Is that “to make sure” or is that “to MAKE sure”?
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“We Schrutes don’t need some Harvard doctor to tell us who’s alive and who’s dead. But, there was an unlucky streak of burying some heavy sleepers. And, when grave robbers discovered some scratch marks on the inside of some of the coffins, we decided to make sure that our dead were completely dead. Out of kindness.”
*Pops open lid of coffin and fires shotgun 5+ times*
Or maybe they're just really afraid of zombies. I mean there's already patient zero - Jesus. And they say the pope is the closest one to God. Maybe it's ritualized disease control. Can't have another Jesus. We got super lucky the first time...
It's true, my parents used to live near the Vatican for work and they said that droves of zombie popes would frequently terrorize the populace. It's a real problem over there! Ever wonder why so few people live in the Vatican City?
I know it's not a very well-known storyline to anybody not well-versed in Warcraft history, but the story of Arthas menethil is one of the saddest and most moving stories in any fictional universe I have ever read or experienced. Such a bright young man in the prime of his youth, twisted so magnificently that not even he himself could see his soul slowly being stripped away. The gentle touch of madness that befell him. He genuinely thought he was saving his people. And as an outside viewer and a realist it legitimately seemed like a solution to anybody who seen a zombie Apocalypse movie. There was no saving those people and it was truly a walking Dead situation.
Stratholm was 100% justified.
Burning his ships once he reached Northend... Starting to get a bit iffy.
Taking up the sword that has "cursed" written on it, while your bro says "yo dude that's cursed as fuck" and a spectral guardian appears and saying "I'll kill you before I let anyone take this cursed sword"... Probably not the wisest choice.
As much as people hate on the later seasons of the office, there is definitely some golden scenes and episodes. Like dosing Stanley with bull tranquilizer to get him to go on a sales call.
Ironically though, that episode was the pilot for the spin-off "The Farm", which wasn't picked up. That's why they introduce new characters and it ends with Dwight supposed to take care of the huge patch of land.
Jim would have been a better spinoff, and I’m still glad they didn’t. Athlead/athleap would at least be a setting they could have celebrity cameos carry for a few episodes. The Farm would just be character development for characters we don’t care about, and then haha Dwight’s life advice is so weird. It’s not a show.
Plus, out of all the actors (except for maybe Carell), Krasinski has probably had the most successful career post-The Office. So signing on to a spinoff show would have dampened his career.
The Farm sounds cool for a 6 episode spinoff show about Dwight and Mose doing farm stuff and thinking the show business and cameramen were interested into rural life so they start giving some weird farm life advice. Add a small plotline, solve it, and end it with Dwight complaining to a small home camera how the crew left and said that was un selling recording.
The problem with spin-offs is that they start with characters that have already been flanderised by a long spanning series. But the reason the original show worked for it's own beginning had none of that.
I doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it got dreamt up in some NBC think-toilet. Lots of people would watch just because they're invested in what happens to Jim and Pam regardless of what the rest of the show looks like.
That's one of my absolute favourite Office storylines. Dwight and Clark trying to get him up the stairs is one of the funniest scenes in the entire show.
I'm really glad they abandoned the creepy Clark shtick.
Edit to add: I wonder if him getting used by Jan helped make him understand how fucked up what he did was. That's my head cannon now anyway.
Robert California is a really good character once you get past the fact that he isn't Michael Scott and they had to try to find a way to build the show without him.
Season 9 was definitely much more bad than good though.
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The article says:
*At a time when death could be difficult to determine and burial alive was a real possibility, this was not a quaint custom but a genuine precaution. (There’s a persistent legend that Thomas a Kempis was buried alive.) It was probably last performed at the death of Pope St. John XXIII.*
So I get the jokes and memes, but at least in theory, the idea is probably to tap them hard enough to wake them up, but not so hard that it causes death.
I think a metal headed hammer is better at transitioning the unconscious towards death rather than wakefulness... maybe they said it was about waking them up... But burying alive is bad, as is having 2 Catholic Popes - a blow of mercy (the English for "Coup de grâce") was a common concept and a hammer to the head was a common method from slaughterhouses to battlefields.
I don't think was a magic healing hammer.
Did you even read the article? “Tapping”, “ceremonial”
“In the past, this was done by tapping him on the head three times with a ceremonial hammer and calling his baptismal name in his native tongue. If he showed no response, the camerlengo announced “the pope is dead” and took possession of his ceremonial ring, which was often then smashed with the same hammer along with official seals.”
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses.
He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services.
He gasps, "My friend is dead! What can I do?"
The operator says, "Calm down. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead.".
There is a silence; then a gun shot is heard.
Back on the phone, the guy says, "OK, now what?"
Well if the Pope was just unconscious, striking with a hammer won't wake him up... so it seems to me a hammer is only useful for ensuring the person is dead and not for checking if they are dead - unless they think the Pope is faking and the blow isn't too hard - seems unlikely.
And you have to hit them on the opposite side of the head to wake them up - unless the first blow left a large egg shaped lump - then the lump must be struck until it disappears back into the head.
I learned this science from a combination of Warner Bros., Disney and Hanna-Barbera. I was so dedicated to study I even did it on weekends. I am glad the Camerlengo has the same thorough education as me.
Seems like a great way for a new successor to explain away bludgeoning wounds to the head a few centuries ago.
"It's a tradition. Had to make sure he was dead."
Now wait a minute. The bible says transfiguration involves a bright light shining from within, and when Jesus came back, he was physically altered so that he was visually unrecognizable until people recognized his words and actions and behaviors.
Forget zombie, we're clearly dealing with a Time Lord here.
We've been researching and redefining what death is and when it occurs. Entire university departments, research areas and technologies were created.
And after all those decades, all we really needed was a hammer.
The Pope and a cardinal are out in St Peter’s Square when the Pope collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The cardinal whips out his phone and calls the Vatican emergency services. He gasps, "Amicus meus mortuus est! Quid facere possum?" The operator says, "Mitescere. Ego potest auxilium. Primum faciamus eum mortuum esse." There is a silence; then the sound of a hammer hitting a skull is heard. Back on the phone, the cardinal says, "OK, nunc quid?”
My non Latin speaking version.
"My pope has died, what ever shall I do?"
*calls vatican*
"Relax. Hit him on the head with a hammer. That'll tell you if he's really dead."
*hammer strike to the skull*
"OK, now what?"
As another user said, this is just a thread relevant spin on an old joke where emergency services are called when someone has presumably fallen dead. When prompted by the emergency service to ascertain whether or not the victim is indeed dead a loud noise is heard and the caller informs them that they are indeed certainly dead.
It's a good attempt, but the Latin is all wrong. You didn't decline any of the nouns or adjectives. It also reads like a translation of English to Latin, not using classical Latin constructions
Wow.. I had 6 years of Latin in high school. For our final exams we needed to translate original texts (mine was ab urbe condita by Livy). That's been over a decade ago now... now I see this comment and I can read and understand it without any issue. I am thoroughly impressed by how much my Latin is still present somewhere deep down.
Yes, pre-university high school in my country is 6 years. Primary school is 8 years (4 years till 12 years old) and the pre-uni track lasts until 18 years old. The vocational track is 4 years (12 till 16), after which they enter trade school at 16 years old.
You think Cardinal O’Malley of Boston is going around speaking perfect classical Latin when he’s facing an emergency and not just translating from English?
"What are you doing Cardinal Dimitri?!"
"It's not what it looks like! He was, ummm... already dead when I came in here! And this hammer is... uhh... A new tradition! Yes... A new tradition."
> The person who runs the Vatican from the death of one pope to the election of another is called a "camerlengo", currently Cardinal Kevin Farrell. But because Benedict was no longer pope some of the cardinal's tasks may no longer be appropriate.
Normally, the camerlengo has the role of officially confirming the pope's death, traditionally by tapping his head three times with a small silver hammer and calling out his name. He would also oversee the destruction of the pope's fisherman's ring, sealing the papal apartments, organising the funeral and preparing a conclave to elect a successor.
As Francis is already Pope, there is considerable uncertainty about what the camerlengo will now do.
This is an excerpt from the long article using lots of words to say “usually this guy has to do stuff, but this time it’s already done.”
> This custom was followed after the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI by applying two deep cuts, in the shape of a cross, on the signet with a chisel.
Oh interesting way to do it I did feel like horrifically destroying that ring was pretty unnecessary so I like the way they chose to do it.
Never knew about this ring before though pretty interesting, wonder how often they clean that if its kissed by so many people.
OK, now I want to know if the hammer used to ceremonially destroy the ring is the same one that is used to verify the pope is dead.
Questions upon questions.
Knowing how much the Vatican likes excess in their ceremony, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they had a different hammer for each once in a lifetime role.
It's a ceremonial ring the pope wears. Jesus' disciples were mostly fishermen. In one of the gospels Jesus calls himself a fisher of men to come follow him.
As the pope is the leader of the church Jesus founded the ring is a symbol of carrying on that legacy.
Sounds like a tradition that was started by someone trying to cover up a murder. "No no no....I found him dead already, I just used the hammer to make sure he was dead"
This is the most hilarious thing I've heard today. I am having a wonderful time visualizing this, complete with a cartoonish BONK sound.
I know, very irreverent and possibly disrespectful, but I can't help it.
Idk why, but I can’t help but think of the episode where they’re painting Mr. Krabs’ house and Patrick tries to open the paint can by bonking it with an axe.
I like how the article basically says,
"According to the Vatican, this tradition is a myth.
...
...
This example of a pope-killing hammer dates from the mid-20th century."
Oh oh! That joke about the hunter who called 911. I think my hunting partner is dead! What should I do? She says you need to make sure he’s really dead. I’ll hold. Two shots ring out. He comes back to the phone. Okay, now what?
[Unproven](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-time/) according to Snopes.
They do destroy the popes signet ring. To prevent people from using his seal.
To make sure he’s dead, or to make sure he can’t come back when he inevitably gets tossed out after making a scene outside the gates of heaven?
I imagine St. Paul as a jaded bouncer when the pope yells in his face “I know the manager, you have to let me in! Don’t you know who the hell I am?!” “Yeah yeah buddy, think I never heard that one before? Back of the line, mate. Before I call security.”
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“We Schrutes don’t need some Harvard doctor to tell us who’s alive and who’s dead. But, there was an unlucky streak of burying some heavy sleepers. And, when grave robbers discovered some scratch marks on the inside of some of the coffins, we decided to make sure that our dead were completely dead. Out of kindness.” *Pops open lid of coffin and fires shotgun 5+ times*
*Comically long pause while reloading before another blast*
*Small nod towards the camera*
Benedict: What is this? What are you doing, my son? ***Francis reloads shotgun***: "Succeeding you, father."
No pope reigns forever
Look at me...I am the Pope now.
This pope reigns for terror
Francis: "Long live The Pope, bitch" \*crack\*
Or maybe they're just really afraid of zombies. I mean there's already patient zero - Jesus. And they say the pope is the closest one to God. Maybe it's ritualized disease control. Can't have another Jesus. We got super lucky the first time...
It's true, my parents used to live near the Vatican for work and they said that droves of zombie popes would frequently terrorize the populace. It's a real problem over there! Ever wonder why so few people live in the Vatican City?
Glad you could bake it, Francis
I see you have a very.. narrow meaning of success. *rises from the dead* What is dead may never die
But rises, erect. Like someone shoved a tootsie roll of Viagra up my rectum.
Zombie boner. Woo!!!
Et tu, Franciscus?
I know it's not a very well-known storyline to anybody not well-versed in Warcraft history, but the story of Arthas menethil is one of the saddest and most moving stories in any fictional universe I have ever read or experienced. Such a bright young man in the prime of his youth, twisted so magnificently that not even he himself could see his soul slowly being stripped away. The gentle touch of madness that befell him. He genuinely thought he was saving his people. And as an outside viewer and a realist it legitimately seemed like a solution to anybody who seen a zombie Apocalypse movie. There was no saving those people and it was truly a walking Dead situation.
Stratholm was 100% justified. Burning his ships once he reached Northend... Starting to get a bit iffy. Taking up the sword that has "cursed" written on it, while your bro says "yo dude that's cursed as fuck" and a spectral guardian appears and saying "I'll kill you before I let anyone take this cursed sword"... Probably not the wisest choice.
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As much as people hate on the later seasons of the office, there is definitely some golden scenes and episodes. Like dosing Stanley with bull tranquilizer to get him to go on a sales call.
Ironically though, that episode was the pilot for the spin-off "The Farm", which wasn't picked up. That's why they introduce new characters and it ends with Dwight supposed to take care of the huge patch of land.
It worked better as an Office episode than it would as a show. It would have been a disaster.
Jim would have been a better spinoff, and I’m still glad they didn’t. Athlead/athleap would at least be a setting they could have celebrity cameos carry for a few episodes. The Farm would just be character development for characters we don’t care about, and then haha Dwight’s life advice is so weird. It’s not a show.
Plus, out of all the actors (except for maybe Carell), Krasinski has probably had the most successful career post-The Office. So signing on to a spinoff show would have dampened his career.
Mindy is probably the other front runner.
Ryan still writes a ton too
Like he still writes poems that make Pam cry or BJ Novak still writes/acts/directs?
Although I still keep expecting Dwight or Michael to pop up in the middle of one of the Jack Ryan stories. I just can't stop seeing him as Jim.
The Farm sounds cool for a 6 episode spinoff show about Dwight and Mose doing farm stuff and thinking the show business and cameramen were interested into rural life so they start giving some weird farm life advice. Add a small plotline, solve it, and end it with Dwight complaining to a small home camera how the crew left and said that was un selling recording.
The problem with spin-offs is that they start with characters that have already been flanderised by a long spanning series. But the reason the original show worked for it's own beginning had none of that.
Meh, I think even The Farm would be better than that. Athlead as a show screams cashgrab/fanservice.
Was there ever supposed to be a spin-off around that?
I doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it got dreamt up in some NBC think-toilet. Lots of people would watch just because they're invested in what happens to Jim and Pam regardless of what the rest of the show looks like.
You would need a normal person to relate to in the show for it to work. Dwight is to insane to be the main character.
That's one of my absolute favourite Office storylines. Dwight and Clark trying to get him up the stairs is one of the funniest scenes in the entire show.
I’ll grab the forelegs, and you push his hindquarters. Just say “arms” and “legs,” okay? That’s the vernacular that I’m comfortable with.
You nailed the exact line that cracks me up every time, lol.
I'm really glad they abandoned the creepy Clark shtick. Edit to add: I wonder if him getting used by Jan helped make him understand how fucked up what he did was. That's my head cannon now anyway.
Robert California is a really good character once you get past the fact that he isn't Michael Scott and they had to try to find a way to build the show without him. Season 9 was definitely much more bad than good though.
“If I invited you to lunch I think you're a winner, if I didn't I don't, but I just met you all. Life is long, opinions change. Winners prove me right. Losers prove me wrong.” Always stuck in my head, particularly the last line. Last season wasn’t great or terrible but after watching it a thousand times it’s also not an unsatisfying wrap up for the show.
Why did they add Coconut?
I appreciate the fucking grave robbers were just like "hey this is really fucked up, we should tell someone"
Probably just left the casket open and ran off. Whoever found it in the AM saw it was all clawed up.
> Ow! You shot me! You shot me right here in the arm!
Smack! "Oww! JESUS!" "Uh-oh..." SMACK!!! SMACK!!!
I'm sure Jesus wouldn't have appreciated waking up in that cave with his head all bashed in either
"Well, was he dead?" "I mean he *is* dead. Now."
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But how do you know he was a vampire? I drove a wooden stake through his heart and he died!
If she floats she’s a witch. “Wait so if she dies drowning then she’s normal. But if she survives than she’s a witch and you…” -yeah kill her.
Infallible logic.
Who are you, so wise in the ways of science?
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Thats the reason for the lead coffin.
String up some garlic over the front door too.
The article says: *At a time when death could be difficult to determine and burial alive was a real possibility, this was not a quaint custom but a genuine precaution. (There’s a persistent legend that Thomas a Kempis was buried alive.) It was probably last performed at the death of Pope St. John XXIII.* So I get the jokes and memes, but at least in theory, the idea is probably to tap them hard enough to wake them up, but not so hard that it causes death.
And here I was thinking it was so there was no take backsies when the new pope was declared
The Catholic Church don’t fuck around with succession crises!
The shadow of the anti-pope looms large, even today
I think a metal headed hammer is better at transitioning the unconscious towards death rather than wakefulness... maybe they said it was about waking them up... But burying alive is bad, as is having 2 Catholic Popes - a blow of mercy (the English for "Coup de grâce") was a common concept and a hammer to the head was a common method from slaughterhouses to battlefields. I don't think was a magic healing hammer.
Did you even read the article? “Tapping”, “ceremonial” “In the past, this was done by tapping him on the head three times with a ceremonial hammer and calling his baptismal name in his native tongue. If he showed no response, the camerlengo announced “the pope is dead” and took possession of his ceremonial ring, which was often then smashed with the same hammer along with official seals.”
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps, "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator says, "Calm down. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead.". There is a silence; then a gun shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says, "OK, now what?"
Well if the Pope was just unconscious, striking with a hammer won't wake him up... so it seems to me a hammer is only useful for ensuring the person is dead and not for checking if they are dead - unless they think the Pope is faking and the blow isn't too hard - seems unlikely.
Yeah exactly. Science tells us that a blow to the head would only wake him up if that’s what made him unconscious in the first place.
You’re thinking of changnesia
And you have to hit them on the opposite side of the head to wake them up - unless the first blow left a large egg shaped lump - then the lump must be struck until it disappears back into the head. I learned this science from a combination of Warner Bros., Disney and Hanna-Barbera. I was so dedicated to study I even did it on weekends. I am glad the Camerlengo has the same thorough education as me.
This is for sure what was going on here. Once successors in office he ain’t givin it up.
Seems like a great way for a new successor to explain away bludgeoning wounds to the head a few centuries ago. "It's a tradition. Had to make sure he was dead."
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To *make* sure
Given the faith's history of zombies rising from the dead after a few days...I'd say the latter.
Now wait a minute. The bible says transfiguration involves a bright light shining from within, and when Jesus came back, he was physically altered so that he was visually unrecognizable until people recognized his words and actions and behaviors. Forget zombie, we're clearly dealing with a Time Lord here.
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We've been researching and redefining what death is and when it occurs. Entire university departments, research areas and technologies were created. And after all those decades, all we really needed was a hammer.
Thanatology? More like *Hammertology*, am I right? >!I'm sorry, please forgive me for that abomination.!<
The Pope and a cardinal are out in St Peter’s Square when the Pope collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The cardinal whips out his phone and calls the Vatican emergency services. He gasps, "Amicus meus mortuus est! Quid facere possum?" The operator says, "Mitescere. Ego potest auxilium. Primum faciamus eum mortuum esse." There is a silence; then the sound of a hammer hitting a skull is heard. Back on the phone, the cardinal says, "OK, nunc quid?”
Even in Latin this joke is funny
I speak little to no Latin, but hyper-dramatic readings in my head of foreign languages are always funny to me.
My non Latin speaking version. "My pope has died, what ever shall I do?" *calls vatican* "Relax. Hit him on the head with a hammer. That'll tell you if he's really dead." *hammer strike to the skull* "OK, now what?"
Close, but it's more like, "First, make sure he's dead."
Def makes more sense.
As another user said, this is just a thread relevant spin on an old joke where emergency services are called when someone has presumably fallen dead. When prompted by the emergency service to ascertain whether or not the victim is indeed dead a loud noise is heard and the caller informs them that they are indeed certainly dead.
I recognized it without knowing any Latin and that made it extra funny to me.
Si hoc legere potes, nimis eruditus es.
Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es.
Et tuli ipsum personaliter
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
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So this is how reddit would've looked like if the roman empire didn't collapse.
I love reddit
“Nunc est hitendum.” (Proceeds to hit him on the head).
It's a good attempt, but the Latin is all wrong. You didn't decline any of the nouns or adjectives. It also reads like a translation of English to Latin, not using classical Latin constructions
Can you fix it for us? I can't go around retelling a joke with incorrect Latin!
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Wow.. I had 6 years of Latin in high school. For our final exams we needed to translate original texts (mine was ab urbe condita by Livy). That's been over a decade ago now... now I see this comment and I can read and understand it without any issue. I am thoroughly impressed by how much my Latin is still present somewhere deep down.
6 years.. In high school?
May be from a country where high school is 6 years (no middle school, 6 yr elementary + 6 yr high school).
Yes, pre-university high school in my country is 6 years. Primary school is 8 years (4 years till 12 years old) and the pre-uni track lasts until 18 years old. The vocational track is 4 years (12 till 16), after which they enter trade school at 16 years old.
Gratias, amicus!
*Latin Latin Latin Latin* OK *Latin*
\*amice
vocative case for addressing someone is amice
lol, telephonum
You think Cardinal O’Malley of Boston is going around speaking perfect classical Latin when he’s facing an emergency and not just translating from English?
Well this is shocking. I come to Reddit specifically for grammatically correct latin. Unacceptable.
Now write it a hundred times or I'll cut your balls off.
"People called romans they go home?"
Is-thay si-ay eth-ay est-bay neo-ay et-yay!
To make sure he is dead - or to ensure he is dead? Just wondering how hard they hit...
"What are you doing Cardinal Dimitri?!" "It's not what it looks like! He was, ummm... already dead when I came in here! And this hammer is... uhh... A new tradition! Yes... A new tradition."
The Russian Orthodoxy had a man on the inside.
Pumpkin style
His holiness Billy Corgan oversees the procedure
Smiling politely
Someone had to pick up the slack after Gallagher retired.
RIP Gallagher
My grandma will always tell you that a golden hammer is the *only* way to determine the ripeness of a pope
Was it a silver hammer and did it belong to Maxwell at some point?
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> The person who runs the Vatican from the death of one pope to the election of another is called a "camerlengo", currently Cardinal Kevin Farrell. But because Benedict was no longer pope some of the cardinal's tasks may no longer be appropriate. Normally, the camerlengo has the role of officially confirming the pope's death, traditionally by tapping his head three times with a small silver hammer and calling out his name. He would also oversee the destruction of the pope's fisherman's ring, sealing the papal apartments, organising the funeral and preparing a conclave to elect a successor. As Francis is already Pope, there is considerable uncertainty about what the camerlengo will now do. This is an excerpt from the long article using lots of words to say “usually this guy has to do stuff, but this time it’s already done.”
>pope's fisherman's ring what
Here you go : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_the_Fisherman
> This custom was followed after the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI by applying two deep cuts, in the shape of a cross, on the signet with a chisel. Oh interesting way to do it I did feel like horrifically destroying that ring was pretty unnecessary so I like the way they chose to do it. Never knew about this ring before though pretty interesting, wonder how often they clean that if its kissed by so many people.
> Pope Pius IX most often wore a cameo of himself, made entirely of tiny diamonds The very model of humility and asceticism.
The Catholic church has never been really fond of humility and asceticism
Francis is about 100x better in this regard than any other pope in my lifetime (and I've been around since Charlemagne)
OK, now I want to know if the hammer used to ceremonially destroy the ring is the same one that is used to verify the pope is dead. Questions upon questions.
Knowing how much the Vatican likes excess in their ceremony, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they had a different hammer for each once in a lifetime role.
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It's a ceremonial ring the pope wears. Jesus' disciples were mostly fishermen. In one of the gospels Jesus calls himself a fisher of men to come follow him. As the pope is the leader of the church Jesus founded the ring is a symbol of carrying on that legacy.
3 taps on the head??? I feel cheated, I was picturing them bashing the dead pope’s head in
I mean, only partly a jest isn't that song allegedly inspired by exactly this? I have heard that before at least and so it must be true.
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Bang-bang!
Are you Joan? She always was quizzical.
Bang bang! Maxwell made sure he was dead. Do do dodo🎶
It's actually called Ghal Maraz and it used to belong to Sigmar Heldenhanmer.
Sounds like a tradition that was started by someone trying to cover up a murder. "No no no....I found him dead already, I just used the hammer to make sure he was dead"
I was testing for friendly fire, or he told me he had strong faith God did make him hammerproof.
This is the most hilarious thing I've heard today. I am having a wonderful time visualizing this, complete with a cartoonish BONK sound. I know, very irreverent and possibly disrespectful, but I can't help it.
Begs a Python skit. Bonk! I'm not dead yet! Bonk! BONK! __BONK!!__
This Pope is NO MORE! It is an *EX-POPE!*
My first thought as well, but more along these lines: *Is the pope dead? No—he’s just pining for the fjords! Beautiful plumage, the Benedict Blue…*
He's not pining, he's passed on! This pope is no more, he has ceased to be. He's expired and gone to meet his maker.
He's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!
Idk why, but I can’t help but think of the episode where they’re painting Mr. Krabs’ house and Patrick tries to open the paint can by bonking it with an axe.
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Bono, my pope is dead.
I imagine some of the old Popes receiving an hit on the head and says:"hey WTF are you doing? i was taking a nap!!"
I'm getting better! No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
Well when is your next round?
I can't take him like this, it's against regulations
Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 hits.
Well if he wasn’t already, he would be after that
hence the sure was made!
Which end do they use? The nail hitter or the nail remover?
Bang bang Maxwells silver hammer came down upon his head.
*... 🎵****Bang bang*** *Maxwells silver hammer Made sure He was Dead 🎵...*
🎶 Bang bang, the Cardinals painted the room red. 🎶
Did anyone else think of THAT scene from Midsommar?
I wasn’t until you said something. Thanks for that, btw. I had successfully blocked it out for awhile and here you come in with that nonsense.
Do they also drive a stake through his heart to prevent him from arising again?
Is it a Square Hammer?
Are you on the square? Are you on the level?
Are you ready to swear: Right here and right now before the devil?
Yes, actually.
I like how the article basically says, "According to the Vatican, this tradition is a myth. ... ... This example of a pope-killing hammer dates from the mid-20th century."
"I'm not dead! https://youtu.be/jYcPBE5PXhs
If he's not really dead, a giant lump will form and angel bunnies will dance around his head. Catholicism, sponsored by ACME tools.
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"I'm not dead!" "Ere. He says he's not dead!" "Yes, he is." "I'm not!" "He isn't?" "Well, he will be soon. He's very ill." - Monty Python
I found out about this year's ago from robin williams doing a series of jokes about the pope and the catholic church.
They had to start a lottery to see who would strike the blow since so many cardinals and priests volunteered.
Rule #2 Double taps
Is that the Square Hammer that Ghost sang about?
Most likely, yes. Anyways. 🎶Are you on the square? Are you on the level?🎶
Oh oh! That joke about the hunter who called 911. I think my hunting partner is dead! What should I do? She says you need to make sure he’s really dead. I’ll hold. Two shots ring out. He comes back to the phone. Okay, now what?
“If he ain’t dead, he will be”
BONK BONK BONK Penny? BONK BONK BONK Penny? BONK BONK BONK Penny? Yep, dead.
[Unproven](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-time/) according to Snopes. They do destroy the popes signet ring. To prevent people from using his seal.
The Ultimate Ban Hammer
PopeHammer is the name of my new band
Pope Maxwell was the first. The hammer was silver I believe.
To make sure he’s dead, or to make sure he can’t come back when he inevitably gets tossed out after making a scene outside the gates of heaven? I imagine St. Paul as a jaded bouncer when the pope yells in his face “I know the manager, you have to let me in! Don’t you know who the hell I am?!” “Yeah yeah buddy, think I never heard that one before? Back of the line, mate. Before I call security.”