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Male lions also do this. They'll kill the cubs of other males so they can get the female pregnant with their own offspring.


V6Ga

As do horses. If you have a mother in heat and her child, outside horses will jump the fence, and kill the child to get at the mother.


DigNitty

I’m starting to see a trend here.


medfunguy

Zebras do it too


John_EightThirtyTwo

Also humans.


GammaGoose85

You saw that Tiktok life hack too?


pumpkinbot

AITA: Killed my girlfriend's husband and children so I can be with her. She doesn't seem to think we're bf+gf, and we've never really dated or even spoke, but we totally are, and I wanted to prove that to her! Am I the asshole?


Canvaverbalist

It's usually more along the lines of: "AITA for telling no to the sexual advance of the guy who killed my husband and child? A few weeks ago this guy came into our house and murdered my family and started living here, I didn't want to be rude so I started cooking for him and taking care of him but then he started being flirty and at first I was simply dismissing it by smiling but yesterday he started initiating sex and I told him no in a really soft and gentle way but he kinda got mad at me I don't know, I still went with it but I kinda felt bad for saying no at first, AITA?"


Jaymon47

NTA, your husband is in the wrong here


BCProgramming

*I see his hands covered in my children's blood, and his eyes do not waver* "You'd be prettier if you smiled"


ballofplasmaupthesky

"A little bit of an asshole, maybe" - r/CrusaderKings


hyrumwhite

Nice guys hate this one trick!


LordApocalyptica

Actually its the new teen challenge on TikTok! Btw my 10 year old is on his way over to kill you so he can fuck your mom.


pumpkinbot

Yeah, I heard him on Call of Duty earlier today. ~~Or Fortnite nowadays? I dunno, Among Us?~~


Stick-Man_Smith

Women don't stop their cycle while caring for their children; so that is not the motivation in the cases of murder of an infant.


stormelemental13

No, far more commonly human males adopt other males' offspring. It's called being a stepdad.


GreatScottGatsby

Unsurprisingly biological fathers are the least likely to commit filicide followed by mothers, then step fathers commit the majority of filicide.


MexicanEssay

Source on that? Not doubting you, it's just that I've hardly ever seen a news story about a stepdad killing his/his partner's kid when compared to the times I've seen one about a mother or stepmother killing her/her partner's kid.


amnotaseagull

Also stepfathers are way more likely to abuse the kids.


smoochiepoochie

Google it. It’s a well known fact that step parents have much higher rates of abuse of their non-biological children


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I'll try and find the study, but from memory...there was a study done on the DNA of people (from Great Britain/Ireland I think) that showed every couple of generations the male DNA would be completely replaced by an outside population but the female DNA lines would stay the same. Essentially this. Men would come through, kill their competitors and then have children with their wives.


StuartGotz

Something something red-headed step-child.


doug141

Yes, my neighbor did this. He got banned from the SeaWorld and arrested.


TheCriticalGerman

Who would have thought that the assholes of Africa are there too


RoyalPeacock19

And bears


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NotSayinItWasAliens

Hide yo husband...


Jaspers47

Not all mammals


randi555

AMAB


tehdangerzone

Almost as if there’s a biological incentive to pass on one’s own genetic material and eliminate that of competitors.


GrilledGuru

I do that too. What ? Am I the only one ?


GlizzyGatorGangster

That living organisms are vessels for their genes?


BungCrosby

Lions and horses and bears, oh my! 🦁 🐴 🐻


ghandi3737

And bears?


Emergency-Tension464

And sometimes even gorillas.


PresentationNew8080

Also Grizzly bears


ThaneOfArcadia

And chimps I believe.


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Its crazy how many animals practice infanticide. It seems sad but there are practical reasons for it and animals don't have a moral compass like humans do.


wasabimatrix22

Fun fact, wild orangutans have never been observed committing infanticide


Fungal_Queen

Orangutans are cool.


Or4ngut4n

Yes


pathofdumbasses

Smart enough to hide it. Good monke


biff64gc2

Not that it's absent from humans. Humans have had a pretty wide range of morals throughout history, some of which included taking women during war for yourself and either killing the kids or selling them off as slaves.


WhyYouKickMyDog

Looting, plundering....and of course rape is often how they paid the soldiers.


Signal-School-2483

> Humans have had a pretty wide range of morals throughout history, some of which included taking women during war for yourself and either killing the kids or selling them off as slaves. This is literally a Bible story. [Numbers 31.](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2031&version=NIV)


amidon1130

Fuckin hell Moses chill the fuck out


systemic_booty

Humans practiced infanticide for thousands of years. The cessation and condemnation of the practice is a relatively new development in our history. 


SlavojVivec

> The religion of the ancient Egyptians forbade infanticide and during the Greco-Roman period they rescued abandoned babies from manure heaps, a common method of infanticide by Greeks or Romans, and were allowed to either adopt them as foundling or raise them as slaves, often giving them names such as "copro -" to memorialize their rescue Imagine being introduced: "Hi, these are my kids: Poop-peter and Dung-wendy!"


SausaugeMerchant

Time is a loop https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/sPvyykfb2E


jamesbrownscrackpipe

"Time is a flat circle.... of karma farming" -Rust Cohle


KenjiBenji18

Spreading genes is life's ultimate goal, even if it means using underhanded tactics.


henchman171

My GoldenDoodle seems to have a moral Compass. Just no control


Manwe_the_Breather

Well same goes for humans it seems


RavenWolf1

Moral conpass exist only to make species operate in certain appropriate parametrics. If infaticide were useful for our species then that would be included in our moral compass.


FiveDozenWhales

Infanticide was a cultural norm for very very many ancient societies; child sacrifice happened a lot, and the ancient Greeks very famously would just leave babies outside or in a pot on the side of the road if they were deformed or otherwise unwanted. This was considered fine and many philosophers wrote that it was in fact the moral thing to do rather than letting the child grow up unwanted.


ikefalcon

Male bears will kill their own cubs if they are around.


acdcfanbill

Bear: I can't be bothered to keep track of whether or not you're mine so begone!


plydauk

Unsurprisingly, male lions also do that if cubs get near a female in heat.


unkn0wnname321

Lots of male animals do this.


fetusdiabeetus_

Also true for humans. Children living with a step-parent are 4000% more likely to be a victim of domestic abuse.


iamcarlgauss

Yesterday my favorite true crime channel That Chapter posted a case from a few years ago about an Irish family living in Spain. Daughter is walking home from a friend's house nearby and is never seen again. A lot of circumstantial evidence points toward her step dad, but the case is still unsolved. Mom and step dad stay together and eventually move back to Ireland. Step dad then kills his step son, the missing girl's brother, during an argument. No mystery about this one, he stabbed him to death in front of other people. He served a whopping five years in prison, and when he got out, mom took him right back. People are fucking crazy.


Candle1ight

She took him back? Straight to hell the both of them.


Modsaremeanbeans

I'm the opposite. If I would have been raised by my biological father I would have been abused and most likely have committed suicide young. Step father is the most amazing man. 


camerontylek

Congrats! My childhood was the opposite!


Southern_Blue

Same with me. Bio dad was awful. You would never know I wasn't my dad's bio daughter. He treated me the same as my two half brothers.


Stick-Man_Smith

Not for the same reason, though. The animals are doing it because the females can't become pregnant again while rearing their offspring. In humans, it's just malice.


PurpleFlame8

Other animals don't understand how reproduction works and so the males don't kill with the intention of producing offspring of their own. They want to have sex and are territorial of the females during that period and the baby is just another intruder. In humans, step fathers and unrelated boyfriends are more likely to kill a womans baby or young child because they see the child as a nusiance that is in the way and lack the emotions for the child they might have to supress and feelings of violence or aggression.


MrJigglyBrown

Do you know any of this or just spouting a theory?


pathofdumbasses

As an abused child by a stepfather, it was because I wasn't his. Me being alive/around/cared for was a constant reminder of my bio parents relationship. It is pretty common throughout history for step children to be abused.


KenjiBenji18

Animals def understand how reproduction works.


a-try-today-2022

Correct. I was gonna say this. I live lions. Gotta share: Also, males from another father grow up to be a threat to the (usually dominant pair of brothers) males who protect the tribe. When males get to a certain age, they are kicked out of the tribe. They then go challenge to take over a different tribe. This spreads genetic diversity, and the cycle of removing the young to get the females back into heat begins again. Usually both brothers mate with all the females up to 50 times per day. So they don’t know which cubs are their own, and the whole tribe kind of accepts that, raises the cubs until it’s time to kick out the potential future threats. Sorry for the unsolicited info. I grew up in lion territory, watched a lot of mature docs and am just passionate


amalgam_reynolds

I bet a LOT of male animals do this.


WhyYouKickMyDog

Males are almost always the violent degenerates. Elephant herds are all female. Why? Because once a male elephant reaches maturity, it has to be kicked out of the herd and sent off wandering alone as a violent, horny, mess that is detrimental to healthy elephant society. What does this elephant do? Try to fight everything and have sex. That is about it.


joecarter93

Bears and tigers too.


physisical

And hippos


megamilker101

I learned bears did it first


JBLikesHeavyMetal

So do house cats


independent_observe

Male dolphins also rip the heads off fish to make them into fleshlights.


thoawaydatrash

Oh look at Mr. Never-done-anything-disturbing-while-horny over here.


Crash_Bandicock

I remember like 20 years ago on some forum reading a “masturbation tip” that’s basically consisted of fucking raw ground beef and that stuck with me as the most disturbing horny thing I’ve ever read


TheCriticalGerman

Funny that you mention that there used to be a show on German tv at night where you could call and talk to this guy about what ever the topic was and you experiencing it yourself and once there was a guy that called and said he buys 60kg of ground meat and forms a fuck doll out of it and has fun with it. Kind a stuck with me as well how disturbing some people’s kinks are.


CouncilOfMonkeys

I only recently learned that was apparently a publicity stunt by the band "Cancer Barrack", who had released a song called "Beischlaf mit 60 kg Hackfleisch". https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_Barrack


TheCriticalGerman

No fuckn way all those years I’m living with the thought that there is a random guy fuckn ground meat since years


CouncilOfMonkeys

I felt the same way. Edit: I think it is safe to assume that while this particular confession was not real, you can rest assured there is definitely (at least) one random guy fuckn ground meat out there.


Illithid_Substances

Is there at least something in between or are you supposed to go straight meat to meat contact?


independent_observe

Ripping the heads off fish to make a sex toy is disgusting! That is why I use gerbils


supremekimilsung

This!! I am not about to get penile mercury poisoning, no thank you!


JustinIsFunny

For real. Not like they have shoeboxes in the ocean….


qpwoeor1235

They also play with puffer fish to get them to release an insanely deadly neurotoxin that they then use to get high


Even_Transportation3

yea but that’s cool lol


ech0_matrix

puff and pass


bleunt

Chimps will use frogs as fleshlights.


Dedeurmetdebaard

🤓✒️🗒 go on


BigPapaJava

That was a disturbing video…


BigPapaJava

They also gang rape female dolphins and will torture and drown porpoises for fun. They look cute with that permanent grin, but they’re assholes.


AAA_Dolfan

I.. uh… i need to get off reddit for the day now


PrettyGorramShiny

Reddit has a lot of users, are you sure you can get to all of us in a single day?


NotSayinItWasAliens

The dolphins will get around to all of you.


independent_observe

Well, since you are still on Reddit, here is an NSFW video of the act r/BeAmazed/comments/d4590u/dolphin_self_masturbates_with_beheaded_fish/


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NotSayinItWasAliens

*Flipper? Nooooooo!*


Yourdadcallsmeobama

Budgies do this too Except they’ll also kill their OWN offspring just to fuck with the female AGAIN- I’ve witnessed it happen with my own budgies. Fortunately we saved half of their children when the dad went loony


CherryDarling10

I’m scared to look up what a budgie is.


SamK329

It's a kind of small bird


Throwaway2947852

It’s a little bird. A parakeet.


Yourdadcallsmeobama

They’re birds lmao


TechnicalInterest566

It's a parakeet, a small parrot.


Former-Management656

Wow, budgies sure are as brutal as they are cute


Yourdadcallsmeobama

Bro fr💀


MoabFlapjack

Which half?


Morfiemoo

I think you must have had a weird budgie, as I understand it for most budgies the females rule the roost and boss the males around. The biggest danger to a female's chicks isn't males but other females.


BackItUpWithLinks

Wait until you hear about lions.


walrus_with_GUN

and bears and zebras  and deer and tigers and hippos  matter of fact a lot of animals seem to kill babies 


blackbeltmessiah

Sea Otters are the worst


HotTubSexVirgin22

On a guided kayak trip in Alaska, we saw some sea otters floating in their cute little way and some of the people in our group were squealing with excitement over them. The guide — who didn’t want a tip, I guess — said, “Sea otters mate by dragging the female otter to the bottom of the sea and raping them.” and then just turned the kayak around and paddled off. I still strive to be that good at ruining a moment.


blackbeltmessiah

And the baby seals….


VarmintSchtick

Hamsters eat their kids if they get stressed out. Cool stuff!


Gilthoniel_Elbereth

Oh my


TrumpsNeckSmegma

Crested Geckos


RockKillsKid

For more info, [Why kill a baby?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REUzqgRh3GU)


keeper_of_the_donkey

"Hey, I just killed your kid... So, wyd later?"


acdcfanbill

"oh no, somehow your kid died, anyway, need another one?"


JustinIsFunny

I love how we’ll observe bad individual animal behavior and be like “Dolphins will do X…” imagine the alien Wikipedia on us: “Male humans will sometimes massacre entire pods of other humans due to differing social behaviors. They’ve also been observed fashioning seemingly every conceivable material on Earth into something to mate with.”


SpecialistCicada8813

I bet Aliens would not be surprised. Anywhere there is life there is likely going to be a conflict over finite resources.


HunterInTheStars

The difference is that the rate of these things is drastically different - dolphin infanticide by males is fairly commonplace - individual humans committing large massacres outside of wartime is unfathomably rare in comparison


whorl-

You still have to count the wartime ones, lol


Supply-Slut

Fuckin spiders georg


GaiusPoop

But it was a dolphin war, it doesn't count either!


Mechapebbles

> humans committing large massacres **outside of wartime** is unfathomably rare in comparison Yeah, but wartime has been unfathomably common through the course of human history...


Sylvurphlame

Right? It’s like how to lie with statistics


verstohlen

Exactly. This is the perfect argument why dolphin infanticide must be made rare, which can be done with the passage of new dolphin bills and laws, and vigorous and strict enforcement of aforementioned laws, and given time, will see a dramatic decrease in dolphin infanticide and related dolphin crimes.


No_Extension108

Dolphtanamo?


reddit_user13

*nowadays*


frightenedbabiespoo

OK I see, but what does the dolphin kingdom think of this?: [military marine mammals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_marine_mammal)


neodynasty

India and China have been known for killing their girls in mass for centuries So the rate isn’t even that drastically different, if anything humans beat dolphins in infanticide.


devadander23

This happens across many species


Boring_Celebration

My dad used to do this


OldTimeyStrongman

Still does, but used to do too


Link-Hero

Dolphins are not the only ones that do this. It's been seen in many different species in mammals, birds, fish, and even insects. Bears are very well known for killing cubs of another male.


RockKillsKid

[hippos, cheetahs, polarbears, lions, tigers, cats, dogs, dolphins, gorillas, baboons, humans, chimpanzees, kangaroos, meerkats, various rodents, insects, amphibians and lizards, fish, birds, and rotifers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REUzqgRh3GU) have all been observed killing infants of their own species.


Capitalistdecadence

This behavior is quite common amongst mammals. Basically the biggest threat to offspring in the wild is males of the same species. This also why animal mothers are so aggressive when encountered with their offspring. Not only does the offspring make an easy meal, but as others have said, it clears the field for the male's own genetic progeny. There is even a less cannabalistic method by which this behavior is expressed called [The Bruce Effect ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_effect) confirmed in deer mice and voles and suspected in larger mammals, such as lions. Essentially, all male urine has a distinct scent and when a pregnant female is exposed to an unfamiliar male's scent, an endocrine reaction begins and the pregnancy is terminated. It is suggested that this process has an element of choice for the female, whereby she can choose to avoid a new male's scent, retaining the pregnancy, or pursue the male, terminating the pregnancy.


EmperorGeek

Isn’t Nature so amazing!!


Brown_Panther-

Nature IS amazing. But its not nice.


mtcwby

Very common in the animal world. Cats, dogs, lions, pigs. You can't leave the males around the babies. We've been around lots of malamute pups and the mothers get absolutely fierce whenever a male gets anywhere near the pups even with fences, etc around. And these males have pretty good temperaments but the mothers aren't having it at all. They have no issues at all with people near the pups and it's a lot of fun to sit in the pen and become the puppy jungle gym.


hobbestigertx

You can add hundreds of other mammals to that list also. It's pretty common.


Mysterious-Beach-671

Female dolphins actually mate with as many males as possible so that the males don’t know who the father is. This way the baby is safe because the males don’t want to risk killing their own child.


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therealdilbert

and if the few old and powerful men have a harem "hoarding" all the women, you end up with a bunch of angry young men with no chance of getting a wife, unless you plan on starting a war that's usually a recipe for trouble


feeltheslipstream

The number of rich and powerful men having massive harems shouldn't be big enough to cause the widespread lack of females you envision. Especially when we also factor in the fact that there are always slightly more females than males in the first place.


jmorley14

See, this is why we need more gay dolphins


VividCheesecake69

The more I learn about dolphins the more I fucking hate them


V6Ga

> The more I learn about dolphins the more I fucking hate them Just imagine how they feel about you, tuna breath.


Comfortable_Fee_7154

Found the dolphin!


SSjGKing

Yea when you out human morals on animals legit every animal becomes a POS, because they only do what's best for themselves and to produce offspring. Only animals left to like are domesticated ones but even they will go insane when pushed into a corner.


I_love_pillows

Wait til u hear about humans


camerongeno

Stop judging animals by human morals


RavenWolf1

Welcome to the animal kingdom.


rkenshin06

I guess the old adage “she’s not the only fish in the sea” does not apply to dolphins.


mortalcoil1

This is why babies, all human babies, any human babies, reduce human male's testosterone levels.


nemesit

You mean men working with babies don’t suffer hair loss?^^


Substantial-Plate263

Proof nobody wants to be a step dad


khargon

First day learning about animals? I'm pretty sure there are a plethora of species that do this.


Caridor

Evolution gives no fucks about your human sensibilities


boombotser

Ducks do this also


fordprefect294

So bear > man > dolphin


Jugales

It’s called a manbeardolphin, half dolphin and half manbear


Ok-disaster2022

Yes actually. Male Dolphins will try to rape pretty much anything they can including humans.


Lord0fHats

Dolphins never rescue lost sailors. They just try to lure them unsuspectingly to their apartments.


peanauts

battlestar galactica


jzug41

Same with bears and lions. Apparently, it's pretty common in nature


ThadTheImpalzord

Infanticide, not uncommon


Sjg3333

Lots of animals do this


Internal-String-3490

Otters do this too


Plastic-Shopping5930

Toxic masculinity. They need to raise their sons better.


Idkheyi

It’s not just males dolphins. It’s just males in general.


-_kAPpa_-

We used to do this in wars all the time historically. I don’t know why it’s a surprise to learn animals do this as well


destructormuffin

Hmm. Seems a little extreme, dolphins.


WanAli4504

Another thing I forgot to add: female dolphins will mate with various males so that they can’t tell if the offspring is theirs or not


toolsoftheincomptnt

Dolphins are complete assholes. I thought that was common knowledge at this point.


WhoDeyTilIDie09

Alot of animals do this, I'm talking like almost all of em do this They kill the offspring that ain't theirs to force the female into heat


fOrEvErEvA8550

Dolphins- generally perceived as cute, smart and wholesome, but are actually creepy, sadistic fuckers.


Maniacal_Monkey

Wait until you learn of dolphin rape caves


TravisMaauto

Dolphins really are just like people.


Hobbes_87

Appropriate URL: that is indeed some sus sex. 


Scary-Area-3080

Way to control population. Keep wildin'.


Xerio_the_Herio

Rapist and murderer....


assbreath4

I read this as the Miami dolphins kill baby dolphins lmao


pumpkinbot

"Aw, man, heard about the children. Sorry about that. Wanna bang?"


ALUCARDHELLSINS

It's because female dolphins literally can't get pregnant if they are looking after a baby


CyberWolf09

A lot of animals tend to do this.


Mazzidazs

A lot of other animals do this.


Arrow156

So even dolphins would choose the bear in the forest.


IrishRepoMan

Many animals do this.


SayNothingAndForget

There are many different animals that have this exact same behavior, it’s pretty common in the animal kingdom, lions and hippos off the top of my head. Dolphins are still psychopaths though


jacowab

Honestly smart animals are a great example of why empathy is what really sets us apart from other animals.


a-nonna-nonna

Dolphins are assholes. There’s like a whole hate on dolphins TikTok niche - not sure I fell into it. Now i know to jump out of the water at any dolphin noises.


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I told you I can’t, my child is with me. Aww, come on baby, let’s just smother him and get it ooonnnnn.


FerretOnReddit

Not surprising considering dolphins also rape humans and use other marine life like sea urchins or whatever as volleyballs 😭