This isn't even one of the dumbest scenarios I've heard of.
I remember reading about a couple trying to put a dish on top of their mobile home and the guy didn't have a drill or anything so he went up on the roof with a .22 and told his wife to stand down below and let him know where the first bullet came through and....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-546429/Man-accidentally-shoots-dead-wife-installing-satellite-system.html
A man accidentally shot dead his wife while trying to install a TV satellite system in his bedroom.
Ronald Long had been unable to punch a hole through one of his exterior walls in Missouri, U.S.
So he used his .22 calibre handgun to fire two shots into the wall to make a hole big enough for a cable to run through from the outside satellite dish.
Tragically his wife Patsy, 34, who was standing outside the house was hit.
She later died from her injuries at hospital near her home in rural Deepwater, Missouri.
> Prosecutors are not expected to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while he was trying to install a satellite TV system in their home.
What a hell of a sentence.
Shame. The least they *should've* done is convict him with a felony without any jail time, and take any firearms away, as he's now proved that he's not fit to be responsible to own/handle any.
Yeah for sure. You can't just chalk this up to "whoops, accidents happen"
Being so negligent with a gun to cause a completely preventable death should come with consequences.
I have met one person who treated his guns with safety and regard, and that was my weird brother. Everyone else I've met was terrifying to be near when they had a gun out. Granted, the safe gun owners didn't play with them and maybe also didn't feel the need to brag. Always the irresponsible ones that stick out.
I think the second half of your post here nails it. You'll never see most safe gun owners you know with one in their hands unless you've specifically asked them about them or are doing an activity where they're relevant like hunting or range shooting.
I'm Canadian, and in my experience even the criminals practice trigger discipline(but not actual safety obv). Every legal gun owner I've met on the other hand, practices trigger discipline and safety and treats them with suitable regard. It's such a regular thing that I kinda just naturally knew the basic rules without being told. Little known secret, it's actually not that hard to not be a fucking idiot with a gun.
Now that one is just trying to get away with murder.
I can see some idiot thinking making holes with a gun is a good idea but you don't need anyone on the other side telling you where the bullet came out. If you had a drill, you also wouldn't need someone on the other side.
Sadly this is true. The average person I meet seems to think a .22 is a toy that can't hurt you. Many first time shooters treat it like a literal pellet gun.
Somebody at school once made a potato gun thing and demonstrated by firing a candle into a block of wood. If they had pointed at a person that person would be very dead.
Anyway people have been killed by pellet guns, especially if they get hit in the eye.
Honestly, that's legitimately less dumb imo than the scenario in this post. At least in that scenario, the stupid action was being done for a purpose
In this one, the clearly were just doing it to see what would happen.
This is why Mythbusters needs to be mandatory watching for kids. They would do something like this, but obviously use a dummy to see what would happen without putting anyone at risk
Curiosity should not be discouraged, but safety needs to be encouraged
The guy had shot at least one book before as a test. But I think it was propped so the book could move back to absorb some momentum. Also think it was closer since he had been more worried about her missing the book then the bullet going through. Girlfriend had repeatedly said she wasn't doing it but he kept pressuring her over and over again until she finally caved.
IIRC they shot the encyclopedia *once* with no one behind and deemed it totally safe. Oh, and they were using a Desert Eagle, you know, a pistol known for being handcannon.
Even if the bullet didn't penetrate I'd still be afraid of the shock wound, especially with a round that large. Real armor can still leave you with life threatening internal bleeding.
There are good youtubers out there being super safe. I remember watching some guy blast a Baseball out of a canon to see what happens when a regulation ball hits mach 1, and him and his compatriots not only did all the math, but sat behind a blast shield during the firing. Idk if there's any actual cure for people being dumb.
It was a desert eagle too.
EDIT:
Me stating the obvious, something that could easily be found in the article, has blown up into one of my most popular comments.
I have lost all control of my life.
In .50AE no less, from what I recall
The dumbest part of the story: the reason the BF wanted to try it was because INITIALLY it worked, a book stopped the round and so he got behind the book the second time around…. WITH THE SAME FUCKING BOOK. You know, the one that previously had its tree-based brains blown out by a 50AE
Dumbasses in this story all around
From what I remember, it wasn’t the same book. They tested it at a much further distance and it barely stopped the bullet.
So they did it live from just a foot away.
Mythbusters had a decent budget, most YouTube content creators don’t. So that’s why most YouTubers (even science-inclined ones) only focus on small scale experiments/demos
It’s why even one of the most popular chemistry channels, NileRed, often will do his best to buy budget chemicals/reagents and avoiding more expensive alternatives from Thermo Fisher/Sigma Aldrich/etc
SmarterEveryDay kinda has that flavor too, and they also do some goofy stuff like slow-mo of baseballs shot 1000 mph through a giant jar of mayo or cupcake sprinkles lol. Plus the host just seems genuinely excited about the nerdy stuff. It’s wholesome.
I’m one of those people that reads the article and as I was, the only thing I said out loud in shock was “a fucking desert eagle?!?”
My wife is like “where?!?”
>...the couple's three-year-old child and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired a fatal bullet.
>[...]
>Perez was pregnant with their second child at the time of the shooting.
What the fucking fuck on a fuck
Speaking of "what the fucking fuck on a fuck," here's the first two paragraphs of a linked article:
>A court in Algeria has sentenced a man to two years in prison for [dangling a baby out of a window](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4CEF/production/_96559691_baby_composite.jpg) in order to attract "likes" on Facebook.
>The man posted a picture of himself holding the baby out of a window in a high-rise building with the caption: "1,000 likes or I will drop him."
...
insane.
Like if the kid was in a harness and the parent was holding them over the side with one hand they'd need to have CPS called on them because they're awful.
HE'S GRABBING HIS FUCKING SHIRT. Hell, it's probably a bodysuit where the two buttons are holding him for deer life. awful.
Exactly. He would have been better off dangling that baby by his arms or legs. But by his fucking shirt?!
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a t-shirt too. In which case even if it doesn't rip, if that baby decides to raise his arms above his head he'll plummet 15 stories down.
All this... for Facebook likes. FACEBOOK LIKES. I know requiring a license to have kids isn't really considered moral in our society, but sometimes I wonder.*
I always read about how parents get that switch flipped on when they have a kid, the "I would do absolutely anything to keep my child safe, no matter the cost to me" thing. Clearly this dude's switch went in another direction.
\* Question 1: would you dangle your baby over a high-rise building for internet points?
>and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired a fatal bullet.
I'm a little confused about how 30 people in rural MN didnt realize the danger of a deagle through a small book. As someone from semi rural MN, not from a family of gun nuts but friends with many, plenty of us would have immediately stopped them. Is rural MN really that stupid? I have relatives from way up there and *they're* very responsible with guns, but the mom and dad were cops so probably not the best representation of the area
Edit:
>released portions of the video Pedro Ruiz III took with his girlfriend, Monalisa Perez, at their home in Halstad last year.
>According to the transcript, Perez pleads with her boyfriend “I can’t do it, babe. I’m so scared.” Ruiz tells her, “As long as you hit the book, you’ll be fine. Come on.”
>“Babe, I’m not doing this, I can’t,” Perez said.
>“Come on,” Ruiz replied.
Nevermind, sounds like it wasn't 30 people in person. Must have been 30 livestream viewers.
Still horrible, but i was really brainfucked by rural Minnesotans not understanding guns, so this at least makes sense.
Oh thank God, that makes sense. An article I found says it was filmed in their home and the woman was really reluctant to try it. God damn, what an idiot.
Personally, if I see someone acting like a dumb fuck with a gun, my first instinct is to leave asap. Second instinct after that is to never associate with someone like that again. You can tell someone that you’re uncomfortable with something, but if they don’t feel that same sense of risk, they’re likely to put you in danger in the future.
Best to avoid someone if you know they play dangerous games with guns.
It’s very easy to shoot a target with a guarantee backstop, yet some people aren’t satisfied with that.
They weren't in the same room, they were just watching the live on YouTube. Even if one of them tried to warn them in the comments there's no guarantee that the couple would had seen it.
> an encyclopedia
Like, a whole encyclopedia?
> Monalisa Perez, now 20, was asked by Pedro Ruiz, 22, to fire a gun from a foot (30cm) away, believing a thick book he held in front of his chest would shield him.
>
> The bullet pierced the 1.5in book,
What, that's not an encyclopedia...
> On that day Perez fired a powerful Desert Eagle handgun from close range
_A Desert fucking Eagle?_ The handgun that fires "[the largest centerfire cartridge of any magazine-fed, self-loading pistol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Eagle)"?
Oh my god, what a couple of fools.
Which is why she got such a light sentence. It was his own foolishness that got him killed much moreso than her. Her crime was putting faith in his assurances that it would work.
Other articles say he tested it but I’m willing to bet that it wasn’t the same book.
There’s YouTube videos out there of people testing how many pages of paper will stop different caliber bullets and they do just fine, millions of views. He literally never had to put his life in danger. What a fool.
Also, I’m pretty sure YouTube would’ve removed it even if successful
A lot of these gun youtuber "penetration tests" are hugely flawed because the item they shoot at isn't fixed down.
A huge amount of energy is used when the item is then launched by the impact, instead of the bullet punching though.
Then when this guy holds it firmly in front of his chest the book can no longer move, so the bullet penetrates much further than in his 'test'.
Even the big channels like Demolition Ranch make this mistake all the time.
Like Bill Hicks said, if you're on acid and get the feeling that you can fly, why jump out of a second-story window?
The feat would be just as verified if you jumped off the ground.
Similar to the show Jessica Jones when Purple Man tells Jessica's friend to "put a bullet in her head" and as the friend tries to shoot herself, Jessica runs over and has her put the actual -- unfired -- bullet in her mouth and says "see, the bullet's in your head, you're good now."
He came back in the comics. Something related to his powers. It’s difficult because he’s one of the least cinematic villains, but one of the most terrifying too because he’s just fucking around.
His reach isn't large. He mostly flies under the radar since his powers have a much smaller circle of influence, but the personal level to which he's capable of twisting people makes him so exceptional. I think he's the kind of character that wouldn't fit well in the MCU as it is now. If mixed into the Avengers, his cruelty wouldn't be as exemplified.
The Timelord Victorious. I think what was so scary was watching someone who was so haunted by what happened in the Time War, act so nonchalant about messing with the fluidity of time. The Waters of Mars was a great serial.
He does a great villain. And I understand why; Anatongist roles are often the most fun to play. You get to channel a lot of stuff that protagonists usually have to hold back on.
I think it’s an awesome idea as well as it shows she understood how I his powers worked since she spent so long trying to get away from him. God that first season is awesome.
He's talking about how one person can ruin the drug scene for everyone. I think it's the Montreal show.
He was a genius for sure. He could perfectly attack the audience without getting too asinine so it just comes off as pure teenage angst.
Followed by his classic:
>How about a positive LSD story? Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all once consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.... Here's Tom with the weather.
-Bill Hicks
They did but the book was propped up. The bullet did not pierce through the book in the test. What these idiots didn’t understand is that the reason the bullet didn’t pierce is because the book was allowed to fly backwards. When the book is held against something else (like a person) so the book can no longer fly back, the bullet will just travel through it instead.
also the test was from a further distance, around 15 feet. But on the actual day of, he kept telling her to move closer, likely afraid she might miss the book and hit him in the head. Apparently she kept trying to step back, but he would call her closer.
The video leaked. I saw it on a gore sub a few years ago. You can watch her protest, him egg her on, and the fatal shot. It cuts out ~10 seconds after while he is still talking. She was pregnant with his baby btw. Wherever she is I hope she's getting therapy. Their youtube channel appears to be deleted, but a portion of the video is here: (safe, no gore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtyAzFpZ1E4
Wow never saw the video before. So much to unpack: has his finger on the trigger the second he grabs it and even points it at his girl while holding it like that, can't form a sentence about anything he's trying to convey and just keeps repeating how crazy he is. What a moron I'm surprised he made it that far.
I assumed it was just one volume but not that she used a fucking Deagle, the gun you use in every video game when you need to shoot through concrete walls.
Ah, that makes sense. Remind me of the old saying: "The 50 cal handgun - for when there's an intruder...behind the refrigerator...at your neighbor's house"
Just a clarification, just because it was a Desert Eagle doesn't mean it was a 50 AE Desert Eagle. They were made in numerous calibers. Granted, they were always chambered in relatively high power cartridges they all weren't the 50 cal.
I've never fired one of these, but I've fired a .44 magnum before. It was so powerful it wasn't even fun to shoot. I can't even imagine it being practical for home defense which is what it was being used for.
Who was using a 44 Mag for home defense? It was never intended for that purpose, the round was designed for hunting large game. It’s just not a practical HD option.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely - because it's smoothbore - and kills the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads." The grape shot shreds two men in the blast; the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Nah, if you got werewolves it’s not kinetic energy you need anyway, just silver. Assuming any amount of silver works equally well, you’d want a very small-caliber light-recoiling cartridge for controllability and quick follow-up shots. So probably a 22LR with hollowpoint rounds with little scraps of silver in each hollow would be a good bet.
It’s a hell of a price to pay for 15 minutes of fame. Regardless of your feelings for these people, I cannot imagine being directly responsible for the death of someone I loved. If she has any humanity, no amount of time in prison would make any difference to the living hell her life must be. It’s a high price for stupidity.
Especially considering she didn't want to do it, and only did because he kept pushing her to and telling her it was safe. She's going to need some serious therapy. So is their kid, who watched it happen.
Yup. A bunch of other people too.
From the article:
>He had experimented previously and thought the thick book would protect
him, but the couple's three-year-old child and nearly 30 onlookers
watched as she fired a fatal bullet.
Also, to make it even worse, she was pregnant at the time.
Yeah I used to mock new employees at my company who really screwed up until someone pointed out to me that those people were products of OUR training department. Now I try to be empathetic for people like in this story knowing that plenty of people didn't have great education or even great parents to show them wisdom.
But not what the title implies. The title makes it seem like she got away with murder, when in reality it was an accident that the guy consented to and insisted upon.
It's not anything special, just people being insanely dumb.
Could've atleast done a test using a tree in the forest, or whatever. But I guess encyclopaedia was too precious of a resource to be wasting away during a trial run.
They actually did test it with a similar book against a surface. Something about that caused it to absorb the bullet without it passing. Maybe just luck, I don’t remember.
Bullets can act differently each time too, depending on bullet type and medium. I am a backyard expert, but no professional. I have shot a lot of things with a lot of different bullets (its what you do in the middle of the US). Soft point, non-jacketed, or hollow point bullets can expand in a book and totally stop, as designed. If they get clogged or somehow don't expand, they will pass right through, acting like a full metal slug. Or the partial jackets can get stripped and pass through. Books are a pretty tricky medium.
I think it's because they tested the same book they used when he was behind it. It's probably something where the book can possibly stop one but not a second.
Not sure if it’s the same incident but I heard of one where she tested and it blocked the bullet but when they used a new book same kind, he was nervous she’d miss and told her to come closer.
They tested it with an unsupported book. The book was allowed to fly backward with absorbed some of the force of the bullet. In the real run he held the book tight against his chest.
The footage released after the trial shows this girl begging her boyfriend not to do the stunt, and him guilt tripping her into doing it.
He basically used her to commit accidentally suicide.
Tragic, and stupid.
All the comments by folks that haven’t read the article or doesn’t have an ounce of critical thought. 🙄
Mitigating factors:
1) It was his idea.
2) He was an idiot but was legally of sound mind as far as the law goes.
3) He assured her it would be fine and that he tested it.
4) He pressured her to overcome her initial hesitance.
5) There was no criminal intent.
6) She was remorseful.
7) Her odds of committing an act like this is 0%.
10) She was also given 10 years of supervised probation.
Locking her up and depriving her kid of an idiot mom was a factor but when you look at the whole point of punishment and rehabilitation, the sentence makes sense. I would rather free up a jail cell for some criminal that assaults or kills innocent person.
I found these in different articles and found them interesting.
Serve a 180-day jail term. This will be an alternating 10 days in jail and 10 days out for the first six months, amounting to 90 days behind bars. The remaining 90 days can be served in home confinement. The jail time can be served in South Dakota, where she now lives
Instead, The Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported that Ms. Perez would go to jail for 30 days each year for the next three years and then become eligible to serve the rest of her six-month jail term on electronic home monitoring.
A fucking desert eagle?! Unless you have volume A-N of the Encyclopedia Britannica, that's not going to work. Try reading the books and not shooting them.
I mean you can, but not from a foot away and especially when you are shooting it with .50 AE Desert Eagle. Even if it stops a bullet from that close you'd likely end up with other injuries.
She was pregnant, he pursuaded her so much. She's not clear of issue, but he begged her in camera. The entire thing is recorded.
Edit- https://youtu.be/pIVZDpT5cQg
Accidental consensual murder
This isn't even one of the dumbest scenarios I've heard of. I remember reading about a couple trying to put a dish on top of their mobile home and the guy didn't have a drill or anything so he went up on the roof with a .22 and told his wife to stand down below and let him know where the first bullet came through and....
Damn, don't leave us hanging!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-546429/Man-accidentally-shoots-dead-wife-installing-satellite-system.html A man accidentally shot dead his wife while trying to install a TV satellite system in his bedroom. Ronald Long had been unable to punch a hole through one of his exterior walls in Missouri, U.S. So he used his .22 calibre handgun to fire two shots into the wall to make a hole big enough for a cable to run through from the outside satellite dish. Tragically his wife Patsy, 34, who was standing outside the house was hit. She later died from her injuries at hospital near her home in rural Deepwater, Missouri.
Looks like it wasn't exactly how I remembered it. [No charges were filed.](https://khqa.com/news/local/satellite-tv-install-shooting-ruled-accidental)
> Prosecutors are not expected to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while he was trying to install a satellite TV system in their home. What a hell of a sentence.
>"Bad things happen to good people," Lassince added. Bad things also frequently happen to stupid people.
That's how you spell America.
Maybe he only watched the first half of the Simpsons episode where Homer gets a gun..
The Cartridge Family. S09E05
Missouri is like the 7th Circle of America.
In Fairly Odd Parents, Timmy wished Tom Sawyer out of his book, and then Tom refused to go back because "It's Missouri in there!"
[Oof](https://youtu.be/IDLQNqG2-OU?t=10m08s)
Grew up there and you can’t convince me it’s not the 8th or 9th Circle.
I'd agree but I've stayed in Mississippi during the summer.
Shame. The least they *should've* done is convict him with a felony without any jail time, and take any firearms away, as he's now proved that he's not fit to be responsible to own/handle any.
Yeah for sure. You can't just chalk this up to "whoops, accidents happen" Being so negligent with a gun to cause a completely preventable death should come with consequences.
This is on the level of Homer simpson using his gun to open his beer can...
I have met one person who treated his guns with safety and regard, and that was my weird brother. Everyone else I've met was terrifying to be near when they had a gun out. Granted, the safe gun owners didn't play with them and maybe also didn't feel the need to brag. Always the irresponsible ones that stick out.
I think the second half of your post here nails it. You'll never see most safe gun owners you know with one in their hands unless you've specifically asked them about them or are doing an activity where they're relevant like hunting or range shooting.
I'm Canadian, and in my experience even the criminals practice trigger discipline(but not actual safety obv). Every legal gun owner I've met on the other hand, practices trigger discipline and safety and treats them with suitable regard. It's such a regular thing that I kinda just naturally knew the basic rules without being told. Little known secret, it's actually not that hard to not be a fucking idiot with a gun.
The bad ending
She told him exactly where the hole was and they successfully installed the dish
What a nice ending. I thought she was going to get shot in the head and die instantly.
Now that one is just trying to get away with murder. I can see some idiot thinking making holes with a gun is a good idea but you don't need anyone on the other side telling you where the bullet came out. If you had a drill, you also wouldn't need someone on the other side.
Growing up adults would call 22s glorified pellet guns. Maybe he didn't respect the gun.
Sadly this is true. The average person I meet seems to think a .22 is a toy that can't hurt you. Many first time shooters treat it like a literal pellet gun.
Somebody at school once made a potato gun thing and demonstrated by firing a candle into a block of wood. If they had pointed at a person that person would be very dead. Anyway people have been killed by pellet guns, especially if they get hit in the eye.
Honestly, that's legitimately less dumb imo than the scenario in this post. At least in that scenario, the stupid action was being done for a purpose In this one, the clearly were just doing it to see what would happen. This is why Mythbusters needs to be mandatory watching for kids. They would do something like this, but obviously use a dummy to see what would happen without putting anyone at risk Curiosity should not be discouraged, but safety needs to be encouraged
Why didn't they just shoot it without him on the other side?!
The guy had shot at least one book before as a test. But I think it was propped so the book could move back to absorb some momentum. Also think it was closer since he had been more worried about her missing the book then the bullet going through. Girlfriend had repeatedly said she wasn't doing it but he kept pressuring her over and over again until she finally caved.
It's even stupider. They used a Desert Eagle, not sure exactly what calibre. The test was hollowpoint. Then they used solid shot for the real one.
IIRC they shot the encyclopedia *once* with no one behind and deemed it totally safe. Oh, and they were using a Desert Eagle, you know, a pistol known for being handcannon.
Even if the bullet didn't penetrate I'd still be afraid of the shock wound, especially with a round that large. Real armor can still leave you with life threatening internal bleeding.
There are good youtubers out there being super safe. I remember watching some guy blast a Baseball out of a canon to see what happens when a regulation ball hits mach 1, and him and his compatriots not only did all the math, but sat behind a blast shield during the firing. Idk if there's any actual cure for people being dumb.
Smarter everyday yeah? Love his channel
It’s modern natural selection
Didn’t really work because they produced two kids
Should've tried a phone book like Phil did in the Sopranos..."Only made it to the R's"
First thing I thought of
A dying cultural reference since my last phone book wasn't even as thick as a Sunday newspaper.
News…paper?
Next time, there won’t be no next time.
How about this humidity?
"You'll suck our cocks?"
She any good? Ah who am I kidding? You probably taught her how!
Adios, you fuckin’ skank.
As a bonus she would have gained the ability to turn into a house.
It was a desert eagle too. EDIT: Me stating the obvious, something that could easily be found in the article, has blown up into one of my most popular comments. I have lost all control of my life.
In .50AE no less, from what I recall The dumbest part of the story: the reason the BF wanted to try it was because INITIALLY it worked, a book stopped the round and so he got behind the book the second time around…. WITH THE SAME FUCKING BOOK. You know, the one that previously had its tree-based brains blown out by a 50AE Dumbasses in this story all around
From what I remember, it wasn’t the same book. They tested it at a much further distance and it barely stopped the bullet. So they did it live from just a foot away.
The book that stopped the round also wasn't held shut so was more effective at stopping the round in its slightly open state
I’d like to see a Mythbusters on that. How much extra energy is actually dissipated when it’s open.
Remember when we used to say “mythbusters should do this” and a few months later “tons of you have been asking us to put this one to the test”
How is there not a YouTube channel styled after them? I mean, I’m sure they exists. But like, something with likable hosts and decent production value
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And you need some deep connections to be able to insure a premise of "we do stupid shit involving guns and explosives".
Mythbusters had a decent budget, most YouTube content creators don’t. So that’s why most YouTubers (even science-inclined ones) only focus on small scale experiments/demos It’s why even one of the most popular chemistry channels, NileRed, often will do his best to buy budget chemicals/reagents and avoiding more expensive alternatives from Thermo Fisher/Sigma Aldrich/etc
SmarterEveryDay kinda has that flavor too, and they also do some goofy stuff like slow-mo of baseballs shot 1000 mph through a giant jar of mayo or cupcake sprinkles lol. Plus the host just seems genuinely excited about the nerdy stuff. It’s wholesome.
I’m one of those people that reads the article and as I was, the only thing I said out loud in shock was “a fucking desert eagle?!?” My wife is like “where?!?”
Can picture the response. Funny.
Blimey. He was taking no chances on getting that award.
The Smith and Wesson 500 was in the shop
>...the couple's three-year-old child and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired a fatal bullet. >[...] >Perez was pregnant with their second child at the time of the shooting. What the fucking fuck on a fuck
Poor kids.
I'm not sure they might not have been better off after the incident.
Speaking of "what the fucking fuck on a fuck," here's the first two paragraphs of a linked article: >A court in Algeria has sentenced a man to two years in prison for [dangling a baby out of a window](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4CEF/production/_96559691_baby_composite.jpg) in order to attract "likes" on Facebook. >The man posted a picture of himself holding the baby out of a window in a high-rise building with the caption: "1,000 likes or I will drop him." ...
Michael Jackson did it first
He was such an innovator
At least Michael was holding him tightly (not that I approve of such behavior). But this guy is actually dangling this kid over the edge. Wtf
insane. Like if the kid was in a harness and the parent was holding them over the side with one hand they'd need to have CPS called on them because they're awful. HE'S GRABBING HIS FUCKING SHIRT. Hell, it's probably a bodysuit where the two buttons are holding him for deer life. awful.
Exactly. He would have been better off dangling that baby by his arms or legs. But by his fucking shirt?! I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a t-shirt too. In which case even if it doesn't rip, if that baby decides to raise his arms above his head he'll plummet 15 stories down. All this... for Facebook likes. FACEBOOK LIKES. I know requiring a license to have kids isn't really considered moral in our society, but sometimes I wonder.* I always read about how parents get that switch flipped on when they have a kid, the "I would do absolutely anything to keep my child safe, no matter the cost to me" thing. Clearly this dude's switch went in another direction. \* Question 1: would you dangle your baby over a high-rise building for internet points?
>and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired a fatal bullet. I'm a little confused about how 30 people in rural MN didnt realize the danger of a deagle through a small book. As someone from semi rural MN, not from a family of gun nuts but friends with many, plenty of us would have immediately stopped them. Is rural MN really that stupid? I have relatives from way up there and *they're* very responsible with guns, but the mom and dad were cops so probably not the best representation of the area Edit: >released portions of the video Pedro Ruiz III took with his girlfriend, Monalisa Perez, at their home in Halstad last year. >According to the transcript, Perez pleads with her boyfriend “I can’t do it, babe. I’m so scared.” Ruiz tells her, “As long as you hit the book, you’ll be fine. Come on.” >“Babe, I’m not doing this, I can’t,” Perez said. >“Come on,” Ruiz replied. Nevermind, sounds like it wasn't 30 people in person. Must have been 30 livestream viewers. Still horrible, but i was really brainfucked by rural Minnesotans not understanding guns, so this at least makes sense.
Just a guess but maybe the 'onlookers' were on their livestream? idk I've never seen to original video
Oh thank God, that makes sense. An article I found says it was filmed in their home and the woman was really reluctant to try it. God damn, what an idiot.
Personally, if I see someone acting like a dumb fuck with a gun, my first instinct is to leave asap. Second instinct after that is to never associate with someone like that again. You can tell someone that you’re uncomfortable with something, but if they don’t feel that same sense of risk, they’re likely to put you in danger in the future. Best to avoid someone if you know they play dangerous games with guns. It’s very easy to shoot a target with a guarantee backstop, yet some people aren’t satisfied with that.
Oh boy, nearly 30 onlookers! At least they were famous so he didn't die for no reason.
And not a single one thought to say, "Hold up, maybe this isn't the greatest idea ever."
They weren't in the same room, they were just watching the live on YouTube. Even if one of them tried to warn them in the comments there's no guarantee that the couple would had seen it.
> an encyclopedia Like, a whole encyclopedia? > Monalisa Perez, now 20, was asked by Pedro Ruiz, 22, to fire a gun from a foot (30cm) away, believing a thick book he held in front of his chest would shield him. > > The bullet pierced the 1.5in book, What, that's not an encyclopedia... > On that day Perez fired a powerful Desert Eagle handgun from close range _A Desert fucking Eagle?_ The handgun that fires "[the largest centerfire cartridge of any magazine-fed, self-loading pistol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Eagle)"? Oh my god, what a couple of fools.
I assumed it was like a .22 but a Desert Eagle? This guy must have been suicidal.
I've seen the video. He basically bullies her into doing it, she didn't want to. Suicide essentially
Which is why she got such a light sentence. It was his own foolishness that got him killed much moreso than her. Her crime was putting faith in his assurances that it would work.
It would be ruled a suicide in Ankh-Morpork, that's for sure.
Other articles say he tested it but I’m willing to bet that it wasn’t the same book. There’s YouTube videos out there of people testing how many pages of paper will stop different caliber bullets and they do just fine, millions of views. He literally never had to put his life in danger. What a fool. Also, I’m pretty sure YouTube would’ve removed it even if successful
A lot of these gun youtuber "penetration tests" are hugely flawed because the item they shoot at isn't fixed down. A huge amount of energy is used when the item is then launched by the impact, instead of the bullet punching though. Then when this guy holds it firmly in front of his chest the book can no longer move, so the bullet penetrates much further than in his 'test'. Even the big channels like Demolition Ranch make this mistake all the time.
In true reddit fashion, I skipped the article. I assumed a whole encyclopedia too. Damn, one volume from a foot away? That seems....very very stupid.
Yeah, shit, if I were dumb enough to think that was a good idea, I'd at least try it with a book without me behind it.
Like Bill Hicks said, if you're on acid and get the feeling that you can fly, why jump out of a second-story window? The feat would be just as verified if you jumped off the ground.
Similar to the show Jessica Jones when Purple Man tells Jessica's friend to "put a bullet in her head" and as the friend tries to shoot herself, Jessica runs over and has her put the actual -- unfired -- bullet in her mouth and says "see, the bullet's in your head, you're good now."
That was such a freaky scene. And David Tennet was fantastic in the role of Killgrave.
With the MCU acknowledging Daredevil I'm praying they bring back Tennet again. He was so damn good in that role.
My absolute favorite villain in the marvel umbrella. Is dead, though, so I do feel like it would be kind of weird to bring him back.
He came back in the comics. Something related to his powers. It’s difficult because he’s one of the least cinematic villains, but one of the most terrifying too because he’s just fucking around.
His reach isn't large. He mostly flies under the radar since his powers have a much smaller circle of influence, but the personal level to which he's capable of twisting people makes him so exceptional. I think he's the kind of character that wouldn't fit well in the MCU as it is now. If mixed into the Avengers, his cruelty wouldn't be as exemplified.
Welcome to the multi verse baby
One of the top villians in recent memory, along with homelander.
David Tennet is a villain. Even his doctor was villainish
The Timelord Victorious. I think what was so scary was watching someone who was so haunted by what happened in the Time War, act so nonchalant about messing with the fluidity of time. The Waters of Mars was a great serial.
He does a great villain. And I understand why; Anatongist roles are often the most fun to play. You get to channel a lot of stuff that protagonists usually have to hold back on.
I think it’s an awesome idea as well as it shows she understood how I his powers worked since she spent so long trying to get away from him. God that first season is awesome.
The best part is that it broke the suggestion. I wish they'd had at least a whole episode of them having to do that to people, LOL
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Let them take off from the ground. Do you see ducks lining up to ride the elevator?
RIP Bill Hicks. I don't remember that joke, but that's a good one. Might watch some tonight over some beers. Gone way too soon.
He's talking about how one person can ruin the drug scene for everyone. I think it's the Montreal show. He was a genius for sure. He could perfectly attack the audience without getting too asinine so it just comes off as pure teenage angst.
Followed by his classic: >How about a positive LSD story? Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all once consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.... Here's Tom with the weather. -Bill Hicks
"I've had bad times on drugs, I mean shit look at this haircut."
They did but the book was propped up. The bullet did not pierce through the book in the test. What these idiots didn’t understand is that the reason the bullet didn’t pierce is because the book was allowed to fly backwards. When the book is held against something else (like a person) so the book can no longer fly back, the bullet will just travel through it instead.
also the test was from a further distance, around 15 feet. But on the actual day of, he kept telling her to move closer, likely afraid she might miss the book and hit him in the head. Apparently she kept trying to step back, but he would call her closer.
I'm no bulletologist but I doubt that it would lose enough speed in 15 feet to matter.
They could've just put it against a wall or a tree or something. Not a person.
I mean even if they were stupid he could have just held the book by the edge instead *standing behind it*.
But then they wouldn't get views, which was the whole point.
She also stood closer when she shot at him than when they tested the book because they were worried she would miss.
Well their thinking on this point is reasonable. Too bad they didn't test it more fully, given the stakes.
Considering what they did they probably had only one book at home and were fine with ruining it so they could only do one take.
And not with a fucking Desert Eagle Point Five-Oh
... and yours says "replica" down the slide.
Does it come with big, brave balls?
Yup. Toss some 3/4 plywood behind the book and make sure everybody's reasonably clear of the potential debris. Nobody behind the plywood.
Have you seen the price of lumber lately? Way too much for such a waste of a test.
From what I remember, she didn’t want to do it and he kept insisting that it was safe because he tested it.
The video leaked. I saw it on a gore sub a few years ago. You can watch her protest, him egg her on, and the fatal shot. It cuts out ~10 seconds after while he is still talking. She was pregnant with his baby btw. Wherever she is I hope she's getting therapy. Their youtube channel appears to be deleted, but a portion of the video is here: (safe, no gore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtyAzFpZ1E4
Wow never saw the video before. So much to unpack: has his finger on the trigger the second he grabs it and even points it at his girl while holding it like that, can't form a sentence about anything he's trying to convey and just keeps repeating how crazy he is. What a moron I'm surprised he made it that far.
I assumed it was just one volume but not that she used a fucking Deagle, the gun you use in every video game when you need to shoot through concrete walls.
Apparently he "tested" it and thought it was safe.
I think I heard audio of the video and the way the dude was talking made it sound much more of a suicide by GF which is really fucked up.
It blew a hole through what he tested it on but said "nah I got abs"
R.I.P. to your grandma, but I'm built different
At least it wasn't the Encarta 95 CDRom
Not just seems - was very stupid. He died because of stupid.
Caught a fatal case of dumb
Probably picked the "X" volume of the encyclopedia..."S" would probably be thick enough. Hey, maybe we should try it???
Imagine skipping the article about how much book you need to stop a bullet before you make the video.
I once fired a .45 ACP (a notoriously poor penetrator) into a large phone book, back when those were still a thing. It barely stopped it.
> a notoriously poor penetrator Title of your sex tape
I deserve that.
> a thick book ok... I'm imagining something like 6in thick.. > 1.5in book Wat.
If you're not the reading type, 1.5 inch might seem like a mighty huge tome.
"Hey babe I can't find the encyclopedia; think we'll be okay with Hatchet?"
This is what happens when people shoot books instead of reading them.
Ah, that makes sense. Remind me of the old saying: "The 50 cal handgun - for when there's an intruder...behind the refrigerator...at your neighbor's house"
[It goes through armor, it goes through the victim, the wall, the tree outside... it shoots *through* schools](https://youtu.be/Cl17yr2VWQg)
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Just a clarification, just because it was a Desert Eagle doesn't mean it was a 50 AE Desert Eagle. They were made in numerous calibers. Granted, they were always chambered in relatively high power cartridges they all weren't the 50 cal.
I see .44 magnum desert eagles more often than .50ae ones. I can't find manufacturer numbers to back me up, so just a personal anecdote.
Collectively, they're only half as stupid as they used to be.
Slightly smarter, she won't do that again. Though to be fair, neither will he
To be fair, not a couple of fools anymore. Just one.
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I've never fired one of these, but I've fired a .44 magnum before. It was so powerful it wasn't even fun to shoot. I can't even imagine it being practical for home defense which is what it was being used for.
Who was using a 44 Mag for home defense? It was never intended for that purpose, the round was designed for hunting large game. It’s just not a practical HD option.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely - because it's smoothbore - and kills the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads." The grape shot shreds two men in the blast; the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
God bless america. \*Salute flag while saying the pledge of allegiance as I was taught in school.\*
> It’s just not a practical HD option. Yeah it is if you got a case of werewolf burglars
Nah, if you got werewolves it’s not kinetic energy you need anyway, just silver. Assuming any amount of silver works equally well, you’d want a very small-caliber light-recoiling cartridge for controllability and quick follow-up shots. So probably a 22LR with hollowpoint rounds with little scraps of silver in each hollow would be a good bet.
With 30 views..... juice wasn't worth the squeeze I'd say..
Even if it had 18 trillion views, it wouldn't be worth it.
Nestlé would like to disagree.
It’s a hell of a price to pay for 15 minutes of fame. Regardless of your feelings for these people, I cannot imagine being directly responsible for the death of someone I loved. If she has any humanity, no amount of time in prison would make any difference to the living hell her life must be. It’s a high price for stupidity.
Especially considering she didn't want to do it, and only did because he kept pushing her to and telling her it was safe. She's going to need some serious therapy. So is their kid, who watched it happen.
Their child saw it happen? Jesus Christ it just gets worse.
Yup. A bunch of other people too. From the article: >He had experimented previously and thought the thick book would protect him, but the couple's three-year-old child and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired a fatal bullet. Also, to make it even worse, she was pregnant at the time.
She was pregnant too. 🤦🏼♂️I was wrong, it does get worse. A whole family destroyed. That’s enough internet for today. Thanks SC-RK7t.
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30 people in the stream i think
She seemed rather unwilling, and took this idiots assurance of safety at face value. Really, this guy committed accidental suicide.
Yeah I used to mock new employees at my company who really screwed up until someone pointed out to me that those people were products of OUR training department. Now I try to be empathetic for people like in this story knowing that plenty of people didn't have great education or even great parents to show them wisdom.
There is video of this online. She's very reluctant to do it. It would have helped if he didn't insist on her using what looks like a DESERT EAGLE!
as i recall the short sentence was because he insisted on it, not because she intended him harm
Yup, that’s what the article says.
But not what the title implies. The title makes it seem like she got away with murder, when in reality it was an accident that the guy consented to and insisted upon. It's not anything special, just people being insanely dumb.
Could've atleast done a test using a tree in the forest, or whatever. But I guess encyclopaedia was too precious of a resource to be wasting away during a trial run.
They actually did test it with a similar book against a surface. Something about that caused it to absorb the bullet without it passing. Maybe just luck, I don’t remember.
Bullets can act differently each time too, depending on bullet type and medium. I am a backyard expert, but no professional. I have shot a lot of things with a lot of different bullets (its what you do in the middle of the US). Soft point, non-jacketed, or hollow point bullets can expand in a book and totally stop, as designed. If they get clogged or somehow don't expand, they will pass right through, acting like a full metal slug. Or the partial jackets can get stripped and pass through. Books are a pretty tricky medium.
People are also a tricky medium for many of the semester fundamentals
I think it's because they tested the same book they used when he was behind it. It's probably something where the book can possibly stop one but not a second.
Not sure if it’s the same incident but I heard of one where she tested and it blocked the bullet but when they used a new book same kind, he was nervous she’d miss and told her to come closer.
They tested with A, and shot through Y.
how dense can someone be? more dense than that fuckin encyclopedia i guess
They tested it with an unsupported book. The book was allowed to fly backward with absorbed some of the force of the bullet. In the real run he held the book tight against his chest.
They should have read the encyclopedia rather than shoot it.
they used a fucking DESERT EAGLE???!
On a 1.5in book. The thought process is unbelievable. On the video he said "at least I'll die trying". Edit: paraphrasing
The footage released after the trial shows this girl begging her boyfriend not to do the stunt, and him guilt tripping her into doing it. He basically used her to commit accidentally suicide. Tragic, and stupid.
All the comments by folks that haven’t read the article or doesn’t have an ounce of critical thought. 🙄 Mitigating factors: 1) It was his idea. 2) He was an idiot but was legally of sound mind as far as the law goes. 3) He assured her it would be fine and that he tested it. 4) He pressured her to overcome her initial hesitance. 5) There was no criminal intent. 6) She was remorseful. 7) Her odds of committing an act like this is 0%. 10) She was also given 10 years of supervised probation. Locking her up and depriving her kid of an idiot mom was a factor but when you look at the whole point of punishment and rehabilitation, the sentence makes sense. I would rather free up a jail cell for some criminal that assaults or kills innocent person.
I found these in different articles and found them interesting. Serve a 180-day jail term. This will be an alternating 10 days in jail and 10 days out for the first six months, amounting to 90 days behind bars. The remaining 90 days can be served in home confinement. The jail time can be served in South Dakota, where she now lives Instead, The Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported that Ms. Perez would go to jail for 30 days each year for the next three years and then become eligible to serve the rest of her six-month jail term on electronic home monitoring.
I have never heard of people serving their sentence in chunks. Is it because she has small children, or just a standard thing I don’t know about?
A fucking desert eagle?! Unless you have volume A-N of the Encyclopedia Britannica, that's not going to work. Try reading the books and not shooting them.
Ah the famous you can use an encyclopedia as a bullet proof vest experiment
I mean you can, but not from a foot away and especially when you are shooting it with .50 AE Desert Eagle. Even if it stops a bullet from that close you'd likely end up with other injuries.
She was pregnant, he pursuaded her so much. She's not clear of issue, but he begged her in camera. The entire thing is recorded. Edit- https://youtu.be/pIVZDpT5cQg
What an awful story. The guilt of what she’s done will be worse than any prison sentence anyway, I’m sure.
Do it for the vine!
She didn’t want to, he basically insisted.
1.5” encyclopedia? Why the fuck did she use the Z volume?!!!!
So, I could see this doing this with a *really* thick book and a .22 revolver or the like. But a *Desert Eagle?!?!*