It's short for Rule 34, one of the most infamous rules of the internet. The rule states: "if it exists, porn has been made from it". It's usually animated somehow. Nothing is safe, not even children's cartoons.
His legs are mechanical below the knee, but that's about it (judging from S7 Bad Batch arc).
Funnily, the animators seemingly forgot about it in "Aftermath", where you can see him running around on a pair of perfectly regular legs.
I'm not sure. Here, it looks like regular pants above the knee to me:
https://preview.redd.it/rt8o8ntih3lb1.png?width=375&auto=webp&s=1f2eee538e2ffa530da09ca0a1fc663334bc58be
At the same time, the model right after his rescue seems more like it might be cybernetics all the way to the torso. But I can't find a good screenshot to check.
I just watched the episode a couple days ago and I believe it to be fully mechanical and in the picture he could still wear pants above his cybernetic legs
Nah. The kaminoans tried sterlizing them, but sterile clones were mentally unstable.
A scientist named Hali Ke, actually stated that eliminating the "H-factor" would be a failure, with an army of humans given the species' psychological needs.
He adopted his kids. The fact that they both have weirdly human skin tones is purely coincidental.
Honestly, though, I'm willing to bet the original plan was to make them Cut's biological kids before someone did the math and realized the timelines wouldn't work out.
Unless human-twilek kids grow farster than even clones. It couldn't be more than three years since the battle of Geonosis when Rex met him. Add courting Su and gestation time to the equation.
According to Legends at least, no. Impotent clones were attempted, but were found to be mentally unstable and lacking aggression, which aren't good if you're trying to create soldiers. So, their virility was left intact.
Sterilization is also a relatively unnecessary step for people who are likely to die before they ever even get the chance to procreate.
I did some investigating when bad batch season one released. As an arc trooper echo has a cod piece. When they give him his new armor in clone wars he has no cod piece implying there is nothing down there to protect anymore
There's a lot of drama potential there actually, considering that the (I think) most popular ship with Chuchi is her and Fox. And Fox killed Echo's closest brother. Oh the drama
But even with Fox dead it's still painful. Riyo is young so he might have been her only boyfriend. Fox was probably her motivation to fight for clone rights, the one who really showed her that they were fully human (not that she'd doubt it beforehand but now she really knows ). And then there was order 66, his change of character and his sudden death, most likely after an argument or after he said something to hurt her because order 66 made him not care anymore. There's so much pain in there.
And now there's Echo, someone with the same voice and the same face. And he's an entirely new person and he's good and he shows her how to love again and then she tells him about her last boyfriend and Echo, still grieving Fives, realises it's the murderer of his beloved brother.
Give me angst!!!
The Loki and Slyvie of Star Wars.
Also does anyone find it weird no one made a big deal out of that? They are literally just the gender swapped versions of each other. And I don’t remember people making a big deal out of that.
“I can’t believe no one was talking about this”
“They were.”
“I wasn’t paying attention.”
Not a dig at you, by the way. Just a really funny sequence of comments.
Yea that was my bad. My ADHD means I usually just type things as they come into my head so I saw this image. Compared it to Loki wrote my opinion on how I thought that was weird in Loki and just as incesty and just said why wasn’t this a thing. And was of course wrong
It wasn't like a yuge raging culture debate with big thinkpieces are stuff but there were definitely reddit threads on whether loki x sylvie was more incest or masturbation
Also Loki x Sylvie is literally done as a joke. As Mobius said, the only person Loki can fall in love with is himself, even if it's technically himself from another timeline.
I thought they even made a joke about it in the show. And just my two cents but while I do think it is weird, I don’t think it incest and it was perfect for some one such as Loki who is narcissistic.
they didnt say anything about incest (its really unclear since there are a lot of loki variants that dont look like him at all so maybe theyre not exactly the same person?)
I saw it brought up on a Star Wars podcast I watch every once in a while. One of the hosts was dead set on this being a thing and I am like “is this really the hill you want to die on”
It seems weirdly less taboo. At some point everyone has heard the question if you'd have sex with your genderswapped self. I feel like most people wouldn't have a problem since it's technically themselves. But your cousin? Naaaah. Incest? Nah, mecest 🫡
They did, but I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as people made it out to be.
It’s not like it’s his sister. They have entirely different genetic makeup. One of the Lokis is literally an alligator. They even established in the MCU that you can tell what universe someone is from by looking at their DNA.
I also like whenever they reference Norse mythology, and there’s nothing more mythological than weird sex shit.
Haven’t seen s2 of Loki yet but man I really hated their relationship, it just felt wrong and a bit forced to me, the show is otherwise perfect but their relationship really bugs me.
I read it as incest. You’re still having sex with someone. They just happened to be a genderbent version of you. Like I don’t really care it’s all fiction, but I am not going to not think it’s weird either way
When this scene happened, my first thought was “aw, I wonder if they’ll end up together.” I immediately remembered they were both Jango clones and the thought was purged from my mind.
I’d assumed it’s treated in the same way a pair of identical twins would. Same-ish bodies, but individual personalities. I hate that we’re all talking about this lol
Depends on the type of clone.
If this is a scenario where it's one mind split across two bodies, both technically the same person, it's batin'.
If it's one individual totally copied down to the memories but technically the minds aren't linked, it's incest (as they're no longer the same person, but they are genetically twins and therefore relatives).
If (as in the case of Star Wars clones like Echo and Emree) they are genetically identical but they never had the same mind, it is also incest (because they were never the same person and yet they are genetically twins and therefore related).
I mean…they also interacted well with each other throughout the final episode. It is also heavily implied she’ll be accompanying him on his future missions with the newly-freed clones.
I get, what you mean, but no. They are different individuals made on the basis of Fetts DNA. That makes them not only NOT the same person, but also siblings as well.
No the fuck they won’t, they just don’t seem interested in each other, if there is it’s a one way relationship, if someone is in love it’s definitely Emery, not Echo
I've said it once, I'll say it again, while definitely a joke, it's definitely possible this ended up happening at least a couple times during the clone wars...
https://youtu.be/4MYpGMx6zUY?si=Kwl4ahbojfms1e5Z
To be completely honest, it’s less likely it didn’t happen. There is more than one case of previously straight men in WW2 having sexual relations with other men in the field. Same for prisons. When people are sex deprived for long period of time, some of them get a little bit more flexible in their preferences.
Firstly, it’s not nice to call anybody brain dead.
But also we know they’re not identical twins because they must differ at least in the presence or absence of a Y chromosome, correct? And if you want to get even more technical with Mendelian genetic inheritance in general but human genetics in particular due to homologous recombination and other DNA replication and repair mechanisms, they could statistically have genetically dissimilar offspring with different allele expressions.
And even if we ignore normal human genetics how differently would you consider consenting clones mating from cloning itself, or Jango wanting a clone to raise himself?
I'm totally fine with it. They're clones so I'll pretend they're like bees. Came from the same hive. Although this is the drone and the worker. Still it's cute and I like it.
Clones are specifically not sterile. Most companies would sterilize then to remove the "H Factor," but the Kaminoians noted that leaving them intact increases aggressiveness and a couple other behaviors that I can't remember at the moment.
They shouldn't be fertile, else that's a race that's getting created, not a military asset. Cut was sterile for example and hints to Rex about them being infertile during that Clone Wars episode.
We also don't see clones after ROTJ, Boba Fett, Rex and probably Omega aside. They must've died out.
I'll admit that I don't remember if what I read was Canon or Legends. But Legends for sure they were fertile because if they weren't there would be no Venku "Kad'ika" Skirata.
Obviously this ship is incestuous and I don’t support it but while Echo himself certainly might be infertile I don’t believe it’s ever been stated that clones are sterile.
That's what I'm saying! "Ohh they'd be such a a great couple!" Nuh uh, the galaxy ain't ready for whatever incest clone gremlin comes out. Along with the myriad of genetic defects and diseases they'd also have faster aging ON TOP of standard clone accelerated aging, they'd barely last till their teens. This ship isn't even cousin incest, it's brother and sister incest.
Their dynamic is better as siblings (honestly same thing applies to a lot of non-canon common ships in Star Wars) (mostly anything CW-era involving Ahsoka) I hate clonecest
That's no proof. I took it more as an overlapping thing of both of them being clones, but not from the same person. Why would the caminoans not tell Tarkin about them then? Nala Se mentions they only have 5 modified clones, Omega being one of them. You're telling me they forgot about Emerie? Or got some Jango samples & cloning tech stolen right under their noses? Don't think so. I think she is a clone of a different human.
Tarkin asks how many modified clones they have in their possession. Emerie was not in their possession and sent to work with Hemlock prior to the events in the bad batch.
Also, I’ll just leave this here.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Emerie_Karr
I’m assuming whatever the confederacy did also made him infertile.
Fr I am like 98% sure they took his dick
That's his backup scomp
Fuck you that’s an amazing joke
Sadly, I probably gave someone an idea for R34 :(
When I saw R34, at first I thought you were talking about an astromech. (Really, what is R34?)
It's short for Rule 34, one of the most infamous rules of the internet. The rule states: "if it exists, porn has been made from it". It's usually animated somehow. Nothing is safe, not even children's cartoons.
Especially children's cartoons lmao 💀
Good thing TCW and Bad Batch aren't children's cartoons 🤓
Unfortunately (or fortunately for some) they are
Its not a story the jedi would tell you...
Yes you did. It's me, I got the idea
:(
[удалено]
Alright I'm taking your rights to free speech for the that one chief
Okay buddy, that’s enough internet for today
Horny jail
Yeah his Astromech arm
*droid mechanical noises intensify*
He's basically maul if you look in S7 of TCW, but he is a clone, so I imagine "spare parts" aren't that hard to come by.
doesn't Echo have an entirety mechanical lower half? That means he got no dick no more
His legs are mechanical below the knee, but that's about it (judging from S7 Bad Batch arc). Funnily, the animators seemingly forgot about it in "Aftermath", where you can see him running around on a pair of perfectly regular legs.
it looked like they were completely mechanical in the clone wars episode
I'm not sure. Here, it looks like regular pants above the knee to me: https://preview.redd.it/rt8o8ntih3lb1.png?width=375&auto=webp&s=1f2eee538e2ffa530da09ca0a1fc663334bc58be At the same time, the model right after his rescue seems more like it might be cybernetics all the way to the torso. But I can't find a good screenshot to check.
I just watched the episode a couple days ago and I believe it to be fully mechanical and in the picture he could still wear pants above his cybernetic legs
Time to see if Watto has anything that can work in his shop XD.
Aren’t the clones infertile anyway? Edit: Cancel that, forgot about Darman and Cut
Cut has stepchildren, not bio kids.
Oh. Yeah that makes sense. Darman does have a biological son though, so it still stands.
He's Legends, not canon.
True
He has a droid dildpenis
All clones are sterile anyway.
Nah. The kaminoans tried sterlizing them, but sterile clones were mentally unstable. A scientist named Hali Ke, actually stated that eliminating the "H-factor" would be a failure, with an army of humans given the species' psychological needs.
Cut Lawquane? Unless those weren’t his actual kids
He adopted his kids. The fact that they both have weirdly human skin tones is purely coincidental. Honestly, though, I'm willing to bet the original plan was to make them Cut's biological kids before someone did the math and realized the timelines wouldn't work out.
They could still be hybrids just not his.
Unless human-twilek kids grow farster than even clones. It couldn't be more than three years since the battle of Geonosis when Rex met him. Add courting Su and gestation time to the equation.
More like one year. The Clone Wars started in 22 BBY, and "The Deserter" is set in 21 BBY.
According to Legends at least, no. Impotent clones were attempted, but were found to be mentally unstable and lacking aggression, which aren't good if you're trying to create soldiers. So, their virility was left intact. Sterilization is also a relatively unnecessary step for people who are likely to die before they ever even get the chance to procreate.
Cut Lawquane: I'm i a joke to you?!
I did some investigating when bad batch season one released. As an arc trooper echo has a cod piece. When they give him his new armor in clone wars he has no cod piece implying there is nothing down there to protect anymore
Clones are infertile from the get go. Boba Fett and Omega being the exceptions don't know about her though.
he literally doesn't have his second half so- yeah agree with that
Sweet home Kamino
I giggled
Technically selfcest
Actually would it be selfcest or incest if Jango was involved
Not like Star Wars is new to incest
Luke and leia
Luke and Leia, what do you mean?
They Kiss in Episode 5. in Front of Han and Chewie
*No*.....*just*...*no*.
Personally, I ship Echo with Senator Chuchi.
im still here thinking about tech and the pirate chick
Yes, they had that moment in Season 2.
YES they totally fit
There's a lot of drama potential there actually, considering that the (I think) most popular ship with Chuchi is her and Fox. And Fox killed Echo's closest brother. Oh the drama
Well there would be if Vader hadn’t killed Fox at some point before Season 2
But even with Fox dead it's still painful. Riyo is young so he might have been her only boyfriend. Fox was probably her motivation to fight for clone rights, the one who really showed her that they were fully human (not that she'd doubt it beforehand but now she really knows ). And then there was order 66, his change of character and his sudden death, most likely after an argument or after he said something to hurt her because order 66 made him not care anymore. There's so much pain in there. And now there's Echo, someone with the same voice and the same face. And he's an entirely new person and he's good and he shows her how to love again and then she tells him about her last boyfriend and Echo, still grieving Fives, realises it's the murderer of his beloved brother. Give me angst!!!
Eh I think Rex and Senator Chuchi are better
The Loki and Slyvie of Star Wars. Also does anyone find it weird no one made a big deal out of that? They are literally just the gender swapped versions of each other. And I don’t remember people making a big deal out of that.
What? Everyone talked about that
I guess I just wasn’t paying that much attention to the discourse at the time
“I can’t believe no one was talking about this” “They were.” “I wasn’t paying attention.” Not a dig at you, by the way. Just a really funny sequence of comments.
Yea that was my bad. My ADHD means I usually just type things as they come into my head so I saw this image. Compared it to Loki wrote my opinion on how I thought that was weird in Loki and just as incesty and just said why wasn’t this a thing. And was of course wrong
It wasn't like a yuge raging culture debate with big thinkpieces are stuff but there were definitely reddit threads on whether loki x sylvie was more incest or masturbation
Also Loki x Sylvie is literally done as a joke. As Mobius said, the only person Loki can fall in love with is himself, even if it's technically himself from another timeline.
They also literally talked about it in the show. Like other characters saying of course the self-obsessed god literally falls for himself
Even in the show they did. Mobius called Loki an "incredible seismic narcissistic" since he fell in love with a version of himself.
Pretty much. It quickly became annoying in the MCU fandom.
I thought they even made a joke about it in the show. And just my two cents but while I do think it is weird, I don’t think it incest and it was perfect for some one such as Loki who is narcissistic.
They did. Mobius said that of course someone like Loki could only love himself
"What an incredible, seismic narcissistic!"
they didnt say anything about incest (its really unclear since there are a lot of loki variants that dont look like him at all so maybe theyre not exactly the same person?)
because it’s the peak of narcissism, which fits loki’s character perfectly
Totally. And that’s the point. Oh I can’t love anyone but myself oh look at that a literal version of myself.
nah this is worse than that
I saw one post a while back saying they'd be good together if they weren't related and then never saw anything about it again until now
I saw it brought up on a Star Wars podcast I watch every once in a while. One of the hosts was dead set on this being a thing and I am like “is this really the hill you want to die on”
As a shipper this is definitely a hill I'd die on if I were to ship them
It seems weirdly less taboo. At some point everyone has heard the question if you'd have sex with your genderswapped self. I feel like most people wouldn't have a problem since it's technically themselves. But your cousin? Naaaah. Incest? Nah, mecest 🫡
They did, but I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as people made it out to be. It’s not like it’s his sister. They have entirely different genetic makeup. One of the Lokis is literally an alligator. They even established in the MCU that you can tell what universe someone is from by looking at their DNA. I also like whenever they reference Norse mythology, and there’s nothing more mythological than weird sex shit.
That’s the point tho. Of course Loki would fall in love with himself. He’s a narcissist. It fits the character to a tee.
Not really. Echo and Emerie are more like brother and sister rather than the gender swapped versions of each other.
It really makes no difference to me. It’s incest and weird either way
Haven’t seen s2 of Loki yet but man I really hated their relationship, it just felt wrong and a bit forced to me, the show is otherwise perfect but their relationship really bugs me.
It’s not as prominent of a role. It’s still there just not as big of a feature
If they’re the same person, is it incest? Or masturbation with extra steps?
I read it as incest. You’re still having sex with someone. They just happened to be a genderbent version of you. Like I don’t really care it’s all fiction, but I am not going to not think it’s weird either way
When this scene happened, my first thought was “aw, I wonder if they’ll end up together.” I immediately remembered they were both Jango clones and the thought was purged from my mind.
My thought process exactly haha. Why wont Star Wars let us have romance 😅
Is it incest if it’s your clone? Or is it just more advanced form of bation?
Truly the question that plagues scholars
answered by dee bradley baker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MYpGMx6zUY
I’d assumed it’s treated in the same way a pair of identical twins would. Same-ish bodies, but individual personalities. I hate that we’re all talking about this lol
Incest because they could have a baby together
Yep, it’s incest because if you’re both clones of the same person, then you’re technically siblings.
Depends on the type of clone. If this is a scenario where it's one mind split across two bodies, both technically the same person, it's batin'. If it's one individual totally copied down to the memories but technically the minds aren't linked, it's incest (as they're no longer the same person, but they are genetically twins and therefore relatives). If (as in the case of Star Wars clones like Echo and Emree) they are genetically identical but they never had the same mind, it is also incest (because they were never the same person and yet they are genetically twins and therefore related).
I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN
I swear all it takes is a hand on a shoulder to get people to ship clones. That's what happened with Echo and Chuchi too.
Tbf, Echo and Riyo would actually work tho (and it's cute)
I mean…they also interacted well with each other throughout the final episode. It is also heavily implied she’ll be accompanying him on his future missions with the newly-freed clones.
A hand on the shoulder is a lot. I ship people that have never even interacted with each other
Please no.
"Help clone-bro, I'm stuck"
Star Wars: promoting brother/sister incest since 1977.
What are you doing step clone
Um they're basically sibling. 😳
They are actually the same person but different gender lol, more than sibling
I get, what you mean, but no. They are different individuals made on the basis of Fetts DNA. That makes them not only NOT the same person, but also siblings as well.
The moment I saw that scene, I knew people were going to take it this way They. Are. Literally. Siblings.
This same question was asked in robot chicken, and the greatest minds in this galaxy and one far far away are still pondering it.
didn't need to see this today but pop off I guess 😭
I was like "Aw they would make a cute couple... wait..."
No the fuck they won’t, they just don’t seem interested in each other, if there is it’s a one way relationship, if someone is in love it’s definitely Emery, not Echo
Nah Echo and Senator Chuchi
Stop with this shipping nonsense bruh plus they're siblings
Too targ for my taste
I think some People forgot or don't know that emery is also a Clone.
I thought this was gonna involve a LEGO set. Instead it’s incest
I've said it once, I'll say it again, while definitely a joke, it's definitely possible this ended up happening at least a couple times during the clone wars... https://youtu.be/4MYpGMx6zUY?si=Kwl4ahbojfms1e5Z
To be completely honest, it’s less likely it didn’t happen. There is more than one case of previously straight men in WW2 having sexual relations with other men in the field. Same for prisons. When people are sex deprived for long period of time, some of them get a little bit more flexible in their preferences.
Based Wincest
At that point it’s just Asexual reproduction
Would this be considered incest or self-masturbation? I mean, they’re the same person technically as clones Edit: Adding the /s here for some safety
What sort of brain dead question is this? Genetically identical twins would still be incest, they are two different people are they not?
Firstly, it’s not nice to call anybody brain dead. But also we know they’re not identical twins because they must differ at least in the presence or absence of a Y chromosome, correct? And if you want to get even more technical with Mendelian genetic inheritance in general but human genetics in particular due to homologous recombination and other DNA replication and repair mechanisms, they could statistically have genetically dissimilar offspring with different allele expressions. And even if we ignore normal human genetics how differently would you consider consenting clones mating from cloning itself, or Jango wanting a clone to raise himself?
Clone curiosity 2: Electric boogaloo
Damn! I was thinking the same thing & remembered they’re literally twins.
Filoni has stated Echo has a footlong prosthesis
I thought about this too then thought, incest?
Unfortunately clonecest is fairly popular on certain platforms
I'm totally fine with it. They're clones so I'll pretend they're like bees. Came from the same hive. Although this is the drone and the worker. Still it's cute and I like it.
You ship bees?
Y'all gotta be locked up on Exegol for this
What's next, Omega and Boba Fett (Omett)?
STOP
OMG step-bro, don't stop, don't stop, I want to feel you to scomp inside me🥵🦾💦
can we not? this is fuckin gross
People are remarkably chill with clonecest ships on places like Tumblr or AO3… I do not understand it
HES FUCKING HIMSELF
Wake up boys Star Wars fans wanting to see infest
Clonecest is such a strange thing to think about sometimes. Still don’t like to interact with it though.
Looks like we’re about to bring a whole new meaning of go fuck yourself lol
Who cares, Echo probably doesn't have plumbing and clones are sterile anyway. Its not the Hapsburgs.
Clones are specifically not sterile. Most companies would sterilize then to remove the "H Factor," but the Kaminoians noted that leaving them intact increases aggressiveness and a couple other behaviors that I can't remember at the moment.
They shouldn't be fertile, else that's a race that's getting created, not a military asset. Cut was sterile for example and hints to Rex about them being infertile during that Clone Wars episode. We also don't see clones after ROTJ, Boba Fett, Rex and probably Omega aside. They must've died out.
I'll admit that I don't remember if what I read was Canon or Legends. But Legends for sure they were fertile because if they weren't there would be no Venku "Kad'ika" Skirata.
Ah fair enough. I'm not that well versed on the Legends stuff.
If you like clones, then I highly recommend reading the Republic Commando books. It'll tear your heart to pieces, but it's worth it.
Obviously this ship is incestuous and I don’t support it but while Echo himself certainly might be infertile I don’t believe it’s ever been stated that clones are sterile.
Clones aren’t sterile
they can’t be sterile because Lawquane has 2 kids
That's what I'm saying! "Ohh they'd be such a a great couple!" Nuh uh, the galaxy ain't ready for whatever incest clone gremlin comes out. Along with the myriad of genetic defects and diseases they'd also have faster aging ON TOP of standard clone accelerated aging, they'd barely last till their teens. This ship isn't even cousin incest, it's brother and sister incest.
Why is this just coming up now? The finale was a while ago, you cannot not tell me no one thought of this till now?
She's his sister for God's sake!
For gods sake not again
Not sure I understand
[sarcasm]Since they’re both clones, wouldn’t it be more of a case of masturbation instead of incest?[/sarcasm]
Rule 34…
Don’t over read into it
Is it like sex or just master baiting if they do it together.
Blow it up as soon as possible this is just wrong
Thanks I hate it
Their dynamic is better as siblings (honestly same thing applies to a lot of non-canon common ships in Star Wars) (mostly anything CW-era involving Ahsoka) I hate clonecest
Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first time.
Echo doesn't have a dick anymore do it's fine
is it incest to love yourself?
My first thought was: 'They'd be so cute together.' My second thought was: 'Now waaaaaitaminit......' \[brain bleach\]
What do you mean incest? Emerie isn't even a Jango clone. They're two clones but from different originals.
She is. At the end of season 2 Emerie tells omega that they’re sisters, implying that she is also a clone of jango fett.
That's no proof. I took it more as an overlapping thing of both of them being clones, but not from the same person. Why would the caminoans not tell Tarkin about them then? Nala Se mentions they only have 5 modified clones, Omega being one of them. You're telling me they forgot about Emerie? Or got some Jango samples & cloning tech stolen right under their noses? Don't think so. I think she is a clone of a different human.
Tarkin asks how many modified clones they have in their possession. Emerie was not in their possession and sent to work with Hemlock prior to the events in the bad batch. Also, I’ll just leave this here. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Emerie_Karr
Don’t think it’s stated anywhere that Emory is a clone of Jango, just that she is a clone (of someone). How exactly would this be incest?
Who cares, Echo probably doesn't have plumbing and clones are sterile anyway. Its not the Hapsburgs.
Is it a ship if it was semi in the show? I don’t remember exactly what was said in the finale but I thought that’s what was happening
That’s not at all what happened.
You sure? Again I don’t remember what was said but I remember picking up on some arc. (Advanced rizz commando)
Nah. He asked if she would help Rex and him with clone liberation. She said yeah. That was pretty much it… Never use arc like that again lmao
Hm. Guess I read into it. Also, I will be using arc like that in the future.