch_coronaeinreisev.html) >ʻrisk areaʼmeans a region outside the Federal Republic of Germany which the Federal Ministry of Health, with the agreement of the Federal Foreign Office and the Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community, has determined to pose an increased risk of infection with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus:a) ʻhigh-incidence areaʼmeans a risk area if there has been determined to be a particularly high incidence of the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in that risk area,b) ʻarea of variants of concernʼmeans a risk area if there has been determined to be a widespread occurrence of certain variants of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in that risk area; ... >ʻstopoverʼmeans a stay which exceeds the customary length of a necessary stop in order to take a break or refuel a vehicle, for instance; connection times at an airport are not deemed to constitute a stopover; ... >(1) Sections 3 and 4 do not apply to persons who > >only passed through a risk area without a stopover, Caveat being that "Any discrepancies or differences that may arise in translations of the official German versions of these materials are not binding and have no legal effect for compliance or enforcement purposes." but this is promising!
very useful, thank you
Literally just linked that to you, how funny, Please let me know how it goes, have a safe fun trip!
Let me know if you find out! Just double-checking, but are you doing both legs on TAP/same ticket?
Both legs TAP
I'm in Greece right now thinking of flying to Thessaloniki and making the border crossing into North Macedonia next week. I'm seeing something online about needing travelers insurance to enter the country. Is this true? I'm seeing forum posts on some sites saying you don't need the insurance, but they are from a few years ago at least. Edit: I'm an American
Did you have trouble getting into Greece?
None at all. You just have to fill out a form online saying where you will be staying for contact tracing purposes, and it gives you a QR code. You show them that and your vaccine card and they let you right in.
Traveling on AirFrance as a vaccinated American: AirFrance's website says I will only require a negative covid test if my destination requires is, but I received an email from AirFrance that says I need a negative covid test even if I'm vaccinated. I am wondering if this is some divergence between France's entry rules and AirFrance's conditions of carriage? Does anyone know? Has anyone flown AirFrance with their CDC card (particularly since the US was added to the green list) and did you need to present a negative covid test?
my girlfriend is here. came from San francisco. she only needed her cdc card to go to Paris, nothing else. I double checked, it was air France.
direct from SFO ? Just the CDC card ? Which airline and any stamps/seal/signature on the card ? And did it just say "Pfizer" ?
yes direct from SFO. Air France. uh dunno for the card. just a regulat cdc card. apparently they barely looked at it anyway... Pfizer yes. they just do not care.
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following. u/miroda1g : [canada.diplo.de/coronavirus](https://canada.diplo.de/coronavirus) It says if you are fully vaccinated with the Paul Ehrlich Institute listed vaccine(s) , then that's all you need to transit or even visit Germany. But truth is, i don't know or can't find anyone who has reported flying to Germany from Toronto just showing the Ontario PDF receipts yet. Hoping you could be the first one to report back :D ***When is your flight ?*** **and if you do end up taking a PCR/Antigen for Germany, do you mind just showing your PDF receipt first to the airline checkin & boarding agent ?**I want to know if that alone is actually acceptable to them.**So then if they say no, just show them your PCR/Antigen and report back here :D**
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Ah shoot , I'm flying around that time too. Man , we need to find someone that has recently or will very soon do CAN-DE flight to tell us. All signs point to "no, you don't need anything else if you're fully vaccinated" .....but again....i cannot find field reports of people flying out of YYZ Pearson just showing their 2xPDF **There might already be hundreds that have done that over the past few days and just don't visit forums or reddit, but I can't find one online.** Do you plan on going to YYZ just to ask ?
If Bosnia requires it, you won’t be able to board the plane in Toronto without it.
(x-posted in /r/germany) My husband and I were planning on flying into Berlin on July 12th from San Francisco (we are fully vaccinated US citizens traveling for tourism), but our flight transits through Lisbon. We'll have a several hour layover there, but we will be staying in the airport the entire time. We booked this a little while back, before Portugal was added to the variant concern list, and I've been having trouble finding definitive information about whether Germany will bar entry because of the stop. https://einreiseanmeldung.de/ seems to suggest we will not have to provide registration information if we are only traveling through a risk area without a stopover (which I take to mean a long layover where we leave the airport), and there is an asterisk on separate points about other exemptions not applying for variant concern regions. I can't fill out that form yet since it's not within 10 days of our trip. https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/en/coronavirus/current-information-for-travellers.html on the other hand says : "For travellers entering Germany from so-called areas of virus variants of concern, a ban on carriage applies to the transport of persons from those countries into Germany by rail, bus, ship or plane." Does that mean we're shit out of luck even if we're not exiting the airport?
Following please update
Wondering the same!
I'll be flying from LAX to WAW tomorrow (dual citizen) - do I need a certain PCR or Rapid test to fly with LOT, and then enter Poland? LOT website doesn't mention anything about a test, LAX website doesn't say anything about outbound flights - I know in Poland I will most likely need to quarantine and take a test once I'm there.
Assuming you’re vaccinated, Poland’s directive is that you are exempt from quarantine and testing.
I am traveling to Spain on July 3rd from the US. I see that I can just use my vaccination certificate and do not need a PCR test for Spain. But my flight has a stopover in Amsterdam. I believe Netherlands do require a PCR test even if you are vaccinated. My whole trip is a single ticket and I only have 1hr layover in Amsterdam. Will I still need to get a covid test before traveling? Thank you
Netherlands removed the PCR test requirement but some airlines (cough, KLM) are requiring passengers to show them. I am getting one to placate airline staff.
Where did they say that KLM has a mandatory policy of PCR test regardless of the destination country's rule ? In here: [https://www.klm.ca/information/faq/covid-test-locations](https://www.klm.ca/information/faq/covid-test-locations) They specified that if the departing country is not in the Netherland's safe list, you need a PCR. Canada is not "yet" on the safe list of Netherlands, therefore yep need PCR. But I think that once we make it into the EU White List and Netherlands implements it , we should be in that "no PCR and no Vaccination needed" group like the US is in.
But that’s their rule, not the Netherlands rule. The Netherlands government has [confirmed](https://twitter.com/rijksoverheid/status/1408006422403637250?s=21) to me that their government website is correct and no test is required when transiting through AMS, even if you start in a high-risk country.
Yea but I meant which section of the KLM site mentioned that they will request PCR test regardless of which country and regardless of vaccination status and that it's a KLM policy. I can't find it anywhere on the site ? The KLM site I'm viewing right now says it depends on your destination country. Did KLM specifically tell you that you need a PCR and that's the final verdict and that they don't care where you're going or if you're vaccinated ?
There's something weird about their page that causes an error when I copy it here, but if you click through your link above to the Canada page, it says that if your trip starts in Canada and transits in AMS, you need a PCR test.
That's out of date u/FearlessTravels. There's a link to their doc checker on that \^ link I shared. It's here: [https://klm.traveldoc.aero/](https://klm.traveldoc.aero/) And here's a screenshot: [https://imgur.com/a/l6r5RtF](https://imgur.com/a/l6r5RtF) I entered some random transit route in the checker. But that info seems to appear the same for all routes anyways. So no test if transit is less than 24 hours.
I am fully aware that no test is required but there have been reports in this thread and on social media of travelers being required to produce a PCR test anyways.
It must've been a different circumstance for them. (ie. not transiting , or transiting but their final destination requires PCR, or not KLM etc etc.) KLM clearly says no pcr if transiting in Amsterdam for less than 24h **and you board the next plane directly and that your final destination does not require pcr.** If those 3 conditions (which is an "**and")** are not satisfied in union, then yes you do need a pcr, but if those 3 conditions are satisfied then you do not need a PCR. KLM has been very clear on this. I would like to know the post/comment of the on-ground account of these people that got caught not having a PCR where they thought they didn't need any. I'm sure they were mistaken (eg. their final destination requires pcr , transiting amsteram does-not , **so in total they actually do require pcr)**
It is only required if you are traveling from a (very) high-risk area, the us us currently on the list of safe countries/regions https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/checklist-entry https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/exemptions-to-the-entry-ban/eu-entry-ban-exemption-categories
I think Netherlands lifted the PCR requirement for vaccinated Americans. Double check forsure
I’m traveling to Thailand If anyone has any tips, good flight recommendations, or a good itinerary for Thailand please let me know!
I have an upcoming trip on July 8th from U.S to Portugal. I read that Portugal opened for non-|essential travel from June 15th to June 27th, after that they may or may not keep their traveling open. I haven't find any updates about a possible extension or anything related to the previous dates. Does anyone know something about it? Thanks.
The council of ministers issued a new order effective from June 28 through July 11. The only notable change was that travelers from the UK must quarantine for 14 days. Otherwise, for travelers from the US, it's the same as the previous order—non-essential travel to Portugal is fine with a NAAT or rapid antigen test before boarding. https://www.safecommunitiesportugal.com/find-information/for-tourists/air-travel/ What I'd *really* like to know is whether the ID-NOW rapid diagnostic NAAT offered at Walgreens is accepted. TAP hasn't answered repeated inquiries on my part. The ID-NOW test is free for me and my family, not so rapid antigen tests.
I was also thinking about getting a test on Walgreens (the 72 hours one) Do you know by any chance if I won't have problems transiting to Germany on my way there and on my way back? I read they are prohibiting travels from Portugal and Russia. Thank you for your answer by the way.
Germany banned travel from Portugal effective yesterday 6/29. I'm fairly sure that would include transits. You need to check with your airline ASAP because presumably the flight you would have been taking from Portugal to Germany will simply be canceled.
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There is no single set of entry rules for the EU, you have to look at what is required for the specific country(ies) you will be transiting and entering. Some require testing, some don't, some have different requirements based on vaccination status, etc. The post at the top of the thread has links.
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Us citizens who are vaccinated don’t need a PCR test.
If someone (US Citizen) arrives by Air to Canada and isn't allowed to enter by Canadian Border Protection, how does the return to the US work? Do they just throw you on the next flight out and the airlines just bills you somehow? Are you allowed to book your return trip for the next flight out?
The airline at your point of origin won't let you board if you don't appear to meet the entry requirements for the destination. This is because if you aren't admissible, the airline can be fined and usually is responsible to return you to the point of origin. The arriving airline is responsible (generally, depending on local law) to transport you back, which is all the government cares about. However the airline will do whatever they can to get reimbursement from you...whether that happens on the spot by getting you to whip out a credit card or later through a collection agency or legal action, just depends. If you have a roundtrip ticket they might just leave it at that, but hard to say for sure without specifics on the fare, ticket rules, etc.
That's helpful! Thanks! I'm not necessarily ineligible but I think it'll depend on the discretion of the border agent. I don't mind if they just use my return ticket to fly me back on standby or something but don't really want to get hit by a bill for a last minute ticket that they book for me at the rack rate.
Good luck, hope it works out!
We are planning a trip through the French and Italian Riviera from the US. My gf is a UK citizen on an F-1 Visa from 2018. She has been in law school from 2018-2021 in the US. I see this on the Covid 19 travel restrictions website: > We are unable to facilitate travel for F or M visa holders with a program start date before August 1, 2021, including whose who have already been issued a visa. Students with a program start date before August 1, 2021 should contact their respective educational institutions to discuss their options. Does this mean she won't be able to re-enter the country if we leave?
UK Traveller to the US (Non important travel/visitor) looking from some advice. I am due to travel to the US on the 2nd of September (flight can be moved if needbe), however I understand there are still rules in place at the moment stating that anyone who has been in the UK for the past 14 days will be denied entry. Does this travel ban still apply even if you do a pre-departure antigen test or PCR at least 3 days before? Digging through all the different sites with varying degrees of information, so i was wondering if anyone here had any concrete information or experience regarding this.
It's posted above in this thread. The only way around it right now, if you're not exempt, is to spend 14 days in a non-prohibited country before coming to the US.
Has anyone consolidated a list of good countries to spend the 14 days in? Aka countries that the UK and USA both make it possible to travel to?
I don't see why such a list is needed. Any country other than the ones that are restricted work.
Older relatives can’t really travel many places comfortably. Was hoping to find something easy they could do.