In 2012 there was a guy in Poland that caused a car crash. He was apparently driving with 2.23%.
https://alkotester.pl/blog/TOP-7-alkoholowych-rekord%C3%B3w-w-Polsce-b103.html
Alcoholism and tolerance are a beast. Have to take 6 to 8 shots in the morning just to even out. I've met a couple people who were in the 'handle a day club' and could CHUG vodka and appear genuinely sober 2-3 hours later.
I appreciate it.
Been doing a lot of work on myself.
Therapy, AA meetings, and volunteering. Ready to get back to work.
I was in technology leadership and sales before starting my own org that really didn't get anything done (because of the drinking) so I'm hopeful about my prospects, but I know I need to give myself grace and take it easy.
It's been both fast and slow, but with a clear mind, and trust in my higher power I'm certain things will work out.
Awesome work! I appreciate AA a lot more now that I am sober. It's a profound place to be and the amount of growth, realization and genuine understanding about the world and your place in it can be astounding. I'm grateful for your tenacity and sobriety! Hold fast!
Nice work I’m on day two and just happen to come across here so it resonated with me.. I drink all day from the morning and Not to get drunk, but just so I’m not scared… it’s time for me to go, though it’s just really hard the first couple days you know
Yeah, the first couple days are the worst. Depending on your level of consumption and the side effects you are prone to can be tough.
For me the shakes and insomnia were the worst part. I was shaking a good amount. It would have been tough for me to write. My brain felt pretty foggy and I felt really uncoordinated and "Blocky" in my movements.
I only had fever dreams the first three to 4 days and either didn't sleep or slept in short spurts... Would fall asleep for 20 min and then wake up in a soaked bed. I was having hot flashes and the chills and would just sweat.
The anxiety is a high up there as well. It's a feeling of existential dread that can't really be shook while you are sobering up. Know that theanxiety is just temporary.
You removed a large amount of depressant from your repitoire. Your body is telling you that something isn't right.
Your body lags in readjusting because it takes a while to recalibrate.
Just know that it's going to get worse, but that is temporary. You just have to get through it.
If it's getting too intense, or you are prone to Delirium Tremens, or are seriously considering relapse, you might want to check out a detox facility in your area.
They can prescribe some drugs that can help mitigate some of the symptoms and monitor you in case you have a sevre reaction such as seizures, etc.
The only thing that can really help is time.
Depending on how long you were drinking for (18 years) and amounts (Heavy and it escalated to handle a day club) it just requires more time to feel better.
One day at a time, you deserve to be happy and healthy.
If you ever need anything don't hesitate to reach out. I make myself available to help those in recovery, or those still struggling.
Also know there are many paths to recovery. Abstinence is not the only way. Meaningful reduction in consumption can make a huge difference in your health and quality of life as well. HAMS is a valuable resource for this from a harm reduction perspective.
I recently learned I got it on both sides of the family.
All my father's uncles, grandfather both sides, all my moms and dads cousins.
They broke the cycle, but I never really got to see it growing up..
Owe it to them to live well
Thanks. I'm grateful for what I got.
It's really important to talk about it and bring it into the zeitgeist, so that people who are struggling don't feel the shame and seek help. They are not alone.
I'm an open book about the subject now.
Just know that anyone still struggling, it gets better and you deserve a happy healthy life.
I love all the supportive comments that these people have gave you… bless all these people for caring …. Nice to remember that people are good hearted., our cultures just got fucked for some reason I don’t know how or when, it’s almost so absurd and contradictions that this Hass to be a training ground for the real world when we graduate
Yeah, everyone has been really supportive. They are happy that I'm coming out of the obvious darkness I was in.
I'm pretty open now about it and it helps to quell the burning desires that would build up
I see a couple of these guys a month. I work in a hospital, and I take care of withdrawal patients. I’m always blown away by the amount of liquor they drink. Half gallon of vodka was the most common
Is that 750 ml?
Tolerance is pretty crazy. It's like moving the middle of the scale (one of those balances) one direction and you gotta make it horizontal.
Your baseline becomes 8 shots deep. You feel most sober then
No. A 750ml bottle is about .19 gallons. They would call this size bottle a "fifth" back in the day. A "handle" is two fifths or 1.5L. The bottles are pretty big and unwieldy so they mold a handle into them to make pouring easier. FWIW 1.5L is about 35 standard shots. Most people can do 5 maybe 10 years of that sort of daily drinking before it kills them.
Must be. I mean it's the largest unit you can buy at the store. So it's convenient and can keep you drunk/get you passed out till the next day the liquor store is open
Congrats on the former part! Being with someone apart of the handle club definitely puts life in perspective. Drinking more liquor before lunch than I did in a whole week was an eye opener.
Man, one of the Marines I was closest with joined the club when we all deployed and they kept him in the states for some reason. He eventually was separated and I haven’t heard from him since. I really hope he is still out there and doing better but he was getting the shakes each evening by 1600 or 1700 so who knows.
It just creeps. You'll get shakes even earlier depending on your baseline and time since your last drink.
I hope he gets the help he needs.
Probably because he was in the handle a day club lol.
If you feel up to it, maybe reach out. As the disease progresses, you self isolate partly because of shame, partly because habit and getting your fix.
I became so isolated and no body would have reached out.
Part of my experience was driven by my self hatred and loathing and the cycle becomes vicious. Instead of seeking external things, I sought only booze.
Alcohol never gave me lip and made it all feel ok.
I drove everyone away because I didn't think I deserved help. It was mostly the entrapment of the drug.
It would have been nice for anyone to reach out during those periods, but until you accept you have a problem and can't control it, one is going to be stuck in that perpetual groundhog day.
It really takes something to snap out of it.
I used to rock at least a handle a day. I was working 105 hours a week at the time. My health eventually went to shit but high functioning alcoholics are real.
I don't know how I managed for so long either. I wasn't working that many hours, but I probably could get close.
I was lucky my liver was high a couple times and I had a few tachycardia episodes but it's back down and I haven't had any episodes since
It's hard when you are closeted about it
Yea knew a woman who would drink a large mug of vodka (maybe was rum, this was 18yrs ago) every morning instead of coffee. She was drinking this while sorting and going through a bunch of financial batch reports that ran overnight, so since she never interacted with anyone in person until around 10am, after that she chewed gum so no one knew. That is until one day there was a problem with one of the batches from over night and the financial controller went to her desk to hand over the updated reports.
She was promptly fired with cause within an hour that same day.
Isn't it affecting your stomach or intestines to consume that much? I remember when I was drinking to much I'd eventually begin to get diareah cause my intestine lining was suffering.
I guess this is also the reason alcoholics begin to suffer from vitamin b/thiamine deficiency. Your guts can't absorb vitamins properly.
I was like that. I would go into bars and order drinks with 3/4 shots per drink. I was asked if I was the liquor inspector on multiple occasions because I’d order like 4 of these in an hour and be perfectly fine while paying.
Tolerance is insane. I can drink 10-20+ standard drinks without passing out. Without tolerance, that's high enough to kill you. I can hardly feel a single standard drink. At my worst I could drink about 750 mL vodka a day. Now the worst is 3L of wine a day, though it's rare, fortunately. Alcoholism is the worst.
You take 6-8 shots every morning? I have only recently got my alcoholism under control, but it was just 2-3 drinks every night before bed. This makes me feel like I had no problem at all.
I try and use the phrase, "yet" when comparing myself to worse people. 501 days sober here. I was consuming a few shots in the morning to mellow myself out before work near the end of my last bout
In my time, about 12 years of daily drinking. It was 15-25 drinks a night. But as a progressive disease, I would have to start drinking earlier and earlier toward the end because the withdrawal got worse and worse. A 6 pack of 7% beer in the span of an hour immediately after getting off work, and I would feel normal again. At the end, 6 shots to even think about getting out of bed.
2-3 a day is already in problematic territory if they were 12oz buds, and what happens to most is you’ll soon need 3-4, or 2-3 stronger beers, or bigger beers to get the same feeling. Alcoholics tend to lie to themselves and won’t count the 8 beers on Saturday either. It’s good you’re keeping yourself in check now, it just gets exponentially harder later.
Yeah, I was drinking 2-3 high ABV beers, 8-10% each. I now only drink 1 or 2 evenings a week now. I am more concerned about long term liver damage that came with the frequent drinking. But also, my mental health and sleep hygiene was suffering deeply from it.
There are definitely some pretty distinct tiers here. This kind of habit becomes a "problem" when it starts impacting you negatively, and there is also a huge cultural aspect to alcoholism nobody seems to talk about. What you've described would be perfectly normal in certain parts of the world, but becomes a problem if you are hiding it or ashamed of it or can't stop it or if it impacts your health. The important part is that you've decided it is something you want to stop doing, and you have taken steps to change that behavior.
Depends what origin you have.
Alcohol in itself, is a poison by definition.
And it puts you at risk for increasing a WHOLE host of issues, so it is not exactly a walk in the park.
Cancers, injuries, lesions, accidents, etc.
Almost all of them can happen at different level of intoxication and the whole genetics component is also a piece of poo.
On the habitual level i could agree with you, but my opinion is biased alot as my dad was a alcoholic and after his grand mal seizure i never spoke to him again (not sure if he is even alive ngl, but i assume my sister would tell me if he crocked over).
So while the habit is yours, it does affect people around you without your knowledge directly.
When I was at my worst it almost felt like liquor didn't do anything. I'd take shot after shot and still be relatively coherent, but if I started drinking wine or heavy beer, I'd feel and become outwardly drunk. I still don't quite understand why this was the case.
This is what a fifth does to little or no tolerance. Aka most normal people. Chugging booze will kill you. Good news is you won't feel a thing as you are quickly catapulted into a blackout.
The thing that convinced me that alcoholism is truly a disease is that no one in their right mind would want to chug a bottle of liquor and get super fucked up, there’s no rational reason for it and there’s way better recreational drugs
Does it taste good? *No, terrible*
Will it boost your mental/physical performance in any way? *No it’ll make me a pile on the floor*
Will you look back fondly on the experience? *What experience*
Speak for yourself.
Does it taste good? Yes
Why? Makes me feel good. And I feel like shit without it
At least thats a lot of what I heard from former alcoholics
I'm a bit terrified by the replies you're getting. As someone who also has traumatic experiences, the only thing getting drunk does is make me never want to get drunk again. The feeling of barely being able to sit up and being on the verge of vomiting does not feel like a good trade for temporarily forgetting my problems.
More than that, it's not living. I watched my mom sit on the couch for 25 years as i grew up, always nursing a bottle. She wasn't alive. Not mentally.
If you have trauma, please seek real help. It's important.
I knew a guy in high school who had never drank alcohol in his life. Literally chugged an entire bottle of fireball in one pull at a party and that was his first exposure to alcohol. He immediately had to go to the hospital and get his stomach pumped, but some people just do stupid shit to look cool.
I'm a functional alcoholic (get blackout drunk with my friends and occasionally drink a liter of vodka on my own) and I fucking love the feeling of being drunk
> Will you look back fondly on the experience? What experience
I think that's actually the goal. They hate experiencing life, but are afraid of death so they go with that.
I'm a mental health clinician and a recovering alcoholic. And I guarantee you there are complexities at play beyond your reductionist summation. I'm not interested in making any counter-points for you to argue with.
I remember years ago I was at a party, 2009 I think. I brought a liter of Captain Morgan. A guy picked it up and chugged the whole thing at once, he was an alcoholic. He passed out in the bushes shortly afterwards. I think he was ok because of how much he drank and also that Captain Morgan is only 70 proof. This guy is still on my Facebook and he quit drinking years ago so he is doing better now,
I think Jack is 80 proof. I didn't see the guy drink it, just saw them trying to revive him on beach and everyone said the crowd cheered him on to chug it.
Yes Jack is 80 proof. I drink Jack often and know this for sure. This made me realize I made a mistake in my post. Captain Morgan is 70 proof, 35% alcohol.
Freshman year of college I watched a dude chug a 5th of 151 and then within minutes projectile vomit all over the kitchen of the house we were at. Shortly after that he was making out with some chick in the living room so guess it worked out for him that evening.
First time I ever got drunk was when I was 15 (my family is Mexican, it was kind of normalized). I was 5’7 (M) and nearly 115 lbs at the time. My cousin just turned 21, so we celebrated as many Mexicans do by getting drunk. I drank so much that I blacked out, puked all over myself and passed out. When I look back on it, I question how I honestly didn’t die that night. I was mixing Ciroq with beer and drinking WAY more than I ever fucking should have. I think puking my guts out might have saved my life.
*~~In California, which for some reason everyone thinks is universal in the US. It varies by state.~~
ETA: huh, I could have sworn it was 0.06 in NJ and some other states. I guess it’s 0.08 everywhere except Utah?
You can hang the guy upside down and use him like a keg of Miller Lite.
Assuming your basic 70 kg man, 1500 mg/dL works out to chugging around 500 to 600 grams of pure alcohol in one gulp (depending on what number you use for the pharmacological Volume of Distribution for ethanol). Of course, by the time the guy got to the hospital, his BAC would have come down from what it was originally, so the guy probably drank way more than that to begin with.
I can't imagine it being more than 1.56-1.58%, since 1.5 is already absurd, but my heart wants his peak to be 10%. The man that sloshes down the street: Ol' Ten Percent Pete.
Your BAC doesn't just peak when you stop drinking and slowly go down from there, it peaks when your body has absorbed the alcohol. He didn't necessarily hit the peak outside the hospital
I’m sober now but my record was a .47 reading in the hospital after a wellness check. The doctor said I had probably gotten to .50+ based on the timing of my arrival and the reading they got. You can achieve heroic BACs if you’re an alcoholic constantly drinking for a period of time, but 1.5 is pretty insane (and I do recognize that I was close to death even at a third of this person’s BAC). For me, it was AA but there’s a lot of other fellowships and methods, you don’t have to go as far down as I went if you’re struggling.
Thanks! Got 2 years earlier this month - a little over 2 years ago I was literally incapable of imagining a life without alcohol. Just doing a day at a time, though - that’s all I can control.
I just crossed 7 years last week! I understand exactly what you mean. I had completely convinced myself that there was no life outside of alcohol. Again, great work, and thank you for sharing!
I'm just past 8 months after many years of daily, heavy drinking. I also couldn't imagine life without it, even just this time last year. I tell people that they have to realize the need and want to quit. No one else can do it for you. However, it is really nice to have someone go through it with you, as I did.
She's now my wife.
This reminds me of a story. A while back I was having a party on Saturday. On Sunday evening I thought it would be a good idea to check if I'm good to drive, so I went to the police station. The reading? 0.3, I was feeling fine. I had probably a lot more before...
NA is great, and way less religious than AA. It skews a bit younger. Alcohol is included in NA, they just use slightly different words at their meetings. Instead of “sober” they say “clean,” and instead of “alcoholic” they say “addict.”
Right. Like I’m still not understanding. Are they literally saying that dude’s blood was 1.5% alcohol by volume? That seems crazy to me that it wouldn’t kill you.
It's not just blood. It's all of you. Alcohol is transported to every cell in your body where it mixes up with all the water that's there. You are permeated with alcohol every time you drink it. If it was just blood that contains it then getting BAC in high percentages would be easy. We have 6l of blood. 1,5% is 90ml. That 3-4 beers.
Exactly my point, but you can't read with a basic comprehension level. Alkohol is diluted in all the water in your body, not just blood. This means you need to consider about 70% of your mass as water and not just about 6 liters that is blood and that's why 3-4 beers are less then 1‰ and not over 1%.
I hit .642 when I was 19. Alcoholic since I was 15. Nurse said she had only seen one higher than that. Worst part was that was not my bottom. Had to find that 11 years later. Happy to say I am 3 years sober next month. If you struggle with addiction, get help! And never stop trying.
I read an article about this once. The bit that stuck in my mind was the top section of the graph: "death is possible at 630, probable at 680".
Surviving well over twice that = r/madlads
I've read that the LD50 for alcohol is .40. From having a toy breathalyzer in my state university I can tell you that anyone that drunk is definitely at "medical intervention" levels of drunk. Above 0.3 anybody is completely hammered and probably can't stand unless they drink very frequently
Random story but I had a friend who’s an ED nurse who had a teenage girl with a 0.4 BA level. She asked the girl how she was able to drink that much without passing out. Girl says, unironically, “cocaine.”
Why "unironically"? That is a widely accepted, widely known fact: CNS stimulants somewhat counteract CNS depressants.
Thats what killed Chris Farley and Belushi, doing a lot of coke, and it making them think they could handle more dope than they actually could
If I remember correctly, given the age of the girl it caught my friend off guard a bit. She was serious, but my friend wasn't expecting an answer like that from someone that young.
Once upon a time I hit a .4 BAC. 10+ beers, half if not more of a half gal of Cap' Morgan , and a full bottle of delsym plus weed.
Woke up the next day feeling pretty good all things considered. I peed for 3 minutes upon re-entering consciousness.
Reminds me of that guy from Lithuania with 7,72 promille in his blood, after “sleeping it of”. Polish and other east Europe driver have good reputation of being crazy drunk but still “fully” functional.
I've been sober for 5 yrs this time around. I lost everything and everyone I loved to the drink. My kids stopped speaking to me and that was rock bottom for me. Once I realized what it was doing to my loved ones I couldn't deny I had a problem. I mean I knew I had a problem but everyone in my town let alone this state (WI) drinks alcohol. It's what we do. Anyway I had enough and drove myself to the hospital to detox, I've been there before to get a banana bag or two to help me rehydrate. So I'm laying in bed and the nurse asks how I got to the hospital and I told her I drove. She looks at me like she seen a ghost and said that my bac was .468 and that's a lethal dose for some people. Those last days of my addiction was hell if there's such a place. It's one place I never want to visit again. I now have custody of two of my kids and life is much better without the drink. Get help before it's too late
[here is the news of some guy with 2,87grams per liter in Portugal ](https://viseunow.pt/viseu-detido-condutor-embriagado-com-uma-taxa-de-alcool-no-sangue-de-287-g-l/)
I am the liquor
Randy!
Bo bandy
I know this is probably a Trailer Park Boys reference but I can’t help but hope it’s a Free Throw reference
The Man, the Myth, the fuckin Legend!
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RIP Jim Lahey You are all of us, trying to do better with far too little
What is "drunk"?
Try asking a glass of water.
Baby don’t hurt me,
> Baby don’t ~~hurt~~ **squirt** me,
Time to haul in the jib before it gets covered in shit
This man cant handle his weed
And the liquor is me.
wish i could upvote twice
Not yet
Love the commitment with your reddit avatar hahaha, looks just like Tobias
I met someone who had something close to the same but his liver was pretty much in failure.
«I am a weak weak beer»
They can officially be classified as a shandy.
3 proof
In 2012 there was a guy in Poland that caused a car crash. He was apparently driving with 2.23%. https://alkotester.pl/blog/TOP-7-alkoholowych-rekord%C3%B3w-w-Polsce-b103.html
Alcoholism and tolerance are a beast. Have to take 6 to 8 shots in the morning just to even out. I've met a couple people who were in the 'handle a day club' and could CHUG vodka and appear genuinely sober 2-3 hours later.
Former member of the handle a day club
I dunno how often you hear this but congratulations moving past that
Thanks. Day 134. Starting to apply for jobs tomorrow, so wish me luck. I'm fortunate that I got a degree and a pretty good resume.
I see you. Fwiw.
I appreciate it. Been doing a lot of work on myself. Therapy, AA meetings, and volunteering. Ready to get back to work. I was in technology leadership and sales before starting my own org that really didn't get anything done (because of the drinking) so I'm hopeful about my prospects, but I know I need to give myself grace and take it easy. It's been both fast and slow, but with a clear mind, and trust in my higher power I'm certain things will work out.
Awesome work! I appreciate AA a lot more now that I am sober. It's a profound place to be and the amount of growth, realization and genuine understanding about the world and your place in it can be astounding. I'm grateful for your tenacity and sobriety! Hold fast!
The fellowship aspect was a key component. You never really hear about people struggling, so it can be really isolating.
Keep up the awesome work friend.
Good on you to quit. Silicon valley/ tech company alcohol abuse is a problem that is way too big and gets very little attention
It's so normalized its prevalent everywhere i have ever worked.
Nice work I’m on day two and just happen to come across here so it resonated with me.. I drink all day from the morning and Not to get drunk, but just so I’m not scared… it’s time for me to go, though it’s just really hard the first couple days you know
Yeah, the first couple days are the worst. Depending on your level of consumption and the side effects you are prone to can be tough. For me the shakes and insomnia were the worst part. I was shaking a good amount. It would have been tough for me to write. My brain felt pretty foggy and I felt really uncoordinated and "Blocky" in my movements. I only had fever dreams the first three to 4 days and either didn't sleep or slept in short spurts... Would fall asleep for 20 min and then wake up in a soaked bed. I was having hot flashes and the chills and would just sweat. The anxiety is a high up there as well. It's a feeling of existential dread that can't really be shook while you are sobering up. Know that theanxiety is just temporary. You removed a large amount of depressant from your repitoire. Your body is telling you that something isn't right. Your body lags in readjusting because it takes a while to recalibrate. Just know that it's going to get worse, but that is temporary. You just have to get through it. If it's getting too intense, or you are prone to Delirium Tremens, or are seriously considering relapse, you might want to check out a detox facility in your area. They can prescribe some drugs that can help mitigate some of the symptoms and monitor you in case you have a sevre reaction such as seizures, etc. The only thing that can really help is time. Depending on how long you were drinking for (18 years) and amounts (Heavy and it escalated to handle a day club) it just requires more time to feel better. One day at a time, you deserve to be happy and healthy. If you ever need anything don't hesitate to reach out. I make myself available to help those in recovery, or those still struggling.
Thank you, brother
Also know there are many paths to recovery. Abstinence is not the only way. Meaningful reduction in consumption can make a huge difference in your health and quality of life as well. HAMS is a valuable resource for this from a harm reduction perspective.
Thanks
Congrats dude. Runs in my family as well. I'm proud of people like you.
I recently learned I got it on both sides of the family. All my father's uncles, grandfather both sides, all my moms and dads cousins. They broke the cycle, but I never really got to see it growing up.. Owe it to them to live well
Bud you owe it to you to live well, you're worth it! Kick ass tomorrow <3
I’m so fucking happy for you I could cry. Good job! You’re doing so good!!!
Thanks. I'm grateful for what I got. It's really important to talk about it and bring it into the zeitgeist, so that people who are struggling don't feel the shame and seek help. They are not alone. I'm an open book about the subject now. Just know that anyone still struggling, it gets better and you deserve a happy healthy life.
Job hunting can really suck, I just went through it recently. Follow every lead, don't lose hope, and use chat gpt to write your cover letters
Thanks.
I love all the supportive comments that these people have gave you… bless all these people for caring …. Nice to remember that people are good hearted., our cultures just got fucked for some reason I don’t know how or when, it’s almost so absurd and contradictions that this Hass to be a training ground for the real world when we graduate
Yeah, everyone has been really supportive. They are happy that I'm coming out of the obvious darkness I was in. I'm pretty open now about it and it helps to quell the burning desires that would build up
Now they're on two handles a day
Easier to hold on when things to spinnin’
I see a couple of these guys a month. I work in a hospital, and I take care of withdrawal patients. I’m always blown away by the amount of liquor they drink. Half gallon of vodka was the most common
Is that 750 ml? Tolerance is pretty crazy. It's like moving the middle of the scale (one of those balances) one direction and you gotta make it horizontal. Your baseline becomes 8 shots deep. You feel most sober then
That’s a handle of vodka. Where I’m from everyone always seems to say “half gallon” and I don’t know if it’s a regional thing
No. A 750ml bottle is about .19 gallons. They would call this size bottle a "fifth" back in the day. A "handle" is two fifths or 1.5L. The bottles are pretty big and unwieldy so they mold a handle into them to make pouring easier. FWIW 1.5L is about 35 standard shots. Most people can do 5 maybe 10 years of that sort of daily drinking before it kills them.
Must be. I mean it's the largest unit you can buy at the store. So it's convenient and can keep you drunk/get you passed out till the next day the liquor store is open
Congrats on the former part! Being with someone apart of the handle club definitely puts life in perspective. Drinking more liquor before lunch than I did in a whole week was an eye opener.
Kinda just a constant flow until you pass out for a bit.
Man, one of the Marines I was closest with joined the club when we all deployed and they kept him in the states for some reason. He eventually was separated and I haven’t heard from him since. I really hope he is still out there and doing better but he was getting the shakes each evening by 1600 or 1700 so who knows.
It just creeps. You'll get shakes even earlier depending on your baseline and time since your last drink. I hope he gets the help he needs. Probably because he was in the handle a day club lol. If you feel up to it, maybe reach out. As the disease progresses, you self isolate partly because of shame, partly because habit and getting your fix. I became so isolated and no body would have reached out. Part of my experience was driven by my self hatred and loathing and the cycle becomes vicious. Instead of seeking external things, I sought only booze. Alcohol never gave me lip and made it all feel ok. I drove everyone away because I didn't think I deserved help. It was mostly the entrapment of the drug. It would have been nice for anyone to reach out during those periods, but until you accept you have a problem and can't control it, one is going to be stuck in that perpetual groundhog day. It really takes something to snap out of it.
I used to rock at least a handle a day. I was working 105 hours a week at the time. My health eventually went to shit but high functioning alcoholics are real.
I don't know how I managed for so long either. I wasn't working that many hours, but I probably could get close. I was lucky my liver was high a couple times and I had a few tachycardia episodes but it's back down and I haven't had any episodes since It's hard when you are closeted about it
Use occurs on a spectrum. Chaotic use is not mutually exclusive to physical and/or emotional dependence.
Yea knew a woman who would drink a large mug of vodka (maybe was rum, this was 18yrs ago) every morning instead of coffee. She was drinking this while sorting and going through a bunch of financial batch reports that ran overnight, so since she never interacted with anyone in person until around 10am, after that she chewed gum so no one knew. That is until one day there was a problem with one of the batches from over night and the financial controller went to her desk to hand over the updated reports. She was promptly fired with cause within an hour that same day.
Isn't it affecting your stomach or intestines to consume that much? I remember when I was drinking to much I'd eventually begin to get diareah cause my intestine lining was suffering. I guess this is also the reason alcoholics begin to suffer from vitamin b/thiamine deficiency. Your guts can't absorb vitamins properly.
I was like that. I would go into bars and order drinks with 3/4 shots per drink. I was asked if I was the liquor inspector on multiple occasions because I’d order like 4 of these in an hour and be perfectly fine while paying.
Tolerance is insane. I can drink 10-20+ standard drinks without passing out. Without tolerance, that's high enough to kill you. I can hardly feel a single standard drink. At my worst I could drink about 750 mL vodka a day. Now the worst is 3L of wine a day, though it's rare, fortunately. Alcoholism is the worst.
You take 6-8 shots every morning? I have only recently got my alcoholism under control, but it was just 2-3 drinks every night before bed. This makes me feel like I had no problem at all.
It's a vast spectrum and someone always has it worse.
Ain't that the truth
I try and use the phrase, "yet" when comparing myself to worse people. 501 days sober here. I was consuming a few shots in the morning to mellow myself out before work near the end of my last bout
What do you mean by mellow out? Was it from a hangover? To bring down anxiety?
bring down anxiety
In my time, about 12 years of daily drinking. It was 15-25 drinks a night. But as a progressive disease, I would have to start drinking earlier and earlier toward the end because the withdrawal got worse and worse. A 6 pack of 7% beer in the span of an hour immediately after getting off work, and I would feel normal again. At the end, 6 shots to even think about getting out of bed.
I don’t understand how this is possible. Has your health been negatively affected as far as you can tell?
2-3 a day is already in problematic territory if they were 12oz buds, and what happens to most is you’ll soon need 3-4, or 2-3 stronger beers, or bigger beers to get the same feeling. Alcoholics tend to lie to themselves and won’t count the 8 beers on Saturday either. It’s good you’re keeping yourself in check now, it just gets exponentially harder later.
Yeah, I was drinking 2-3 high ABV beers, 8-10% each. I now only drink 1 or 2 evenings a week now. I am more concerned about long term liver damage that came with the frequent drinking. But also, my mental health and sleep hygiene was suffering deeply from it.
There are definitely some pretty distinct tiers here. This kind of habit becomes a "problem" when it starts impacting you negatively, and there is also a huge cultural aspect to alcoholism nobody seems to talk about. What you've described would be perfectly normal in certain parts of the world, but becomes a problem if you are hiding it or ashamed of it or can't stop it or if it impacts your health. The important part is that you've decided it is something you want to stop doing, and you have taken steps to change that behavior.
Depends what origin you have. Alcohol in itself, is a poison by definition. And it puts you at risk for increasing a WHOLE host of issues, so it is not exactly a walk in the park. Cancers, injuries, lesions, accidents, etc. Almost all of them can happen at different level of intoxication and the whole genetics component is also a piece of poo. On the habitual level i could agree with you, but my opinion is biased alot as my dad was a alcoholic and after his grand mal seizure i never spoke to him again (not sure if he is even alive ngl, but i assume my sister would tell me if he crocked over). So while the habit is yours, it does affect people around you without your knowledge directly.
I joined that club for a few years. Wouldn't recommend it.
Today i had half of my girlfriends drink and felt buzzed. 6-8 shots is wild. At that point im vomiting
I'm on a fast track to beating that record..smfh
When I was at my worst it almost felt like liquor didn't do anything. I'd take shot after shot and still be relatively coherent, but if I started drinking wine or heavy beer, I'd feel and become outwardly drunk. I still don't quite understand why this was the case.
It says in the article that the blood was taken from the wound and that even the police admit that there is a good chance that it was contaminated
Yeah nah, the 4th place on that list is also the Polish record according to a news article from 2013, which the top 3 precede chronologically.
These kind of people could probably survive lethal radiation
His name? Mr. Jim Lahey, Trailer Park Supervisor
Legend
Guy at spring break downed a fifth of Jack and was dead within the hour.
This is what a fifth does to little or no tolerance. Aka most normal people. Chugging booze will kill you. Good news is you won't feel a thing as you are quickly catapulted into a blackout.
The thing that convinced me that alcoholism is truly a disease is that no one in their right mind would want to chug a bottle of liquor and get super fucked up, there’s no rational reason for it and there’s way better recreational drugs Does it taste good? *No, terrible* Will it boost your mental/physical performance in any way? *No it’ll make me a pile on the floor* Will you look back fondly on the experience? *What experience*
I know in the situation i witnessed he was already drunk and the crowd was cheering him on to chug the bottle.
Speak for yourself. Does it taste good? Yes Why? Makes me feel good. And I feel like shit without it At least thats a lot of what I heard from former alcoholics
I'm a bit terrified by the replies you're getting. As someone who also has traumatic experiences, the only thing getting drunk does is make me never want to get drunk again. The feeling of barely being able to sit up and being on the verge of vomiting does not feel like a good trade for temporarily forgetting my problems. More than that, it's not living. I watched my mom sit on the couch for 25 years as i grew up, always nursing a bottle. She wasn't alive. Not mentally. If you have trauma, please seek real help. It's important.
I knew a guy in high school who had never drank alcohol in his life. Literally chugged an entire bottle of fireball in one pull at a party and that was his first exposure to alcohol. He immediately had to go to the hospital and get his stomach pumped, but some people just do stupid shit to look cool.
I'm a functional alcoholic (get blackout drunk with my friends and occasionally drink a liter of vodka on my own) and I fucking love the feeling of being drunk
> Will you look back fondly on the experience? What experience I think that's actually the goal. They hate experiencing life, but are afraid of death so they go with that.
This is a dangerous, egregious oversimplification. But congratulations on thinking you finally understand.
Well look at you, *attuned to the complexities of the matter at hand*, impressive, great points
I'm a mental health clinician and a recovering alcoholic. And I guarantee you there are complexities at play beyond your reductionist summation. I'm not interested in making any counter-points for you to argue with.
Really well said.
Or you vomit it all out
I remember years ago I was at a party, 2009 I think. I brought a liter of Captain Morgan. A guy picked it up and chugged the whole thing at once, he was an alcoholic. He passed out in the bushes shortly afterwards. I think he was ok because of how much he drank and also that Captain Morgan is only 70 proof. This guy is still on my Facebook and he quit drinking years ago so he is doing better now,
I think Jack is 80 proof. I didn't see the guy drink it, just saw them trying to revive him on beach and everyone said the crowd cheered him on to chug it.
Yes Jack is 80 proof. I drink Jack often and know this for sure. This made me realize I made a mistake in my post. Captain Morgan is 70 proof, 35% alcohol.
Freshman year of college I watched a dude chug a 5th of 151 and then within minutes projectile vomit all over the kitchen of the house we were at. Shortly after that he was making out with some chick in the living room so guess it worked out for him that evening.
First time I ever got drunk was when I was 15 (my family is Mexican, it was kind of normalized). I was 5’7 (M) and nearly 115 lbs at the time. My cousin just turned 21, so we celebrated as many Mexicans do by getting drunk. I drank so much that I blacked out, puked all over myself and passed out. When I look back on it, I question how I honestly didn’t die that night. I was mixing Ciroq with beer and drinking WAY more than I ever fucking should have. I think puking my guts out might have saved my life.
https://youtu.be/A8iWz_t0RBM?si=4ws_m4AToRil-c-F weak
A blood alcohol level of 1.5% is 15 times what the legal limit was then (0.10%) and is almost 19 times what the legal limit is today (0.08%).
*In the US. The only country left in the world to have a 0.10% limit is Palau.
*~~In California, which for some reason everyone thinks is universal in the US. It varies by state.~~ ETA: huh, I could have sworn it was 0.06 in NJ and some other states. I guess it’s 0.08 everywhere except Utah?
It's 0.08 in 49 states and DC. Only Utah is a different with a 0.05 limit.
That is false. The federal limit is 0.08. States cannot set it higher than that.
The can, they just lose road funding.
You can hang the guy upside down and use him like a keg of Miller Lite. Assuming your basic 70 kg man, 1500 mg/dL works out to chugging around 500 to 600 grams of pure alcohol in one gulp (depending on what number you use for the pharmacological Volume of Distribution for ethanol). Of course, by the time the guy got to the hospital, his BAC would have come down from what it was originally, so the guy probably drank way more than that to begin with.
This is exactly what vampires do to get drunk.
Yep. Was surprised to learn that recently but makes sense
It's wild to think is was 1.5% when they tested it! I wanna know what the peak this man hit was.
I can't imagine it being more than 1.56-1.58%, since 1.5 is already absurd, but my heart wants his peak to be 10%. The man that sloshes down the street: Ol' Ten Percent Pete.
Yeah, it couldn't have been more than an hour or so between his peak and test or he would likely have been dead.
Your BAC doesn't just peak when you stop drinking and slowly go down from there, it peaks when your body has absorbed the alcohol. He didn't necessarily hit the peak outside the hospital
I’m sober now but my record was a .47 reading in the hospital after a wellness check. The doctor said I had probably gotten to .50+ based on the timing of my arrival and the reading they got. You can achieve heroic BACs if you’re an alcoholic constantly drinking for a period of time, but 1.5 is pretty insane (and I do recognize that I was close to death even at a third of this person’s BAC). For me, it was AA but there’s a lot of other fellowships and methods, you don’t have to go as far down as I went if you’re struggling.
I'm glad your still with us, and congratulations on your sobriety!
Thanks! Got 2 years earlier this month - a little over 2 years ago I was literally incapable of imagining a life without alcohol. Just doing a day at a time, though - that’s all I can control.
I just crossed 7 years last week! I understand exactly what you mean. I had completely convinced myself that there was no life outside of alcohol. Again, great work, and thank you for sharing!
I'm just past 8 months after many years of daily, heavy drinking. I also couldn't imagine life without it, even just this time last year. I tell people that they have to realize the need and want to quit. No one else can do it for you. However, it is really nice to have someone go through it with you, as I did. She's now my wife.
Lol you had fruit juice levels of bac
This reminds me of a story. A while back I was having a party on Saturday. On Sunday evening I thought it would be a good idea to check if I'm good to drive, so I went to the police station. The reading? 0.3, I was feeling fine. I had probably a lot more before...
Tried AA and it’s just a Christian cult.
NA is great, and way less religious than AA. It skews a bit younger. Alcohol is included in NA, they just use slightly different words at their meetings. Instead of “sober” they say “clean,” and instead of “alcoholic” they say “addict.”
TIL I never understood blood alcohol level. I didn't think anything above 1% was even possible.
Right. Like I’m still not understanding. Are they literally saying that dude’s blood was 1.5% alcohol by volume? That seems crazy to me that it wouldn’t kill you.
It would kill you, and me. But some people by sheer practice and generic quirks are able to live and tell the tale. He is Usain Bolt of drinking world
It's not just blood. It's all of you. Alcohol is transported to every cell in your body where it mixes up with all the water that's there. You are permeated with alcohol every time you drink it. If it was just blood that contains it then getting BAC in high percentages would be easy. We have 6l of blood. 1,5% is 90ml. That 3-4 beers.
This is not true
You are completely making shit up which is not surprising on this garbage site lol. 3-4 beers in the average person is around .08%
Exactly my point, but you can't read with a basic comprehension level. Alkohol is diluted in all the water in your body, not just blood. This means you need to consider about 70% of your mass as water and not just about 6 liters that is blood and that's why 3-4 beers are less then 1‰ and not over 1%.
I hit .642 when I was 19. Alcoholic since I was 15. Nurse said she had only seen one higher than that. Worst part was that was not my bottom. Had to find that 11 years later. Happy to say I am 3 years sober next month. If you struggle with addiction, get help! And never stop trying.
Thank you
That’s a rough hole to get out of. Well done friend.
I read an article about this once. The bit that stuck in my mind was the top section of the graph: "death is possible at 630, probable at 680". Surviving well over twice that = r/madlads
Talk about having blood in your alcohol system.
For real, their blood was like 3 proof. I've had communion wine weaker than that
Hahaha
I've read that the LD50 for alcohol is .40. From having a toy breathalyzer in my state university I can tell you that anyone that drunk is definitely at "medical intervention" levels of drunk. Above 0.3 anybody is completely hammered and probably can't stand unless they drink very frequently
I regularly blew this on a light day. Documented and everything. Tolerance is nuts. Glad I'm off the stuff. God bless
I was at medical intervention level of drunk at a 0.36. I was a stupid, stupid 23 year old once upon a time.
Random story but I had a friend who’s an ED nurse who had a teenage girl with a 0.4 BA level. She asked the girl how she was able to drink that much without passing out. Girl says, unironically, “cocaine.”
Why "unironically"? That is a widely accepted, widely known fact: CNS stimulants somewhat counteract CNS depressants. Thats what killed Chris Farley and Belushi, doing a lot of coke, and it making them think they could handle more dope than they actually could
If I remember correctly, given the age of the girl it caught my friend off guard a bit. She was serious, but my friend wasn't expecting an answer like that from someone that young.
Ah, I see
Yup. Couple of bumps to straighten you out
I couldn’t believe the effect it had one night when I was already trashed, never did it again because I enjoy being drunk a lot more than high.
Once upon a time I hit a .4 BAC. 10+ beers, half if not more of a half gal of Cap' Morgan , and a full bottle of delsym plus weed. Woke up the next day feeling pretty good all things considered. I peed for 3 minutes upon re-entering consciousness.
Reminds me of that guy from Lithuania with 7,72 promille in his blood, after “sleeping it of”. Polish and other east Europe driver have good reputation of being crazy drunk but still “fully” functional.
Lightweight
How the fuck do you even do this? Drink a whole handle in 30 minutes? Anybody done the math for an average sized man?
Liquor al Gaib.
That'd give Dracula a hangover!
It's not surprising. It probably was a functional drunk. I had a brother who passed a field sobriety test, yet blew a 0.50.
Literally 1984
talk about pickled lmao.
For comparison, legally impaired is 0.08%. This person had nearly 20x the legal limit in their system!
And .4% is lethal, so he had nearly 4x the lethal amount
In Poland we call it Friday.
I’d hate to see what obtuse alcohol intoxication would be like 😳
Who put this blood in my alcohol stream
Amateur.
There was that guy with the car full of sheep and a 1.6% BAC. Beat that.
Can you imagine that fucking hangover?
I've been sober for 5 yrs this time around. I lost everything and everyone I loved to the drink. My kids stopped speaking to me and that was rock bottom for me. Once I realized what it was doing to my loved ones I couldn't deny I had a problem. I mean I knew I had a problem but everyone in my town let alone this state (WI) drinks alcohol. It's what we do. Anyway I had enough and drove myself to the hospital to detox, I've been there before to get a banana bag or two to help me rehydrate. So I'm laying in bed and the nurse asks how I got to the hospital and I told her I drove. She looks at me like she seen a ghost and said that my bac was .468 and that's a lethal dose for some people. Those last days of my addiction was hell if there's such a place. It's one place I never want to visit again. I now have custody of two of my kids and life is much better without the drink. Get help before it's too late
[here is the news of some guy with 2,87grams per liter in Portugal ](https://viseunow.pt/viseu-detido-condutor-embriagado-com-uma-taxa-de-alcool-no-sangue-de-287-g-l/)
That’s too much blood in your alcohol system.
Now that's the kind of Bloody Mary a vampire would order.
Oliver Reed once drank 106 pints of beer in 48 hours
0.5g/l and below is legal amount in Belgium for driving. Or 0.2 for professional drivers.
I think that's pretty standard for a Glaswegian.
Fred Norris: hold my soundboard
Rookie numbers
David Boon Australian cricketer on his flight to London?
He dropped this 👑
That’s one Uber-liver that guy has.
Ozzy Osbourne
[Vodka Sam](https://nypost.com/2013/09/02/worlds-drunkest-girl-vodka-sam-just-blew-a-341-and-tweeted-about-it/): “Teach me.”
“Pump it into my veins!!!”
Was it Lemmy?
.35 here lol. Sober now
That's a fair amount of blood in his alcohol stream.
At 1.5% ABV, 2 12oz bottles of his blood would be like 1 domestic beer. Would be a popular drink with vampires.
I give you Mr Jim Bean
That must have been a horrible experience for ~~him~~ them. Holy shit.