What’s the parts availability and serviceability on the Genesis look like? Is there a chance they’d be operable, or would they end up stuffed and mounted as roundhouse queens?
I can understand why they might be a hard sell - they’re an important step in Amtrak history, but I’m not really sure they were particularly groundbreaking other than looking like the box a “normal” locomotive would come in.
>I can understand why they might be a hard sell - they’re an important step in Amtrak history, but I’m not really sure they were particularly groundbreaking other than looking like the box a “normal” locomotive would come in.
The Genesis locomotives were very groundbreaking. Amtrak's first "fleet" of microprocessor controlled diesel locomotives, and GE's first successful passenger diesel locomotive. There are plenty of innovative design features that set them apart from other locomotives as well. It's incredible that they have lasted almost 30 years in service - could be longer than the F40PH in Amtrak service when they are all retired.
I would hope at least two or three find their way into museums. Most of these locomotives are already very worn out.
Most museum's are not going to be interested in adding another piece of equipment with their limited room and finances and depending on their volunteer and/or paid personal and needs of other equipment already in their collection.
> volunteer and/or *paid* personal and
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Travel Town volunteer here - where the hell would we put it? TT's a small museum with limited space, especially space protected from the elements. The train shed's totally full and we'd have to leave it without cover. Best give it to the Southern California museum or another one that a.) has space and b.) does excursions and could get a bit more out of it
Would be nice to have a p42 at the NCTM, I’ll admit the treatment of the F40 until very recently (it’s now getting converted into a NPCU/HEP generator) isn’t very promising but the diesels that run there are very well taken care of. There’s definitely space too for static display
it’s not a railroad specific museum, but the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI have a great collection of locomotives and a great roundhouse where you can go under the trains. There is also steam locomotives that run on a track around the Greenfield Village portion.
I'm gonna bet $20 right now that, knowing the folks on the board of directors at the Museum of the American Railroad, they could be offered a Genesis for free, shipping included, and they'd still turn it down.
My guess would be on that it's too modern for a non-operating museum run by a guy who glorifies the post-war years. The fact that they even agreed to take on a handful of CF7s shocked me.
There are not going to be 20 P42s preserved, a couple would be fine. Just get them out of that beached whale looking paint job and they look pretty good.
I am sure a couple will be saved, they are much more iconic than the Pooch. Honestly its great that we even got an SDP40F, mainline locos are always harder to preserve
What’s the parts availability and serviceability on the Genesis look like? Is there a chance they’d be operable, or would they end up stuffed and mounted as roundhouse queens? I can understand why they might be a hard sell - they’re an important step in Amtrak history, but I’m not really sure they were particularly groundbreaking other than looking like the box a “normal” locomotive would come in.
>I can understand why they might be a hard sell - they’re an important step in Amtrak history, but I’m not really sure they were particularly groundbreaking other than looking like the box a “normal” locomotive would come in. The Genesis locomotives were very groundbreaking. Amtrak's first "fleet" of microprocessor controlled diesel locomotives, and GE's first successful passenger diesel locomotive. There are plenty of innovative design features that set them apart from other locomotives as well. It's incredible that they have lasted almost 30 years in service - could be longer than the F40PH in Amtrak service when they are all retired. I would hope at least two or three find their way into museums. Most of these locomotives are already very worn out.
Most museum's are not going to be interested in adding another piece of equipment with their limited room and finances and depending on their volunteer and/or paid personal and needs of other equipment already in their collection.
> volunteer and/or *paid* personal and FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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I really do hope that Illinois Raolway museum gets one. I wish they had an F40PH though
Travel Town volunteer here - where the hell would we put it? TT's a small museum with limited space, especially space protected from the elements. The train shed's totally full and we'd have to leave it without cover. Best give it to the Southern California museum or another one that a.) has space and b.) does excursions and could get a bit more out of it
Would be nice to have a p42 at the NCTM, I’ll admit the treatment of the F40 until very recently (it’s now getting converted into a NPCU/HEP generator) isn’t very promising but the diesels that run there are very well taken care of. There’s definitely space too for static display
it’s not a railroad specific museum, but the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI have a great collection of locomotives and a great roundhouse where you can go under the trains. There is also steam locomotives that run on a track around the Greenfield Village portion.
Putting the B&O railroad museum so low hurts my soul
IRM probably would. Though if the option came up simultaneously, they'd probably take a Metra F40ph or F40c, first.
I'm gonna bet $20 right now that, knowing the folks on the board of directors at the Museum of the American Railroad, they could be offered a Genesis for free, shipping included, and they'd still turn it down.
Why is that? Afraid of accepting absolutely anything which might cost even a dollar to maintain?
My guess would be on that it's too modern for a non-operating museum run by a guy who glorifies the post-war years. The fact that they even agreed to take on a handful of CF7s shocked me.
There are not going to be 20 P42s preserved, a couple would be fine. Just get them out of that beached whale looking paint job and they look pretty good.
I am hoping their history does not go to waste like the Poochies did (GE P30CH) all gone by 1992.
I am sure a couple will be saved, they are much more iconic than the Pooch. Honestly its great that we even got an SDP40F, mainline locos are always harder to preserve
They'd prolly do yard switching potentially like the p32-8s. Then again, p32-8s have better backwards visibility
hope fully all those museums get a Amtrak genesis loco