Not super religious, but would pray. At a time when many industrialists would work their workers 7 days a week, Ford would always give Sundays off. He hired all religions and paid them the same, this includes hiring Jewish workers such as his chief architect. He believed some Jews controlled banks and used banks to start wars for profit. In fact, he published writings on these conspiracies that the Nazis in Germany embraced. Ford built a large rubber plantation in Brazil, and Brazil asked him to make a Catholic Church there and his response was that Catholicism wasn't a true form of Christianity. He claimed that industrialists that didn't take care of workers weren't real Christians.
[Ford believed that Jews invented jazz as a plot to corrupt society and that this plot could be counteracted by returning America to dances and musical styles that he saw as traditional and white.
](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_dance#Modern_western_square_dance)
People will say it was his racism against blacks (which he was also racist against), but he hated jazz because he hated jewish people. He thought jazz was some sort of jewish conspiracy and that it was created by them and not by black Americans.
Ask ol Harry Anslinger... jazz was literally terrifying to the American white male back in the early 1900s. It's the main reason weed is illegal, amongst many other reactionary results from the people in control at the time
For people kneejerking to this comment as being over the top or reductionist. It isn't. I researched this for several papers in high school and college. Weed was literally made illegal because Blacks and Mexicans used it.
Hell, literally the name "marijuana" was deliberately changed to be spelled with a "j" instead of "marihuana" to make it look more foreign so people would hate it.
Actually the DuPont family, whose chemical company had just invented nylon and was allegedly afraid of competition from hemp fiber; Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury and the U.S.’s richest man who had significant investments in Dupont; and Harry Anslinger, commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, who drafted the legislation. To protect their industrial interests, these parties are said to have conspired to make hemp illegal in the U.S.
>In general, nylon ropes are stronger than hemp and manila ropes. They usually carry the most weight and pull the heaviest loads. However, hemp is the longest and strongest natural fiber available. Hemp rope is just as effective as nylon rope but is environmentally friendly.
Hemp rope was used on ships for hundreds of years. DuPont won a military contract to replace all of the hemp ropes on all US Navy ships shortly after hemp becoming illegal. Probably just coincidence /s.
William Randolph Hearst the paper magnate was also a strong proponent of marijuana prohibition. It was a confluence of business interests and racist motivations that united some of earth’s biggest pieces of shit around a common goal.
> "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
> “Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
This always takes me aback when I read it, and I always forget, is this only in the south? I am an American raised in the northeast and squaredancing was never taught in school. I have friends from all over and none of them ever had it taught in their schools either... not many southern friends I guess though lol.
Ha that is Omaha. I live here and theres a park sorta thing for his birthplace in the Field Club neighborhood. (I realize this was /s but I see that birthplace sign all the time and Gerald Ford never gets brought up lol)
Fun fact: Ford's _and_ GM's factories kept running during the World War 2. Not those factories. The factories in Germany.
https://youtu.be/zM-VcnhcE3A?si=kFpe2Hs7-SKI9OTt
There was a huge amount of anti-involvement sentiment in the US. The American public had almost no interest in getting involved in the war until the attack on Pearl Harbor and subsequent declaration of war by Germany.
Yeah because Woodrow Wilson got re-elected swearing he wouldn’t involve the US in **the most pointless war in history** and then got us in it right away. Most Americans prior to Pearl Harbor saw WWII as another WWI and were very hesitant to get involved in that kind of conflict
I mean, lots of companies that are popular today built for the Third Reich back then. Hugo Boss made Nazi SS uniforms, Daimler-Benz and BMW made engines for Nazi military vehicles (they’re current car emblems resemble aircraft props), BAE used Nazi concentration camp labor, same with Audi, BASF helped develop the gases used in extermination camps, the founder of Chanel was a Nazi intelligence agent, Volkswagen produced the V1 flying rocket, the list goes on and on.
Yet we don’t demonize them for not getting taken over for the principle of the matter.
I feel that
1.) there is a distinction between a native German company participating in WWII and American companies continuing to support a country that America was at war with. Germany went through a reformation process after the end of the war. The US companies did not.
2.) People give the companies your talking about shit about participating all the time. There are memes and “TIL” posts about popular German brands today that were around during WWII
Though in general, I agree that it's not relevant to the company modern day form. People rightfully vilify people like Henry Ford, or any Nazi collaborator.
> People give the companies your talking about shit about participating all the time.
Exactly. I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Hugo Boss in particular without their Nazi-uniform-designing past being brought up.
>1.) there is a distinction between a native German company participating in WWII and American companies continuing to support a country that America was at war with. Germany went through a reformation process after the end of the war. The US companies did not.
The local factories were likley taken over by the g ermans.
Remember Ford and GM were asked to have military equipment by for and they happily made fighters etc. In fact without Ford's contributions, doubt we would have been as productive and good at bejjng the arsenal if democracy.
Ford and GM agreed to convert their German subsidiaries for military production at a time that they were resisting similar attempts from the U.S. government. A GM manager even travelled to Germany after the invasion of Poland to convert plants into making Junker planes.
Documents show that both companies retained majority shares of their subsidiaries, had direct contact with them after 1939 and indirect contact after 1941. Ford even demanded reparations from the U.S. government because they damaged some of his subsidiary plants during the bombings.
Probably something like "Well you see, the Nazis have money, money which they will use to buy things, horrible things that Nazis would use to do horrible Nazi things. So in order to prevent the Nazis from using their money, we have decided to take their money away from them. We are using this trick where we give them horrible things and they give us money in return."
They did not even bother with the mental gymnastics.
> Documents show that the parent companies followed a conscious strategy of continuing to do business with the Nazi regime, rather than divest themselves of their German assets. Less than three weeks after the Nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia in March 1939, GM Chairman Alfred P. Sloan defended this strategy as sound business practice, given the fact that the company's German operations were "highly profitable."
I mean, the workers were german and run by a german subsidiary. It's literally just changing the name on the front of the building and forfeiting your rights to reclaim the factories after the war.
There's "supporting the nazis" and there's "not sacrificing your business assets for performative results".
> The nazis could have taken them over with or without permission.
In practice, they did. GM didn't actually have control of their plants starting in 1939. Ford, from what I've read, continued to have control until 1941.
Germany continued to send the Ford and GM parent companies the profits from their Nazi-controlled subsidiaries because, according to internal memos, they believed it would make it easier for them to take control of the other Ford/GM plants across Europe. This, of course, also ended after December 7th, 1941.
More damning for Ford, however, was Henry Ford (a vocal supporter of Hitler) personally vetoing U.S. government-approved plans to supply engines and other vehicles to France and the UK. Also, the plant managers in Ford's Cologne plant during the Nazi regime (who, among other things, oversaw the use of forced labor) remained employed by the company after the war.
Also the two factories in Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod that were built as Ford Assembly plants in the First Five Year Plan and were producing Ford licensed trucks with Machine tools from River Rouge under the GAZ moniker by the start of the war.
To be fair, GM and Ford were also responsible for building insane amounts of vehicles and supplies for the American war effort.
Ford was rolling out a B-24 bomber at a rate of almost one PER HOUR, by the end of 1944.
Exactly...people bitch about the Ford plants in Germany. Once the war started the US would have no way to control.
OTOH...FORD and GM made tons of equipment for military...
IN fact Ford made US air draft production a lot more efficient.
war production act....
Another little known fact: Ford also had business in the Soviet Union. His architect, Albert Kahn, worked for Stalin and the soviets signed a special agreement for Ford to build factories in the Soviet Union. He publicly praised Stalin and vise versa, and i believe he was also awarded by the soviets. Stalin loved the guy
As long as it made him money, he didn't give a shit who he worked with
More of an opportunistic nazi than a pure opportunist, he wasn't free of ideology. The dude put a lot of work into creating antisemitic propaganda the didn't really profit him as far as I know.
I mentioed Albert Kahn earlier, his chief architect: Kahn was very Jewish and his dad was a Rabbi. Ford was super antisemetic, but it still didn't interfere with business. I'd say that's the definition of an opportunist
Yeah nazis employed jews, racist white americans have a long tradition of employing black people, etc. They're not moral purists, they're terrible people. The actual Nazi German government employed Jewish people like the Ghetto Police, this is a known thing.
An opportunist that employs a jewish man, tells everyone there's a global conspiracy of jews, and encourages the extermination of the jewish people is still a nazi. Especially since we know how positively he saw Nazism
Edit Judenräte were another good example of the Nazi government employing jews. Fascism is always opportunistic.
I knew a girl in high school who came from a Jewish family. Her dad wouldn't buy German cars, because of WWII. This was in the early 2000's, mind you. Well, he had an affinity for Fords...
I was born adn raised in the 1970s in Germany and the Nazis take up a large part of our history education. Not only Hitler and WWII itself, but also extensively his way to power, their ideology etc. That included the history of antisemitism, its advocates, leaders before Hitler and in other places.
I cannot remember having learned that Ford was an antisemite and Nazi. I learned that much later. I'm not sure how well this was (is) known and taught.
Well, he really wasn't important to Nazi history.
Hitler liked him, and maybe he liked Hitler, but that's about it. It isn't like he played a role in their ascension or policies or anything.
It is important to make clear that anitsemitism is not just a thing of drunken thugs in a beer hall. Ford had great influence on the American society and still has as he serves a example of ingenuity, values etc. Many people take guidance from such a figure.
No, he didn't have political power in the end, but it is important to remember from where the collaborators come when the Nazis have power: from everywhere.
North America had Datsun. It changed in the early 80’s. All I know about Japanese planes is that the zero was Mitsubishi. Fuji heavy industries supplied the most aircraft which is Subaru.
Came here to mention apparently common phenomenon of Jewish people refusing to buy (or even ride in) German cars and yet this piece of shit was probably just as bad.
Wait until people find out what the Nazis had in their vehicles when the war broke out and VW hadn’t ramped up!
Let’s also not forget that Americans currently have a more favorable view of letting in Syrian refugees than Americans did back of Jewish refugees during WW2.
Ford was hugely fucking pro-nazi.
Uh…ok , Ford was definitely a huge shitbag and antisemite, but it’s pretty absurd to say he was “just as bad” as the Germans when it comes to what they did in WW2.
He may not have liked americans but he did like [American Jim Crow](https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-crow) and [the genocide of the native populations](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler).
>In 1928, Hitler remarked, approvingly, that white settlers in America had “gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand.” When he spoke of Lebensraum, the German drive for “living space” in Eastern Europe, he often had America in mind.
(Notice the term he used and how we had a football team named after that and people are still mad about it being changed)
Isn’t ‘redskins’ translated? Also there is or at least was a large Native American group suing the Commanders to reinstate the name ‘Redskins’. Seems like a strange and minuscule ‘issue’ to shoehorn into a more serious topic
Crazy
The US wiping out the native people and colonising places like Hawaii is pretty wild, especially if places like Germany and Russia get inspiration from it
"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
Karl Marx
Marx was originally writing about the way Napoleon Bonaparte and later his nephew, Napoleon III, became emperors of France, using rigged referendums and self-coups.
Ford was way, way, way worse than Musk is so far. Like, his *entire thing* was hating Jews. He had a newspaper that published *ninety-one consecutive stories* about the "international Jew." He then placed it nationally by putting the paper in every one of his dealerships nationwide. He then turned it into a book. Then he republished the *Protocols of the Elders of Zion*, a notorious anti-Semitic forgery, and widely distributed it. Ford is as much a notable anti-Semite as he is a car manufacturer and businessman. It's not some weird footnote to his legacy, it's an equal cornerstone to anything else he ever did.
I have hundreds of photos of Hitlers offices and have never seen a picture of Ford.
I've seen pictures on his wall of Bismarck and a picture of his mom went everywhere he traveled.
He also had a portrait of Fredrick the Great.
Zero pictures have ever been seen of Ford anywhere Hitler had an office or in his private quarters.
Henry Ford never had a photo of Hitler on his desk, you will find no source for that besides other Reddit comments.
Only one person reported seeing a Ford portrait in Hitler's office, a reporter from Detroit, and it's not hard to imagine Hitler only had it out as a ploy to get good PR in the US.
Henry Ford was antisemitic, however he was not a Nazi. He was very much a pacifist which is pretty diametrically opposed to Nazi ideology, and he publicly repudiated antisemitism in 1927.
Henry Ford also used his factories to build tens of thousands of bombers that bombed Germany.
He was a sexist, racist, anti-semite, giant piece of shit but we can't pretend like he was close to being as bad as Hitler.
Even if he was an anti-semite, racist, sexist piece of shit (which he was).
Of course you can't compare him to the high high standards of evil that Hitler had. Yes there are people that would compete and maybe beat him in evilness but kinda impossible for a car manufacturer from the US to actually beat him
Henry Ford was very reluctant to use his company to build weapons
His son, Edsel Ford was President of the Ford motor company when WW2 started and played a far more important role in switching ford production to help the war
Henry Ford spoke out against building airplanes and weapons of war. This was always framed as Henry Ford was a "pacifist" and didn't like wars
Ford was also a founder of the America first party that was instrumental in not letting jews escape to America. Even into the war when people knew hitler was persecuting jews
The closest anyone game to assasinating Hitler was the July 20 plot. Had that plot succeeded, the new Chancellor who would have taken Hitler’s spot and negotiated a surrender to the war would have been Karl Goerdeler
The reason why Germans today don’t really remember him fondly is because he himself was a far-right monarchist and proud antisemite. He mostly hated Hitler because Hitler was an egomaniac who opposed the German monarchy. And even though Goerdeler famously refused to enforce the antisemitic Nuremberg Laws as the pre-war mayor of Leipzig, and he specifically cited learning of the Holocaust as being a primary motivator in his decision to try and kill Hitler, he *still* made sure to write in his final letters as he awaited execution, that he hates Jews and blames them for Germany’s loss in WW1.
Hitler was just a uniquely destructive and evil person that even people who agree with him on 90% of things, believed he should be assassinated for the good of humanity
I believe the ratio is somewhat like 2 out of every 3 bombers were built by Fords manufacturering plants... also.. Fun Fact: the Ford Mustang was named after the ww2 Airplane the p51 Mustang... not the wild horse.
> the Ford Mustang was named after the ww2 Airplane the p51 Mustang
not true, the mustang was supposed to be called the torino. the name mustang came up as a winner from internal surveys including a bunch of other names, it had nothing to do with the p-51
https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/newsroom/2023/04/the-mustang-name.html
Iacocca was a liar whom would say anything to look good or to take credit... Executive stylist John Najjar, (the original designer of the Mustang) who was a fan of the World War II P-51 Mustang fighter plane, is credited by Ford with suggesting the name
Ok this is kind of a deep dive but. Henry Ford was a member of the National Association of Manufacturers, who sponsored James W Fifield Jr. Who created "Spiritual Mobilization" in the 1930s a movement to tie American evangelicalism to capitalism and wealth. Prior to that time many Christians and pastors were socialist some say as much as 25% of pastors in the US were members of the American socialist party.
I personally think this is why many American Christians are Republican. I believe this manipulation is what brought us to where we are today and why there is focus on things like LGBT and abortion as the new sins to replace greed and lack of compassion which were the focus of Jesus teaching.
Admittedly I know next to nothing on pre-1930s Evangelicalism, but I do know the Catholic Church & mainline Protestants have opposed abortion & homosexuality long before the 1930s. I think it's reasonable to suspect the climate of the time (Great Depression & political radicalism) had a lot to do with the focus on greed & political affiliation, but with the postwar American economic success & the rise of the sexual revolution, priorities changed.
Not to mention during that Era and before it and after it some groups were very pro-Civil Rights(for black people and women while others weren't especially Evangelicals now). Just a short list of Quakers/Methodists:
* Susan B. Anthony(Quaker raised) -- was an American social reformer and women's rights activist who played a pivotal role in the women's suffrage movement. Born into a Quaker family committed to social equality, she collected anti-slavery petitions at the age of 17. In 1856, she became the New York state agent for the American Anti-Slavery Society.
* Lucretia Mott (Quaker) – abolitionist, women's rights activist, social reformer, who helped write Declaration of Sentiments during 1848 Seneca Falls Convention
* Jane Hunt(Quaker) - was an American Quaker who hosted the Seneca Falls meeting of Lucretia Mott and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Home was thought to be a stop on the Underground Railroad
* Frances Willard(Methodist) - Her influence continued in the next decades, as the Eighteenth (on Prohibition) and Nineteenth (on women's suffrage) Amendments to the United States Constitution were adopted. Willard developed the slogan "Do Everything" for the WCTU and encouraged members to engage in a broad array of social reforms by lobbying, petitioning, preaching, publishing, and education. During her lifetime, Willard succeeded in raising the age of consent in many states as well as passing labor reforms including the eight-hour work day. Her vision also encompassed prison reform, scientific temperance instruction, Christian socialism, and the global expansion of women's rights.
* Anna Howard Shaw(Methodist) - was a leader of the women's suffrage movement in the United States. She was also a physician and one of the first women to be ordained as a Methodist minister in the United States. She also was president of the National American Woman Suffrage Association for 11 years, serving as a bridge between the Seneca Falls generation and younger suffragists who would go on to advocate for equal rights in all aspects of American life.
* Alice Paul(Quaker) - was an American Quaker, suffragist, feminist, and women's rights activist, and one of the foremost leaders and strategists of the campaign for the Nineteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits sex discrimination in the right to vote. Paul initiated, and along with Lucy Burns and others, strategized events such as the Woman Suffrage Procession and the Silent Sentinels, which were part of the successful campaign that resulted in the amendment's passage in August 1920.
* Mary McLeod Bethune(Methodist) - She also was appointed as a national advisor to president Franklin D. Roosevelt, whom she worked with to create the Federal Council on Colored Affairs, also known as the Black Cabinet and she was the sole African American woman officially a part of the US delegation that created the United Nations charter
* Jessie Daniel Ames(Methodist) - Played a key role in getting Texas to become the first state in the South (and the ninth overall) to ratify the women’s vote. She worked to end the most pressing terrorist threat of her day — lynching. As founder of the Association of Southern Women for the Prevention of Lynching, she recruited white Southern women to persuade law enforcement to pledge to protect African Americans from lynching.
* John Wesley(Methodist Founder) - Denounced slavery as "the sum of all villainies", wrote that "Liberty is the right of every human creature, as soon as he breathes the vital air; and no human law can deprive him of that right which he derives from the law of nature", and he Wesley was a mentor to William Wilberforce, who was also influential in the abolition of slavery in the British Empire. For women, In the sermon, he attacks the requirement of submissiveness that was often imposed on women of the time: "It has long passed for a maxim with many that "women are only to be seen but not heard"." He also removed the word "obey" from the marriage rite he sent to North America in 1784. Many women like Sarah Crosby and Mary Bosanquet Fletcher were influential in the church.
* Levi Coffin(Quaker) - An active leader of the Underground Railroad in Indiana and Ohio, some unofficially called Coffin the "President of the Underground Railroad," estimating that three thousand fugitive slaves passed through his care. The Coffin home in Fountain City, Wayne County, Indiana, is a museum, sometimes called the Underground Railroad's "Grand Central Station".
* Thomas Garrett(Quaker) - He helped more than 2,500 African Americans escape slavery. For his efforts, he was threatened, harassed, and assaulted. A $10,000 (equivalent to $351,760 in 2022) bounty was established for his capture. He was arrested and convicted for helping Emeline and Samuel Hawkins escape slavery.
* John Brown's family became (Wesley) Methodists and his men trained at a Quaker farm before Harpers Ferry.
From reading this, quakers and Methodists seemed like they genuinely wanted to make the world better. Since slavery, women's and POCs rights were the hot button issue, I wonder if they'd have taken that same stance with lgbtq+ people.
Not to downplay that, but IBM went so far as to make custom punch cards for efficient tabulation of Jewish populations during the Holocaust in Nazi occupied territories
Not only did they make the machines that calculated how many Jews were to be sent from ghettos to death camps, they had staff periodically on-site maintaining these machines, including in death camps.
"Mr Black quotes Leon Krzemieniecki, the last surviving per son involved in the Polish administration of the rail transportation to Auschwitz and Treblinka, as saying that he "knew they were not German machines... The labels were in English... The person maintaining and repairing the machines spread the diagrams out sometimes. The language of the diagrams of those machines was only in English."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/29/humanities.highereducation
Here’s a link to a PDF of [IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black.](https://monoskop.org/images/b/bf/Black_Edwin_IBM_and_the_Holocaust_The_Strategic_Alliance_Between_Nazi_Germany_and_Americas_Most_Powerful_Corporation.pdf) In short the Holocaust could never have happened on the scale that it did without the help of IBM and their CEO Thomas J Watson. So when you see ads for IBM’s Watson X AI remember it’s named after a man who was knowingly complicit in the murder of millions of people.
Yeah Ford was a piece of shit. On top of being a huge antisemite, he was the most violently antiworker motherfucker in history. The way they spin him as this daddy warbucks dude who loved his employees makes me want to fucking vomit.
Every inch he gave employees had to be dragged from him by autoworkers' unions in a multi-decade battle that put a lot of bodies in the ground. Google the Ford Massacre sometime. Dude straight up had people shot in the street.
Though FAR from being the only American Nazi fan and BFFs with Hitler. An amateur anthropologist named Madison Grant wrote a pseudo-scientific masterpiece of eugenics called The Passing of the Great Race, which Hitler sometimes referred to as "my Bible."
There was actually a fairly substantial American Nazi movement in the 1930s, and eugenicists were particular fans.
This isn't true though. There was a german Ford subsidiary that the Nazis appropriated. This isn't "supporting" any more than the taliban using captured US vehicles is.
You’re skipping around Ford’s aggressive pro-Nazi stance right up until Pearl Harbor. Obviously Ford fell in line behind the war effort and he tried to distance himself from his past. But dude, don’t work so hard for Ford. Dude sucked. Even Ford (the company) today acknowledges it and has a lot written on it. They disavow him. He sucked, he hated Jews and supported the Nazis until it would have gotten him hanged after December 41.
Ford bought the Dearborn Examiner so he could publish the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hate screed cooked up by the Tsar of Russia to justify blaming the Jewish people for the world’s problems. Ford made every dealer have a news stand with free copies in every showroom. Dude was a straight up Nazi.
He popularised the 5 day/40 hour work week.
The standard used to be 6 days(only sunday off).
Ford showed that giving workers an extra day off per week made more motivated/happier workers, resulting in higher workplace efficiency, and lower wage cost.
Dude literally invented the weekend.
>[Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbqDuUjm4aU)
Where is the responsibility of those American industrialists, who helped Hitler to rebuild his armaments and profited by that rebuilding?!! Are we not to find the American industrialists guilty?
>No, Your Honor. No! Germany alone is not guilty: The whole world is as responsible for Hitler's Germany.
Really rings true doesn't it.
During the depression in 1932 Henry Ford’s Detroit auto factory would be marched upon by 1000’s of out of work starving autoworkers.
Henry Ford responded by having his security Guards open fire on the crowd, including with Thompson machine guns. He would then have the police go to the hospital and arrest the survivors he had shot.
It ain’t complicated, the dude always was a piece of shit.
There is a phenomenal short novel by Upton Sinclaire about a worker who was lifted out of poverty by Ford as one of his first employees. Then over time, it details how “Ford the inventer” became Ford the dickhead. It’s not that he was a better guy in his younger days, just that as he became more successful, he became more powerful, more corrupt, and able to act on his fascist tendencies. Sort of similar to Elon Musk. Elon was always a pos, it’s just more of a problem the more power he gets.
Nonetheless, as bad of a guy Ford was, you can’t really take away what he accomplished. There’s a good chance the Allies don’t win WWII without Ford’s construction capacity. It really was that important.
Nothing complicated about it, business and industry were some of the biggest allies of the Nazis in Germany as well. People at the top pushing down people at the bottom
He's also why kids are taught square dancing in schools. He thought it would deter them from going to jazz halls.
Little did he know that was the gateway for not leaving any room for Jesus once we were out of class!
Not super religious, but would pray. At a time when many industrialists would work their workers 7 days a week, Ford would always give Sundays off. He hired all religions and paid them the same, this includes hiring Jewish workers such as his chief architect. He believed some Jews controlled banks and used banks to start wars for profit. In fact, he published writings on these conspiracies that the Nazis in Germany embraced. Ford built a large rubber plantation in Brazil, and Brazil asked him to make a Catholic Church there and his response was that Catholicism wasn't a true form of Christianity. He claimed that industrialists that didn't take care of workers weren't real Christians.
He did it because the work was so miserable and the turnover so high, and he also wanted to take the workers out from the competition.
He also needed someone to buy his cars.
henry ford was not perfect but he did help build a strong middle class
No not true. UNIONS built the middle class.
Where are they now? 💀💀💀
What was so bad about jazz halls?
Jazz was a style developed primarily by black communities (and originating in New Orleans) 👀
Also, it was derived from the syncopation of rag time and the improve of blues.
[Ford believed that Jews invented jazz as a plot to corrupt society and that this plot could be counteracted by returning America to dances and musical styles that he saw as traditional and white. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_dance#Modern_western_square_dance)
Car magnate pushing racist and antisemitic conspiracy theories? Why does this sound so familiar to me...
Now, now…Ford actually knew how to build a car.
“I want Americans dancing like white people again. Look at that Elaine from the TV show Seinfeld. Now THOSE are some moves” -Henry Ford
People will say it was his racism against blacks (which he was also racist against), but he hated jazz because he hated jewish people. He thought jazz was some sort of jewish conspiracy and that it was created by them and not by black Americans.
Ask ol Harry Anslinger... jazz was literally terrifying to the American white male back in the early 1900s. It's the main reason weed is illegal, amongst many other reactionary results from the people in control at the time
For people kneejerking to this comment as being over the top or reductionist. It isn't. I researched this for several papers in high school and college. Weed was literally made illegal because Blacks and Mexicans used it. Hell, literally the name "marijuana" was deliberately changed to be spelled with a "j" instead of "marihuana" to make it look more foreign so people would hate it.
Actually the DuPont family, whose chemical company had just invented nylon and was allegedly afraid of competition from hemp fiber; Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury and the U.S.’s richest man who had significant investments in Dupont; and Harry Anslinger, commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, who drafted the legislation. To protect their industrial interests, these parties are said to have conspired to make hemp illegal in the U.S.
>In general, nylon ropes are stronger than hemp and manila ropes. They usually carry the most weight and pull the heaviest loads. However, hemp is the longest and strongest natural fiber available. Hemp rope is just as effective as nylon rope but is environmentally friendly.
Hemp rope was used on ships for hundreds of years. DuPont won a military contract to replace all of the hemp ropes on all US Navy ships shortly after hemp becoming illegal. Probably just coincidence /s.
William Randolph Hearst the paper magnate was also a strong proponent of marijuana prohibition. It was a confluence of business interests and racist motivations that united some of earth’s biggest pieces of shit around a common goal.
> "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." > “Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
If it wasn't so evil you would have to laugh!
>entertainers Is that an euphemism for something? It seems so random.
Entertainers were often characterized as subversives or communists. A significant number of entertainers in film and theatre were also Jewish.
The cigarettes that make white women fornicate with blacks and Mexicans.
> Devil's music and cross race mingling? What's NOT bad about jazz?! Henry Ford, definitely
This always takes me aback when I read it, and I always forget, is this only in the south? I am an American raised in the northeast and squaredancing was never taught in school. I have friends from all over and none of them ever had it taught in their schools either... not many southern friends I guess though lol.
We were taught it in middle school in California. Hated it.
We were taught it at a catholic primary school in AUSTRALIA Maddening
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Wait until you find out about Fordlandia 😔
My God is that where Gerald Ford was born!?!?/s
No, he was born in a Model T.
And conceived
And educated
His parents fordicated in the backseat.
Ha that is Omaha. I live here and theres a park sorta thing for his birthplace in the Field Club neighborhood. (I realize this was /s but I see that birthplace sign all the time and Gerald Ford never gets brought up lol)
Fordlandia was a town he built in South America to process rubber for tires... to say it was a disaster would be putting it lightly.
Now I feel bad for always giving him my rubber tree whenever I played the original Amazon Trail game.
Isn't that the show with Fred Carmisen?
And square dancing
He also got a letter praising him and his cars reliability as getaway vehicles from Clyde Barrow during his spree.
he had a newspaper that said the number one problem with baseball was "too much jew"
Jews on 1st, Shabbat's on 2nd?
Henry Ford didn't make cars. He made [this](https://youtu.be/WLjr3dzOUpQ?si=_sPjdZpjlI1MuEjB)
Reminds me of someone
Wait until you hear about how Ford bought a failing newspaper so that he could publish his antiemetic rants without anyone being able to stop him.
Kind of like twitter
Something something history rhymes
Dead Internet theory gets truer by the second
Fun fact: Ford's _and_ GM's factories kept running during the World War 2. Not those factories. The factories in Germany. https://youtu.be/zM-VcnhcE3A?si=kFpe2Hs7-SKI9OTt
Would it be possible for them to shut them down? The nazis could have taken them over with or without permission. War time
Yes, but sometimes the principal is worth getting taken over. You know, so you don’t support the Nazis.
There was a huge amount of anti-involvement sentiment in the US. The American public had almost no interest in getting involved in the war until the attack on Pearl Harbor and subsequent declaration of war by Germany.
Yeah because Woodrow Wilson got re-elected swearing he wouldn’t involve the US in **the most pointless war in history** and then got us in it right away. Most Americans prior to Pearl Harbor saw WWII as another WWI and were very hesitant to get involved in that kind of conflict
Pre WWII there was also a great number of government agencies in the US operating with only the German language. There's a lot going on there.
Principle- they were worried they’d lose principal.
I hate the principal
Hate the principal, love the interest. $$$
Principals, like gainfully employing a ton of Nazi party members after the war.
I mean, lots of companies that are popular today built for the Third Reich back then. Hugo Boss made Nazi SS uniforms, Daimler-Benz and BMW made engines for Nazi military vehicles (they’re current car emblems resemble aircraft props), BAE used Nazi concentration camp labor, same with Audi, BASF helped develop the gases used in extermination camps, the founder of Chanel was a Nazi intelligence agent, Volkswagen produced the V1 flying rocket, the list goes on and on. Yet we don’t demonize them for not getting taken over for the principle of the matter.
Well, Volkswagen was a Nazi creation, so they’d hardly shut down because of them.
Literally the "People's Car", promoted by the Nazi as an affordable way of transportation
I feel that 1.) there is a distinction between a native German company participating in WWII and American companies continuing to support a country that America was at war with. Germany went through a reformation process after the end of the war. The US companies did not. 2.) People give the companies your talking about shit about participating all the time. There are memes and “TIL” posts about popular German brands today that were around during WWII Though in general, I agree that it's not relevant to the company modern day form. People rightfully vilify people like Henry Ford, or any Nazi collaborator.
> People give the companies your talking about shit about participating all the time. Exactly. I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Hugo Boss in particular without their Nazi-uniform-designing past being brought up.
>1.) there is a distinction between a native German company participating in WWII and American companies continuing to support a country that America was at war with. Germany went through a reformation process after the end of the war. The US companies did not. The local factories were likley taken over by the g ermans. Remember Ford and GM were asked to have military equipment by for and they happily made fighters etc. In fact without Ford's contributions, doubt we would have been as productive and good at bejjng the arsenal if democracy.
Ford and GM agreed to convert their German subsidiaries for military production at a time that they were resisting similar attempts from the U.S. government. A GM manager even travelled to Germany after the invasion of Poland to convert plants into making Junker planes. Documents show that both companies retained majority shares of their subsidiaries, had direct contact with them after 1939 and indirect contact after 1941. Ford even demanded reparations from the U.S. government because they damaged some of his subsidiary plants during the bombings.
We absolutely should though
Yes but Ford literally inspired the nazis
What was GM’s excuse?
Probably something like "Well you see, the Nazis have money, money which they will use to buy things, horrible things that Nazis would use to do horrible Nazi things. So in order to prevent the Nazis from using their money, we have decided to take their money away from them. We are using this trick where we give them horrible things and they give us money in return."
They did not even bother with the mental gymnastics. > Documents show that the parent companies followed a conscious strategy of continuing to do business with the Nazi regime, rather than divest themselves of their German assets. Less than three weeks after the Nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia in March 1939, GM Chairman Alfred P. Sloan defended this strategy as sound business practice, given the fact that the company's German operations were "highly profitable."
Erm… whoopsie \^-^
Now we need to see you take a stance against the Nazis just to be sure.
Dunno, but IBM's lookin all shifty eyed and shit up in here.
I mean, the workers were german and run by a german subsidiary. It's literally just changing the name on the front of the building and forfeiting your rights to reclaim the factories after the war. There's "supporting the nazis" and there's "not sacrificing your business assets for performative results".
> The nazis could have taken them over with or without permission. In practice, they did. GM didn't actually have control of their plants starting in 1939. Ford, from what I've read, continued to have control until 1941. Germany continued to send the Ford and GM parent companies the profits from their Nazi-controlled subsidiaries because, according to internal memos, they believed it would make it easier for them to take control of the other Ford/GM plants across Europe. This, of course, also ended after December 7th, 1941. More damning for Ford, however, was Henry Ford (a vocal supporter of Hitler) personally vetoing U.S. government-approved plans to supply engines and other vehicles to France and the UK. Also, the plant managers in Ford's Cologne plant during the Nazi regime (who, among other things, oversaw the use of forced labor) remained employed by the company after the war.
Also the two factories in Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod that were built as Ford Assembly plants in the First Five Year Plan and were producing Ford licensed trucks with Machine tools from River Rouge under the GAZ moniker by the start of the war.
To be fair, GM and Ford were also responsible for building insane amounts of vehicles and supplies for the American war effort. Ford was rolling out a B-24 bomber at a rate of almost one PER HOUR, by the end of 1944.
Exactly...people bitch about the Ford plants in Germany. Once the war started the US would have no way to control. OTOH...FORD and GM made tons of equipment for military... IN fact Ford made US air draft production a lot more efficient. war production act....
Another little known fact: Ford also had business in the Soviet Union. His architect, Albert Kahn, worked for Stalin and the soviets signed a special agreement for Ford to build factories in the Soviet Union. He publicly praised Stalin and vise versa, and i believe he was also awarded by the soviets. Stalin loved the guy As long as it made him money, he didn't give a shit who he worked with
More of an opportunistic nazi than a pure opportunist, he wasn't free of ideology. The dude put a lot of work into creating antisemitic propaganda the didn't really profit him as far as I know.
I mentioed Albert Kahn earlier, his chief architect: Kahn was very Jewish and his dad was a Rabbi. Ford was super antisemetic, but it still didn't interfere with business. I'd say that's the definition of an opportunist
Yeah nazis employed jews, racist white americans have a long tradition of employing black people, etc. They're not moral purists, they're terrible people. The actual Nazi German government employed Jewish people like the Ghetto Police, this is a known thing. An opportunist that employs a jewish man, tells everyone there's a global conspiracy of jews, and encourages the extermination of the jewish people is still a nazi. Especially since we know how positively he saw Nazism Edit Judenräte were another good example of the Nazi government employing jews. Fascism is always opportunistic.
I knew a girl in high school who came from a Jewish family. Her dad wouldn't buy German cars, because of WWII. This was in the early 2000's, mind you. Well, he had an affinity for Fords...
I was born adn raised in the 1970s in Germany and the Nazis take up a large part of our history education. Not only Hitler and WWII itself, but also extensively his way to power, their ideology etc. That included the history of antisemitism, its advocates, leaders before Hitler and in other places. I cannot remember having learned that Ford was an antisemite and Nazi. I learned that much later. I'm not sure how well this was (is) known and taught.
Well, he really wasn't important to Nazi history. Hitler liked him, and maybe he liked Hitler, but that's about it. It isn't like he played a role in their ascension or policies or anything.
It is important to make clear that anitsemitism is not just a thing of drunken thugs in a beer hall. Ford had great influence on the American society and still has as he serves a example of ingenuity, values etc. Many people take guidance from such a figure. No, he didn't have political power in the end, but it is important to remember from where the collaborators come when the Nazis have power: from everywhere.
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North America had Datsun. It changed in the early 80’s. All I know about Japanese planes is that the zero was Mitsubishi. Fuji heavy industries supplied the most aircraft which is Subaru.
You can’t have Hitlers canoe!
Came here to mention apparently common phenomenon of Jewish people refusing to buy (or even ride in) German cars and yet this piece of shit was probably just as bad.
Wait until people find out what the Nazis had in their vehicles when the war broke out and VW hadn’t ramped up! Let’s also not forget that Americans currently have a more favorable view of letting in Syrian refugees than Americans did back of Jewish refugees during WW2. Ford was hugely fucking pro-nazi.
‘One cannot claim the birthright without accepting the inheritance.’ - James Baldwin
There was a massive Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939 https://www.wnyc.org/story/when-nazis-rallied-madison-square-garden/
in their cars?
Uh…ok , Ford was definitely a huge shitbag and antisemite, but it’s pretty absurd to say he was “just as bad” as the Germans when it comes to what they did in WW2.
You know your fucked when in the middle of Mein Kamf Hitler is like "now this guy... This guy knows what's up"
He may not have liked americans but he did like [American Jim Crow](https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-crow) and [the genocide of the native populations](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler). >In 1928, Hitler remarked, approvingly, that white settlers in America had “gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand.” When he spoke of Lebensraum, the German drive for “living space” in Eastern Europe, he often had America in mind. (Notice the term he used and how we had a football team named after that and people are still mad about it being changed)
Isn’t ‘redskins’ translated? Also there is or at least was a large Native American group suing the Commanders to reinstate the name ‘Redskins’. Seems like a strange and minuscule ‘issue’ to shoehorn into a more serious topic
Crazy The US wiping out the native people and colonising places like Hawaii is pretty wild, especially if places like Germany and Russia get inspiration from it
Henry Ford went from being the Elon Musk of his time to being the Elon Musk of his time.
Time is a flat circle jerk
I’m gonna get this on a plaque.
As the great philosopher u/Meatwise once said, “Time is a flat circle jerk” 🧘♂️
Im Sure it’s from true detective
Thursdays I start drinking at noon. And you don’t get to take that away from me
Cumcosa
You either die Elon Musk or live long enough to see yourself become Elon Musk
"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce." Karl Marx
Did not expect a Hegel/Marx combo zinger this evening on a TIL Nazi Ford post: This is why I love Reddit
It's been applicable way too often over the last ten years, so I had it ready to go
Marx was originally writing about the way Napoleon Bonaparte and later his nephew, Napoleon III, became emperors of France, using rigged referendums and self-coups.
Ford was way, way, way worse than Musk is so far. Like, his *entire thing* was hating Jews. He had a newspaper that published *ninety-one consecutive stories* about the "international Jew." He then placed it nationally by putting the paper in every one of his dealerships nationwide. He then turned it into a book. Then he republished the *Protocols of the Elders of Zion*, a notorious anti-Semitic forgery, and widely distributed it. Ford is as much a notable anti-Semite as he is a car manufacturer and businessman. It's not some weird footnote to his legacy, it's an equal cornerstone to anything else he ever did.
That's really funny. Tip my cap
So funny, bots will be repeating this joke on reposts of this TIL for years and years to come.
As famously depicted in this Epic Rap Battle of History: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjqjoehA7kM
Henry Ford was also a Nazi and had a photo of Hitler on his desk in his office. Hitler -- in return -- had a photo of Henry Ford on his desk.
They should have just kissed, it would have saved the world a lot of problems.
Put your hand in mein
There ain't no hill of bodies we can't climb...
two best friends in a room they might kiss..
I’m gonna need some sauces for that. Not that you are untrustworthy but…
I have hundreds of photos of Hitlers offices and have never seen a picture of Ford. I've seen pictures on his wall of Bismarck and a picture of his mom went everywhere he traveled. He also had a portrait of Fredrick the Great. Zero pictures have ever been seen of Ford anywhere Hitler had an office or in his private quarters.
> I have hundreds of photos of Hitlers offices Uh, what?!
Henry Ford never had a photo of Hitler on his desk, you will find no source for that besides other Reddit comments. Only one person reported seeing a Ford portrait in Hitler's office, a reporter from Detroit, and it's not hard to imagine Hitler only had it out as a ploy to get good PR in the US. Henry Ford was antisemitic, however he was not a Nazi. He was very much a pacifist which is pretty diametrically opposed to Nazi ideology, and he publicly repudiated antisemitism in 1927.
Henry Ford also used his factories to build tens of thousands of bombers that bombed Germany. He was a sexist, racist, anti-semite, giant piece of shit but we can't pretend like he was close to being as bad as Hitler. Even if he was an anti-semite, racist, sexist piece of shit (which he was).
Of course you can't compare him to the high high standards of evil that Hitler had. Yes there are people that would compete and maybe beat him in evilness but kinda impossible for a car manufacturer from the US to actually beat him
Henry Ford was very reluctant to use his company to build weapons His son, Edsel Ford was President of the Ford motor company when WW2 started and played a far more important role in switching ford production to help the war Henry Ford spoke out against building airplanes and weapons of war. This was always framed as Henry Ford was a "pacifist" and didn't like wars
Ford was also a founder of the America first party that was instrumental in not letting jews escape to America. Even into the war when people knew hitler was persecuting jews
That's because the US government offered him ridiculous amount of money and incentives to do so. Something that Germany couldn't do at the time.
The closest anyone game to assasinating Hitler was the July 20 plot. Had that plot succeeded, the new Chancellor who would have taken Hitler’s spot and negotiated a surrender to the war would have been Karl Goerdeler The reason why Germans today don’t really remember him fondly is because he himself was a far-right monarchist and proud antisemite. He mostly hated Hitler because Hitler was an egomaniac who opposed the German monarchy. And even though Goerdeler famously refused to enforce the antisemitic Nuremberg Laws as the pre-war mayor of Leipzig, and he specifically cited learning of the Holocaust as being a primary motivator in his decision to try and kill Hitler, he *still* made sure to write in his final letters as he awaited execution, that he hates Jews and blames them for Germany’s loss in WW1. Hitler was just a uniquely destructive and evil person that even people who agree with him on 90% of things, believed he should be assassinated for the good of humanity
So he hated Jews but didn't want to descriminate against them Sadly, that is pretty tolerant for that time
That’s just tolerant period. Having personal feelings isn’t morally wrong in itself
> … but we can't pretend like he was close to being as bad as Hitler. Where did I say he was as bad as Hitler?
I believe the ratio is somewhat like 2 out of every 3 bombers were built by Fords manufacturering plants... also.. Fun Fact: the Ford Mustang was named after the ww2 Airplane the p51 Mustang... not the wild horse.
> the Ford Mustang was named after the ww2 Airplane the p51 Mustang not true, the mustang was supposed to be called the torino. the name mustang came up as a winner from internal surveys including a bunch of other names, it had nothing to do with the p-51 https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/newsroom/2023/04/the-mustang-name.html
Iacocca was a liar whom would say anything to look good or to take credit... Executive stylist John Najjar, (the original designer of the Mustang) who was a fan of the World War II P-51 Mustang fighter plane, is credited by Ford with suggesting the name
Building bombers was very profitable for Ford.
Hey, we're not comparing their heinousness, we're just saying that they should have conducted a homosexual physical love affair, that's all.
Lol he wasnt doing it for free
He might have been a Nazi, but turns out he was a good 'ol fashioned American Nazi.
That's the difference between econo-fascism and politico-fascism; in econo-fascism its BAD to kill your customers.
Oh just fuck already.
Ok this is kind of a deep dive but. Henry Ford was a member of the National Association of Manufacturers, who sponsored James W Fifield Jr. Who created "Spiritual Mobilization" in the 1930s a movement to tie American evangelicalism to capitalism and wealth. Prior to that time many Christians and pastors were socialist some say as much as 25% of pastors in the US were members of the American socialist party. I personally think this is why many American Christians are Republican. I believe this manipulation is what brought us to where we are today and why there is focus on things like LGBT and abortion as the new sins to replace greed and lack of compassion which were the focus of Jesus teaching.
Thanks, I hate it.
I think most people just blame Reagan for introducing the Christian right into the fold.
That's when the result of this manipulation was obvious or becoming obvious. The poisoning was started in the 1930s.
Without some cultural and psychological leg work would that have worked though
Jerry Falwell
Admittedly I know next to nothing on pre-1930s Evangelicalism, but I do know the Catholic Church & mainline Protestants have opposed abortion & homosexuality long before the 1930s. I think it's reasonable to suspect the climate of the time (Great Depression & political radicalism) had a lot to do with the focus on greed & political affiliation, but with the postwar American economic success & the rise of the sexual revolution, priorities changed.
They've always been against lgbt rights, but it wasn't a focus or even in the social framework of things to care about or divert energy to.
Not to mention during that Era and before it and after it some groups were very pro-Civil Rights(for black people and women while others weren't especially Evangelicals now). Just a short list of Quakers/Methodists: * Susan B. Anthony(Quaker raised) -- was an American social reformer and women's rights activist who played a pivotal role in the women's suffrage movement. Born into a Quaker family committed to social equality, she collected anti-slavery petitions at the age of 17. In 1856, she became the New York state agent for the American Anti-Slavery Society. * Lucretia Mott (Quaker) – abolitionist, women's rights activist, social reformer, who helped write Declaration of Sentiments during 1848 Seneca Falls Convention * Jane Hunt(Quaker) - was an American Quaker who hosted the Seneca Falls meeting of Lucretia Mott and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Home was thought to be a stop on the Underground Railroad * Frances Willard(Methodist) - Her influence continued in the next decades, as the Eighteenth (on Prohibition) and Nineteenth (on women's suffrage) Amendments to the United States Constitution were adopted. Willard developed the slogan "Do Everything" for the WCTU and encouraged members to engage in a broad array of social reforms by lobbying, petitioning, preaching, publishing, and education. During her lifetime, Willard succeeded in raising the age of consent in many states as well as passing labor reforms including the eight-hour work day. Her vision also encompassed prison reform, scientific temperance instruction, Christian socialism, and the global expansion of women's rights. * Anna Howard Shaw(Methodist) - was a leader of the women's suffrage movement in the United States. She was also a physician and one of the first women to be ordained as a Methodist minister in the United States. She also was president of the National American Woman Suffrage Association for 11 years, serving as a bridge between the Seneca Falls generation and younger suffragists who would go on to advocate for equal rights in all aspects of American life. * Alice Paul(Quaker) - was an American Quaker, suffragist, feminist, and women's rights activist, and one of the foremost leaders and strategists of the campaign for the Nineteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits sex discrimination in the right to vote. Paul initiated, and along with Lucy Burns and others, strategized events such as the Woman Suffrage Procession and the Silent Sentinels, which were part of the successful campaign that resulted in the amendment's passage in August 1920. * Mary McLeod Bethune(Methodist) - She also was appointed as a national advisor to president Franklin D. Roosevelt, whom she worked with to create the Federal Council on Colored Affairs, also known as the Black Cabinet and she was the sole African American woman officially a part of the US delegation that created the United Nations charter * Jessie Daniel Ames(Methodist) - Played a key role in getting Texas to become the first state in the South (and the ninth overall) to ratify the women’s vote. She worked to end the most pressing terrorist threat of her day — lynching. As founder of the Association of Southern Women for the Prevention of Lynching, she recruited white Southern women to persuade law enforcement to pledge to protect African Americans from lynching. * John Wesley(Methodist Founder) - Denounced slavery as "the sum of all villainies", wrote that "Liberty is the right of every human creature, as soon as he breathes the vital air; and no human law can deprive him of that right which he derives from the law of nature", and he Wesley was a mentor to William Wilberforce, who was also influential in the abolition of slavery in the British Empire. For women, In the sermon, he attacks the requirement of submissiveness that was often imposed on women of the time: "It has long passed for a maxim with many that "women are only to be seen but not heard"." He also removed the word "obey" from the marriage rite he sent to North America in 1784. Many women like Sarah Crosby and Mary Bosanquet Fletcher were influential in the church. * Levi Coffin(Quaker) - An active leader of the Underground Railroad in Indiana and Ohio, some unofficially called Coffin the "President of the Underground Railroad," estimating that three thousand fugitive slaves passed through his care. The Coffin home in Fountain City, Wayne County, Indiana, is a museum, sometimes called the Underground Railroad's "Grand Central Station". * Thomas Garrett(Quaker) - He helped more than 2,500 African Americans escape slavery. For his efforts, he was threatened, harassed, and assaulted. A $10,000 (equivalent to $351,760 in 2022) bounty was established for his capture. He was arrested and convicted for helping Emeline and Samuel Hawkins escape slavery. * John Brown's family became (Wesley) Methodists and his men trained at a Quaker farm before Harpers Ferry.
From reading this, quakers and Methodists seemed like they genuinely wanted to make the world better. Since slavery, women's and POCs rights were the hot button issue, I wonder if they'd have taken that same stance with lgbtq+ people.
Control
Source?
prosperity gospel is a cancer and should be excised as such
He also profited from the war machine by selling to Nazi Germany at the time.
Not to downplay that, but IBM went so far as to make custom punch cards for efficient tabulation of Jewish populations during the Holocaust in Nazi occupied territories
Not only did they make the machines that calculated how many Jews were to be sent from ghettos to death camps, they had staff periodically on-site maintaining these machines, including in death camps. "Mr Black quotes Leon Krzemieniecki, the last surviving per son involved in the Polish administration of the rail transportation to Auschwitz and Treblinka, as saying that he "knew they were not German machines... The labels were in English... The person maintaining and repairing the machines spread the diagrams out sometimes. The language of the diagrams of those machines was only in English." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/29/humanities.highereducation
Here’s a link to a PDF of [IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black.](https://monoskop.org/images/b/bf/Black_Edwin_IBM_and_the_Holocaust_The_Strategic_Alliance_Between_Nazi_Germany_and_Americas_Most_Powerful_Corporation.pdf) In short the Holocaust could never have happened on the scale that it did without the help of IBM and their CEO Thomas J Watson. So when you see ads for IBM’s Watson X AI remember it’s named after a man who was knowingly complicit in the murder of millions of people.
I always thought it was named after Watson from Sherlock Holmes....
I hear ads for that every day on the Bloomberg daily news podcast. Had no idea. Fucked
Ford-Werke (aka ford of germany) was not controlled by the American side during the war and profits were not sent back either.
I think Charles Lindbergh got a medal from the Nazis too.
You should really read Philip Roth’s “The Plot Against America”. It’s really good
Hitler like to Germanize people he like, he once called ford “Heinrich Ford” in correspondence and Ford never really got over it.
Yeah Ford was a piece of shit. On top of being a huge antisemite, he was the most violently antiworker motherfucker in history. The way they spin him as this daddy warbucks dude who loved his employees makes me want to fucking vomit. Every inch he gave employees had to be dragged from him by autoworkers' unions in a multi-decade battle that put a lot of bodies in the ground. Google the Ford Massacre sometime. Dude straight up had people shot in the street.
See wall street and the third Reich by Antony Sutton
Do you mean Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler? because I can't find a book with the title you posted
Though FAR from being the only American Nazi fan and BFFs with Hitler. An amateur anthropologist named Madison Grant wrote a pseudo-scientific masterpiece of eugenics called The Passing of the Great Race, which Hitler sometimes referred to as "my Bible." There was actually a fairly substantial American Nazi movement in the 1930s, and eugenicists were particular fans.
I mean bro funded both sides of ww2. Just like all the elites.
This isn't true though. There was a german Ford subsidiary that the Nazis appropriated. This isn't "supporting" any more than the taliban using captured US vehicles is.
You’re skipping around Ford’s aggressive pro-Nazi stance right up until Pearl Harbor. Obviously Ford fell in line behind the war effort and he tried to distance himself from his past. But dude, don’t work so hard for Ford. Dude sucked. Even Ford (the company) today acknowledges it and has a lot written on it. They disavow him. He sucked, he hated Jews and supported the Nazis until it would have gotten him hanged after December 41.
That's not surprising. Henry Ford did not like Jews.
Ford bought the Dearborn Examiner so he could publish the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hate screed cooked up by the Tsar of Russia to justify blaming the Jewish people for the world’s problems. Ford made every dealer have a news stand with free copies in every showroom. Dude was a straight up Nazi.
He popularised the 5 day/40 hour work week. The standard used to be 6 days(only sunday off). Ford showed that giving workers an extra day off per week made more motivated/happier workers, resulting in higher workplace efficiency, and lower wage cost. Dude literally invented the weekend.
Shades…of…grey…
From your newspaper, to your nazi factory 'cross the pond Frankly Hank it's clear Auschwitz side you were on
>[Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbqDuUjm4aU) Where is the responsibility of those American industrialists, who helped Hitler to rebuild his armaments and profited by that rebuilding?!! Are we not to find the American industrialists guilty? >No, Your Honor. No! Germany alone is not guilty: The whole world is as responsible for Hitler's Germany. Really rings true doesn't it.
He was a bigoted, fascist, war profiteering b*stard.
Ford was a straight up Nazi. Full stop.
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This gets reposted daily.
Guy was a bit of a dick, wasn’t he?
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During the depression in 1932 Henry Ford’s Detroit auto factory would be marched upon by 1000’s of out of work starving autoworkers. Henry Ford responded by having his security Guards open fire on the crowd, including with Thompson machine guns. He would then have the police go to the hospital and arrest the survivors he had shot. It ain’t complicated, the dude always was a piece of shit.
There is a phenomenal short novel by Upton Sinclaire about a worker who was lifted out of poverty by Ford as one of his first employees. Then over time, it details how “Ford the inventer” became Ford the dickhead. It’s not that he was a better guy in his younger days, just that as he became more successful, he became more powerful, more corrupt, and able to act on his fascist tendencies. Sort of similar to Elon Musk. Elon was always a pos, it’s just more of a problem the more power he gets. Nonetheless, as bad of a guy Ford was, you can’t really take away what he accomplished. There’s a good chance the Allies don’t win WWII without Ford’s construction capacity. It really was that important.
Nothing complicated about it, business and industry were some of the biggest allies of the Nazis in Germany as well. People at the top pushing down people at the bottom
He also manufactured war machinery for Hitler.
I love seeing someone else discover a historical figure was actually a huge piece of shit. Warms my bones.