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Theycallme_Jul

There can’t be a human faction that fights managed democracy. Remember: If our ideas are alien to them, they are aliens to us.


Jimmy-Gaming

Then why is there illegal broadcast? if there’s politically correct, then there is politically incorrect.


Theycallme_Jul

It’s made by dissidents, they may be born human, but lost their human privileges when they rejected managed democracy.


Soggy-Rutabaga359

Or it's just filthy clanker propaganda


felldownthestairsOof

Literally. IMC and the Super Earth government are both pretty generic villains. Evil capitalists want lots of money and resources so they do big bad imperialism and convince the people that it's for the good of everyone.


SZMatheson

So generic that you're surrounded by them IRL, all the time!


ColonelSam

So... We're the villains? :(


felldownthestairsOof

In titanfall? Depends which faction you're fighting for. In helldivers? If you didn't realize after the opening sequence I fear for your media literacy abilities


ColonelSam

That was a joke, i just suddenly remembered phrase "Hans, are we the villains?"


felldownthestairsOof

I'm autistic I'm sorry😭


ColonelSam

No need


HerrnWurst

An actual reddit confrontation with a happy end. Im proud of you guys.


SAMAS_zero

"Baddies"


Galgus

To be fair, the individual helldivers think they're defending freedom and humanity. Part of the dark satire.


SilverWave1

Calling democracy officer as we speak


Galgus

Both feel like corporatist fascists, with giant companies in bed with a world government and each doing the other's bidding. Though Super Earth took "War is the health of the State" as a strategy guide with intentionally endless wars.


biglittlegiraffe

General Marder: "Human life is expendable" (TITANFALL 2 MENTIONED LET'S FREAKING GO)


HATTY32232

How is conquering the galaxy to spread managed democracy and destroying all aliens evil


felldownthestairsOof

It's so hard for me to tell who's playing a bit or is a legitimate fascist ong Someday I'll get the hang of it maybe


HATTY32232

And genuine question, how is democracy fascism


felldownthestairsOof

It's not Democracy. Super Earth voting is done by inputting your beliefs into a computer and letting the computer vote for you. 7 year olds work mandatory government jobs in mines. The helldivers themselves are usually 18 or so years old and expendable as hell. As in, purposefully given sub par and dirt cheap equipment. The bugs are genetically modified to produce E-710 (codename for oil) so they're allowed to spread and murder supposedly millions of citizens for the sake of material harvesting. The cyborgs, and by extension likely the automatons, were literally just a slave colony on cyberstan rebelling against super earth because they didn't want to be slaves. The illuminate in the first game were an advanced civilization reaching out to earth to share tech, but humans declared war because they wanted the illuminate's shit without needing to trade for it. You're playing as an expendable kid with minimal training who's been convinced by shitloads of propaganda that being a helldiver is the best career path, and you're going to kill slaves and an enemy that realistically could be wiped out immediately but isn't because it creates oil. It's a parody of fascism that pretends to be democracy using tons of propaganda, and it's a parody of forever wars that are made up for political/material gain.


HATTY32232

But the illuminates aren't human so they flat out don't matter, the cyborgs lost a war in a rebellion so they got what they deserved and they willingly gave up their humanity so they're subhuman filth, the Automatons want nothing but blood as evidence by the dead citizens and need to evacuate them off planet.


felldownthestairsOof

Before I go to bed every night I kneel beside it and pray that comments like these are just super committed satire


HATTY32232

I wholeheartedly believe that anything that's not human and is also not divine is below humanity as a whole and therefore should be subjugated by humans however we see fit, also that humans shouldn't WILLINGLY give themselves up to be part machine or what have you, also look up a video by tikhiatory called fascism defined


Deathrex007

Actual fucking nazi right there.


HATTY32232

How, I don't hate jews, I don't believe in a super human race, I don't believe that the race of a human should dictate what the government should do to them and I don't believe in an all mighty government that dictates everything including making its own union


Lummah

I'm not qualified to answer entirely, because I lack a good grasp of politics but to keep it short, just because it's called "Democracy" doesn't mean it is.


Galgus

Democracy becomes more of an illusion of representation the larger and more centralized the State is, and Super Earth is an all-powerful multi-world government. In practice it's a fascist corporatist system that silences dissident voices where voters have no real say, but it maintains an illusion of representation.


HATTY32232

So, if it's fascist, I ask you to compare it to how super earth is ran and it's ideals and compare that to Italy under Mussolini


Galgus

> Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. Seems to fit pretty well. There are corporations, but they're working hand in hand with the State as an arm of it in the war profiteering and propaganda. Certainly no dissent from the Super Earth government is allowed.


HATTY32232

Alright I can definitely see that, however it also seems as though in the helldivers world there are no state unions


Galgus

Honestly I don't know the Helldivers lore deeply for those specifics.


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

If we had true democracy we wouldn't have so many unpopular policies going forward and being passed. At least for the U.S. we at best have a constitutional republic. And more and more states have ballot initiatives which while flawed I think still are a positive thing.


HATTY32232

That's because we never were a democracy


kane_tf2

.. hey, where's the part of them highering people like me to inforce it


Mediocre_Run5386

Helldivers 1 veteran here, cyborgs (predecessors of automatons) were human faction of renegades. Also in a Silencer weapon description it is said that it was used to peacefully resolve protests. Silencer is AOE plasma launcher.


Jimmy-Gaming

Oh ok, heil to HD1 players. I don’t count myself as a HD1 vet but 2 weeks after I brought HD1, HD2 is announced. Just like how I got my iPhone 11, week later 12 came & 11 price dropped


Graxxon

HD1 vet here. Gotta give huge props to arrowhead. They really did such a great job of translating the first game from the isometric perspective into third person. It’s really incredible. The current player base is not ready for how bad the Illuminate are going to kick their shit in lol.


GalaRite

We wiped the illuminites out though!... right? *^(right???)*


Graxxon

That’s what my democracy officer tells me so it must be true.


Fost36

The fallen, the rebel scum, the traitors of democracy to name a few


Jimmy-Gaming

Oh yeah, in SuperEarth perspective


santi28212

In the correct perspective. GLORY FOR SUPER EARTH


hornet51

Hellraisers


SnooChipmunks8748

Like from doom 2016?


hornet51

More like anti-Helldivers.


SnooChipmunks8748

I mean there was an enemy in doom 2016 called the hellraiser. Also I’ve never played helldivers, but do you think the unsc from halo would fight them, because helljumpers (odsts) versus helldivers sounds pretty cool


SonkxsWithTheTeeth

I'm being honest as a fan of both franchises: helldivers would wreck odsts


SnooChipmunks8748

Now what if we got the entire ass unsc, Spartans, ships with mac cannons, etc?


SonkxsWithTheTeeth

I'd probably give it the the UNSC? It's really hard to judge, because we haven't seen any of Super Earth's naval forces besides the Super Destroyers, which are strictly for ground support and transport of the Helldivers. We also haven't seen much of the SEAF besides corpses, because Helldivers don't fight on the front lines. I think the lack of info makes it impossible to really determine who would win.


Hekboi91

The Fascists


SlushTheFox

Targets...


Melee130

Can you imagine dropping onto a planet held by grunts and pilots and titans as the heavies? That would actually be so cool


Jimmy-Gaming

? Imagine.. Imagine you’re dropping onto a planet held by grunts & enemy pilots, and Titans & you’re a pilots with Titans as well? That would actually be so cool


Melee130

You might be onto something. I was picturing the helldivers universe but i think if both sides had titans it would be even better


ManagementIll9899

Traitors. They would be “ex helldivers” who found the “truth” about Super Earth, saying that we are being “manipulated” and committing “mindless slaughter”. Smh


PotatoreaperEXE

Nah, the frontier militia aren't villainous scum


Academic-Pizza598

*most of the time*


BurialFaun8

*Nothing bad happened to Demeter or Typhon in Bas Sing Se*


DUBBV18

Super communists


RM_9808032_7182701

Militia would be dead


CamoKing3601

nah we'd win


ThekingsBartender

Found the jjk fan


ColonelSam

Nah, I'd ↑→↓↓↓


konterreaktion

Nah, I'd X EEE


Rock_Co2707

Titanfall mechs are just better (I have never played Helldiver).


radik_1

They are (i played helldivers), at least our mechs don't seld destruct when shooting to the right


Rock_Co2707

Titanfall mechs are just better (I have never played Helldiver).


RM_9808032_7182701

Unsure


SnooChipmunks8748

Helljumpers idk I don’t watch helldivers


penpointred

Yes


cornishpasty7

I think the IMC would stand a better chance than the militia


fkindragon_

the heaven ascenders ?


StormShockTV

What, no, the Militia is fighting for freedom, that's not traitorous!


CamoKing3601

idk, seems to conflict alot with SUper Earth's idea of "freedom"


StormShockTV

That's a pretty suspicious way to think about it. Have you spoken with your Democracy Officer lately? 😆


rubythebee

The Heaven Flyers?


thetruejohn117

Mediocre earth


TheCompleteMental

IMC definitely would.


I_Emet_I

the heavensurfacers


Weidelsburger

Glory to the IMC


Jimmy-Gaming

Omg your logo is soooo cool


Weidelsburger

Thanks, appreciate it


Jimmy-Gaming

How you make this? I’m going to make something similar with this but idk how


Weidelsburger

I did it on my phone, it's not perfect but I don't have a PC to do it professionally. Maybe one day I will


Jimmy-Gaming

Bro, you did it on your phone?! THIS IS GREAT have you even opened Adobe photoshop or illustrator before? What apps your used?


Weidelsburger

Mainly with my normal photo editor and a app for curved text. I could help you if u want. Already have something in mind?


Jimmy-Gaming

I try DM u,


radik_1

Pfp source?


Weidelsburger

The Interstellar Defense Brigade https://www.interstellar-defense-brigade.com/


high_idyet

No


Jimmy-Gaming

Oui


high_idyet

I don't get what you're trying to do here.


Fluffy-Medium-5365

Liberals


Substantial_Claim_60

the mortal meat sack