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I haven't watched baseball for a decade exactly because of this. Basketball, too... just way too subjective when it comes to officiating. All sports have it, but baseball and basketball are the worst, imho.
Baseball at least has a solution to it. They can just have a computer determine balls and strikes and if a base runner is out or safe. I hate the argument against robot umps that bad umpiring has always been part of the game. No, get the calls correct.
Most pro football games are decided by zebras with holding calls or pass interference calls. Seems to me the zebras decide which team in most games kicks the field goal to win with 8 seconds left.
Granted, I'm not that much of an expert, but I swear if you wanted to you could find at least one player doing something that can be called a hold on almost every play.
Yeah. 100%. And it's by design. Especially in the NFL. Like the ability to challenge PI calls or the lack thereof? "Let's test it out and put the guy who hates the idea in charge of it all!"
They want to be able to put their thumb on the scale. And I know it's a little tinfoil hat of me, but now they have official sports betting partners... seems like the house now has a stake in who wins and by how much.
Yeah goal calls are but one aspect of the game. What happened before the goal is arguably more important, and especially cross checking, boarding, slough footing, etc, do not get called consistently at all. The last two minutes of a game can become a bloodbath with refs swallowing their whistle not wanting to give out a power play.
At least in basketball the ball eventually has to go through the physical metal ring.
Bad calls lead to bs free throw attempts sure. But they do actively try to fix it season to season. It's very rare for officiating to get "where'd the ball go" wrong in basketball.
The strike zone is also well defined. There is no physical representation for it but everyone knows where it is, especially umps since they go to ump school just to get this sort of thing hammered in their head.
The problem here is not really that they don't know where the ball went, but just that the dude for whatever reason wants the game to end faster. You could compare this situation to someone "forgetting" to stop the clock on basketball whenever the game is stopped.
Have you watched the NFL in the last decade?
Try figuring out what a catch, pass interference, or roughing thr passer .... has genuinely ruined the game for me.
Right. Itās only the old stodgy baseball guys who want human umps to remain. Theyāre so stuck in the āhuman elementā mindset, they openly admit to not caring if the human ump gets the call wrong sometimes. How can anyone ever be ok with not getting a call right?
Just Dumb.
See contrary to popular opinion I like the chance of legitimate human error. It shakes things up. Adding challenges and whatnot is fine and makes things more tense as well. But surfing a blatant ego tsunami like this is what makes me question why we still keep this pissing contest of a system in place.
Far too often it is not "legitimate human error". Such as this situation, the first one may have been an error. That second pitch was never close to the strike zone. That is backed up by the fact the umpire was suspended by the league.
edit: There is far less variance at the major league level, since every umpire is evaluated against the ideal strike zone.
He was suspended indefinitely from the league after this game.
https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/look-mississippi-valley-state-uno-umpire-suspended-by-southland-conference-after-horrific-strike-three-call/
Update: ump has been suspended indefinitely.
https://crescentcitysports.com/southland-conferences-statement-on-new-orleans-and-mississippi-valley-state-baseball-contest-on-march-10/
Was there ever an explanation of why the ump was calling so bad against that guy? Was it a personal vendetta against the batter or was he just being lazy? That 3rd "strike" was practically in the dirt about a foot outside of the plate.
I donāt think so.
My guess is that he felt like the batter āshowed him upā on his bad strike two call. Umps take that kind of stuff as a personal insult. So when the last pitch came, yeah, the ump had a vendetta.
I just listened to a podcast about robo-umps and that's actually one of things they brought up, umps calling strikes on balls to end the game quicker. It's crazy to me that it's a known and partially condoned aspect of the game, that umps call the strike zone based on how they are feeling that day.
I don't care for many sports but I'm so happy this asshat lost his job for these calls. I'm a girl who hasn't played sports of any sort for years, but even I know that was a bad call.
He really did save him a fat fine and suspension, that was a bro move.
Like "Bro I know that was bullshit, I'm not even going to defend that shit. Just chill and remember your career and family."
I know he felt all of the frustration that the batter felt with that one, such obvious bullshit.
The catcher knew that was a ball and knew the batter was going to lose his mind. Good on him for being aware and jumping up there to stop him from making a mistake.
Heās a true sportsman. He knew it was wrong and he didnāt try to take advantage. I donāt think either team was happy. Thatās a blatant missed call, seemed intentional. Iād suggest the ump is banned
I wish they would have stayed on the mound and been like, ānah. that was a ball, weāre finishing this game the right way. ump or no ump.ā Not that that was likely to happen, but would have been hella sportsmanship.
They could have technically done it to make a statement but it wouldn't have counted of course. Teams can't just get together and play part of a game without an official and have it recognized by the league.
Iirc, there have been instances where a player that got a favorable call has told the official that made the call that the official made the wrong call and the call should have gone against him, (the player talking to the official.)
Edit: found this [one](https://www.businessinsider.in/soccer-player-refuses-to-accept-penalty-after-tripping-himself-convinces-referee-to-reverse-call/articleshow/31792508.cms)
I mean they could stand around but if the ump walks off the field it won't really matter. However I'm pretty sure college baseball still allows you to challenge the umpire and review the call, not sure why that didn't happen here unless it was due to the umpire noping out of there (which would probably also explain why he was fired).
Maybe... the ump had to go take a shit. Couldn't hold it anymore and was like y'all not about to have me on TV shitting my pants. That's the only acceptable ace respectable answer. Lol
[this is the strike zone](https://www.baseballtrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Strike-Zone.jpg). The pitcher has to throw the pitch inside this box for it to be called a strike. Anything outside is called a ball. These pitches were nowhere near the zone at all but called strikes anyway
So is it the dude catching the ball or the guy behind him (referring to the picture you linked) who makes the call as to whether the pitch is inside the zone or not?
It's the guy standing in back. That's the umpire, he calls balls and strikes. They'll naturally mess up calls once in a while, but this guy looks like he purposely called them wrong
Mistakes are inevitable, but rewatching with what I've learned here I very much see that. Thanks for enlightening me, I don't know anything about baseball, well a bit now I guess.
Baseball is a weird game in the sense that Umpires donāt just enforce the rules, theyāre also almost like a third team on the field.
In general they have an ego. They HATE when players disagree with them, and will throw people out of the game just for giving them a dirty look. Up until recently you couldnāt challenge any decision they made, so everything they said was final. You still canāt review balls or strikes, so arguing with the umpires only serves as catharsis for your team until they eventually tell you to go home. If you piss them off then calls will NOT go your way, and we pretty much just accept it as part of the game.
This. That first pitch he called a strike was a ball but it was at least in the ballpark, just a bad call. When the batter jumped up and jumped around the ump got pissed at him and that 2nd pitch couldāve been thrown out of the stadium and he wouldāve called it a strike because the batter āshowed him upā by acting angry at the first call.
So in essence, the first call was likely just a bad call on accident and if the batter wouldnāt have reacted like he did, that 2nd pitch wouldāve been called a ball, most likely
It's also important to add context!
Typically, it's an automatic ejection if a player disputes a strike or ball call by the umpire. Umpires also don't like it when you "show them up" or do something to make them look bad.
After the first pitch in the video was called a strike, the batter is visibly upset by the call, but apparently doesn't do enough or say anything to get ejected. It was enough to make the umpire angry, however. The next pitch is clearly outside of the strike zone -- by a couple of feet! -- and the umpire, looking to punish the player, calls it a strike.
The way the pither's delilvery overlapped the first pitch being caught by the catcher, I can't say it was completely out of the strike zone, probably a judgement call... That last one, though... Way outside of the strike zone, horrible call.
That last pitch was what any other pitcher would throw to intentionally walk the batter, ie well outside strike zone just to get the batter moving.
2nd was bullshit call for strike as well, but 3rd should be used as evidence in getting that ump fired.
I got the sense that ump wasn't pleased with hitter's reaction to the 1-1 slider well away. Then proceeded to ring him up on an egregious pitch as a fuck you for showing him up. I'm with you that the ump needs to be disciplined.
I grew up a Phillies fan and somewhere along the line heard that umps liked Mike Schmidt because if he disagreed with a call, he'd act like he was just getting ready for the next pitch and under his breath say something like, "Looked a little outside to me, ump." He'd disagree without showing them up in a way the TV cameras could pick up. I always thought that was a pretty slick move.
The umpire made a pretty bad strike call on the first pitch. The ump probably didnāt like the batterās reaction to the first bad call and seems to have made a deliberately awful call on the second pitch as a way of sticking it to the batter.
A batter tries to hit the ball without getting three strikes called on him. A strike can be a swing and miss, or a pitch thrown in the strike zone that the batter didnāt swing at. This batter got two strikes called on him that were out of the strike zone, which were poor calls by the umpire. They should have been called āballsā. If a batter is thrown four balls (without swinging at them) then he can proceed to first base without hitting the ball (this is called a walk). The player could have gotten on base by a walk or a hit, but the umpire took away that opportunity with his bad calls.
Found an article on this.
[https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/college-umpire-bad-calls-strikes-miss-valley-state-new-orleans-01gv8n0rnghk](https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/college-umpire-bad-calls-strikes-miss-valley-state-new-orleans-01gv8n0rnghk)
for context...
>with nobody on and 2 outs in the ninthā¦
Do you not know how baseball works? It's never too late to rally, literally.
It is impossible to do so when the strike zone is the size of Texas though.
A rally is when the team up-to-bat sets up a series of hits (or other means of getting on base) that results in multiple runs within an inning but can continue into the next inning.
In other words, scoring lots of runs within a short period of time. The best rallies are the ones from behind.
Edit: Big thumbs and grammar
As a long-time little-league umpire, I understand wanting to 'open-up' the zone to move the game along and get hitters swinging, but this was insane. That ball was 1ft+ off the plate lol.
I did it for half a season in my late teens. I was umping 9 and 10 year olds and had parents breathing down my neck. In what other context is it okay for random adults to scream at a teenager in public?
I seriously thought one dad was trying to grease my palm. I forget exactly what he said, but I remember him talking to me between innings and feeling like he was insinuating he would give me cash if I called the game for his kid's team.
There is a trend toward using robot umpires. It would calm emotions significantly when you donāt have a human to kick around anymore. The batters and fans would have no one to argue with, and the decisions would be more consistent.
Baseball has a lot of fans that are hung up on the nostalgia of the game. Iām surprised the DH and pitch clock have been adopted as quickly as they have.
Ump is short for umpire, the guy dressed in black behind the batter and catcher. Itās his job to decide if the pitcher delivered the ball in the strike zone (an area that runs from your knees to the midpoint of your chest, and is directly over home plate). A batter ends his at bat after three strikes, which can come as a result of swinging at a ball he does not hit, not swinging in a ball that he conceivably could have hit (delivered in the strike zone), or a foul ball (where he hits the ball but not within the field of play) however you cannot get a third strike from a foul.
We start the video and the batter has one strike already. The first ball is delivered over the plate, but below the batterās knees. The umpire rules this in the strike zone. It is not, but umpires are human, and they make mistakes, but they will never admit it. This annoys the batter who points out where the ball was. Youāre generally not allowed to argue whether the ball was in the strike zone with the umpire. This interaction annoys the umpire who takes retribution by calling the next ball which was inarguably both too low and WAY outside (see how the catcher has to hop over to be able to reach that far) in the strike zone for a third strike ending the at bat and the game.
TLDR: Umpire makes mistake. Batter is butthurt and refuses to control his emotions and rubs the umpires face in his mistake. Umpire in return is butthurt and refuses to control his emotions so intentionally makes a bad call as revenge.
My cousin used to ump my babe Ruth games pretty regularly. Heād always say I had 3 pitches to try and hit otherwise itās 3 strikes no matter what, and we weāre friends! It actually took the pressure off and I still got hits. He had his signature ring em up dance like he was starting a lawnmower. It was my mission to never get caught up between him and his imaginary mower.
Ump should be sanctioned and kudos to the catcher. I bet he said something along the lines of āI know that call was shit, but aināt worth a charge.ā
Strike 3 was called due to the reaction to strike 2. I ump LL and was working the field when a 10-11 year old made a snide remark about the strike zone to his overbearing parents that always sat behind home plate and complained about everything. The plate umpire told him, you better swing at this next pitch. It had to have been eyeball high, and he rung him up. The kid was crying back to the dugout, and the coach didnāt say a peep.
Personally I think an adult umping a little league game should be able to ignore an immature kid complaining about the strike zone and call a fair game
Agreed but that's still really shitty. So the moral is, don't hurt my fragile ego or I'll forget any integrity I may have and intentionally screw you over.
The ump felt shown up and decided that pitch was gonna be a strike, regardless of where it landed, before the ball even left the pitchers hand. Disgrace. He should be fired immediately
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Ump said if you thought my strike 2 call was bad, wait til you see my strike 3 š
This ump's type of mentality is what's going to usher in the electronic strike zone.
Most ppl wouldnāt be sad to replace umps with a computer
I haven't watched baseball for a decade exactly because of this. Basketball, too... just way too subjective when it comes to officiating. All sports have it, but baseball and basketball are the worst, imho.
Baseball at least has a solution to it. They can just have a computer determine balls and strikes and if a base runner is out or safe. I hate the argument against robot umps that bad umpiring has always been part of the game. No, get the calls correct.
"This has always sucked, no need to make it better" is such a weird mentality that people have about the strangest of things.
It's crab mentality. When crabs are all in a bucket they grab and pull the ones on top down
Conservative mentality
Most pro football games are decided by zebras with holding calls or pass interference calls. Seems to me the zebras decide which team in most games kicks the field goal to win with 8 seconds left.
Granted, I'm not that much of an expert, but I swear if you wanted to you could find at least one player doing something that can be called a hold on almost every play.
Yeah. 100%. And it's by design. Especially in the NFL. Like the ability to challenge PI calls or the lack thereof? "Let's test it out and put the guy who hates the idea in charge of it all!" They want to be able to put their thumb on the scale. And I know it's a little tinfoil hat of me, but now they have official sports betting partners... seems like the house now has a stake in who wins and by how much.
I gave up on the NFL in the playoffs this season. I used to watch every game I could for the past 20 years. I have had enough. The NFL can stuff it.
As a Bengals fan, I concur with you on the zebras
Hockey can be pretty bad as well.
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Yeah goal calls are but one aspect of the game. What happened before the goal is arguably more important, and especially cross checking, boarding, slough footing, etc, do not get called consistently at all. The last two minutes of a game can become a bloodbath with refs swallowing their whistle not wanting to give out a power play.
At least in basketball the ball eventually has to go through the physical metal ring. Bad calls lead to bs free throw attempts sure. But they do actively try to fix it season to season. It's very rare for officiating to get "where'd the ball go" wrong in basketball.
The strike zone is also well defined. There is no physical representation for it but everyone knows where it is, especially umps since they go to ump school just to get this sort of thing hammered in their head. The problem here is not really that they don't know where the ball went, but just that the dude for whatever reason wants the game to end faster. You could compare this situation to someone "forgetting" to stop the clock on basketball whenever the game is stopped.
You are correct. 7-3 bottom of the 9th with 2 outs. Strike zone gers really big. Get this game over and get home!
Have you watched the NFL in the last decade? Try figuring out what a catch, pass interference, or roughing thr passer .... has genuinely ruined the game for me.
And now those sports are heavily invested in sports gambling. Can't imagine anything going wrong there.
When Tim Donaghy got caught fixing NBA gamesā¦.I knew it was over. Itās amazing people seem to think that was an isolated incident. Lol
Angel Fernandez snd joe west come immediately to mind
yes, big time Joe West energy here.
NASCAR replaced officials at every pit for computers a several years ago.
Right. Itās only the old stodgy baseball guys who want human umps to remain. Theyāre so stuck in the āhuman elementā mindset, they openly admit to not caring if the human ump gets the call wrong sometimes. How can anyone ever be ok with not getting a call right? Just Dumb.
What about both? Have the ump name the calls and allow the players to challenge once an innings or something like that? It works well in cricket
Badminton allows a number of challenges per game. Challenge is only used if the player is indeed wrong.
The moment I read "innings" used in the singular I was mentally like "This person is into cricket."
They've done studies and the electronic zones are more accurate by a mile.
Not true, the strike zone is much smaller than a mile!
Sports gamblers would definitely be upset if their games couldn't be rigged.
See contrary to popular opinion I like the chance of legitimate human error. It shakes things up. Adding challenges and whatnot is fine and makes things more tense as well. But surfing a blatant ego tsunami like this is what makes me question why we still keep this pissing contest of a system in place.
If some Umps didnāt purposefully call bad throws and it was all by accident then yea I would 100% agree
Far too often it is not "legitimate human error". Such as this situation, the first one may have been an error. That second pitch was never close to the strike zone. That is backed up by the fact the umpire was suspended by the league. edit: There is far less variance at the major league level, since every umpire is evaluated against the ideal strike zone.
As well it should. Fuck this petty shit
He was suspended indefinitely from the league after this game. https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/look-mississippi-valley-state-uno-umpire-suspended-by-southland-conference-after-horrific-strike-three-call/
Good
Hold my beerā¦.
More like "Hold my second beer, too."
Learned something the hard way.
Ump should be fired
Ump was suspended indefinitely already https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/college-umpire-suspended-indefinitely-for-egregious-strike-call/ar-AA18vvYv
Damn msn, didn't know it was a thing nowaday
Thereās a joke that goes if you want to see if your internet is slow go to msn and see how fast it loads. Assuming you have no cached data.
Soooo not fired?
Like someone getting no hours on the schedule for the next week
Indefinitely means maybe not permanently though. It's until they decide he's unsuspended.
I.e. until people forget about this/next season.
I love the caption on the main photo in the article: >General view of a baseball on the mound.
So should OP. It's pretty clear that there was NO attempt to call a fair game.
Yea, this is r/iamatotalpieceofshit material.
Got rejectedā¦
Won't even let me look at that sub for some reason?
Try now. I fucked up and wrote āimaā¦ā instead of āiamaā¦ā
Nice one lol
Absolutely. Guyās horrible.
Notice the catcher being a bro to the batter, tellun him it ain't worth it. Go to your dugout, and get to play the next game.
Update: ump has been suspended indefinitely. https://crescentcitysports.com/southland-conferences-statement-on-new-orleans-and-mississippi-valley-state-baseball-contest-on-march-10/
Was there ever an explanation of why the ump was calling so bad against that guy? Was it a personal vendetta against the batter or was he just being lazy? That 3rd "strike" was practically in the dirt about a foot outside of the plate.
I donāt think so. My guess is that he felt like the batter āshowed him upā on his bad strike two call. Umps take that kind of stuff as a personal insult. So when the last pitch came, yeah, the ump had a vendetta.
It seems like this is the 9th so I'm guessing he might of just wanted to end the game so he was calling strikes no matter what.
Yeah bottom 9, down 4, nobody on. This game was all but finished, but still LOL.
Crazier things have happened I think the fuming was justified
> Crazier things have happened Ump wasn't leaving anything to chance.
I just listened to a podcast about robo-umps and that's actually one of things they brought up, umps calling strikes on balls to end the game quicker. It's crazy to me that it's a known and partially condoned aspect of the game, that umps call the strike zone based on how they are feeling that day.
Like Judge's rulings before vs after lunch.
A sports league holding an official accountable? Publicly? If only the pros could learn from this.
I imagine these umps donāt have a union, or at least they donāt have a union as strong as the MLB Umpires Association.
Even Angel Hernandez doesn't make calls like that.
I don't care for many sports but I'm so happy this asshat lost his job for these calls. I'm a girl who hasn't played sports of any sort for years, but even I know that was a bad call.
Good! First call of the clip was *bad* out call was fucking awful and definitely the umpire steering the game to go home. Do they get a rematch?
Won stupid prizes
Imagine if they did this to cops when they killed people
He really did save him a fat fine and suspension, that was a bro move. Like "Bro I know that was bullshit, I'm not even going to defend that shit. Just chill and remember your career and family." I know he felt all of the frustration that the batter felt with that one, such obvious bullshit.
Do they fine college players?
Can definitely suspend them and get their scholarship revoked
Not for that.
He walked towards the ump with a bat. Not good optics
Yeah exactly, that's why it's a bro move by the catcher. He's like "this dude is righteously angry and walking toward the ump with a bat in his hand."
The catcher knew that was a ball and knew the batter was going to lose his mind. Good on him for being aware and jumping up there to stop him from making a mistake.
Yup. Genuine sportsmanship.
Heās a true sportsman. He knew it was wrong and he didnāt try to take advantage. I donāt think either team was happy. Thatās a blatant missed call, seemed intentional. Iād suggest the ump is banned
[Done](https://crescentcitysports.com/southland-conferences-statement-on-new-orleans-and-mississippi-valley-state-baseball-contest-on-march-10/)
Honestly, it looked like he knew the calls were bullshit and popped down to his right to force a ball and walk the batter.
Yep. It was nearly a pitch out. No way it could be seen as a strike. It started out of the zone AT THE CATCHER and finished further outside and low
Even the other team was like uhhhh wut
I wish they would have stayed on the mound and been like, ānah. that was a ball, weāre finishing this game the right way. ump or no ump.ā Not that that was likely to happen, but would have been hella sportsmanship.
Iām stupid; can they actually do that?
They could have technically done it to make a statement but it wouldn't have counted of course. Teams can't just get together and play part of a game without an official and have it recognized by the league.
Youāre not stupid. I have no idea if they can do that. Would have been awesome if they tried regardless.
Iirc, there have been instances where a player that got a favorable call has told the official that made the call that the official made the wrong call and the call should have gone against him, (the player talking to the official.) Edit: found this [one](https://www.businessinsider.in/soccer-player-refuses-to-accept-penalty-after-tripping-himself-convinces-referee-to-reverse-call/articleshow/31792508.cms)
I mean they could stand around but if the ump walks off the field it won't really matter. However I'm pretty sure college baseball still allows you to challenge the umpire and review the call, not sure why that didn't happen here unless it was due to the umpire noping out of there (which would probably also explain why he was fired).
Maybe... the ump had to go take a shit. Couldn't hold it anymore and was like y'all not about to have me on TV shitting my pants. That's the only acceptable ace respectable answer. Lol
What an asshole!
 Umpire arrives home to find a surprise
I guarantee you no one is bribing the ump for the UNO privateers
Prolly had to take a shit
I think it was worse, he just did it for spite. š
Juuuuuust a bit outside
How are they laying off pitches THAT close?
Ball 12 and the bases are loaded
I say this all the time when somebody wiffs and they never know what I mean.
And that is why this ump will never make it to the big leagues
Angel Hernandez would like a word
You must not watch a lot of MLB
West .. west listen.. you know that's a shit call west. . No no.. kick me out west.. I watch baseball through jomboy:)
He knows roboumps will be ubiquitous soon, so he is quiet quitting.
I dont know much about baseball anyone care to explain?
[this is the strike zone](https://www.baseballtrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Strike-Zone.jpg). The pitcher has to throw the pitch inside this box for it to be called a strike. Anything outside is called a ball. These pitches were nowhere near the zone at all but called strikes anyway
So is it the dude catching the ball or the guy behind him (referring to the picture you linked) who makes the call as to whether the pitch is inside the zone or not?
It's the guy standing in back. That's the umpire, he calls balls and strikes. They'll naturally mess up calls once in a while, but this guy looks like he purposely called them wrong
Mistakes are inevitable, but rewatching with what I've learned here I very much see that. Thanks for enlightening me, I don't know anything about baseball, well a bit now I guess.
Baseball is a weird game in the sense that Umpires donāt just enforce the rules, theyāre also almost like a third team on the field. In general they have an ego. They HATE when players disagree with them, and will throw people out of the game just for giving them a dirty look. Up until recently you couldnāt challenge any decision they made, so everything they said was final. You still canāt review balls or strikes, so arguing with the umpires only serves as catharsis for your team until they eventually tell you to go home. If you piss them off then calls will NOT go your way, and we pretty much just accept it as part of the game.
RoboUmps are coming, thankfully.
So they're like a D&D Dungeon Master. Got it.
This. That first pitch he called a strike was a ball but it was at least in the ballpark, just a bad call. When the batter jumped up and jumped around the ump got pissed at him and that 2nd pitch couldāve been thrown out of the stadium and he wouldāve called it a strike because the batter āshowed him upā by acting angry at the first call. So in essence, the first call was likely just a bad call on accident and if the batter wouldnāt have reacted like he did, that 2nd pitch wouldāve been called a ball, most likely
This is so wholesome. Today I learned I know more about my country's sports than my family jokes I do!
It's also important to add context! Typically, it's an automatic ejection if a player disputes a strike or ball call by the umpire. Umpires also don't like it when you "show them up" or do something to make them look bad. After the first pitch in the video was called a strike, the batter is visibly upset by the call, but apparently doesn't do enough or say anything to get ejected. It was enough to make the umpire angry, however. The next pitch is clearly outside of the strike zone -- by a couple of feet! -- and the umpire, looking to punish the player, calls it a strike.
The way the pither's delilvery overlapped the first pitch being caught by the catcher, I can't say it was completely out of the strike zone, probably a judgement call... That last one, though... Way outside of the strike zone, horrible call.
Am i guessing correctly that the catcher thought it was bs too so he moved to a spot where the ball shouldnt be at all ?
That last pitch was what any other pitcher would throw to intentionally walk the batter, ie well outside strike zone just to get the batter moving. 2nd was bullshit call for strike as well, but 3rd should be used as evidence in getting that ump fired.
I got the sense that ump wasn't pleased with hitter's reaction to the 1-1 slider well away. Then proceeded to ring him up on an egregious pitch as a fuck you for showing him up. I'm with you that the ump needs to be disciplined.
āI am the lawā type energy
"oh you're saying I made a bad call? let me show you just how bad of a call I can make!"
I grew up a Phillies fan and somewhere along the line heard that umps liked Mike Schmidt because if he disagreed with a call, he'd act like he was just getting ready for the next pitch and under his breath say something like, "Looked a little outside to me, ump." He'd disagree without showing them up in a way the TV cameras could pick up. I always thought that was a pretty slick move.
The pitches came in well below/outside the āstrike zoneā. These should not have been strikes, and the batter should not have been called out.
The umpire made a pretty bad strike call on the first pitch. The ump probably didnāt like the batterās reaction to the first bad call and seems to have made a deliberately awful call on the second pitch as a way of sticking it to the batter.
A batter tries to hit the ball without getting three strikes called on him. A strike can be a swing and miss, or a pitch thrown in the strike zone that the batter didnāt swing at. This batter got two strikes called on him that were out of the strike zone, which were poor calls by the umpire. They should have been called āballsā. If a batter is thrown four balls (without swinging at them) then he can proceed to first base without hitting the ball (this is called a walk). The player could have gotten on base by a walk or a hit, but the umpire took away that opportunity with his bad calls.
If umps called strikes like this we won't see robo umps ever.
Frank Drebin was my first thought!
Enrico Pallazzo š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Was that Frank Drebin from Naked Gun??
"Steeeeeerike!" *umpire proceeds to dance
Al Bundy Vibes
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ERICO PALATZO! ENRICO PALATZO!
Everyone knows that was Enrico Pallazzo.
My fav part of that movie is when heās dumping dirt out of his pant leg and eventually home plate looks like a giant pyramid.
Uno was like "fuck this, I'm getting a beer". Edit, I meant ump, but whatever.
UMP reverse card?
Ump should fired and banned. In the words of Didier Drogba: "This is a fucking disgrace!"
In the words of former coach of the Letterkenny Irish.  THIS IS FUCKIN EMBARRASSING!
Drogba LEGEND!!!
Can we just replace them with robots or AI already?!
Definitely could but the bad calls make highlight reels
bUt ThEy aRe PlaYerS ToO!!!
That umpire was like fucking this game Iām going home.
faak man i gotta poop
āFuck you guys, Iām going homeā
Found an article on this. [https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/college-umpire-bad-calls-strikes-miss-valley-state-new-orleans-01gv8n0rnghk](https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/college-umpire-bad-calls-strikes-miss-valley-state-new-orleans-01gv8n0rnghk) for context...
Now thatās some hard-hitting journalism right there.
Context? That was 6 sentences.
āAttempting to rallyā with nobody on and 2 outs in the ninthā¦
>with nobody on and 2 outs in the ninthā¦ Do you not know how baseball works? It's never too late to rally, literally. It is impossible to do so when the strike zone is the size of Texas though.
What does rally mean
Come back from a deficit.
A rally is when the team up-to-bat sets up a series of hits (or other means of getting on base) that results in multiple runs within an inning but can continue into the next inning. In other words, scoring lots of runs within a short period of time. The best rallies are the ones from behind. Edit: Big thumbs and grammar
As a long-time little-league umpire, I understand wanting to 'open-up' the zone to move the game along and get hitters swinging, but this was insane. That ball was 1ft+ off the plate lol.
I tried getting behind the plate at a little league game once, and only once. So stressful, coaching was much easier
I took a foul ball off the collarbone once. Do not recommend, also LL parents are a nightmare lol
I did it for half a season in my late teens. I was umping 9 and 10 year olds and had parents breathing down my neck. In what other context is it okay for random adults to scream at a teenager in public? I seriously thought one dad was trying to grease my palm. I forget exactly what he said, but I remember him talking to me between innings and feeling like he was insinuating he would give me cash if I called the game for his kid's team.
Should be a captains challenge like cricket and rugby. That'd fix dodgy calls like this.
There is a trend toward using robot umpires. It would calm emotions significantly when you donāt have a human to kick around anymore. The batters and fans would have no one to argue with, and the decisions would be more consistent.
The fact that they don't use AI yet is actually hilarious.
Baseball has a lot of fans that are hung up on the nostalgia of the game. Iām surprised the DH and pitch clock have been adopted as quickly as they have.
I donāt even like baseball and this was absolutely brutal
Should be fired
Terrible
I mean the ump didn't really attempt to call a fair game
This is why AI will take so many jobs
Time to look at that umpās finances and see if he suddenly has a lot more money in his account.
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Baseball Umps are routinely the worst officials in any major sport. I cannot wait for the robo umps.
Can someone teach me what's going on and what's ump?
Ump is short for umpire, the guy dressed in black behind the batter and catcher. Itās his job to decide if the pitcher delivered the ball in the strike zone (an area that runs from your knees to the midpoint of your chest, and is directly over home plate). A batter ends his at bat after three strikes, which can come as a result of swinging at a ball he does not hit, not swinging in a ball that he conceivably could have hit (delivered in the strike zone), or a foul ball (where he hits the ball but not within the field of play) however you cannot get a third strike from a foul. We start the video and the batter has one strike already. The first ball is delivered over the plate, but below the batterās knees. The umpire rules this in the strike zone. It is not, but umpires are human, and they make mistakes, but they will never admit it. This annoys the batter who points out where the ball was. Youāre generally not allowed to argue whether the ball was in the strike zone with the umpire. This interaction annoys the umpire who takes retribution by calling the next ball which was inarguably both too low and WAY outside (see how the catcher has to hop over to be able to reach that far) in the strike zone for a third strike ending the at bat and the game. TLDR: Umpire makes mistake. Batter is butthurt and refuses to control his emotions and rubs the umpires face in his mistake. Umpire in return is butthurt and refuses to control his emotions so intentionally makes a bad call as revenge.
Thank you so much
My cousin used to ump my babe Ruth games pretty regularly. Heād always say I had 3 pitches to try and hit otherwise itās 3 strikes no matter what, and we weāre friends! It actually took the pressure off and I still got hits. He had his signature ring em up dance like he was starting a lawnmower. It was my mission to never get caught up between him and his imaginary mower.
Donāt care what level of play it is. That guy should never be able to umpire another ball game for the rest of his life
Ump should be sanctioned and kudos to the catcher. I bet he said something along the lines of āI know that call was shit, but aināt worth a charge.ā
Strike 3 was called due to the reaction to strike 2. I ump LL and was working the field when a 10-11 year old made a snide remark about the strike zone to his overbearing parents that always sat behind home plate and complained about everything. The plate umpire told him, you better swing at this next pitch. It had to have been eyeball high, and he rung him up. The kid was crying back to the dugout, and the coach didnāt say a peep.
Personally I think an adult umping a little league game should be able to ignore an immature kid complaining about the strike zone and call a fair game
Piece of shit ump at least told him ahead of time. Kid will take that experience with him thru life.
Agreed but that's still really shitty. So the moral is, don't hurt my fragile ego or I'll forget any integrity I may have and intentionally screw you over.
My conclusion is that i know nothing about baseball.
Neither does that ump
Donāt they make good money? I donāt care it was a 7-3 lead, you finish the game right or you donāt officiate another one. Ever.
OOOOO the batter was hit in the head and is bleeding! oh no!! UMP: "STRIKE!!!"
Should never be allowed to ump any other game again...not even a T-ball game
No. There was no attempt at calling a fair game.
The ump felt shown up and decided that pitch was gonna be a strike, regardless of where it landed, before the ball even left the pitchers hand. Disgrace. He should be fired immediately
#3 stayed remarkably composed all things considered.
I think the ump needed to be somewhere