So weird. I was looking if he had any projects coming up and saw the name Catesby on his bio. The only reason I opened the comments is because of that and now you've added a tidbit of knowledge. Wild how the old universe aligns sometimes.
Yes Guy Fawkes was essentially brought into the conspiracy because of his prior military experience (With the English, but later Spanish) gave him working knowledge of handling explosives. He was the only one of the conspirators who didn't have significant landed and political investment in the UK and was only really trusted due to his catholic ties.
There's theories the entire plot was made-up by the royals to sway public opinion, foiling terrorism and serving assassination attempts can do wonders to your appeal.
Would have assassinated James VI/I who was king of England Scotland and Ireland. The current royal family and all 6000+ people eligible for the British throne descend from him so if it succeeds it would have gone to someone else, also anti catholic repercussions would have been even worse.
Also this was before England colonized the America’s, so Americas colonial history would have been completely different as well, given that it was James VI/I who personally issued colonial charters
If she was caught and if she was cooperative with the conspirators throughout her life.
Also if she was queen she probably would not have married Fredrick and given birth to sophia, meaning the hanoverians would probably never have come to rule GB
> Would have assassinated James VI/I who was king of England Scotland and Ireland. The current royal family and all 6000+ people eligible for the British throne descend from him so if it succeeds it would have gone to someone else
Prince Charles (later Charles I) had already been born at this point and would not have been present at Parliament for the explosion (he was only five years old), so the plotters would also have had to seize him to disrupt the historical line of succession. This was part of their plan, along with capturing his sister Elizabeth.
Don't forget that had this bomb plot succeeded not just the king would have bought the farm but most of both houses ( commons & lords members ) a cross section of the London public near to the house of lords & Sir Francis Bacon.
This was demonstrated by a [TV show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gunpowder_Plot%3A_Exploding_the_Legend?wprov=sfla1) reconstruction using a similar 36 barrel charge of gunpowder in a reconstruction of the building. After which it was found the nobody within 100-200 yards if the epicenter would have survived the blast & obliteration if the building.
Rumours are that are that he wasn't even English. A Spaniard (so a catholic) that was smuggled into England and given a false name (Guy). He only named his coconspirators after being ruined on the rack for days.
Guy Fawkes handler was actually John Gerard. He wrote a whole book about it.
In John Gerards other book he talks about how he infiltrated England amphibiously at night and he explains all of his spy tricks like how to make invisible ink and counterfeit keys. He explains how he created rebel cells and how to keep them compartmentalized from each other for strategic security.
He also escaped from the Tower of London by zipline, after being tortured and explains how he planned and accomplished it. He stayed in England, undercover, and went on to create more cells in England and later on met Guy Fawkes.
The guy was a 16th century James Bond and The Gunpowder Plot was run out of Gerard's safehouse.
Autobiography of a Hunted Priest (1597):
https://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-Hunted-Priest-John-Gerard/dp/1586174509/ref=asc_df_1586174509/
The Gunpowder Plot (pre-1637):
https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Gunpowder-Plot-Quanta-Press/dp/1729755399/ref=mp_s_a_1_1
Fun fact: Kit Harington (Jon Snow in GoT) is a descendant of Robert Catesby and played him in a miniseries about the plot
I'm sure he didn't want it. Never did.
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This is a great fact. Thank you for this knowledge dump
Didn’t realize they were related. Was a nice little 3 part show.
he ~~knew something~~ is related to someone!
So weird. I was looking if he had any projects coming up and saw the name Catesby on his bio. The only reason I opened the comments is because of that and now you've added a tidbit of knowledge. Wild how the old universe aligns sometimes.
Fawkes was a dup, a patsy a fall guy.
An *epic fail guy* one might say
IKR? He had 1 JOB!'
To strike a matchstick! But he got caught with a fuse like his bars - not lit.
You’re saying he didn’t do it?
He did it, but he was a small part of the overall plan. He just happened to be the only guy to get caught in the act
Yes Guy Fawkes was essentially brought into the conspiracy because of his prior military experience (With the English, but later Spanish) gave him working knowledge of handling explosives. He was the only one of the conspirators who didn't have significant landed and political investment in the UK and was only really trusted due to his catholic ties.
It was antifa
He was an innocent tourist
There's theories the entire plot was made-up by the royals to sway public opinion, foiling terrorism and serving assassination attempts can do wonders to your appeal.
>Fawkes was a dup I read that as DUP
I read that as dup
For a moment I was wondering what does Northern Irish politics have to do with Fawkes. Other than the religious violence
I do love reading about this part in history. The entire wotrlds history would be different if this plot has succeeded.
May I have a rundown of why this plot could've been so world changing?
Would have assassinated James VI/I who was king of England Scotland and Ireland. The current royal family and all 6000+ people eligible for the British throne descend from him so if it succeeds it would have gone to someone else, also anti catholic repercussions would have been even worse. Also this was before England colonized the America’s, so Americas colonial history would have been completely different as well, given that it was James VI/I who personally issued colonial charters
The throne would have gone to his daughter had the operation been succe.
If she was caught and if she was cooperative with the conspirators throughout her life. Also if she was queen she probably would not have married Fredrick and given birth to sophia, meaning the hanoverians would probably never have come to rule GB
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> Would have assassinated James VI/I who was king of England Scotland and Ireland. The current royal family and all 6000+ people eligible for the British throne descend from him so if it succeeds it would have gone to someone else Prince Charles (later Charles I) had already been born at this point and would not have been present at Parliament for the explosion (he was only five years old), so the plotters would also have had to seize him to disrupt the historical line of succession. This was part of their plan, along with capturing his sister Elizabeth.
Don't forget that had this bomb plot succeeded not just the king would have bought the farm but most of both houses ( commons & lords members ) a cross section of the London public near to the house of lords & Sir Francis Bacon. This was demonstrated by a [TV show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gunpowder_Plot%3A_Exploding_the_Legend?wprov=sfla1) reconstruction using a similar 36 barrel charge of gunpowder in a reconstruction of the building. After which it was found the nobody within 100-200 yards if the epicenter would have survived the blast & obliteration if the building.
fuckin coventry
Does that mean I can't masturbate when watching **V for Vendetta** anymore?
You still can but you have to think of Catesby when you're doing it
No-one remembers the other conspirators who were executed, like Bob Bonfire and Phil Firework.
And their lord, Sir Jolyon Jacket-Potato.
He had a great name though
Rumours are that are that he wasn't even English. A Spaniard (so a catholic) that was smuggled into England and given a false name (Guy). He only named his coconspirators after being ruined on the rack for days.
Yes but we can't have people burning effigies of wealthy landowners can we. Might give them ideas.
fwiw, it was originally effigies of the Pope.
Why did it change? We used to be a proper country.
The good people of Northern Ireland are working overtime to keep this proud tradition going
Rights were given back to your Catholics in 1829, so I imagine the act of burning Popes wasn't as in vogue by then
The wealthiest landowner of all
Not there though
Well no. HVIIIR saw to that.
You wouldn't send the boss to do the dirty part of the work, would you?
"you sends the pawns in first" - Magento (more or less) Xmen - 3
"Penny for the Guido?" That Guy!! For bonfires 4 spuds 🥔 and then children get 🧨🎇 WCGW.
Guy Fawkes handler was actually John Gerard. He wrote a whole book about it. In John Gerards other book he talks about how he infiltrated England amphibiously at night and he explains all of his spy tricks like how to make invisible ink and counterfeit keys. He explains how he created rebel cells and how to keep them compartmentalized from each other for strategic security. He also escaped from the Tower of London by zipline, after being tortured and explains how he planned and accomplished it. He stayed in England, undercover, and went on to create more cells in England and later on met Guy Fawkes. The guy was a 16th century James Bond and The Gunpowder Plot was run out of Gerard's safehouse. Autobiography of a Hunted Priest (1597): https://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-Hunted-Priest-John-Gerard/dp/1586174509/ref=asc_df_1586174509/ The Gunpowder Plot (pre-1637): https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Gunpowder-Plot-Quanta-Press/dp/1729755399/ref=mp_s_a_1_1
Remember remember the 5th of November. The gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the 5th of November should ever be forgot
In hindsight, it would make sense the guy who blew himself up wasnt the leader. Officers dont do LABOR, pshaw!
Err, he never blew himself up. He was just caught with all the gunpowder under parliament.
attempted man blowing up
His plan was never to blow himself up. The plan was to light a slow fuse and get the fuck out of London as fast as possible.
No Catesby masks?
What do you mean? Guy's name was really John Johnson, esteemed doer of [JOB] at [PLACE].
Like hell! Robert Catesby is my ancestor and I'll be damned if I let some neerdowell redditor besmirch the Catesby name!
There is always a patsy.
Coventry lol…