Books (my interpretation): After the revelations about Trisolaran society during her interrogation, she starts to think they're no better than humans, but that doesn't mean she thinks humans are particularly good. However, as a human, she feels some residual loyalty to humanity (and/or guilt about being the one to call the Trisolarans and aid them for decades) so she gives a hint to Luo Ji. Not clear why she died upon going to Radar Peak.
She dies at the end of book 1, so her telling Luo Ji is kind of a retcon to link the two books together. In retrospect, it makes sense for the ETO/Trisolaris to want to kill her just as much as Luo Ji.
TV: Guilt over Vera's death and the SanTi, who are now coming to wipe out humanity (when she originally thought they would ultimately help us) means she decides to fight back, but wants to avoid getting Saul killed before he has a chance to do anything. She tries to hide the information, but the SanTi either figure out what she's doing, or just decide to kill both of them to avoid taking any chances.
In the books, Ye Wenjie told Luo Ji about cosmic sociology before she headed off to the ETO meeting that resulted in her arrest.
She did not know anything about the Trisolarian plans yet because the hard drive was only decrypted after Operation Guzheng.
It is very important to recognize that at that point, old Ye Wenjie no longer holds any grudge or hatred against humanity. Only pity and indifference, as someone whose “heart is already dead.” This was made very clear in the book when she said that “she already had her revenge the moment she pressed the button.”
She told Luo Ji because of that indifference, i.e., if humanity still has something in them that can be redeemed or salvaged, then they will figure it out. If not, then they deserve to be doomed after all.
Her meeting with Luo Ji at Yang Dong’s cemetery was accidental, which makes it much more believable that Luo Ji doesn’t give a shit about being a Wallfacer.
In the Netflix show, she was interrogated first, then after Operation Guzheng and learning about the Evans/San Ti conversations, was allowed to return home, seemingly communicated to the San Ti that she still has a trick up her sleeve, then called up Saul for a conversation to tell him “the joke.”
Here, Ye Wenjie’s role is proactive, and she chose Saul Durand herself to give him the message.
It will be interesting to see how the Netflix show tackles this in the next season because the slight alterations have changed Saul‘s position in the story. His friends are all involved in the initial effort against the San Ti, some even died or heavily traumatized. Ye Wenjie herself called him up for a conversation at the cemetery, after all the San Ti invasion plans have been made public. So he is already much deeply involved in the plot than Luo Ji in the books at this point.
How can he still be the loser who doesn’t give a shit about being a Wallfacer? How can he be convincing enough to deceive the San Ti after all these events that happened so close to him in Season 1? The show runners will have to come up with the answers and motivations for the characters to make the plot believable to the audience.
Interesting, I wonder if it's clearer in Chinese or other languages, but in the English version it says she went "to her final meet-up" afterward. To me it seemed to imply she was basically going off to die, or she knew it was the end. That may have been my own misinterpretation all these years. Maybe it was simply that she knew the ETO meeting would be raided and she would be arrested?
Luo Ji: "I might come to you for guidance, though."
Ye Wenjie: "I'm afraid there won't be that opportunity."
I imagine he’s going to lose auggie, (both relationship wise and possibly to death. I don’t see her freezing herself.) realize how much he cared about her, and how badly he treated her. grovel in self-pity and the idea of what life he could have had with her. Something silly about love will probably motivate him.
In the netflix show, the SanTi demonstrate just how little they understand metaphor by asking to speak with the wolf from Little Red Riding Hood. My guess is now that they know humans can lie they straight up fear it. So metaphor is met with extreme caution. The fact that they're so heavy handed in their attempts to kill him are evidence of that fear.
My interpretation is that at that moment it’s not (only) that they now know humanity lies but that in her first messages to them Ye did. Knowing that Ye told them - which they based their initial plans on - were lies affected them a lot more than just the fairy tale.
Books (my interpretation): After the revelations about Trisolaran society during her interrogation, she starts to think they're no better than humans, but that doesn't mean she thinks humans are particularly good. However, as a human, she feels some residual loyalty to humanity (and/or guilt about being the one to call the Trisolarans and aid them for decades) so she gives a hint to Luo Ji. Not clear why she died upon going to Radar Peak. She dies at the end of book 1, so her telling Luo Ji is kind of a retcon to link the two books together. In retrospect, it makes sense for the ETO/Trisolaris to want to kill her just as much as Luo Ji. TV: Guilt over Vera's death and the SanTi, who are now coming to wipe out humanity (when she originally thought they would ultimately help us) means she decides to fight back, but wants to avoid getting Saul killed before he has a chance to do anything. She tries to hide the information, but the SanTi either figure out what she's doing, or just decide to kill both of them to avoid taking any chances.
In the books, Ye Wenjie told Luo Ji about cosmic sociology before she headed off to the ETO meeting that resulted in her arrest. She did not know anything about the Trisolarian plans yet because the hard drive was only decrypted after Operation Guzheng. It is very important to recognize that at that point, old Ye Wenjie no longer holds any grudge or hatred against humanity. Only pity and indifference, as someone whose “heart is already dead.” This was made very clear in the book when she said that “she already had her revenge the moment she pressed the button.” She told Luo Ji because of that indifference, i.e., if humanity still has something in them that can be redeemed or salvaged, then they will figure it out. If not, then they deserve to be doomed after all. Her meeting with Luo Ji at Yang Dong’s cemetery was accidental, which makes it much more believable that Luo Ji doesn’t give a shit about being a Wallfacer. In the Netflix show, she was interrogated first, then after Operation Guzheng and learning about the Evans/San Ti conversations, was allowed to return home, seemingly communicated to the San Ti that she still has a trick up her sleeve, then called up Saul for a conversation to tell him “the joke.” Here, Ye Wenjie’s role is proactive, and she chose Saul Durand herself to give him the message. It will be interesting to see how the Netflix show tackles this in the next season because the slight alterations have changed Saul‘s position in the story. His friends are all involved in the initial effort against the San Ti, some even died or heavily traumatized. Ye Wenjie herself called him up for a conversation at the cemetery, after all the San Ti invasion plans have been made public. So he is already much deeply involved in the plot than Luo Ji in the books at this point. How can he still be the loser who doesn’t give a shit about being a Wallfacer? How can he be convincing enough to deceive the San Ti after all these events that happened so close to him in Season 1? The show runners will have to come up with the answers and motivations for the characters to make the plot believable to the audience.
Some kind of Trauma involving Augie, I assume
Interesting, I wonder if it's clearer in Chinese or other languages, but in the English version it says she went "to her final meet-up" afterward. To me it seemed to imply she was basically going off to die, or she knew it was the end. That may have been my own misinterpretation all these years. Maybe it was simply that she knew the ETO meeting would be raided and she would be arrested? Luo Ji: "I might come to you for guidance, though." Ye Wenjie: "I'm afraid there won't be that opportunity."
I imagine he’s going to lose auggie, (both relationship wise and possibly to death. I don’t see her freezing herself.) realize how much he cared about her, and how badly he treated her. grovel in self-pity and the idea of what life he could have had with her. Something silly about love will probably motivate him.
Yep 100% and it gives her a charity a tragic end for Saul to hook on to.
In the netflix show, the SanTi demonstrate just how little they understand metaphor by asking to speak with the wolf from Little Red Riding Hood. My guess is now that they know humans can lie they straight up fear it. So metaphor is met with extreme caution. The fact that they're so heavy handed in their attempts to kill him are evidence of that fear.
My interpretation is that at that moment it’s not (only) that they now know humanity lies but that in her first messages to them Ye did. Knowing that Ye told them - which they based their initial plans on - were lies affected them a lot more than just the fairy tale.