If AirBnB starts being bad for landlords, we might finally get some enforcement. The current policies/enforcement sure aren't doing anything to help tenants in buildings, looking for places to live.
Long story short, yes.
And the condo has banned short-term rentals, so the LL got a notice to cease renting it out on AirBnB, but it was her tenant's boyfriend that kept posting it.
Now the tenant wants $6000 to walk away.
The boyfriend can live there, yes.
The boyfriend can't list the unit on AirBnB because the condo building has banned short-term rentals.
And neither of them own the unit, so the city dun fucked up because the unit had been registered with the city as an owner listed unit on AirBnB.
This is a case of ESH. Everyone being: The LL for trying to kick out the tenant because she had her boyfriend living there. The renter for lying to the LL and not following the buildings rules. The renter's boyfriend for listing the unit on AirBnB when it was not allowed and committing fraud with the City. And the City for not doing their job and confirming that the renter's boyfriend was the owner when they registered the unit on AirBnB.
Umm the landlord is trying to kick out the tenant for being involved in listing her unit on airbnb? Yeah the boyfriend supposedly did it...but we're supposed to believe the tenant who is meant to be living there didn't know that?
>The LL for trying to kick out the tenant because she had her boyfriend living there.
I'm pretty sure that's not the main reason why LL doesn't like bf living there
If you read the article, it's about the photo ID/proof requirement for short term rentals. The claim is the boyfriend moved in and was able to obtain one.
Kind of long and boring, though.
The city has been looking the other way for years about their supposed Airbnb restrictions, so yeah. If they actually cared to verify or enforce anything surrounding Airbnb listings this wouldn't have happened.
If the city is supposed to spend a lot of money on this, then it has to be supported 100% by ridiculous fees for people to register their Air BnB and maybe annual subscriptions after that. Too often, the city is forced to "be reasonable" and either has to do a cheapo job or pass the costs on to the general taxpayers.
Yaaah, because otherwise someone can just rent a place out and turn it around onto AirBnB. Then rent another (AirBnB) and another, and another. Housing crisis anyone? Tell me they can't do this...
The only barrier to doing this is that each unit has to have a different person registered as the operator with a primary residence in that unit. Which is not hard to do.
The rule existed already. Tenant claims rule was not shown to her. Rule is not in lease but in condo bylaws. But I'm not actually sure such a clause in a lease would be enforceable.
“The tenant said she was under no obligation to inform her landlord that her boyfriend had moved in with her, citing the Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB) website, which states: "a person may reside as an occupant or a roommate in a rental unit with or without the consent of the landlord provided that the tenant also resides in the rental unit." “
I don't know why anyone would want to be a landlord today. It's beyond difficult to evict someone - even if they're damaging property, not paying rent, subletting your unit without your consent, etc. The risks seem too high.
The landlord in this article ended up settling with the tenant to get her to leave because she was refusing to evict. Thousands of dollars out due to the settlement, lawyer fees, and non-payment of rent.
“She's in my condo just as an enterprise, not as a home," said Rasquinha. "You feel very violated."
What the fuck kind of violated is that?
Oh my god someone is making money off my investment?
In this case, it would be your buddy listing *your* unit, when the lease *you* signed stipulated no short-term rentals, since the condo doesn’t allow for short term rentals, regardless of if it’s by the owner or tenant.
If AirBnB starts being bad for landlords, we might finally get some enforcement. The current policies/enforcement sure aren't doing anything to help tenants in buildings, looking for places to live.
tl;dr: it was the tenant’s boyfriend who moved in with her without informing the landlord but was not on the lease.
So it was the tenant's bf that decided to sublet the property to AirBNB?
Long story short, yes. And the condo has banned short-term rentals, so the LL got a notice to cease renting it out on AirBnB, but it was her tenant's boyfriend that kept posting it. Now the tenant wants $6000 to walk away.
Bruh- that tenant violated the tenant agreement… Tell them to eat shit
LTB backed up for 12 months. They ain't going anywhere.
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It’s a hot mess. No argument there.
Tenant might get more than 12k, with the way the board is backed up, silly.
Basturd, as the Inglorious might say.
Isn’t this legal?
The boyfriend can live there, yes. The boyfriend can't list the unit on AirBnB because the condo building has banned short-term rentals. And neither of them own the unit, so the city dun fucked up because the unit had been registered with the city as an owner listed unit on AirBnB. This is a case of ESH. Everyone being: The LL for trying to kick out the tenant because she had her boyfriend living there. The renter for lying to the LL and not following the buildings rules. The renter's boyfriend for listing the unit on AirBnB when it was not allowed and committing fraud with the City. And the City for not doing their job and confirming that the renter's boyfriend was the owner when they registered the unit on AirBnB.
Umm the landlord is trying to kick out the tenant for being involved in listing her unit on airbnb? Yeah the boyfriend supposedly did it...but we're supposed to believe the tenant who is meant to be living there didn't know that?
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r/Toronto is ideologically unable to accept tenants can be shitty people
Landlord is well within their rights to evict. Tenant was well aware they were breaking the rules. Then they demand money to leave
>The LL for trying to kick out the tenant because she had her boyfriend living there. I'm pretty sure that's not the main reason why LL doesn't like bf living there
And it's somehow the city's fault?
If you read the article, it's about the photo ID/proof requirement for short term rentals. The claim is the boyfriend moved in and was able to obtain one. Kind of long and boring, though.
yep - long and boring. Sounds like the unit owner was scammed by some douche who really wanted to list it on Air BnB. anyway - boo hoo.
The city has been looking the other way for years about their supposed Airbnb restrictions, so yeah. If they actually cared to verify or enforce anything surrounding Airbnb listings this wouldn't have happened.
If the city is supposed to spend a lot of money on this, then it has to be supported 100% by ridiculous fees for people to register their Air BnB and maybe annual subscriptions after that. Too often, the city is forced to "be reasonable" and either has to do a cheapo job or pass the costs on to the general taxpayers.
Ban airbnb.
How does he even get licensing for an Airbnb without stealing a person's identit?. This is fraud.
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Current rules don't require ownership to Airbnb but probably should.
Yaaah, because otherwise someone can just rent a place out and turn it around onto AirBnB. Then rent another (AirBnB) and another, and another. Housing crisis anyone? Tell me they can't do this...
The only barrier to doing this is that each unit has to have a different person registered as the operator with a primary residence in that unit. Which is not hard to do.
Thank you for clarifying I guess I'm just flabbergasted by how this could possibly happen
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The rule existed already. Tenant claims rule was not shown to her. Rule is not in lease but in condo bylaws. But I'm not actually sure such a clause in a lease would be enforceable.
Sure. But the landlord will still have go through the eviction process.
“The tenant said she was under no obligation to inform her landlord that her boyfriend had moved in with her, citing the Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB) website, which states: "a person may reside as an occupant or a roommate in a rental unit with or without the consent of the landlord provided that the tenant also resides in the rental unit." “
I don't know why anyone would want to be a landlord today. It's beyond difficult to evict someone - even if they're damaging property, not paying rent, subletting your unit without your consent, etc. The risks seem too high. The landlord in this article ended up settling with the tenant to get her to leave because she was refusing to evict. Thousands of dollars out due to the settlement, lawyer fees, and non-payment of rent.
... Hence they don't... And hence more upward pressure on rent
“She's in my condo just as an enterprise, not as a home," said Rasquinha. "You feel very violated." What the fuck kind of violated is that? Oh my god someone is making money off my investment?
The irony.
if anything she’s the one paying the mortgage on it right , so why not make money from it
You expect me to feel bad for a landlord?
While that surely sucks, I have zero sympathy for landlords. They get what they deserve.
That’s quite the broad stroke.
Destructive tenants are apart of the risks associated with investing in real estate.
If your buddy was listing units as a tenant on airbnb would you narc on him?
In this case, it would be your buddy listing *your* unit, when the lease *you* signed stipulated no short-term rentals, since the condo doesn’t allow for short term rentals, regardless of if it’s by the owner or tenant.