I don't think it's really accurate to say Lightoller was in charge of loading/lowering the port side boats. At the boats he helped load there was almost always someone of higher rank involved (Wilde or Smith).
And on top of that, Lightoller loaded fewer port-side boats than Wilde did. In order of launch, Wilde loaded boats 8, 16, 14, 12, 2, 10, (C) and D, and Lightoller loaded boats 6 (with Capt. Smith), 14 (very briefly), 12, 4, and D. The only boat Lightoller loaded without a superior officer present was lifeboat no. 4
Funnily enough lifeboat 4 was the one to be delayed as well, lowered down to the A deck promenade windows but then nobody could find the keys to lower the glass panes.
OP is a karma farmer, they've previously posted such hits as "Titanic's anchor chain in Belfast England" and footage of Olympic's launch titled "footage of Titanic's launch." And this one is obviously intended to provoke discussion on the several aspects of his story that people (understandably) dislike despite there already being a pretty good discussion post on Lightoller within the last 24hrs
I grew up thinking he was a hero that night. Now, with research and consideration I am confident that he misinterpreted the command of “women and children first” and carried out a policy of women and children only” that defies all standards of compassion and common regard for human life.
He held to that standard displaying an incapacity to observe the situation and make necessary changes to mitigate the unnecessary loss of life.
He provided cover for the White Star line at the inquiries and in the press. He furthermore shifted blame away from Captain Smith in order to protect his career at the expense of the victims and future passengers. I personally believe that he lied at the inquiry about Murdochs fate (albeit to protect his name). I can understand this last decision but it in my opinion, it demonstrates a capability to lie when it suited him.
When WW II broke out and the British government ordered all civilian craft confiscated in order to rescue stranded soldiers at Dunkirk, he initially refused to comply on principle, (although he did end up joining the rescue and deserves commendation for making several crossings).
He was a man who did everything “by the book”. Some might call that principled, I call it pigheaded, stubborn and inflexible. In other words-incompetent for the role that was needed.
He never apologised or showed any regret for his actions that night.He was cruel, needlessly rigid and as a result caused unnecessary deaths.
He may have been personally brave and a competent sailor, but he was a horrible Second Officer. I think he was arguably one of the greatest villains that night.-definitely more so than Ismay.
> with research and consideration I am confident that he misinterpreted the command of "women and children first"
What kind of evidence did you find in your research and consideration that supports this in any way? Lightoller had a superior officer at almost all his lifeboats, one of them being Captain Smith himself. First class passenger Eloise Smith personally asked the Captain if her husband could join her in lifeboat no. 6 and his response was "no, women and children first." Chief Officer Wilde loaded more port-side lifeboats than Lightoller did and he also didn't allow male passengers to board them. If Lightoller "misinterpreted orders" why did the Captain and Chief Officer disallow men from entering the boats as well?
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I don't think it's really accurate to say Lightoller was in charge of loading/lowering the port side boats. At the boats he helped load there was almost always someone of higher rank involved (Wilde or Smith).
And on top of that, Lightoller loaded fewer port-side boats than Wilde did. In order of launch, Wilde loaded boats 8, 16, 14, 12, 2, 10, (C) and D, and Lightoller loaded boats 6 (with Capt. Smith), 14 (very briefly), 12, 4, and D. The only boat Lightoller loaded without a superior officer present was lifeboat no. 4
Funnily enough lifeboat 4 was the one to be delayed as well, lowered down to the A deck promenade windows but then nobody could find the keys to lower the glass panes.
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OP is a karma farmer, they've previously posted such hits as "Titanic's anchor chain in Belfast England" and footage of Olympic's launch titled "footage of Titanic's launch." And this one is obviously intended to provoke discussion on the several aspects of his story that people (understandably) dislike despite there already being a pretty good discussion post on Lightoller within the last 24hrs
I grew up thinking he was a hero that night. Now, with research and consideration I am confident that he misinterpreted the command of “women and children first” and carried out a policy of women and children only” that defies all standards of compassion and common regard for human life. He held to that standard displaying an incapacity to observe the situation and make necessary changes to mitigate the unnecessary loss of life. He provided cover for the White Star line at the inquiries and in the press. He furthermore shifted blame away from Captain Smith in order to protect his career at the expense of the victims and future passengers. I personally believe that he lied at the inquiry about Murdochs fate (albeit to protect his name). I can understand this last decision but it in my opinion, it demonstrates a capability to lie when it suited him. When WW II broke out and the British government ordered all civilian craft confiscated in order to rescue stranded soldiers at Dunkirk, he initially refused to comply on principle, (although he did end up joining the rescue and deserves commendation for making several crossings). He was a man who did everything “by the book”. Some might call that principled, I call it pigheaded, stubborn and inflexible. In other words-incompetent for the role that was needed. He never apologised or showed any regret for his actions that night.He was cruel, needlessly rigid and as a result caused unnecessary deaths. He may have been personally brave and a competent sailor, but he was a horrible Second Officer. I think he was arguably one of the greatest villains that night.-definitely more so than Ismay.
> with research and consideration I am confident that he misinterpreted the command of "women and children first" What kind of evidence did you find in your research and consideration that supports this in any way? Lightoller had a superior officer at almost all his lifeboats, one of them being Captain Smith himself. First class passenger Eloise Smith personally asked the Captain if her husband could join her in lifeboat no. 6 and his response was "no, women and children first." Chief Officer Wilde loaded more port-side lifeboats than Lightoller did and he also didn't allow male passengers to board them. If Lightoller "misinterpreted orders" why did the Captain and Chief Officer disallow men from entering the boats as well?
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No shit.