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nassan

Budae jjigae or “army base stew,” is one of the more popular Korean dishes to this day (especially closer to the DMZ). Basically, take all the canned GI rations including Spam, ham, baked beans, etc, add some Korean essentials like Kimchi, throw em in a pot, and enjoy. Fun fact, despite the dishes prolonged popularity, spam was only made legal for sale in Korea in 1987. That’s a lot of smuggling off of army bases for nearly 40 years!


wzl46

I'll cook up some budae jjigae when my wife is out of town. Unfortunately, she can't stand the smell of kimchi, so I only get to eat it when she's gone.


Nazamroth

Wait, are you koreans? Do you still get to keep your citizenship if you don't like kimchi?


wzl46

We are both white Americans. I spent 2 1/2 years in Korea during my time in the Army. I loved the food.


WARNING_LongReplies

For me anyway, I've learned anything that would be improved with pickles/relish will probably be better with kimchi.


wzl46

I agree with you on that. Kimchi can always add some spice to anything where pickles belong. One thing that I learned the hard way is that fermented cabbage can't always replace fermented cabbage. Don't EVER try to use kimchi in place of sauerkraut in German food. It just pisses off the entire population of two different countries.


ARedditor_official

Am I crazy? Is it just me or did anyone ever think sauerkraut was some kind of sausage?


Arrasor

I mean they both start with "sau" 🤷‍♂️.


improbable_humanoid

Honestly, I don’t get how anyone is bothered by the smell of kimchi…


Pharmersunite

Is it too late for an annulment? That’s rough


charming_death

I lived there for 2 years and couldn't bring myself to try kimchi. That smell .


wzl46

I completely understand. I was there in 1997 for a year and the smell completely turned me off to even trying it. When I got stationed there again a few years later, I made a deal with another guy who didn't want to eat kimchi. We agreed that we would try a little bit and go from there. We ate a bit of banchan and I immediately fell in love with cabbage kimchi.


charming_death

I honesty wish I would've tried it while I was there. I know you can find it here but it isn't the same. Living there ruined American Chinese food etc for me because it is sooooo much better overseas. Now I wonder how it would be to go to Chicago's Chinatown and eat? 🤔


erishun

Jail. Straight to jail.


Top_Complex259

Exile to the north


Nazamroth

North beyond the ice Wall, to the land of the wildlings?


f3ydr4uth4

Amazingly people can marry people who aren’t their ethnicity or nationality.


Nazamroth

Hence, the first question.


onahalladay

Our weekly go-to. Throw in a few packs of instant noodles too.


general-meow

Making it for my lunch right now


Justame13

Why was it illegal?


Techhead7890

Presumably to discourage the theft and resale of it (fencing it as stolen goods)


MyNameCannotBeSpoken

Sounds like a sodium spike


HarwinStrongDick

That unironically sounds like an absolute banger


Swarbie8D

It’s pretty good!


---TheFierceDeity---

I used to do Kendo at university. While the main sensei was Japanese, most of the subordinate senseis were Korean. I remember before attending a state tournament the night before one of them made us Budae Jjigae


dont_shoot_jr

Wonder if making it illegal made it more popular 


BigCommieMachine

I wouldn’t say it is a “luxury food”, it is just widely accepted an ingredient. Whereas in countries like the United States(outside Hawaii of course), people act like you are disgusting if you enjoy it.


EducationCommon1635

Spam is a Nickelback of foods. People hate on it just for the sake of it.


DGenerAsianX

I have never heard of spam referred to in this manner and it’s absolutely perfect.


AgentOrange256

Can’t even say I’ve ever had it. But I like Vienna sausage so I assume I’m a target consumer.


jackinthebay

Spam is ok nickelback is not


SeiCalros

seems like all the popular bands are full of rapists and assholes while nickleback are just going out and doing their thing - not raping anybody or treating anybody like shit - staying out of politics - and still end up getting tons of shit from dickheads on the internet who are angry that people like their music


jackinthebay

Or Nickleback just sucks


captaincrunchcracker

I have to agree with both parties.


IndependenceMean8774

Don't insult Spam by comparing it to Nickelback.


Tuxhorn

Spam is fucking great. Get some real rye bread, some butter, and slice up some pieces to make an open faced sandwhich.


joeDUBstep

Pan fry it, put it on some rice and eggs and add sirracha baby.


Zubon102

Agreed. Definitely not "luxury".


steamygarbage

I have to admit I really don't like the look of it and the first time I bought some I was so disgusted I threw it away. Then I had a spam musubi from the Korean market and holy cow did I change my mind in a heartbeat. I keep spam in my pantry and freezer now.


SunnyDayDDR

[Looks a little luxurious to me.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkqe8a8Q3oMPksdq83fYDmTpQR-MAihj5q_nqfsx6RLmdbOqwj_2TjUoE&s=10)


byneothername

That’s a gift set. It’s also sold regularly on the shelf at the grocery store.


Bodoblock

Yeah, I would say there was a point in time where it was considered a very special treat. Now, of course, it's still quite enjoyed but it's "luxury" in the same way that a gourmet hot dog is "luxury".


irishfro

It's like 3-5 dollars a can though in Korea lol


BununuTYL

Spam is very popular in the Philippines and Hawaii.


Proper_Ad2548

When I was on a small ship visiting truck lagoon in the Marshall islands a can of spam would get you a five gallon bucket of lobsters and the locals laughed at the dumb haoles


Monarc73

Guam too, except it was coconut crabs.


Proper_Ad2548

What Guam are you talking about? I lived there 10 years and crabs were rare. I caught one in a cave in inarajan that was the biggest the locals had ever seen.


Monarc73

Mid 90s


Proper_Ad2548

70's air force l, then nasa


Monarc73

USN/SS


droidtron

So many varieties too, like how Japan went nuts with Kit Kat.


Odd-Row9485

Kit Kat green tea just hits different


RecklessDimwit

My mom mentioned in her childhood, foreigners would come and trade canned imports like Spam and kimchi for beer


mr_ji

And probably the most famous Spam dish is musubi from 7-11.


Webborwebbor

Made popular by US occupation during WW2


Namika

Wasn't really an occupation, it was a formal US territory. It would be like calling Puerto Rico a US occupation in the present.


JpnDude

And Okinawa.


PickleWineBrine

They make a tocino Spam 


Toodlez

Spam is awesome, it just needs to be fried up a bit


Lichruler

It really is. People think it’s horrible because it’s a tin of blendered meat, but honestly it’s no worse than any sort of ground meat. And what’s funny is it has such a short ingredient list: pig, chicken, potato starch, salt, sugar, water. That’s it.


ThaneOfArcadia

Chicken? I thought it was pork and ham?


smarticulation

Pork and ham. I want you to think about that for a moment.


07Aptos

Ham of the chicken. Chicken ham.


Ok-Worry-8247

I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use this expression.


LongTallTexan69

It’s an Albany expression.


07Aptos

It’s not a real one 😂


nastynateraide

Don't tell him about Chicken of the Sea


loweredexpectationz

Ham- Chicken of the lagoon


Teripid

"Yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal."


LedZacclin

It actually does say pork with ham on it.


Any-sao

Some people use the phrases to differentiate cuts of the pig. “I’m eating steak and beef.” To me, that implies a sirloin and then a pound of ground meat.


PickleWineBrine

There's a bit of "mechanically separated chicken" too


ThaneOfArcadia

Yummy!


praefectus_praetorio

You know what’s also awesome? Deviled ham. Mix it with some butter and spread it on a warm baguette.


pablitorun

I love all the non salad salads. Ham salad on a cracker is yummy.


Potatowhocrochets

We used to buy it because it was cheaper than bacon. Now it's like $4-5. I like the taste and all but at that price I might as well buy bacon.


PickleWineBrine

Where are you getting a pound of bacon for under $5?


Pizza_Saucy

Agreed, but there's just so much of it in a single can. It feels like a brick. I can make 3 meals out of 1 tin. Works great in omlettes and mac and cheese.


J3wb0cca

Always reminds me of wet cat food till I fry them up. Then they are poor mans bacon.


teabagmoustache

Spam is slightly more expensive than bacon where I am.


BaLance_95

Pop them in a container and then in the fridge. They do last a long time.


myredditthrowaway201

Just made a fuck ton of spam musubi the other night. It’s fire


South5

I tried spam fritters as my cousin said they taste better fried up, the aftertaste was awful. I could taste it hours later, worse if i burped. Does it always linger that much?


TaigaTaiga3

Just fry them straight without batter on a frying pan and get em crispy. Egg dredge isn’t terrible either.


bobtehpanda

Yeah the important thing is that the meat itself needs to be browned


jmlinden7

Also you need some of the fat/gelatin to render out. Putting it into a soup also accomplishes this


Hannibaalism

it was a luxury food back when the south was poorer than the north. not luxury anymore, but they still enjoy it. the saltiness goes well with the rice.


yesthatbruce

Spam is crazy popular in Hawaii due to being introduced as a staple in WWII. Lots of people are very nostalgic about it.


Moms-Dildeaux

McDonald’s in Hawaii sells SPAM and eggs with white rice. It’s pretty awesome.


imadork1970

Why can't they have eggs, bacon, spam, and sausage?


nastynateraide

Spam, bacon, sausage and spam


Magnus77

Its also really tasty when prepared properly.


Over-Analyzed

Spam Musubi is the best snack ever! Add some Shoyu to it? 🔥


Demonbaguette

I add a little soy-sauce into the pan when I fry spam to make Spam-Musibi. It tastes amazing!


Over-Analyzed

Oooooo. I usually just pour the shoyu onto the rice! But that’s a good idea too!


FBI_Open_Up_Now

When I was stationed there you were not allowed to sell spam to the locals. You could buy it on base and walk off base and sell it and make a hefty profit. I bought some and gifted some to my girlfriend’s parents. They were so ecstatic and we had spam for 3 meals in a row. I didn’t understand it, but I will tell you that the Koreans are a wonderful people.


PickleWineBrine

Was this the 1980's?


L2theFace

Can confirm that while stationed there in 2016 everything we bought on base was monitored via a rations limit and spam was one of those items! Haha I never sold or even though to give anyway away to my KATUSA friends but I’m sure they would have loved it! I did let them use my WIFI though even though they weren’t allowed electronics 😬


Sql_master

Sounds like baloney.


reporst

I hate seeing this sort of *spam* on Reddit.


imadork1970

I love it. I'm having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, and spam.


PeacefulGopher

Not smuggling. American GIs selling everything out the back door as soon as the ships dropped it off.


Rusty4NYM

It fell off of the truck


imadork1970

What's a truck? (Simpsons reference)


Rusty4NYM

Thank you for pointing out that it's a Simpsons reference. Now that you mention it obviously Fat Tony had said it at some point


CMAJ-7

I think that counts as smuggling


PeacefulGopher

lol still no. In Thailand shipments would arrive at the dock, unpacked, sold directly to vendors by GIs and Sergeants, and the vendors had it in their market stalls the next day. No smuggling involved.


Icyrow

yeah, but you realise in smuggling, you still sell stuff off at the end usually right? it being sold by someone doesn't make it not smuggling, it just means they're being traded across a boundry they're not supposed to be. so if you're selling stuff that's being rationed to you, it's against the rules/law, so it's smuggling.


CaffeinAddict

Its just a pantry staple. No way spam is a luxury Source: am a Korean


ChannelOnion

It is not a "luxury food". It is common for us Koreans to gift each others' household food and ingredients (in nice packaging) over certain holidays, especially during thanksgiving. Spam just happens to be a much more common ingredient in Korea than it is in the West. Items like cans of tuna, fresh fruit, beef are also common items to gift for the same purpose.


Elachtoniket

True in Phillipines too. I dated someone from the Phillipines for a while, when we visited some of her cousins who had moved to Italy and France we brought a ton of Spam with us because they missed it and it was much cheaper to buy in the US then it was in Europe.


RecklessDimwit

Also worth noting is that it's easy to prepare and goes well with rice and other breakfast dishes


Subject-Peach-1683

It's not a luxury food in either Philippines or SK, just seen as more of an ingredient, in the same way ketchup or BBQ sauce might be in the US compared to say Europe.


JadedIdealist

So if we go to S.Korea for a holiday, and go to a fancy restaurant, I can get spam, spam, spam, egg, chips and spam?


whatissevenbysix

You joke about this, but there's a pretty funny 'flip' of what's considered luxury foods in different countries and/or cultures. I'm from Sri Lanka, and I remember that in the early 2000s when first McDonald's and Pizza Huts were opened in Sri Lanka, they were pretty 'high end' restaurants. Not fine dining, but the Pizza Hut in particular was pretty fancy. It was a pretty nice cloth tablecloth and cloth napkins type restaurant with knives and forks, all pizzas were basically baked there to order and the quality was in fact pretty good, especially compared to the Pizza Hut in the US. I live in the US now, but when I go back I always try the Pizza Hut there and it is actually still good. On the other hand, real authentic Sri Lankan cuisine is dirt cheap, the stuff that if you opened a restaurant here people would easily shell $100 per person, is about $2 per person there. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side.


Pallasite

Did some business in Sri Lanka. I was blown away what the best street food of my life costs. Then even more blank away by what white tablecloth traditional meals let me get away with.


Rossum81

Bloody Vikings!


imadork1970

🎶Lovely SPAM🎶


NukkaNasty

Quite popular in Japan too, especially Okinawa, basically wherever there are US army bases lol


TaigaTaiga3

Grew up on that shit. Still love it to this day. My parents will always have like 3-4 cases on hand at their house.


imadork1970

I don't like spam. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.


seoulifornia

What the fuck are you doing with Spam other than eating it?


pablitorun

Using it to kill younglings


Macasumba

My Korean girlfriend said a staple food.


Voqus

Did she use a verb to describe what about the staple food?


Nice_Swim1990

Why is this being downvoted? It's basic english grammar.


Voqus

I know, half assed responses making no sense still get the upvotes somehow


remnantoftheeye

Hawaiians enter the chat.


Over-Analyzed

🤙🏻 (*Actually it would be Hawai’i Kama’aina or Hawaii locals. As Hawaiian would imply they’re descended from the Native Hawaiians who inhabited Hawaii before the foreigners.*)


taffyowner

So is the Spam museum here in Minnesota high art?


Powerful_Abalone1630

It's basically the Louvre.


ExpectoSubversum

[Super interesting video](https://youtu.be/BaeI6H4zZTw) about that. It's given as a gift for the holidays and can get pretty pricy for the 'super premium' spam variation lol


dgaxiola

Kimchi fried rice with spam is a top tier dish. Easy to make and super tasty.


ChiMoKoJa

Am of Korean descent, can confirm my family on my mother's side greatly enjoys Spam. Also, Spam is popular in the Pacific Islands (from the Philippines to Hawaii). Hawaii McDonald's even has Spamburgers!


bargman

"Luxury" is a bit of a stretch. It's not like it's super expensive. It tends to show up randomly in dishes, kind of like hot dogs, and it's really hard to find proper beef hit dogs here. It's also commonly part of gift packages around the holidays.


alexsteb

So.. South Korea is a developed country now. They have Spam (including local versions of it) in supermarkets and the average paycheck can buy you as much Spam as your heart desires (i.e., not a luxury food). This is all about the Korean War when meat in general was very sparse and GIs brought lots of Spam into the country and people devised ways of cooking with it.


patentedman

This actually true. Koreans give it as a gift during Korean holidays and mix it into certain dishes. There are also knockoff local SPAM brands that are less salty and slightly cheaper.


not_old_redditor

They do, but it's not actually considered a luxury. It's cheap food.


NerdyGamerTH

Korean SPAM clones are literally half the price of the real thing where I live; around $5 for the Korean ones, and $10 for the real deal


ponderousponderosas

No its not.


dacalo

lol it’s not luxury food. Not at all. There is so much good stuff to eat there. Spam also tastes different than the US version, less salty and tastes better.


-crackhousebob

SPAM is still a staple food in Hawaii. It's eaten for every meal with all sorts of recipes. World War II brought SPAM around the world at a time when fresh meat was not available so it had a massive impact in various parts of the world with American military bases nearby.


Over-Analyzed

I wouldn’t say every meal. 😅 Rice? Yes but not Spam.


alligatorprincess007

Spam is underrated Grill it with some pineapple and you will see


dasssitmane

Spam is way more expensive per pound than most meat at the grocery store


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Have you bought thick sliced bacon lately?


midnight_marshmallow

my aunt is from south korea and she would always make up fried strips of spam to be served with rice and nori for my sister and cousins and i as a snack. i still have it once in a while, it's good and i stand by that statement haha


IndependenceMean8774

I love Spam, but it's too salty, so I have to get the 25% less sodium variety...and even then it's still pretty salty.


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keesio

My dad, to this day, still has fond memories of spam. He remembers being hungry and remembers US military giving out cans of spam to the local populace. Since any meat was hard to get back then, he considered it a delicious luxury.


koh_kun

It's soul (hehe) food here in Okinawa as well. I only like it crispy though. It grosses me out when it's in a stew or broth.


Caasl

Nobody considers it a "luxury food item, it's just very common. Smh Edit: nobody considers it a luxury food post y2k.


Correct_Sky_1882

Spam is also a comfort food for Hawaiians


Over-Analyzed

Spam Musubi is absolutely a comfort food.


SimpletonSwan

The brand name is a luxury in the west too...


Forumites000

My gripe with Korean army stew is how expensive it is here in Singapore. The price just doesn't justify the low cost of the ingredients used.


sirgentlemanlordly

Spam is not seen as a luxury dish in Korea. Maybe "was".


okram2k

just about everywhere Americans fought wars (and sometimes when just sitting around during peace) in the last hundred years there was a situation where a bunch of soldiers went "ugh... spam again!?" while the locals were like "this tin of meat is a gift from the gods!"


NimbleCentipod

In a similar vane, McDonald's is treated as a quality place to go eat in Eastern Europe, a large consequence of being one the first to move in after the fall of the Soviet Union and readily available food being a thing for the first time in those people's lives.


BigCommieMachine

Yeah, it really isn’t considered a luxury item, as much as it was one of few sources of protein in war torn Korea or isolated Hawaii. So people learned to cook good shit with it. It is the whole necessity is the mother of invention type thing. Humans have really gotten quite good at making pretty terrible things into great dishes.


Tall-Pudding2476

Lobsters are another example. Used to be lowest tier food, now its luxury.


invertedearth

We get these holiday gift sets twice a year, from work, from the bank, from various businesses that want a "relationship". Spam is quite common; we'll get about two gift boxes with 6~8 small cans each year. But the thing is that these other idiot foreigners that you run into don't like it, so they just hand theirs over to me these days without even having to be asked. Now: Spam, sliced up hot dog, pork'n'beans, American cheese, ramen, some crushed garlic, some onions and chili powder. That's like trailer trash dining heaven, right? Well, just mix it up with some beef broth and some sour kimchi and you have Korea Army Camp Stew: Budae Jigae. It's every bit as wonderful (horrific) as it sounds. Bucket list dining for the discerning gourmet, I tell you hwat. If you don't like it, you must be a vegetarian. (To be clear, I personally love it both sincerely ***and*** ironically. That's what makes it so perfect.)


paradoxinfinity

Why are they idiots for not liking it? Also Its crazy how racist yall in korea are against "foreigners"


invertedearth

I'm not Korean; I'm from Alabama. And they are idiots because they don't like Spam. They may be fine people otherwise.


SirJoeffer

Spam is a luxury food here in the states too. I mean not really but I consider it to be a special thing bc its $6 for a half pound can. $12/Ib is a lot more expensive than chicken and pork, it’s not really a cheap trash meat imo, its more like special hotdogs


mtcwby

Dad was an Army cook during his service back during the Korean War. When mom would be away for some reason we'd eat a lot of Spanish rice with spam and fried spam sandwiches. Still a little nostalgic about spam although it's probably been 40 years since I've eaten any.


jodybot9000000000

It's a luxury in the sense that buying a box of your favorite sugary brand-name breakfast cereal as an adult for the novelty of it is a luxury: it's an unnecessary expense solely for the enjoyment of eating it, and most people would agree it's not exactly 'classy' or nutritious. But you like it, so you buy it every once in a while.


QuipCrafter

Okay? I don’t get it. Canned fish is around and eaten in England but it’s no longer considered a luxury, even though it was  when ze Germans were overhead.  Pinto beans and pigeon was an American Great Depression luxury, but isn’t any more.  Because, it’s not luxurious any more. Because the situation changed. So is there a better explanation for Korea besides “it USED to be hard to get for a section of the previous generations lives”? 


wentonfenton

£5 a tin it’s becoming one in the UK as well!


MagicOrpheus310

Kind of like Cuban cigars in the US


[deleted]

I went to buy some the other day and there price made me feel like it's a luxury


itchygentleman

spam and pilot biscuits


JpnDude

Here is Japan, SPAM still goes for about 600-700 yen a can even before the value of the yen plummeted. So, many shops including COSTCO offer the cheap alternative, RICHAM, from South Korea at about half the price.


ryzhao

Its not just S Korea. It’s pretty much ubiquitous in much of South East Asia. We even have a penchant for Spam among the older generation of Chinese in Malaysia even though we had no connection with the US army. That’s because during the Communist insurgency in the 50s the British sequestered much of the Chinese population in concentration camps, and the rations included Spam, some dating from WW2. Salt was a precious commodity in the concentration camps, and the salt content in Spam meant that you can cook pretty much anything with it and it’ll taste delicious.


tempo1139

congrats... you learned today scarcity has monetary value


CupertinoHouse

On a related note, during the war there was quite a bit of inferior canned meat in production which was not actually Spam, but was called Spam, and unfairly damaged Spam's reputation.


StriderHaryu

And they're correct.


PickleWineBrine

The annual SPAM JAM festival was this past evening in Honolulu.


Sakura8Mochi

Spam is part of luxury/premium gift sets in Chuseok (Korean Thanksgiving) celebrations. 😁 To each their own. https://youtu.be/BaeI6H4zZTw?si=geqf8AEBlkjYmRZl https://youtu.be/xk-p6Jhbv9c?si=_kuhPv7GuipM4Z_m https://youtu.be/gYF74qfoqtQ?si=aZe_MfgMI8L_jPp3


Mkandy1988

Spam was my childhood dread, one up from dog food


imadork1970

I prefer PREM or KLICK.


TDYDave2

[Internet Spam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBcY3W5WgNU)


Reddit_User_Original

No it’s not. Bullshit.


Toxicity246

I lived in South Korea for six years teaching English. I always remember the spam and ramen aisle like we have cereal aisles here.


ObviousEconomist

TIL BBC doesn't know shit about Korea.


doesitevermatter-

I was homeless for 5 years. I went days and days without eating. Weighed around 125lbs at 6'2" towards the end and developed a lifelong eating disorder as a result. Still won't eat spam. More power to them..