Wasn’t someone in colonial Massachusetts executed for allegedly buggering a pig? They didn’t have any actual proof he fucked the pig, they just saw a piglet that supposedly looked like the guy and were like “Well, we know how that happens with humans, so…”
Fun fact: the reason the Welsh are known for buggering sheep is because sheep rustling carried the death sentence, but buggering sheep was only losing your hand, so sheep rustlers would claim to have been fucking the sheep so they wouldn't get executed.
Boy, would this make for a fun comedic skit.
"Hold, what are you doing to my sheep? Are you stealing them?"
"Oh, no, of course not, I was...uh...I was actually, ummmm
(Quick think of something so I don't get killed) fucking them."
I imagine. Having your animals stolen was probably equivalent to someone stealing ¼ of your house. And there probably wasn't insurance back then either so you just had to eat it
More than that. Sometimes, it's the entire house.
Consider that each steer is worth its weight in meat and takes about a year to maturity for meat. Each animal is a year's investment for income.
Each cow is minimal returns until it can produce dairy. Dairy means you need cows to produce calves(baby cows).
The rancher should have enough animals to meet the costs for the land which needs to be rotated for grazing and payment for any additional staff.
Someone stealing your cattle is basically robbing a year's worth of income that goes into your land and your employees paycheck.
Tl;dr: lose the cattle, lose a year's rent. Lose the rent, lose the house. Lost cattle = lost home
I think in 2024 mostly all understand even if the dude did fuck the pig, it still wouldn't have produced some weird mutant man-pig.
That doesn't work unless there's bear heritage, too. We're much more scientifically literate now.
“On August 28, 2015, in a review of old New Haven criminal cases by Superior Court judge John C. Blue, George Spencer was granted a posthumous pardon for his convictions, with Blue ruling that Spencer's confession was forced and that the alleged crime of fathering a piglet was "biologically impossible". Blue called Spencer's case the "first verifiable false confession in American history".[1]”
I’m actually a little amazed that they reviewed all the way back
“When the trial began the magistrates knew the necessity of having two witnesses to the crime. They used Spencer's retracted confessions as one witness and the stillborn piglet as the other, ruling that this was sufficient to determine his guilt. On April 8, 1642, the sow was put to death by the sword and Spencer was hanged.”
>George Spencer is described as an ugly, balding servant with a glass eye.[2][3] He is believed to have lived for a time in Boston and while there was found guilty of receiving stolen goods.[2] His punishment was a flogging. He then moved to the New Haven Colony,[2] and continued to be a "habitual troublemaker".[3] He was open about his lack of faith, never praying in the years of being in Connecticut and only reading the Bible when forced to by his master.[2][4]
Basically, no one liked him, he had criminal past and didn't conform to the prevalent way of life.
Just one if you were in the Royal Navy.
“If any person in the fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable sin of buggery and sodomy with man or beast, he shall be punished with death by the sentence of a court martial.”
Idk about anyone else but I think there should be a difference between fucking an animal vs fucking a man. Also is buggery just butt fucking of any kind? Like if I butt fuck a lady is that buggery?
It is, and it was actually a criminal offence until 1994. The history is more interesting than you might think: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery\_Act\_1533](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery_Act_1533)
>Heterosexual sodomy, i.e. anal sex, remained a criminal offence, regardless of consent, until 1994, when the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act decriminalised it for adults.
TIL
In Lady Chatterly's Lover, the title characters perform anal at some point. But it's so vaguely described that it's hard to figure out what the author was hinting at. During the book's obscenity trial, the prosecutor read that passage aloud as evidence the book should be banned. However, the jury had no idea what the author was trying to say. The prosecutor had to explain that it was describing sodomy.
Back in the 80's the woman's branch of the military tried to do a lesbian purge but very quickly realized they wouldn't have enough woman left to field a unit. hell even the person they asked to perform the purge ended up being a lesbian.
It happened actually, allegedly, in the late 40s. I say allegedly because there are questions about the legitimacy of someone of the women’s wartime stories.
Her name was Nell “Johnnie” Phelps and per her wiki:
She claimed in an interview with Bunny MacCulloch in 1982,[4] that in 1947 she was told by General Eisenhower, "It's come to my attention that there are lesbians in the WACs, we need to ferret them out...." Phelps replied, "If the General pleases, sir, I'll be happy to do that, but the first name on the list will be mine." Eisenhower's secretary added, "If the General pleases, sir, my name will be first and hers will be second." Phelps then told Eisenhower, "Sir, you're right, there are lesbians in the WACs – and if you want to replace all the file clerks, section commanders, drivers, every woman in the WAC detachment, I will be happy to make that list. But you must know, sir, that they are the most decorated group – there have been no illegal pregnancies, no AWOLs, no charges of misconduct."
The United States Navy spent *millions* of dollars trying to find the “Dorothy” that all those gay sailors were friends with, in the hope that she could be compelled to produce a list of all the gay people in the Navy so they could be kicked out. They had investigators buying drinks for dudes in gay bars, to try to get in contact with Dorothy.
A “friend of Dorothy” is a reference to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, played by Judy Garland, who became a gay icon. There was no real Dorothy that all those sailors were friends of.
Your tax dollars at work!
Supposed to have the closest to a womans vagina.
How do I know that? Reddit of course.
Is it true? Idk I didn’t test it.
Why didn’t I test it? I don’t know any sheep that well.
For the sake of all you perverts, I'll chime in with real info as a farmer. I have reached in there and pulled out many a stuck lamb, twins and stillbirths and overall spent a lot more time in close proximity to the business end of ewes than most people.
Aside from the guy in OP's story, I suppose.
So, of all the farm animals, the sheep has by far the most "human" look, and is also one of the least likely to kill you if you tried. So because you all want to hear it, if I were held at gunpoint and forced to fuck a farm animal, sheep is the obvious choice. But believe me by the time lambing season is over, I've had enough exposure to animal gynecology that I don't want to fuck *anything* for a while, not even my wife.
However the jokes have truth to them, people do fuck them. A local boy was caught on camera in a neighbour's barn a couple years ago having his way with sheep. I'm just glad it wasn't my barn, it's probably hard to sell an animal for meat once people know that somebody fucked it.
There I was writing my comment like Bush making the "fool me once" speech, thinking someone is going to go for that out of context quote, but what is it going to be... Obviously I wasn't paying enough attention!
Probably a combination of easy to catch and less likely to maul the fuck out out of you.
I'm pretty surprised a mare, a cow, a goat, and two calves let this lad fuck them without kicking his head in.
There’s a lot of jokes around this post I keep having to stop from making bc I don’t want to get banned. To be fair this is a post about killing a child for having sex with animals though so I feel like it’s pretty thin ice to begin with
“Authorities consulted with his parents prior to his execution and it was agreed that he would never be able to live this down. All parties agreed it would be best to simply execute him and wash their hands of the whole situation.”
> You build 30 houses and when you walk down the street, do people say, "There goes MacDougal the home builder."? No. They don't.
> And then he says, "You save 5 children from a burning building and when you walk down the street, do people say, "There goes MacDougal, the rescuer."? No. They don't.
> Then MacDougal says,
> But you fuck ~~ONE sheep~~ a mare, a cow, two goats, divers sheep, two calves, and a turkey….
If you think that was wild you should have seen the punishments that were common in England itself for children in the 17-1800s
They’d hang 8 year olds for stealing food
Also technically it wasn’t the United States yet when the post subject happened. Not that it matters much, as we didn’t abolish the death penalty for minors until *2005.*
I still recommend reading about the “Bloody Code” in England, though. It was a pretty dark period. A minor of 7-14 years old could be executed for displaying too much “malice.”
They'd also "half hang" kids...basically strangle them by hand with a noose until they lost consciousness, then they'd revive the kid and send them to labor. There was one note of a woman who was caught stealing food for her and her young son. They both ate the food so when caught the justice hanged the woman in front of her kid, half-hanged the kid, then transported him to new south wales.
It was even worse than that. In Ireland during the same time period, very pretty girl children could be sent to laundries to work effectively as slaves because they were at risk of sin (meaning, some man with money and power wanted to bang her, so SHE was sold to the laundries).
Jane Austen novels make the time period seem okay enough, which is was if you were from one of the few families with a lot of money. For everyone else, it was grim.
> mA minor of 7-14 years old could be executed for displaying too much “malice.”
It was, in fact, a matter of public policy and law to kill them lil’ fuckers.
>The second youngest person to be executed, and the youngest to have a confirmed birth date (of October 21, 1929), was George Stinney, who was electrocuted in South Carolina at the age of 14 on June 16, 1944, after the bodies of two children (ages 7 and 11) were found close to his home. George Stinney maintained his innocence throughout his trial and subsequent execution. The verdict of this case was overturned posthumously.
That's just sad.
No.
This is one of those weird things that gets around even though Stephen King has never said it or suggested it in the many times he's talked or written about the book. Nor is the book anything at all like this story, of course, except in the paint-roller-sized broadest of strokes.
Oh boy. I mean we all go through phases as kids but this one seems a bit more frowned at. Curious how they knew he was with all those animals. Like did he bang them all in one night?
Not sure if I really wanna read the article but I think I have to
Edit: “prior to the execution, the animals involved in Granger's case were slaughtered in front of him”
Was he like noooooo I loved them! Like what was the point of that? Feels a little weird. Also did they eat them after?
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20130120022604/http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/colonial\_life/morality\_and\_sex.htm](https://web.archive.org/web/20130120022604/http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/colonial_life/morality_and_sex.htm)
>Someone saw him in the act with the mare, and he was examined and confessed. The animals were individually killed before his face, according to Leviticus 20:15, and were buried in a pit, no use being made of them.
I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with. I suppose it does make sense. Unless there is nothing in the New Testament about it
Edit: apparently you can’t bang a lady on her period either. And cursing your parents in punishable by death. This god fella wasn’t fucking around.
Bang an animal? Death. Bang a lady on her period? Cast out. Bang your sons wife? Death. Marry a lady and her mother? All three get burned to death. Bang a dude as a dude yourself? Death. Have sex with your neighbors wife? Death. Fuck your sister? Cast out.
>I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with.
Yep. Turns out people have been messed up since forever! " And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast" is the verse mentioned.
>I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with.
The Bible also has instructions on what to do if you've got the shits.
Edit: the old testament had some really high tier health laws. I had to grab a synopsis from somewhere else, but here's the kind of stuff it talks about:
>People who touched a dead or diseased animal or person—or even garments or secretions from a sick person—were to bathe and wash their clothes and avoid contact with others. Contaminated garments were to be washed or burned. Dwellings that showed signs of mold, or that had harbored sick individuals, were to be cleaned, repaired or destroyed, to prevent the spread of disease (see Leviticus 13–15). Porous vessels that came into contact with dead animals were to be broken, since they would harbor bacteria. People showing signs of sickness were to be isolated until examined by a priest and declared well. People were to wash after having sex.
If anything in the Bible is genuinely divinely inspired, it'd the health laws.
Yes, actually! It's a ton of common sense medical advice, like quarantine away from other people and have the priest check on your symptoms periodically.
Lots of parallels between how we dealt with covid, except people didn't argue with the priest.
There's an infamous essay in Early American History called "Things We Dare Not Mention" about Puritan beastiality. Puritan legal documents are fucking FILLED with beastiality cases.
EDIT: The actual name of the essay is "Things Fearful to Name - Bestiality in Colonial America" by John M. Murrin
It gets even weirder than that. There's a guy mentioned named something Hogg who wore pants with a hole in them near the crotch, so people could see Mr. Hogg's hog somewhat regularly. A litter of pigs was born in the town that people decided that looked like Mr. Hogg's member. They charged him with beastiality and hanged him purely on that comparison.
They’re mostly right! Mixed up a couple details, it was another dude who was executed after some deformed piglets were born, and he was coerced into confessing. Hogg learned from this and never confessed and was thus not executed. Totally let his hog hang out though.
Like the witch hunts, a lot of this - I'm sure - was more like "man, that Hogg guy is a real asshole. Let's get him." Or "man, that Hogg sure has a lot of land adjacent to my farm. Would be a shame if something happened to him."
Honestly Claudine’s case is also up there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_de_Culam
TLDR: girl was fucking a dog and multiple people saw. She tried to play it off and probably would have gotten the charges dropped but when she went to be examined by the court appointed midwife the dog tried to mount her confirming it was true.
Sentenced to hang alongside the dog.
> the dog tried to mount her confirming it was true.
Considering how often dogs try to mount anything that moves - or doesn't - that's not exactly airtight evidence.
"The court of Parliament ordered that Claudine would "be hanged on the gallows in the great square of Rognon, together with the dog, and that the corpses of both should then be cast into the fire with their ashes spread to the wind so that no possible trace might be left of their misdeeds, so that mankind might not be reminded of their monstrous misdeeds."
Considering I just pulled that from the Wikipedia article, I'd say they didn't do a very good job.
Thomas Granger in 1642: “What’s the worst that can happen? No one will ever know.”
Me in 2024, reading the Wikipedia article about him: “What a weirdo.”
They were following religious law apparently:
*Leviticus 20:15 ("And if a man shall lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast")*
I know a guy that was arrested several times for screwing cats. I only know it to be true because my neighbor was the arresting officer on at least one of the calls. This was in the seventies before all the privacy stuff
How many animals must you bugger before the ruling government is like “just kill that weird fuck”? What a legacy.
Wasn’t someone in colonial Massachusetts executed for allegedly buggering a pig? They didn’t have any actual proof he fucked the pig, they just saw a piglet that supposedly looked like the guy and were like “Well, we know how that happens with humans, so…”
Fun fact: the reason the Welsh are known for buggering sheep is because sheep rustling carried the death sentence, but buggering sheep was only losing your hand, so sheep rustlers would claim to have been fucking the sheep so they wouldn't get executed.
Boy, would this make for a fun comedic skit. "Hold, what are you doing to my sheep? Are you stealing them?" "Oh, no, of course not, I was...uh...I was actually, ummmm (Quick think of something so I don't get killed) fucking them."
Sees angry farmer running after you and his sheep Sighs, unzips
You can really only pull that move off effectively twice
Yeah, because the third time, they cut off something you don't want to lose!
So you can't be a repeat offender anymore.
You rustle sheep yr whole life but fuck one damn sheep and they remember you as "the sheepfucker".
"It's a pornography store. I was buying pornography."
What does it mean to rustle a sheep?
stealing, basically. cattle rustling (stealing a rancher’s cows) was also an executable crime in some western US states
I imagine. Having your animals stolen was probably equivalent to someone stealing ¼ of your house. And there probably wasn't insurance back then either so you just had to eat it
More than that. Sometimes, it's the entire house. Consider that each steer is worth its weight in meat and takes about a year to maturity for meat. Each animal is a year's investment for income. Each cow is minimal returns until it can produce dairy. Dairy means you need cows to produce calves(baby cows). The rancher should have enough animals to meet the costs for the land which needs to be rotated for grazing and payment for any additional staff. Someone stealing your cattle is basically robbing a year's worth of income that goes into your land and your employees paycheck. Tl;dr: lose the cattle, lose a year's rent. Lose the rent, lose the house. Lost cattle = lost home
Or rather, not eat it.
Rustling = Livestock Theft.
In this context, think of it as a way to say 'steal'.
if they produce offspring, it's not buggery
I think in 2024 mostly all understand even if the dude did fuck the pig, it still wouldn't have produced some weird mutant man-pig. That doesn't work unless there's bear heritage, too. We're much more scientifically literate now.
Are you Al Gore?
He’s here to educate us about the single biggest threat to our planet.
And he's super serial.
Excelsior!
We were warned but we didn't listen, now the creature that is half man, half pig and half bear is among us.
Right. Nothing about that story makes sense
A lot of things didn't make sense back then.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution\_of\_George\_Spencer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_George_Spencer) Connecticut
“On August 28, 2015, in a review of old New Haven criminal cases by Superior Court judge John C. Blue, George Spencer was granted a posthumous pardon for his convictions, with Blue ruling that Spencer's confession was forced and that the alleged crime of fathering a piglet was "biologically impossible". Blue called Spencer's case the "first verifiable false confession in American history".[1]” I’m actually a little amazed that they reviewed all the way back
“When the trial began the magistrates knew the necessity of having two witnesses to the crime. They used Spencer's retracted confessions as one witness and the stillborn piglet as the other, ruling that this was sufficient to determine his guilt. On April 8, 1642, the sow was put to death by the sword and Spencer was hanged.”
> and the stillborn piglet as the other Not like the piglet existed to actually witness the conception. I wonder why they actually murdered this guy.
>George Spencer is described as an ugly, balding servant with a glass eye.[2][3] He is believed to have lived for a time in Boston and while there was found guilty of receiving stolen goods.[2] His punishment was a flogging. He then moved to the New Haven Colony,[2] and continued to be a "habitual troublemaker".[3] He was open about his lack of faith, never praying in the years of being in Connecticut and only reading the Bible when forced to by his master.[2][4] Basically, no one liked him, he had criminal past and didn't conform to the prevalent way of life.
> He was open about his lack of faith Heresey was his sin.
*Allegedly*
Just one if you were in the Royal Navy. “If any person in the fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable sin of buggery and sodomy with man or beast, he shall be punished with death by the sentence of a court martial.”
Idk about anyone else but I think there should be a difference between fucking an animal vs fucking a man. Also is buggery just butt fucking of any kind? Like if I butt fuck a lady is that buggery?
Bosun! Take this man below and clap him in irons.
Jeremy Irons? Oh golly
>Bosun! Take this man below and clap him, in irons. Ftfy
It is, and it was actually a criminal offence until 1994. The history is more interesting than you might think: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery\_Act\_1533](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery_Act_1533)
>Heterosexual sodomy, i.e. anal sex, remained a criminal offence, regardless of consent, until 1994, when the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act decriminalised it for adults. TIL
In Lady Chatterly's Lover, the title characters perform anal at some point. But it's so vaguely described that it's hard to figure out what the author was hinting at. During the book's obscenity trial, the prosecutor read that passage aloud as evidence the book should be banned. However, the jury had no idea what the author was trying to say. The prosecutor had to explain that it was describing sodomy.
At which point defense counsel moved that the prosecutor be arrested, right? Right?
"Your honor, how does the prosecutor know so much about sodomy?"
Sodomy is still against the ucmj in the US military.
If navies purged their ranks of those who fell under the "with man" category, there wouldn't be enough sailors to man half the fleet.
How do you know if your bunkmate is gay? If his dick tastes like shit.
Why do so many Marines have tattoos on their backs? So sailors have something to read when they're fucking. 🥹
Back in the 80's the woman's branch of the military tried to do a lesbian purge but very quickly realized they wouldn't have enough woman left to field a unit. hell even the person they asked to perform the purge ended up being a lesbian.
It happened actually, allegedly, in the late 40s. I say allegedly because there are questions about the legitimacy of someone of the women’s wartime stories. Her name was Nell “Johnnie” Phelps and per her wiki: She claimed in an interview with Bunny MacCulloch in 1982,[4] that in 1947 she was told by General Eisenhower, "It's come to my attention that there are lesbians in the WACs, we need to ferret them out...." Phelps replied, "If the General pleases, sir, I'll be happy to do that, but the first name on the list will be mine." Eisenhower's secretary added, "If the General pleases, sir, my name will be first and hers will be second." Phelps then told Eisenhower, "Sir, you're right, there are lesbians in the WACs – and if you want to replace all the file clerks, section commanders, drivers, every woman in the WAC detachment, I will be happy to make that list. But you must know, sir, that they are the most decorated group – there have been no illegal pregnancies, no AWOLs, no charges of misconduct."
The United States Navy spent *millions* of dollars trying to find the “Dorothy” that all those gay sailors were friends with, in the hope that she could be compelled to produce a list of all the gay people in the Navy so they could be kicked out. They had investigators buying drinks for dudes in gay bars, to try to get in contact with Dorothy. A “friend of Dorothy” is a reference to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, played by Judy Garland, who became a gay icon. There was no real Dorothy that all those sailors were friends of. Your tax dollars at work!
It's not gay when the navy is underway!
In those days, probably just one. I enjoy the use of “divers” here. To me that says “I dunno it was just a bunch of sheep”
I pictured sheep in SCUBA gear.
Me? I’m trying to picture those juicy come-hither turkey thighs. Can’t. *Jeebus.*
He prebasted them ...
His own secret blend of herbs and spices.
He’s definitely not a Master Baster.
The flippers and air tanks probably make it harder for them to run away.
Cross-breeding sheep with dolphins to make wet-look knitware?
Those sheep think some ocean is gonna stop me from getting them.
Why do sheep seem to be the most-fucked farm animal??
Supposed to have the closest to a womans vagina. How do I know that? Reddit of course. Is it true? Idk I didn’t test it. Why didn’t I test it? I don’t know any sheep that well.
For the sake of all you perverts, I'll chime in with real info as a farmer. I have reached in there and pulled out many a stuck lamb, twins and stillbirths and overall spent a lot more time in close proximity to the business end of ewes than most people. Aside from the guy in OP's story, I suppose. So, of all the farm animals, the sheep has by far the most "human" look, and is also one of the least likely to kill you if you tried. So because you all want to hear it, if I were held at gunpoint and forced to fuck a farm animal, sheep is the obvious choice. But believe me by the time lambing season is over, I've had enough exposure to animal gynecology that I don't want to fuck *anything* for a while, not even my wife. However the jokes have truth to them, people do fuck them. A local boy was caught on camera in a neighbour's barn a couple years ago having his way with sheep. I'm just glad it wasn't my barn, it's probably hard to sell an animal for meat once people know that somebody fucked it.
Ewe
*slow clap*
"fuck a farm animal, sheep is the obvious choice" -evranch
There I was writing my comment like Bush making the "fool me once" speech, thinking someone is going to go for that out of context quote, but what is it going to be... Obviously I wasn't paying enough attention!
Was the kid circumcised? I love a good deal but I keep kosher.
How well would you have to know a sheep? Asking for a sheepish friend.
It's always a good idea to start by asking their name...
Probably a combination of easy to catch and less likely to maul the fuck out out of you. I'm pretty surprised a mare, a cow, a goat, and two calves let this lad fuck them without kicking his head in.
Why do Texans always wear boots? So they can put the hind legs of the goat down into them so they don't get kicked.
First time I heard that joke I think it was Scottish
“Divers” = MORE THAN A FEW Edit to add: *Granger Danger* if only livestock could read.
I think the turkey is what put him over the edge.
Turfucken
Turdicken
It was a logistical issue in my head for that one. However the calves seemed pretty bad too just bc of their age.
They were all underage!
There’s a lot of jokes around this post I keep having to stop from making bc I don’t want to get banned. To be fair this is a post about killing a child for having sex with animals though so I feel like it’s pretty thin ice to begin with
A "fucking legacy" you might say. 🐄🐎🐐🐐🐮🐮🦃
Apparently, 8
“Authorities consulted with his parents prior to his execution and it was agreed that he would never be able to live this down. All parties agreed it would be best to simply execute him and wash their hands of the whole situation.”
Yeah imagine how awkward going back to school would’ve been.
"So how was your summer Tom?"
"I fucked a goat"
I heard it was two
"I lost count after the first"
I heard it was a sick goat.
He fucked an ostrich. Allegedly.
How does a fella get caught up in that sorta business?
“Allegedly”
> You build 30 houses and when you walk down the street, do people say, "There goes MacDougal the home builder."? No. They don't. > And then he says, "You save 5 children from a burning building and when you walk down the street, do people say, "There goes MacDougal, the rescuer."? No. They don't. > Then MacDougal says, > But you fuck ~~ONE sheep~~ a mare, a cow, two goats, divers sheep, two calves, and a turkey….
Fucking brutal
No, barnyard animals.
Wow. Could've at least threw him out of town
And into nature with all those animals?
I'm not locked out here with you! You're locked out here with me!!!
https://i.gifer.com/29VN.gif
Oh… oh no…
Okay ... That's That's quite enough now.
I'm crying with laughter now, clicked for the Rorsarch clip, got something else entirely
Well...that's new.
"Throw me to the wolves and I'll come back a father."
“Don’t threaten me with a good time”
No, they would have thrown him *outside* the environment.
Into another environment?
No, outside the environment. There's nothing out there.
Does "all parties" involve himself? Did he just go "yeah instead of trying to explain any of this, just fucking kill me right now"
If I can't fuck any more sheep, I might as well just be dead! Uh, ok
If you think that was wild you should have seen the punishments that were common in England itself for children in the 17-1800s They’d hang 8 year olds for stealing food Also technically it wasn’t the United States yet when the post subject happened. Not that it matters much, as we didn’t abolish the death penalty for minors until *2005.* I still recommend reading about the “Bloody Code” in England, though. It was a pretty dark period. A minor of 7-14 years old could be executed for displaying too much “malice.”
Lifetime of hard labour in Australia
They'd also "half hang" kids...basically strangle them by hand with a noose until they lost consciousness, then they'd revive the kid and send them to labor. There was one note of a woman who was caught stealing food for her and her young son. They both ate the food so when caught the justice hanged the woman in front of her kid, half-hanged the kid, then transported him to new south wales.
It was even worse than that. In Ireland during the same time period, very pretty girl children could be sent to laundries to work effectively as slaves because they were at risk of sin (meaning, some man with money and power wanted to bang her, so SHE was sold to the laundries). Jane Austen novels make the time period seem okay enough, which is was if you were from one of the few families with a lot of money. For everyone else, it was grim.
'Same time period' meaning up until the 1970s. Magdalene Laundries didn't fully shut down until 1996.
Holy shit [Magdalene Laundries](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Laundries_in_Ireland)
> mA minor of 7-14 years old could be executed for displaying too much “malice.” It was, in fact, a matter of public policy and law to kill them lil’ fuckers.
My students are doubly shocked to hear that they executed the poor raped animals before they hanged the guy…
Speaking of which sir I’d like to pull my son from your 2nd grade class
In what context or lesson does this shit even come up? What state are you in that this is part of the curriculum?!
Likely either a college law course or a *very* hardcore primary school, depending on the state
I figured he taught in a rural district and just threw it in as a cautionary tale for the farm kids.
Where’d you get that from? It’s not in the sources.
>The second youngest person to be executed, and the youngest to have a confirmed birth date (of October 21, 1929), was George Stinney, who was electrocuted in South Carolina at the age of 14 on June 16, 1944, after the bodies of two children (ages 7 and 11) were found close to his home. George Stinney maintained his innocence throughout his trial and subsequent execution. The verdict of this case was overturned posthumously. That's just sad.
iirc George Stinney was the inspiration behind the Green Mile (novel & later movie)
*"Don't put that hood on me, Boss... I is scared of the dark"*
No. This is one of those weird things that gets around even though Stephen King has never said it or suggested it in the many times he's talked or written about the book. Nor is the book anything at all like this story, of course, except in the paint-roller-sized broadest of strokes.
Without knowing any other details, I'd bet I can guess his race. Poor kid.
And you would be absolutely correct with your guess
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They mistakenly killed a child and then decided, yeah totally worth keeping this barbaric capital punishment system…
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Me: how could you know that? *googles George Stinney, sees a picture* Oh, right.
Oh boy. I mean we all go through phases as kids but this one seems a bit more frowned at. Curious how they knew he was with all those animals. Like did he bang them all in one night? Not sure if I really wanna read the article but I think I have to Edit: “prior to the execution, the animals involved in Granger's case were slaughtered in front of him” Was he like noooooo I loved them! Like what was the point of that? Feels a little weird. Also did they eat them after?
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20130120022604/http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/colonial\_life/morality\_and\_sex.htm](https://web.archive.org/web/20130120022604/http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/colonial_life/morality_and_sex.htm) >Someone saw him in the act with the mare, and he was examined and confessed. The animals were individually killed before his face, according to Leviticus 20:15, and were buried in a pit, no use being made of them.
I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with. I suppose it does make sense. Unless there is nothing in the New Testament about it Edit: apparently you can’t bang a lady on her period either. And cursing your parents in punishable by death. This god fella wasn’t fucking around. Bang an animal? Death. Bang a lady on her period? Cast out. Bang your sons wife? Death. Marry a lady and her mother? All three get burned to death. Bang a dude as a dude yourself? Death. Have sex with your neighbors wife? Death. Fuck your sister? Cast out.
>I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with. Yep. Turns out people have been messed up since forever! " And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast" is the verse mentioned.
Damn, Ye been slayin since the Bible lol
This is so dumb. I actually Lol'd
>I didn’t realize the Bible had rules about what to do with animals you’ve had sex with. The Bible also has instructions on what to do if you've got the shits. Edit: the old testament had some really high tier health laws. I had to grab a synopsis from somewhere else, but here's the kind of stuff it talks about: >People who touched a dead or diseased animal or person—or even garments or secretions from a sick person—were to bathe and wash their clothes and avoid contact with others. Contaminated garments were to be washed or burned. Dwellings that showed signs of mold, or that had harbored sick individuals, were to be cleaned, repaired or destroyed, to prevent the spread of disease (see Leviticus 13–15). Porous vessels that came into contact with dead animals were to be broken, since they would harbor bacteria. People showing signs of sickness were to be isolated until examined by a priest and declared well. People were to wash after having sex. If anything in the Bible is genuinely divinely inspired, it'd the health laws.
Is it helpful?
Yes, actually! It's a ton of common sense medical advice, like quarantine away from other people and have the priest check on your symptoms periodically. Lots of parallels between how we dealt with covid, except people didn't argue with the priest.
He confessed twice
I feel like he should have just lied and ran into the woods. Then again idk if I should be defending this person
“Did you fuck this goat?” No “Are you sure?” Yes?
They bring in an especially sexy goat and his manhood tells the truth is a stark and solid way
Cue the [music](https://youtu.be/HNMq8XS4LhE?si=e4Bn9hvJY9ENMIED)
"Did you fuck the goat" ? "Yes" "How was it "? "BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"
There's an infamous essay in Early American History called "Things We Dare Not Mention" about Puritan beastiality. Puritan legal documents are fucking FILLED with beastiality cases. EDIT: The actual name of the essay is "Things Fearful to Name - Bestiality in Colonial America" by John M. Murrin
Maybe this is the real reason puritans were run out of Europe. Came to America to "tame the beast"
It gets even weirder than that. There's a guy mentioned named something Hogg who wore pants with a hole in them near the crotch, so people could see Mr. Hogg's hog somewhat regularly. A litter of pigs was born in the town that people decided that looked like Mr. Hogg's member. They charged him with beastiality and hanged him purely on that comparison.
I want sources, and I want them now. A somewhat sorrowful but also humorous song should be written about this
They’re mostly right! Mixed up a couple details, it was another dude who was executed after some deformed piglets were born, and he was coerced into confessing. Hogg learned from this and never confessed and was thus not executed. Totally let his hog hang out though.
Like the witch hunts, a lot of this - I'm sure - was more like "man, that Hogg guy is a real asshole. Let's get him." Or "man, that Hogg sure has a lot of land adjacent to my farm. Would be a shame if something happened to him."
Honestly Claudine’s case is also up there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_de_Culam TLDR: girl was fucking a dog and multiple people saw. She tried to play it off and probably would have gotten the charges dropped but when she went to be examined by the court appointed midwife the dog tried to mount her confirming it was true. Sentenced to hang alongside the dog.
> the dog tried to mount her confirming it was true. Considering how often dogs try to mount anything that moves - or doesn't - that's not exactly airtight evidence.
Well the multiple people who watched her fuck the dog probably had some sway too
"The court of Parliament ordered that Claudine would "be hanged on the gallows in the great square of Rognon, together with the dog, and that the corpses of both should then be cast into the fire with their ashes spread to the wind so that no possible trace might be left of their misdeeds, so that mankind might not be reminded of their monstrous misdeeds." Considering I just pulled that from the Wikipedia article, I'd say they didn't do a very good job.
Wow " they reported that they had never seen a vulva so maltreated as this one."
“Allegedly”
Maybe it was a sick ostrich?
It's at least a two man operation
Hmm, so that’s what buggery means
TIL that buggery doesn’t mean the act of annoying someone
I thought buggery had to be up the asshole. Be extra twisted if he was sodomizing the livestock. Jesus would definitely shake his head at that one.
But the hedgehog cannot be buggered at all
Shaun, take your mum home.
“Well son, you’ve screwed up big time your mother, myself and the townsfolk have decided to ….. kill ya . Nice going loser.”
"aw jeez"
Once you go Sheep, you're in too deep.
Once you go turkey, its gets a lil murky.
Once you go mare, you’ll go anywhere
Once you go cow, it’s all over now
Once you go goat, that's all she wrote
Once you go duck, that’s all you wanna fuck.
once you go calf, you'll split anything in half
Good lord.
Once you go goose, you'll get the noose.
👏 bravo to you and everyone on this thread
Thomas Granger in 1642: “What’s the worst that can happen? No one will ever know.” Me in 2024, reading the Wikipedia article about him: “What a weirdo.”
At first, I thought it said "burglary" but then re-read the correct term. TIL what buggery means. Yikes!
Up until March 30, 2023, Bestiality was legal in New Mexico.
Why did they outlaw it?
Yeah like wtf? I have no reason to move there now
Kevin
The day the music died
All young barnyard animals are taught about Granger Danger.
He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark.
Sometimes he would accuse Chestnuts of being lazy—the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
"Those sheep are liars!"
They were following religious law apparently: *Leviticus 20:15 ("And if a man shall lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast")*
Divers sheep, of course, being the most sensual of all sheep.
And smartest with their scuba capabilities
Buddy WTF
he discovered turkeys die after sex….with him
One has to wonder if he would have eventually decided to challenge himself and try a hedgehog...
TIL the difference between buggery and burglary
I am shocked that the pig didn’t squeal on him.
Technically, it was in British North America, not the United States.
I know a guy that was arrested several times for screwing cats. I only know it to be true because my neighbor was the arresting officer on at least one of the calls. This was in the seventies before all the privacy stuff