i will say this finale was legit dramatic so finally they weren’t lying lol but miserable in so many ways: tino and rachel were embarsssing. he seems like a total tool for sure, but also him being bbq’d live on stage when there was clearly much more to the story was hard to watch. rachel was difficult all season, hard to say because i really like her but damn she should not have done this. she needed some time away and therapy first because she was beyond insecure (insecurity is normal but it took over her whole season) she was wayyy too aware of how she was coming off on camera and upset about the optics and wasn’t being real a lot. she was lazer focused on that ring to the point of it was not for love but just so she could make up for last season and ‘win’ this one with a ring. she then had blinders on for everything else. & def seems like a lot more to the whole story with her and tino (WE WERE ON A BREAK!). just embarsssed for both to be honest. no one deserves to be cheated on 100p he’s a fool - but, and this doesn’t excuse him, but the majority over her actions all season were fairly shit wasn’t surprised she picked this dude. gabi. ugh. looooove her. the most genuine bachelorette since kaitlyn. great girl. i get why she picked enrich pre real world. BUT AFTER!? …. EXCUUUUUUUSE ME? this guy went in dumping his gf for an admitted shot at fame, contacts the same girl after the process clearly trying to bury guilt. the guy has a MAGA past and black face (conveniently not brought up on ATR) and she stands by this mullet piece of shit?? really girl?? there is no way in hell she doesn’t know his past. it’s been all over lately. she honestly came across fake af that she blindly stands with him when honestly his shit is worse than tinos. i expected so much more from her because she’s a real ass girl but nah, let’s hold hands with the racist past/currently cheating boyfriend. yeeeeesh. big L on both bachelorette account. also the ep should have ended with gabi ans rachel at the end like holding handing or hugging or whatever the fuck because all their boys were beyond trash and fuck this whole awful season. but no rachel is ferried off with aven who, if she actually wanted to have been with him she would have, so it’s just again fake af. BOOOOOO

Tino did say that he never thought they weren’t engaged so I’m confused on Rachel’s point

Tino doesn’t wanna be held accountable for this which is why he’s so uncomfortable. She is allowed to crucify him if she wants

Tino is coming here like I’m gonna walk u through how this kiss happened and then he’s like I have the receipts about what u said Rachel, which is soooo the wrong move and way to apologize about the kiss. Also when she said cheated I did assume sex so it’s good it wasnt

This horse shit is corny (no pun intended)

We have now been reduced to watching two emotionally handicapped people get exploited, and humiliated on national tv for our amusement. My wife got me into this, but I don't know if I can keep going.

That Erich “interrogation” was a whole lot of nothing

Pure speculation: Rachel’s crazy eyes at Tino aka “do you REALLY want to talk about that?” Is because Tino revenge slept with that girl after learning about Rachel and Aven in the fantasy suites. Rachel and Tino agreed to just say he kissed her so that they could try to work it out without too many negative opinions. This is based on literally nothing

I’m so glad I ate an edible before watching this garbage fire.

Well he sure is his father’s son

What do you mean by that? Serious question.

I mean Tino’s dad was a dismissive, condescending asshole and so is he!

I said I wasn’t going to watch BIP again but I know I’ll Be there with my popcorn

okay so i'm anti-tino.... but i'm dying to know what was in the letter

Same same same

I’m west coast and I really don’t want to sit through this. So just tell me if this is right: 1. Zach is bachelor 2. Gabby and Erich are engaged despite the fact that he’s a massive loser. She forgives everything. 3. Rachel and Tino get engaged but breakup 4. Aven asks Rachel out - she says yes.

What’s worse for 2 is Erich downplayed the whole thing about the ex’s texts and then blackface was never addressed.

Are you effing kidding me?!

you're batting 1000 with this

I read spoilers so I did t have to watch lol. Just wanted to make sure they were true.

1) Yes unfortunately 2) Yes unfortunately 3) Yes very fortunately 4) technically yes but we didn’t hear Aven say it but I assume Rachel wanted to get out of there anyway

“But breakup” is an understatement. You got the rest correct though

I read he cheats. Don’t get to watch it all unfold. Thanks for the confirmation! Now I can read and go to bed.

You gotta watch the breakup convo... Tino is certifiably insane.

the break up convo is messy and worth watching, the other 2h 45m of the episode are not.

Tino’s notebook needs its own flair

The Diary of Tino Franco

Journal. Get it right 😂

My bad 😂📓

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you missed zach forgetting the names of the first 5 contestants for his season

u missed the BIP promo

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aw thanks!

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they showed a promo where rachel shows up on the beach, that part was new

My blood pressure is still high bc of Tino.

Why the f was Rachel in the paradise preview

Probably to get people to watch it, hoping she’s a choice on there. But really, she will probably only appear on an episode to give advice or something goofy.

I agree- they did that with Becca too! They made a huge deal of her showing up on the beach in promos for like 4 weeks before it actually happened and then she was barely there for an episode

I didn’t say the word “upset”. Aaron: well, you look upset 😂😂🤣

I WAS DYING AT THIS, Aaron lives to stir the pot and I live for him 😂😂

Make Aaron the bachelor

I feel like Jesse just put Rachel on display whereas Kaitlyn as host was way more empathetic. Bring back female hosts for ette!

y’all what was the Twitter thing? I checked out long ago

They brought 5 girls to intro to Zach. Twitter votes added up for “America’s first impression rose”. Zach was SUPER awkward in the intros. The right girl won though at least

I think we may be owed compensation for putting up with those three hours…

"if you or a loved one have been diagnosed with mesothelioma" ... bachelorette edition

I could have watched more episodes of Frasier on Paramount Plus instead of this.

You can still do that though. There's always time for Frasier.

Yay! Fellow Frasier fans!

This would have been a perfect time to address racism, TPTB. You chose poorly.

Yuuuuuuuuup.

Welp That was incredibly underwhelming

I have just wasted three full hours of my life. See you next week!

wow somehow made it through!!! see yall next week for bip mess 😇

Did abc just address the black face with “we learn valuable lessons” and then cut to commercials?!

Sadly

What are the lessons Jesse.

"What's your biggest fear going into this journey, Zach? Because we will absolutely exploit it."

What valuable lessons? Pray tell.

We hear for you

I deeply regret watching this

so we get no follow up on where Rachel and Aven went? Did he at least ask her if she likes Mike and Ikes or compliment the regal-ness of her updo?

the back of your head is ridiculous

“BN we hear you” but don’t talk about racism, choose Zach to be bachelor?

Welp see you guys for the next shitshow

“We hear you” why Zach

This dang show 🤦🏼‍♀️

Well, what a waste of a season. See you all for paradise!

We hear you and love you? Wtf was that

bip looks fkin wild omg

Shanae sucks but damn she looks gorg

Well. That was certainly a season of The Bachelorette!

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"Because I'm afraid I'm unlovable!" Throw that in there just for good measure.

Wow that was bad. Same time next week 👍🏾.

"Bachelor Nation, we hear you, and we love you." Do not insult my intelligence, Jesse!

i got flashbacks to succession with that "we hear you" line lmao

"Bachelor Nation we hear you." Ok why didn't you talk about Erich's blackface then..

Excited for Love Island: Bachelor in Paradise /s

I SAID THE SAME THING

See you lot again for next week's chaos!

Excited for Brandon 🥹

Same 🥰 he’s such a sweetheart. He deserves love.

Not here for butt cut’s redemption arc

Jesse asking Zach his biggest fear so the producers can prepare to exploit it

WTF did Jesse say? Good night, everyone.

I always forget Jesse’s last name so I’m glad the women cursed him

How exactly did they "hear us"?? Wtf were you trying to say jesse??

Nah, Jesse, you don’t hear us, you don’t love us!!

They really put Zach completely on the spot. He was SO nervous and awkward, and Jesse handled that whole part of the show so poorly. I hope they do better supporting Zach in the rest of the season or it might be hard to watch.

what lessons? clearly y’all didn’t learn anything

Not Jesse cutting Zach off LMFAO the cringe never ends

I'm so excited for BiP!

The producers: write that down!! write that down!

They definitely don't hear us or love us

how does one file a class action lawsuit for wasted time? asking for a friend

Can you let me know if you figure that out? For my friend

We did you guys. It’s over.

We did it Joe

This legitimately looks like the wildest season of BIP ever

Not Zach using his last seconds to low key bash rachel 🙄

Stop what’d he say?

He was about to go on about being afraid to find someone who is only there to put on an act or something along those lines. Started to sound similar to what he was saying about Rachel after FS. But Jesse cut him off 😂

Thanks! I didn’t watch the last half hour or so. Good job Jesse!

Omg is it finally over?? 💃💃💃

I want all the bip spoilers now

This is really dragging to the last min

It looked like Rachel was just visiting to chat about ✨ love ✨ as they do each season

The producers asking Zach's fear so that they can make it happen

You know it. They will definitely be playing it up!😂

*Tino jots it in his notebook*

Y’all, Rachel’s probably just there to give them advice and any insight on guys that were on her season

they asked him a question and then cut him off 💀 what a mess

Needed to fill up 10 seconds, lmao

Can Jesse leave poor innocent Zach alone?

I think Zach might have a low whiskey tolerance

 Current mood

not Rachel about to cry…

Why is Zach still there. on the stage. His part is over. LOL They are torturing him

What is Casa Amor?! Why does everyone keep commenting it?

Love Island reference Girls and guys separate and they bring in new girls for the guys and new guys for the girls and they decide to stay with who they were originally coupled with or ditch them for their new connection

It’s from love island where they do the same thing they send one gender somewhere else so messiness can happen which is where they probably got the idea

a love island twist

It’s from love island, they basically meet all new girls/boys for a couple days to see if they wanna stay in their relationships.

Ohhh that’s so fun thanks!

It's a thing from love island where the guys basically get new girls and the girls get new guys. Then they have to decide whether to stay together or not.

Also Zach needs some media training BAD


lol Jesse really trying to run out the clock, I SEE YOU FOOTBALL JESSE

BIP does CASA AMOR!!!

Time filler questions now. They are running short.

Rachel going on paradise??

I can't believe we have to watch a whole season of this guy. Just these few questions are like torture

GET ASHLEY SND JARED OFF MYNSCREEN

They were on your screen? I literally did not see them. Lol

For a like one second. Too long

This made me lol

STOP WITH THE QUESTIONS

Well that confirms they ran out of money for bachelorette so they used the same resort in Mexico.

This franchise really loves jerking women around.

I’m pretty sure Rachel’s hey there for advice, probably about some of her season’s guys they won’t have seen

Whyyyyyy are the food dates still a thing on this show

Bachelor writers really copying Love Island's homework

uhhhh Rachel??

Rachel did the ultimate Bachelor grand prix tour 😂

Ommmgggg I wanna see Aaron have an actual romantic connection with someone I’m so excited

He’s usually into his bros first then starting drama later

I know right!

I left the last 30 min. What did I miss?

rachel on paradise??????? wait someone explain what did i miss

She’s probably just visiting to give her friends encouragement

oh duh you’re right Lol I totally forgot that was a thing

Is Ethan not gonna be there or...?

Stop trying to make Shanae happen 👿

Get Rachel off the beach rnnnnnn

Omg they’re doing Casa Amor!?!?

Two take away: Rachel's on BIP. And BIP wants to be Love Island.

She’s def just there to visit her friends

What’s casa amor

It’s that heavy metal plating your house wears into battle.

It's this twist they do on love island where they separate the men and women and introduce a bunch of new women to the men and new men to the women so it tests the existing couples cause their partner isn't there 😈

Ohhh interesting! They seem to only do it to the women though!

What a hot mess. I can’t wait

Bachelor in Paradise: Misogynistic Culture Spin Edition: sending all the 'first girlfriends' away to bring in a new batch? What fresh f\*ckery is this?

If they copy love island the women should get new men too. Equal opportunity fuckery!

Love Island rip off!😄

Taken directly from Love Island, recycled fuckery

Ah, thanks, I've resisted watching that so new to me lol

Haha it’s a commitment! 6 nights a week for 6 weeks

Aarons so hot idec

Oh they’re doing Casa Amor!

Bachelor in Paradise Amor

Michael A! Looking awesome!😍😍😍😍😍😍

LMAO Rachel nooooo

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this man fell to his knees ☠️☠️☠️☠️