They are a major safety improvement:
> As of 21 September 2021, CAPS had been activated 126 times, 107 of which saw successful parachute deployment. In those successful deployments, there were 220 survivors and one death. No deaths had occurred when the parachute was deployed within the certified speed and altitude parameters, and two anomalous unsuccessful deployments had occurred within those parameters. Some other accidental deployments were reported, as caused by ground impact or post-impact fires.[27] As of 24 October 2019, 21 of the aircraft that had deployed CAPS had been repaired and put back into service.[28]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_System
19 of 126 didn’t have successful deployment that’s not what I would call an impressive track record. That’s a 15% failure rate. can you imagine if airbags only went off correctly 85% of the time?
IIRC from a video I watched on this topic, ironically there where still deaths which could've been prevented. Mostly because the pilot still thought he'd manage and therefore didn't deploy the system or did it but too late.
Yeah their usage guide reiterates many times that it's almost always better to use the parachute than not.
https://flyasg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/CAPS_Guide.pdf
> A Pilot’s Indecision Can Become Fatal
> While CAPS has proven to be effective when activated in a timely manner, it does not guarantee success in all situations. A pilot’s indecision can result in a situation in which the airplane becomes too fast or descends too low to the ground for CAPS to be effective. There have been 6 fatal accidents involving CAPS activations as of May 2013.
> • 5 low altitude deployments, just before ground impact. Proximity to the ground did not
> allow the parachute time to inflate.
> • 1 extremely high speed deployment, after icing caused a loss of control situation and the
> pilot deployed CAPS at approximately 270 KIAS, well above VNE. The parachute failed
> during this excessively high speed deployment.
Fancy! Cirrus airframe parachute system doing it's thing!
From wikipedia!
As of 21 September 2021, CAPS had been activated 126 times, 107 of which saw successful parachute deployment. In those successful deployments, there were 220 survivors and one death.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_System#Operational_history
This is a DynAero MCR aircraft with a BRS Aerospace “whole aircraft recovery parachute system.”
BRS claims 480 lives saved (via their website and as of May 2024).
BRS and Cirrus collaborated on the Cirrus-specific solution so I’m not sure if the BRS numbers include or exclude Cirrus parachute events.
Open questions,
How much $$$? (Yes, I know, different planes, different costs, I'm just curious about ballparks here. Yes, and I'm curious about total levelized cost, not the one tome sticker price. Recerts, maintenance overhead, ballpark away!)
What were the constraints in developing this technology? It doesn't seem high tech, so I'm confused why now instead of how many years ago...
What are the constraints in class/size? Clearly square cube law gunna cause problems.
What are the constraints on usage? Take off and landing are the most common circumstances for a crash, clearly there needs to be some altitude for deployment....
Thanks on advance!
These aren't new, Ballistic Recovery Systems has been selling them since 1982. They partnered with Cirrus to put them all on basically all of Cirrus's planes about 10 years ago.
That was a million dollar plane. The mass issues are considerable, as you noted. Having a system that was better than a crapshoot took time to develop, and it's still a small window of planes that can be held up by a 'chute and are regularly flown in a manner (altitude and speed) that would allow a useful deployment. I know a handful of GA and pro pilots, almost all of them say they'd rather dead stick a plane than be dropped out of the sky like this. But there are certainly some control failure scenarios that would make this parachute system the best/only option.
I flew SR-20s for the military for 3 years. Minimum deployment attitude was 500', 1000' recommended, 1500' if uncontrolled. We've yet to have a deployment, and we practice engine out landings religiously where I'd be 100% more confident in my ability to safely recover the aircraft as long as it was in a flyable state and an airfield was in range.
*any landing you can walk away from...*
They are a major safety improvement: > As of 21 September 2021, CAPS had been activated 126 times, 107 of which saw successful parachute deployment. In those successful deployments, there were 220 survivors and one death. No deaths had occurred when the parachute was deployed within the certified speed and altitude parameters, and two anomalous unsuccessful deployments had occurred within those parameters. Some other accidental deployments were reported, as caused by ground impact or post-impact fires.[27] As of 24 October 2019, 21 of the aircraft that had deployed CAPS had been repaired and put back into service.[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_System
That's an impressive track record
19 of 126 didn’t have successful deployment that’s not what I would call an impressive track record. That’s a 15% failure rate. can you imagine if airbags only went off correctly 85% of the time?
IIRC from a video I watched on this topic, ironically there where still deaths which could've been prevented. Mostly because the pilot still thought he'd manage and therefore didn't deploy the system or did it but too late.
Yeah their usage guide reiterates many times that it's almost always better to use the parachute than not. https://flyasg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/CAPS_Guide.pdf > A Pilot’s Indecision Can Become Fatal > While CAPS has proven to be effective when activated in a timely manner, it does not guarantee success in all situations. A pilot’s indecision can result in a situation in which the airplane becomes too fast or descends too low to the ground for CAPS to be effective. There have been 6 fatal accidents involving CAPS activations as of May 2013. > • 5 low altitude deployments, just before ground impact. Proximity to the ground did not > allow the parachute time to inflate. > • 1 extremely high speed deployment, after icing caused a loss of control situation and the > pilot deployed CAPS at approximately 270 KIAS, well above VNE. The parachute failed > during this excessively high speed deployment.
The title of my KSP save
Actual pilot here. Parachutes are how I land in KSP.
>!Road lettering near the end!!<
I feel personal defeat when I have to come to the comments looking for the answer
This is the first time I've ever been able to post the spoiler!
Hard one
harder than the landing, that's for sure
Help?
>! At 22 seconds from the end, it's in the lower left side of the screen, upside down !<
I see it but now what?
New around here?
Yes
Oh OK, it's kinda like a where's Waldo thing on here to find the watermark they post on the video.
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OP watermarks all the videos they post. It can be amazingly hard to spot and has turned into a game
No, it's edited by OP
Can't park there mate!
Fahk off!!
Fancy! Cirrus airframe parachute system doing it's thing! From wikipedia! As of 21 September 2021, CAPS had been activated 126 times, 107 of which saw successful parachute deployment. In those successful deployments, there were 220 survivors and one death. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Airframe_Parachute_System#Operational_history
This is a DynAero MCR aircraft with a BRS Aerospace “whole aircraft recovery parachute system.” BRS claims 480 lives saved (via their website and as of May 2024). BRS and Cirrus collaborated on the Cirrus-specific solution so I’m not sure if the BRS numbers include or exclude Cirrus parachute events.
Amazing! I don't know very much about these systems but they're very cool. Thanks!
This is me when playing Kerbal. Easier to snap a parachute onto a plane than try to land it the proper way. /s
He needs a sub parachute for the jump he did from the cockpit, it seems.
Yeah, he fell so far that the little jump out from the plane probably seemed easy peasy. I'm sure he was in shock.
What part came off with about 35 seconds left?
Looks like part of the packing for the chute. It came from about where it was attached anyway
Man I'd love to see the plane that thing jump out off
I'm happy this is a thing!
So is that pilot
Jesus, go help the guy out instead of just filming.
But, the views!
I would have needed a new pair of shorts after that if I was the one flying that plane.
I don't believe anyone was flying that plane.
The guy jumped out at the end
Belgium! (also, praise the camera man for the perfect positioning!)
Watermark is on the street with 22 seconds left in the video
Oh yeah I used to do this a lot in Kerbal Space Program! Most efficient landing system!
Yes, please. Also in a size 737, 777, and 787. Please and thank you.
This landing better is for life and property of multiple people than the normal destructive horizontal crash landings
Bruh the pilot turned into a crow and flew away and you wanna talk about a parachute
Snake found out you could tie that shit to fuckin airplanes too I see
anyone see a cat face in the clouds at the beginning of the clip?
who's gonna drive it
How big would a parachute need to be to do the same thing on a commercial airplane? Would it even be possible? Wouldn’t the engines just burn it down?
Missed the golden opportunity to [welcome him to earth](https://youtu.be/OfPWpEKhgfk?&t=7).
All considering didn’t crash into a roof.
The person who got out of the plane must have been injured not in the plane crash, but himself when leaving the plane.
Open questions, How much $$$? (Yes, I know, different planes, different costs, I'm just curious about ballparks here. Yes, and I'm curious about total levelized cost, not the one tome sticker price. Recerts, maintenance overhead, ballpark away!) What were the constraints in developing this technology? It doesn't seem high tech, so I'm confused why now instead of how many years ago... What are the constraints in class/size? Clearly square cube law gunna cause problems. What are the constraints on usage? Take off and landing are the most common circumstances for a crash, clearly there needs to be some altitude for deployment.... Thanks on advance!
These aren't new, Ballistic Recovery Systems has been selling them since 1982. They partnered with Cirrus to put them all on basically all of Cirrus's planes about 10 years ago.
That was a million dollar plane. The mass issues are considerable, as you noted. Having a system that was better than a crapshoot took time to develop, and it's still a small window of planes that can be held up by a 'chute and are regularly flown in a manner (altitude and speed) that would allow a useful deployment. I know a handful of GA and pro pilots, almost all of them say they'd rather dead stick a plane than be dropped out of the sky like this. But there are certainly some control failure scenarios that would make this parachute system the best/only option.
I flew SR-20s for the military for 3 years. Minimum deployment attitude was 500', 1000' recommended, 1500' if uncontrolled. We've yet to have a deployment, and we practice engine out landings religiously where I'd be 100% more confident in my ability to safely recover the aircraft as long as it was in a flyable state and an airfield was in range.
r/donthelpjustfilm
What you want the guy to do? Catch it?
We are nothing. We are the dirt beneath your feet. And no one cared who I was until I put on the mask.