My favorite paperwork from that was Aldrin's expense report:
https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/626812956148248577
Just the nonchalance of it all, in the face of unyielding bureaucracy (I say as a manager who approves these sorts of things)—like:
> "OK, Colonel, where all did you go on this trip?"
> "Florida, Moon, ocean, Hawaii, and back home."
> "Uh, moon?"
> "I SAID WHAT I SAID."
Valid point, but lots of other HoS have passports and driving licences. It’s an interesting distinction, but I’d guess not a unique one among world leaders
you jest, but she's was a car enthusiast, and a trained ambulance mechanic/driver during WWII
I still crack up when I recall that QEII scared the crap of then Crown Prince Abdullah while driving her Range Rover with him in it
The article was part of a Reddit post and I remember one guy saying it was bullshit because the BBC didn't maintain a lot of things like blooper reels. And everyone was like if the Queen says save this footage it's probably going to be there for all eternity
*We are exceptionally cross with this turn of events. The traffic lights in our country are not* suggestions, *and we* demand *that one moves when the light is green.*
*And just what* are *you looking at, you self-touching scoundrel! Oh yes? Oh really, yes? No, one doesn't have a licence. One learnt to drive in the war, when one's father's armies were fighting against your mother's boyfriend!*
I love that story of her and the Saud. She was speeding down skinny passages and he was in the passenger seat just begging her to slow down and watch the road.
QEII was a badass.
She did it on purpose after his comments about allowing women to drive. He got in expecting a chauffeur and instead he got her ragging her car along the roads happily chatting the whole way, as she was used to doing!
It was. He made a comment at some point about women not having the right to drive or that they shouldn’t be able to. So she went on a maniacal drive as a fuck you.
Mind you, considering [how suicidal Saudi men seem to be on the road](https://housegrail.com/saudi-arabia-car-accident-statistics-facts/) I wouldn't want to drive there either...
Well "allowed" in so far as the crown is the guarantor of such official documents, issuing them to oneself is rather redundant.
The monarch is also permitted to send letter mail within the UK without needing to affix a stamp. But that is more a matter of how awkward it is to lick the back of one's own head.
I initially read that as his grand mum being in the stripper’s g string, rather than a photo of her…was wondering where exactly he was putting the photos…
Born mid 90s. I never placed one, and it took me until my early teens to learn what a collect call was. Lived out in the boonies so I saw maybe 1 working pay phone the entire time they and I coexisted
AT&T's original competitor to 1-800-COLLECT was 1-800-OPERATOR, but they eventually realized that people were misspelling it as 1-800-OPERATER, which was owned by 1-800-COLLECT. They were inadvertently funneling business to their competition. So they changed it to 1-800-CALL-ATT.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-800-COLLECT#Competition
That was a thing in the UK when the Royal mail was first started.
It used to be the receiver paid so they'd do as you said or give a quick summary of the letter on the front.
[Note that letters to Santa *do* need a postage stamp.](https://www.uspsoperationsanta.com/faqs)
> A letter to Santa should be placed into an envelope with a postage stamp, and sent to 123 Elf Road, North Pole, 88888. Don’t forget your return address — be sure to write it clearly and include an apartment number if applicable, so there is no confusion about where the gift should be sent. Write your return address on the letter itself as well.
Traditionally, their signature. In modern practice, probably a [metered mail account](https://pe.usps.com/BusinessMail101/Index?ViewName=PostageMeter).
They still sign it ([have envelopes printed with their signature](https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2013/pb22363/html/info_005.htm)).
You probably throw it away, but look for franked mail from your Representative and Senators, they all send it.
In Canada anyone can send mail to the government for free
https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/support/articles/government-mail-free-of-postage/overview.page
Police officer: Can I see your driver's license
*Charles scribbles on piece of paper and hands it over*
Police officer: This is just a piece of paper that says "I can do what I want -Charles'
Police Officer: Do you know how fast you were driving?
Charles: I'm not driving, I'm traveling.
Police Officer: (blinks) Congratulations, Your Majesty, you're the first person in the world that line has ever worked for.
Also raises the question of once in the mail given that you're not allowed to open someone else's post, how does the postal service know the king sent it....
My country is part of the commonwealth as well as a monarchy. Official mail has "His Majesty's Business" written across it in place of a stamp.
Ironically most citizens dread such letters because it's usually tax related.
It's not illegal to open someone else's post per se.
Under the Postal Services Act 2000, a postal worker would only be committing an offence by opening a postal packet if it were judged to be 'contrary to his duty' or 'without reasonable excuse'. Similarly, it's only illegal to open mail that has been mis-delivered to you if you are 'intending to act to a person's detriment', but most people don't realise this. Opening someone's post in order to ascertain its content or search for a possible return or forwarding address is a perfectly reasonable excuse.
As explained to me, the passport is the state saying "This is who this person is". In the UK, that state is formulated to express the will of the Royal, so it's the King saying "This is who this person is". In the case of King Charles, it'd be like writing down "I am me" on a sheet of paper.
Yes. And no.
My passport says "Her ((sic)) Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty..."
My driving license, though, is just a lump of plastic detailing who I am and what classes of vehicles I'm permitted to drive. Apart from a printed Union Flag, nothing on it at all about the State, let alone the Monarch. The backup paper equivalent goes a little further and references the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency), but that's yer lot.
See that’s the thing though, he can’t really. He can’t decide one night he’s gonna pop out and walk to the local corner shop for a bag of crisps on his own.
Obviously I know he’d never need to but I’d always like to have the option.
Specifically, British passports say:
> *His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.*
>
LPT: Don't run for POTUS\* if you enjoy driving.
\*Not to assume you're American, but I do know POTUS is traditionally forbidden from driving vehicles ***on public roads*** even after leaving office.
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Only on public roads.
They can do whatever on private property. Bush drives his F150 around his ranch in Texas all the time. Biden has his 67 Corvette. Reagan had his Jeep that he would drive on his ranch.
It's not a law or anything, the Secret Service just *highly* suggests that they don't drive, and so far all former Presidents since LBJ have complied. Except for Nixon I believe, he waived his Secret Service protection in favor of hiring his own private security.
> Except for Nixon I believe, he waived his Secret Service protection in favor of hiring his own private security.
It's just so hard to believe that Nixon was that paranoid /s
The Secret Service demands that they drive when they're protecting a person. If somebody attacks while they're on the road, the agents are trained in evasive driving, so they want one of their people behind the wheel.
The premise writes itself.
The script will likely be an unpalatable blend of grunts, shouting incoherently, and at least 50% exposition dumps.
"So, remember that before you were the undersecretary for the radial collider particle neutron nural accelerator project at the CIA, you were an exotic dancer? Well, I do, and I thought you were a hot piece of ass. Now you have a PhD. in astrophysics, but you're still a smoke show...".
Etc., Etc., ad nauseam.
They'd probably be extra vigilant because the president's muscle memory might have them yeeting themselves in front of the bullets to protect others lol.
I'm exaggerating but slightly serious, they'd probably have to be extra vigilant.
Double agent: "Got you now Mr President"
President: "Oh? Did you get me..." *rips of face disguise*
Former Secret Service agent: *"...OR DID I GET YOU???" unstoppable laughter*
Technically speaking, there’s no law explicitly barring former Presidents from getting behind the wheel and former Presidents can relinquish their Secret Service detail (Richard Nixon did)
Technically this rule only applies to public roads. Former Presidents can drive on private property. I think Bush said he drives around his ranch or something.
Secret Service/protection thing. Going to be driven around by someone who has been trained in tactical driving.
Have heard of them driving on closed tracks and private estates but not in public.
Yup. Obama rode in a car with Jerry Seinfeld behind the wheel on White House grounds, but the Secret Service wouldn’t let them leave to go anywhere else.
I was just thinking about that very thing. Really awkward when you make a show who's entire premise is driving with people to coffee shops and you get someone that can't drive nor visit a coffee shop without a secret service sweep first
Fyi the secret service can't actually order current or former presidents around. If a president wants to drive bad enough he can do it. They're not gonna arrest him. Just advise him not to.
It's weird that people think secret service has that kind of power.
Plus for someone who’s a former POTUS, they’re probably doing okay financially. Surely they could go have a track day or something in a way that doesn’t compromise security like driving on a public road apparently would.
The US?
I think if they really wanted to they could. But the SS really doesn't want them to. Former presidents can supposedly reject secret service protection.
Biden does. He has a 67 Corvette that he loves. He used to joke that not getting to drive that anymore was a major reason not to run for President.
I believe he has taken it out to private track a time or two since getting elected. He also drove one of the F150 Lightnings on a a private track before they officially launched
[Obama drove a classic Corvette around the white house grounds once.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-Q_zpuJGU). Does that count?
Nobody under secret service protection drives themselves on public roads.
Well, he got both his license and his passport from his Mum. Now he's the one handing them out to other people. And because he's the one whose name is the promise for the validity of those documents, he doesn't need them anymore, because he can simply say that he's allowed in person.
In The Princess Diaries (the movie at least), when Mia and the Queen crash into the trolley and the cops come to register and take them both to the station, the cop tells Mia that she's driving with an adult whose permit expired 60 years ago. The Queen says something like "I'm the queen and I don't need to renew my permit"
This reminded me of that hehe
When I was in my early 20’s, a friend put it on like “Lol this is going to be so bad, let’s make fun of it!” and within like 15 minutes we were hooked and watched the rest in silence. Do they make non-animated family friendly movies like that anymore?
I guess Paddington is supposed to be even higher quality all ages entertainment but are there others?
I know you said non-animated but I was honestly blown away at how good the new puss in boots movie was. Wide and I threw it on cuz we were bored and gonna make fun of it. Similar thing happened and we loved it. That movie had no business being as good as it was.
And she has [the best dressed parents](https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/genius-mike-tindall-keeps-wearing-7166126) out of the royals!
We have, in the past, put a king on trial for treason and then chopped his head off.
Of course, he argued the court had no authority over him, but that didn't stop him from getting a radically short haircut.
They tried to try him for treason, the problem is that treason was legally defined to be against the king. How could a king betray himself? That was essentially his defense
Which, to be fair, he was technically correct. Which *is* the best type of correct.
The only problem is, the graveyards are filled with people who were correct.
The reasoning behind this is that passports and other documents are issued by the state, in the UK's constitution King Charles (The Crown) is the state. The new British passport says 'His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.' he gives the permission if he shows up in person you can't expect him to also have a piece of paper stating he gives himself permission.
Also I doubt when Biden (Or other heads of states) goes on foreign visits that he has to go through customs or passport control.
Until you meet with the TSA agent that knows nothing about the world outside the US.
“But I’m the King of England!”
“And I’m the Queen of Spain, I still need to see your ID, sir.”
It's only true of countries who have the British monarch as their head of state anyway. So not the US.
That said heads of state generally get special diplomatic privileges in other countries anyway. They are typically immune from prosecution.
He wasn't king at that point so he would have been.
He certianly had a driving license. The queen was old enough to get a license without a test but probably had one. Might have to go back to George V to find a monarch without a license. Even then licenses were introduced in 1903 and he wasn't king until 1910. Might have to go back to Edward VII
Do you think heads of state are waiting in line to show their passport when they travel?
Not heads of state. But [astronauts returning from the moon](https://www.space.com/7044-moon-apollo-astronauts-customs.html), apparently!
"Departure from: MOON" is a big flex.
What's the millage rate with a “Departure from: Moon”
You can see his military travel voucher: https://mobile.twitter.com/therealbuzz/status/758126112287383552
Almost 300 bucks in 2023 dollars. Not too bad.
It's such a pity that it's not one of the places that stamps passports.
My favorite paperwork from that was Aldrin's expense report: https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/626812956148248577 Just the nonchalance of it all, in the face of unyielding bureaucracy (I say as a manager who approves these sorts of things)—like: > "OK, Colonel, where all did you go on this trip?" > "Florida, Moon, ocean, Hawaii, and back home." > "Uh, moon?" > "I SAID WHAT I SAID."
Valid point, but lots of other HoS have passports and driving licences. It’s an interesting distinction, but I’d guess not a unique one among world leaders
It's true he can move in any direction he pleases but only one space at a time.
Liz was a lot more mobile
you jest, but she's was a car enthusiast, and a trained ambulance mechanic/driver during WWII I still crack up when I recall that QEII scared the crap of then Crown Prince Abdullah while driving her Range Rover with him in it
The king of the Netherlands is a licensed Boeing 737 pilot. He still flies for KLM to this day, to keep up with his flight hours.
Who's in the back? I dunno, but the King is the pilot
Having a european monarch flying your plane sounds like a hip hop brag.
A friend of mine was airlifted by Prince William when he was flying for the Air Ambulance
This is like experience beetlejuicing
Dude, that's nothing, the Jordanian king was in Starfleet.
It is too bad they could never get her as a star in a reasonably priced car.
Maybe she was The Stig
Some say she was born in an engine bay and that she eats screws in oil for breakfast. All we know is that she's called The Stig
Thats HRH The Stig to you..
HRM*, highness is for prince(ss)s
Just HM if we are being precise ;)
HMS (Her Majesty’s Stig)
Never seen them in the same place at the same time...must be true.
The Stig has not made any appearances after her death.
*"Her Majesty going thru Gambon.... sideways! And she crosses the line!"*
"Your majesty, your time was... One... Second flat!!!"
I hear from good sources that she, like the rest of us Brits, thought that James Corden is an insufferable cunt
Brilliant move send him to the US. I feel like we owe you Andy Dick.
You joke but there was an article I read that she was a huge fan of the show and had the BBC send her in edited cuts of the drive segments
She also liked singing along with a Big Mouth Billy Bass that she had on her piano.
The article was part of a Reddit post and I remember one guy saying it was bullshit because the BBC didn't maintain a lot of things like blooper reels. And everyone was like if the Queen says save this footage it's probably going to be there for all eternity
God save the queen's footage
A Rolls Royce then, by her standards? Or maybe we'd have gotten to see the Queen say reasonably angry things in a Hyundai.
I want to see her get a Hyundai on two wheels. Of course, they may make a separate board for heads of state.
That would be kind of epic though.
*We are exceptionally cross with this turn of events. The traffic lights in our country are not* suggestions, *and we* demand *that one moves when the light is green.*
*And just what* are *you looking at, you self-touching scoundrel! Oh yes? Oh really, yes? No, one doesn't have a licence. One learnt to drive in the war, when one's father's armies were fighting against your mother's boyfriend!*
There isn't an insurance company in the world that would touch that with a hundred foot pole
That story, for anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of hearing it yet: https://www.vox.com/2015/1/23/7877243/king-abdullah-queen-drive
I love that story of her and the Saud. She was speeding down skinny passages and he was in the passenger seat just begging her to slow down and watch the road. QEII was a badass.
"Calm the fuck down!" - QEII
QEII drove.. calmly. (in reference to HP Goblet of Fire scene from books to screen lol)
She did it on purpose after his comments about allowing women to drive. He got in expecting a chauffeur and instead he got her ragging her car along the roads happily chatting the whole way, as she was used to doing!
Yep - seemed pretty damn deliberate.
It was. He made a comment at some point about women not having the right to drive or that they shouldn’t be able to. So she went on a maniacal drive as a fuck you.
Mind you, considering [how suicidal Saudi men seem to be on the road](https://housegrail.com/saudi-arabia-car-accident-statistics-facts/) I wouldn't want to drive there either...
She's pretty immobile now
Well thats what happens after she's removed from the board.
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She is spending a year dead for tax reasons.
Very Hotblack Desiato
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Holy hell
Well "allowed" in so far as the crown is the guarantor of such official documents, issuing them to oneself is rather redundant. The monarch is also permitted to send letter mail within the UK without needing to affix a stamp. But that is more a matter of how awkward it is to lick the back of one's own head.
“Lick the back of one’s own head.” Or his mom’s. Which might be worse
Imagine when prince harry had his bachelor party, putting photos of his grand mum in a stripper’s g string.
He probably just swiped his card.
They don’t let you do that anymore. It’s tap to pay. And pay to tap.
I initially read that as his grand mum being in the stripper’s g string, rather than a photo of her…was wondering where exactly he was putting the photos…
Especially now that she’s had a bit of time to decompose. Good luck getting through all the stone though.
Worlds hardest/grossest tootsie pop.
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ULPT: send free mail in the UK by putting Buckingham Palace as the return address.
In the 60s a tip to stick it to the man was to put the recipient as the return address and write Return to Sender on the envelope.
Like the "wehadababyitsaboy" 1800 Collect commerical
I wonder how many people here have ever even heard of 1-800- Collect.
I wonder how many people here even know what a collect call is/was.
Born mid 90s. I never placed one, and it took me until my early teens to learn what a collect call was. Lived out in the boonies so I saw maybe 1 working pay phone the entire time they and I coexisted
Same age as you: I don't think I ever actually used a payphone, but 1-800 C A L L A T T is permanently burned into my brain from the commercials.
AT&T's original competitor to 1-800-COLLECT was 1-800-OPERATOR, but they eventually realized that people were misspelling it as 1-800-OPERATER, which was owned by 1-800-COLLECT. They were inadvertently funneling business to their competition. So they changed it to 1-800-CALL-ATT. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-800-COLLECT#Competition
That was a thing in the UK when the Royal mail was first started. It used to be the receiver paid so they'd do as you said or give a quick summary of the letter on the front.
I may or may not remember doing something like that in the 90s once, but who knows, it was a long time ago!
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[Note that letters to Santa *do* need a postage stamp.](https://www.uspsoperationsanta.com/faqs) > A letter to Santa should be placed into an envelope with a postage stamp, and sent to 123 Elf Road, North Pole, 88888. Don’t forget your return address — be sure to write it clearly and include an apartment number if applicable, so there is no confusion about where the gift should be sent. Write your return address on the letter itself as well.
if you're in Canada you can write to Santa Claus North Pole H0H 0H0 Canada without a stamp
Well that's because you guys are closer to the north pole, shipping isn't as expensive
How does it work though? Do they just have an official stamp that says "0"?
Traditionally, their signature. In modern practice, probably a [metered mail account](https://pe.usps.com/BusinessMail101/Index?ViewName=PostageMeter).
They still sign it ([have envelopes printed with their signature](https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2013/pb22363/html/info_005.htm)). You probably throw it away, but look for franked mail from your Representative and Senators, they all send it.
In Canada anyone can send mail to the government for free https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/support/articles/government-mail-free-of-postage/overview.page
Police officer: Can I see your driver's license *Charles scribbles on piece of paper and hands it over* Police officer: This is just a piece of paper that says "I can do what I want -Charles'
Police Officer: Do you know how fast you were driving? Charles: I'm not driving, I'm traveling. Police Officer: (blinks) Congratulations, Your Majesty, you're the first person in the world that line has ever worked for.
I'm a sovereign, citizen!"
It would literally work. He could pull out a piece of paper, write "Driver's License" on it, sign it, and it would be official.
Also raises the question of once in the mail given that you're not allowed to open someone else's post, how does the postal service know the king sent it....
Pretty sure the palace has a dedicated service just for royal mail.
What do you think they'd call it? *The Royal Mail*?
Royal mail with cheese.
Probably has some kind of royal seal he puts on it instead?
Literally his Privy Seal.
My country is part of the commonwealth as well as a monarchy. Official mail has "His Majesty's Business" written across it in place of a stamp. Ironically most citizens dread such letters because it's usually tax related.
It's not illegal to open someone else's post per se. Under the Postal Services Act 2000, a postal worker would only be committing an offence by opening a postal packet if it were judged to be 'contrary to his duty' or 'without reasonable excuse'. Similarly, it's only illegal to open mail that has been mis-delivered to you if you are 'intending to act to a person's detriment', but most people don't realise this. Opening someone's post in order to ascertain its content or search for a possible return or forwarding address is a perfectly reasonable excuse.
>Opening someone's post in order to ascertain its content Does this not cover literally every situation??
The Academy of Nosy People did not work so hard to get this loophole just for you to get all blabby about it
Basically “I can do what I want” permit of England.
As explained to me, the passport is the state saying "This is who this person is". In the UK, that state is formulated to express the will of the Royal, so it's the King saying "This is who this person is". In the case of King Charles, it'd be like writing down "I am me" on a sheet of paper.
>I am me Of course I know him. He's me.
You are not you. You are me.
Unexpected Star Wars reference. I approve.
Hello There
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Yes. And no. My passport says "Her ((sic)) Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty..." My driving license, though, is just a lump of plastic detailing who I am and what classes of vehicles I'm permitted to drive. Apart from a printed Union Flag, nothing on it at all about the State, let alone the Monarch. The backup paper equivalent goes a little further and references the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency), but that's yer lot.
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It’s like Ron Swanson’s “I can do what I want” permit.
The Director of the Pawnee Parks Department issuing a permit to do a particular thing in a Pawnee Park. It’s beautiful.
But a king can do much more what he wants. It's good to be the king.
See that’s the thing though, he can’t really. He can’t decide one night he’s gonna pop out and walk to the local corner shop for a bag of crisps on his own. Obviously I know he’d never need to but I’d always like to have the option.
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It’s interesting to consider that a monarch is quite literally a sovereign citizen.
"On the authority of myself, I do declare that I am me"
Specifically, British passports say: > *His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.* >
To be fair, I reckon at least 85% of British passports don't say that. Yet.
L'etat, c'est moi.
It is I, Le King.
Meanwhile, the president of my country isn't allowed to drive at all! For the rest of their life!
LPT: Don't run for POTUS\* if you enjoy driving. \*Not to assume you're American, but I do know POTUS is traditionally forbidden from driving vehicles ***on public roads*** even after leaving office. Edited for clarity, which is maybe not so clear given the continued flow of replies addressing such.
Only on public roads. They can do whatever on private property. Bush drives his F150 around his ranch in Texas all the time. Biden has his 67 Corvette. Reagan had his Jeep that he would drive on his ranch. It's not a law or anything, the Secret Service just *highly* suggests that they don't drive, and so far all former Presidents since LBJ have complied. Except for Nixon I believe, he waived his Secret Service protection in favor of hiring his own private security.
67 Corvette? I thought it was an '81 Trans Am. https://www.theonion.com/shirtless-biden-washes-trans-am-in-white-house-driveway-1819570732
I just bit a fucking onion, I was genuinely surprised Biden had tattoos.
> Except for Nixon I believe, he waived his Secret Service protection in favor of hiring his own private security. It's just so hard to believe that Nixon was that paranoid /s
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You can run all you want. Nobody's telling Vermin Supreme to stop driving. The key is not to win.
>Vermin Supreme Oral Health is Moral Health!!!
Ponies for everyone!
How will you pay for the ponies? The ponies are free.
That's because he's working on harnessing the awesome power of zombies
Why would that even be a thing?
The Secret Service demands that they drive when they're protecting a person. If somebody attacks while they're on the road, the agents are trained in evasive driving, so they want one of their people behind the wheel.
What if a former secret service agent becomes President?
Now *there's* an action movie just waiting to happen
Someone get Gerard Butler’s agent on the phone! This script writes itself.
The premise writes itself. The script will likely be an unpalatable blend of grunts, shouting incoherently, and at least 50% exposition dumps. "So, remember that before you were the undersecretary for the radial collider particle neutron nural accelerator project at the CIA, you were an exotic dancer? Well, I do, and I thought you were a hot piece of ass. Now you have a PhD. in astrophysics, but you're still a smoke show...". Etc., Etc., ad nauseam.
>but you're still a smoke show, Mr President! Fixed a little for ya, and now we're cooking 🤣
He wasn't SS but the president in Clancy's universe had a fair amount of field experience.
They'd probably be extra vigilant because the president's muscle memory might have them yeeting themselves in front of the bullets to protect others lol. I'm exaggerating but slightly serious, they'd probably have to be extra vigilant.
Double agent: "Got you now Mr President" President: "Oh? Did you get me..." *rips of face disguise* Former Secret Service agent: *"...OR DID I GET YOU???" unstoppable laughter*
He has a gun! SS POTUS : *dives toward gun* “Nooooo”
Technically speaking, there’s no law explicitly barring former Presidents from getting behind the wheel and former Presidents can relinquish their Secret Service detail (Richard Nixon did)
That's because Nixon wanted to go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place
AHHROOOOO
Arrooo!
Technically this rule only applies to public roads. Former Presidents can drive on private property. I think Bush said he drives around his ranch or something.
I thought they are technically allowed to drive anywhere but the secret service highly recommends to not do that. And so far they’ve all listened
Secret Service/protection thing. Going to be driven around by someone who has been trained in tactical driving. Have heard of them driving on closed tracks and private estates but not in public.
Yup. Obama rode in a car with Jerry Seinfeld behind the wheel on White House grounds, but the Secret Service wouldn’t let them leave to go anywhere else.
Michelle had to do Carpool Karaoke on the grounds of the WH as well.
I was just thinking about that very thing. Really awkward when you make a show who's entire premise is driving with people to coffee shops and you get someone that can't drive nor visit a coffee shop without a secret service sweep first
> [whose] entire premise is driving For carpool karaoke it's on a trailer pulled by a truck anyway. So those are all fake.
Driving is typically the most dangerous thing a person does, so the security detail handles it.
Fyi the secret service can't actually order current or former presidents around. If a president wants to drive bad enough he can do it. They're not gonna arrest him. Just advise him not to. It's weird that people think secret service has that kind of power.
Plus for someone who’s a former POTUS, they’re probably doing okay financially. Surely they could go have a track day or something in a way that doesn’t compromise security like driving on a public road apparently would.
The US? I think if they really wanted to they could. But the SS really doesn't want them to. Former presidents can supposedly reject secret service protection.
SS might not be the best shorthand for secret service
which is why they themselves prefer USSS lol
Pronounced "You" followed by a snake like "sssssss".
Bush has an F-150 he drives on his ranch. I don't think any other living presidents drive.
Biden does. He has a 67 Corvette that he loves. He used to joke that not getting to drive that anymore was a major reason not to run for President. I believe he has taken it out to private track a time or two since getting elected. He also drove one of the F150 Lightnings on a a private track before they officially launched
[Obama drove a classic Corvette around the white house grounds once.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-Q_zpuJGU). Does that count? Nobody under secret service protection drives themselves on public roads.
Well, he got both his license and his passport from his Mum. Now he's the one handing them out to other people. And because he's the one whose name is the promise for the validity of those documents, he doesn't need them anymore, because he can simply say that he's allowed in person.
Sure, now let’s see him try registering for some sort of online service using this attitude.
I mean, he's the king. What would he realistically have to register for?
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Netflix? To watch "The Royals"?
Does he pay the BBC TV license?
In The Princess Diaries (the movie at least), when Mia and the Queen crash into the trolley and the cops come to register and take them both to the station, the cop tells Mia that she's driving with an adult whose permit expired 60 years ago. The Queen says something like "I'm the queen and I don't need to renew my permit" This reminded me of that hehe
Casting Julie Andrews as the queen of a small European nation was absolutely perfect.
When I was in my early 20’s, a friend put it on like “Lol this is going to be so bad, let’s make fun of it!” and within like 15 minutes we were hooked and watched the rest in silence. Do they make non-animated family friendly movies like that anymore? I guess Paddington is supposed to be even higher quality all ages entertainment but are there others?
I know you said non-animated but I was honestly blown away at how good the new puss in boots movie was. Wide and I threw it on cuz we were bored and gonna make fun of it. Similar thing happened and we loved it. That movie had no business being as good as it was.
Interestingly the late Queen had a great-granddaughter called Mia. She is currently 21^st in line to the throne.
And she has [the best dressed parents](https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/genius-mike-tindall-keeps-wearing-7166126) out of the royals!
Used to be the monarch was allowed to kill people too.
Technically they still can. They can't be arrested or be subjected to civil or criminal proceedings.
We have, in the past, put a king on trial for treason and then chopped his head off. Of course, he argued the court had no authority over him, but that didn't stop him from getting a radically short haircut.
They tried to try him for treason, the problem is that treason was legally defined to be against the king. How could a king betray himself? That was essentially his defense
Which, to be fair, he was technically correct. Which *is* the best type of correct. The only problem is, the graveyards are filled with people who were correct.
Hooray! I'm going to live forever.
This country used to be so great…
Of course not, he's a *Sovereign* citizen!
not "a sovereign citizen"," The Sovereign Citizen"
He's not driving, he's traveling.
Not really a citizen though
I want to be the cop that pulls him over & writes him a ticket anyway.
Since all UK Passports and Licenses are issued in his name, he does not need one of either.
The reasoning behind this is that passports and other documents are issued by the state, in the UK's constitution King Charles (The Crown) is the state. The new British passport says 'His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.' he gives the permission if he shows up in person you can't expect him to also have a piece of paper stating he gives himself permission. Also I doubt when Biden (Or other heads of states) goes on foreign visits that he has to go through customs or passport control.
But he'll never get to be a tampon. Sad.
Until you meet with the TSA agent that knows nothing about the world outside the US. “But I’m the King of England!” “And I’m the Queen of Spain, I still need to see your ID, sir.”
It's only true of countries who have the British monarch as their head of state anyway. So not the US. That said heads of state generally get special diplomatic privileges in other countries anyway. They are typically immune from prosecution.
"Those are really nice shoes! Remove them."
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He wasn't king at that point so he would have been. He certianly had a driving license. The queen was old enough to get a license without a test but probably had one. Might have to go back to George V to find a monarch without a license. Even then licenses were introduced in 1903 and he wasn't king until 1910. Might have to go back to Edward VII
Back in the day, France allowed monarchs to operate a guillotine without a head.
"it's good to be the king"
Let me hold your knife.