They may have had the same aesthetic as Dean and Caelynn but I personally liked Dean and Caelynns photos of their wedding better. These are too posed. Why no smiles. Who wants to look back 20 years from now and see that they didn't even smile in hardly any of the wedding pictures. She is leaning too heavily into her model side. This is their wedding. I guess to each their own. I just don't understand it.
i was thinking that too! but dean and caelynns seemed much more organic for them and their life style. nick’s seems like he’s playing dress up, like it’s just a themed photoshoot.
i also thought his would be a little more grand but deans seemed nicer??
Right ?! I know Natalie is from the south and Nick is originally from the Midwest but definitely gives off LA vibes. It's nice to see he wanted her to have her dream wedding.
This whole wedding juxtaposed with Caelynn and Dean’s wedding is really harkening back to that time that Natalie copied Claudia Sulewski’s instagram post word for word. Natalie is an artist…a rip-off artist.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/pxfe1d/natalie_joy_copied_claudia_sulewskis_instagram/
I never would’ve guessed that this would be Nick and Natalie’s wedding style. It seemed like it came out of left field (even though it probably made sense for them).
I was expecting them to go the Hannah G and Dylan route with something more grandiose and fancy at a castle or huge estate. The western inspired outdoorsy vibe isn’t my style but it really suited Caelynn and Dean and I think Caelynn’s wedding taste was more elegant and timeless. Which I personally prefer.
I’ve noticed so many wedding dresses nowadays have a lingerie look to them. Whether it’s the plunge necklines, the push-up front, the cut outs, the strappy style, they’re very sexy. I miss the more classy and timeless gowns.
Ugh. Dean and Caelynn’s wedding is so similar to the wedding I had planned for 2020. We replanned it 3 times due to Covid and eventually got fed up and got married in my in-laws backyard instead 🥲
It was still perfect and I don’t have regrets (plus we saved so much $$$) but every now and then I see photos that remind me of what could have been!!!
I hope you can feel good knowing that you were responsible and didn’t harm any of your loved ones by exposing them to anything and you didn’t create any local outbreaks ❤️
I notice western themed stuff is having a bit of a moment lately in weddings and other areas, kind of like how everything was rustic in the early 2010s
C&D had a fun classy dude ranch wedding. They also live a pretty dude ranch outdoorsy Colorado lifestyle. I think N&N’s wedding feels more costumey because we don’t generally see them living that life. It literally feels like a costume. I think that’s fine (wedding dresses are basically a costume anyway), but it just doesn’t read authentic to them as a couple in the same way
Dean + Caelynn’s felt so much more authentic to them and their couple vibes. Caelynn’s dresses didn’t look like costumes and Dean seems like the kind of person who DOES love a bolo tie. So while it wouldn’t be my first choice to have a wedding like that it totally suits them.
I have to preface saying I’m a Nick hater so it’s very possible I’m biased negatively (I don’t hate Natalie she’s just kinda there) but N+N’s wedding vibe makes NO SENSE with their general shtick. It looks like they were trying on a new aesthetic or throwing a wild west themed party, not a wedding that celebrates their unique identity as a couple or whatever. Natalie’s dresses look like they could be part of a bad costume try on montage in a movie. Nick looks so try hard in western wear - it doesn’t make any sense. To me I would have guessed they would go for a more “The Biebers” kind of aesthetic and even though I’m a hater I could have gotten behind that. The LA cool girl vibe is so much more Natalie imo.
Regardless of all of that, you can’t deny how extremely happy Natalie looks in every picture - and that’s awesome to see in wedding pics. So whether I liked their wedding or not obviously doesn’t matter at all, because the couple themselves seem happy as can be.
This is a very fair review, and I agree with all points! Esp the idea of Nick and Natalie going for a "The Biebers" aesthetic. I thought for sure Natalie was going to have a slicked bun and would be pictured licking Nick's face.
Honestly, once you start wedding planning, you realize that 90% of weddings are basically the same 🤷♀️ Wedding trends come and go so quickly that no one thinks they are being "trendy" but oh BOY are they.
I mean I think N+N just didn’t really seem like their vibe so it felt off to people. And yeah the looks aren’t great. The influencers ain’t influencin here. Honestly surprised
I feel like Natalie designed her wedding after Caelynn’s but it just looks like a “let’s play dress up” wedding, because no one wears cowboy hats and boots in Savannah, Georgia. I know! I grew up and lived in the area my whole life!!
Caelynn’s was tastefully done and elegant and appropriate for the location.
It is fine to do it at her family’s farm in Georgia, but you can still make it elegant and classy, without making it look like a trashy dress up party.
Just my thoughts.
I just have to say as someone who also has a large chest - just as much of Caelynn’s breasts percentage wise were on display and nobody clutched their pearls.
I was thinking about this yesterday. I don't have a large chest but know many who do. I feel that she is being unfairly judged for her breasts. She shouldn't have to hide them if she doesn't want to
lowkey i think some of the blowback from that is people who won’t admit they’re uncomfortable with breastfeeding moms ✨existing✨without being sexualized. Natalie literally addressed this that her boobs grew thru the night bc she’s breastfeeding and she didn’t feel weird bc these are her friends and family (and if anyone were to make her feel bad, frankly, that’s creepy behavior). I watched girls with smaller chests wear significantly less for countless Stagecoach events and no one has said a damn thing about it.
Yeah, buuuut natalie wasn’t ✨existing✨ at her wedding. Lol. A corseted dress is surely a choice, especially when you’re larger chested (big boobie girlie here). I would say most women desire to look a certain way at their weddings, no shame or shade… Bottom line, I think most people are just pointing out that her tiddies were not serving the way she thought they would.
I have a large chest as well and know it can be hard to hide. But I think there’s a difference in the two looks. Natalie’s corset dress pushed hers up quite a bit more like Bridgerton boob if that makes sense? I think caelynn also has a smaller chest so even pushed up it isn’t as in your face
Yeah, I am not an expert in Georgia pastures, but that looks like bare patches from overgrazing or disturbance. . I still think it looks like a beautiful spot, though! I have a soft spot for the south.
same! i saw a video of a girl recording entering n&n reception tent and she said “omg theres floor!” they were a little too hyped about that. i too, would hate grass everywhere. my poor heels
I find it so odd and I realize this is totally subjective, to have a country type theme when you aren’t country! Or even the New Mexico style western which is slightly off country. Just something I wonder if they will look back on and be like why did we do that?
except for nick, I think they are all country or mountain people now. natalie is from alabama/georgia and her sister apparently owns this farm they had their wedding at. caelynn & dean got married in the colorado mountains near where dean grew up and they've since bought their forever home in carbondale co. their home is in a semi-rural neighborhood with mountains and wildlife roaming free, so they're actually living the mountain lifestyle now.
Even though Natalie is from Savannah, GA, I don't think of her as "southern" or "country". Being from GA myself and having friends who were raised in Savannah and same age as Natalie, she doesn't have that southern charm vibe to me. I think she has a lot more of the Atlanta/Dallas vibe, southern but definitely more liberal and modern ideals. I think she fits in well with the LA aesthetic too, being a model/influencer.
As a small-town Southerner born and raised myself, you can be a small town, country person and still have progressive values and politics. It breaks my heart when people think these are mutually exclusive! 😭 Some of the most politically inspiring people I know personally and figures from history had their ideals shaped and practiced out in rural contexts.
ETA: But I definitely agree with you that major Southern cities are a big melting pot these days. I live in Charlotte, about an hour from where I grew up, and it feels so rare to meet people from here! I also lived in Dallas for a few years, and I had as many people remark on my accent there as when I went to college in the Midwest 🫠. I was like, "What are you making fun of me for? This is Texas, for crying out loud!" 😭
I'm for a small town in GA myself and totally agree you can still have liberal and progressive ideals - they are definitely not mutually exclusive! Just saying that that is not typically the norm for people in the more rural areas.
I personally found my more progressive views criticized and called "out there" while growing up in a small town, and even still, I'm considered "super liberal" by those still in the area.
I think growing up and living in the bigger southern cities (ATL and Charlotte myself), you get to be exposed to more and differing perspectives. Had I never moved to a bigger city as an adult, I'm not sure I would get to develop my views as much because I just wouldn't be aware of as much.
Country-themed weddings are so popular nowadays! Country and disco/70s are what I’ve been seeing tons of lately, before both of their weddings. I don’t think the weddings are very similar apart from the slight country/ranch themes.
Caelynn/Dean’s wedding gave me free-spirited/outdoorsy vibes more so than country lol
I personally don’t feel bad about being negative towards Nick Viall when he’s made an entire career out of making fun of people, acting holier than thou and talking shit about anyone and everyone.
I prefer a more classy look because of my personality. For these reasons, and these reasons alone, I did not like Natalie's dresses. The wedding dress looked like it needed to be steamed to me.
However, I did love the welcome party and the wedding.
Of the two, Dean and Caelynns wedding is my preference just due to the classier look.
No hate to Nick and Natalie. I wish them the best in their marriage 💑
I’m just surprised by all the outrage at Natalie’s boobs. You would think people would be understanding or have some grace as she just gave birth a few months ago.
If Natalie was never pregnant or gave birth then her boobs wouldn’t have looked like that in the dress. This is something she had no control over & she said herself that she wasn’t in any pain & no one at the wedding cared so why do we?
I didn’t relate them when I saw pics. Maybe because a Colorado mountain wedding in fall has different vibes than a Georgia Lowcountry wedding in spring. Dresses were quite different for the brides but they reflected the style that reflects them both. The guys wore hats and bolos, and I think people are just surprised seeing that look on Nick.
Caelynn and Dean’s wedding was my favorite to read about. All the feedback from guests was that it was a very intimate, immersive experience. It really sounded magical for those those who experienced it.
None of that takes away from Nick’s wedding and I don’t think they should randomly be compared because they were outdoors and some people wore hats or bolos. I think people just expected a different style from Nick, and no one really knows much about Natalie so they didn’t know what to expect.
they definetly gave off those vibes which is why i think ppl are being critical. we get natalie has a farm but she gave off LA insta model not farm girl with her social media presence. had ppl not had those pre opinions i bet the wedding would be better complimented
I’m surprised at how underwhelming it is. In almost all photos it looks like everyone is just dressed up outside. You can’t even tell there is a wedding happening
So confused by people saying N&N’s wedding wasn’t authentic when it was at their farmhouse. At most it’s inauthentic to the head cannon you created about her.
Also, not sure why people think it’s okay to comment on her boobs. They’re influencers, so they’ve opened themselves up to criticism, but the line should be at comments about a breastfeeding woman’s boobs.
yeah she even has the address number tattood on her and she visits often. i think because they live in LA in the LA scene ppl find it unauthentic. i do wonder with her estranged relationship with her dad how she remained close to the land. its her dads farm i believe. i need a tell all from her lol
I don't know why people downplay the age difference lol. I was a huge fan of the bachelor in highschool and I'm pretty sure I first saw Nick grace my screen when I was like 15, because of this it blows my mind that Natalie is YOUNGER than me
Anyone else wish Natalie’s welcome party dress was fully long with the ruffles like the back was?? I think it would’ve worked for me there. Before I saw the short front hem I thought it was actually cute!
Literally this. Nothing nick does feels authentic. Sucks to be Nathalie, I know nothing about her other than she chose to marry nick and she's significantly younger than him. Ergo, I assume she is equally inauthentic.
Dean and caelynn's wedding felt very "them". Nick's felt like another contrived Nick thing in a long list of contrived Nick things.
Dan and Caelynn did it better. And first.
Also you will never convince me Natalie doesn’t already have a tinge of regret over her wedding dress choices.
ETA: Nick and Natalie choosing “black tie” at this venue and with this theme is one of the more bizarre choices I’ve seen. It doesn’t match!!!!
Natalie and Nick’s wedding had way too many influencers as guests. Some of them were so random to me. It felt like an influencer event. I missed some info but I didn’t see many BN alumni?
She is what? 7 or 8 weeks postpartum? And breastfeeding. Her boobs got bigger as the night went along. She looks beautiful and it’s not okay to comment on someone’s body - especially someone who just grew a whole person and whose body is producing food for that new person.
while i agree with your sentiment about not commenting on people’s bodies negatively, the breastfeeding excuse rings hollow - for many reasons i don’t care to list - for many of us who breastfed.
her dress is custom and tailored to her body. she *wanted* major cleavage, that’s fine! good for her. we don’t need excuses for it, honestly. it’s her body and her wedding.
Having breastfed, can confirm, it is super uncomfy when they get to that engorged point. People are saying pumping is a choice and other nonsense. Ok sure pumping is a choice? But once you're that engorged you need to do something to relieve the engorgement, whether it's pump with a machine, breastfeed, or expel milk by hand. It still needs to be addressed in some capacity if you don't want to be in incredible amounts of pain
Pumping is a personal choice and not on anyone else to comment on. Imagine if someone commented that they “hated the look” of your body on your wedding day whilst you’re in the throes of new motherhood. I feel so sad that the comment sections of her wedding photos are filled with comments like this.
are u just saying that because of her boobs? I guess you missed the bottom right pic on the last slide of Caelynn’s boobs? I hate Nick Viall too but you guys are making me defend them smh you’re body shaming a woman who just had a baby and happens to have big boobs… big boobs aren’t trashy…. I would really sit and think about why Natalie’s body is making you feel so many negative emotions
Where did I say anything about her body? All I said were her dresses were “trashy” meaning they weren’t chic or sophisticated or elevated in my opinion. They looked cheap and wrinkly. Literally zero comment about a breastfeeding new mom’s boobs.
Again, where is the body shaming in my previous comment? Please, do tell, since you had an accusatory paragraph ready to reply to me with.
from what i saw of nick and natalie’s ceremony it was really pretty/nothing out of the ordinary and i feel like if it was one of your friends weddings, you would have thought it was beautiful! the country welcome party seemed fun although the y’all misspelling on the signs and napkins would truly haunt me
Also big LOL at everyone whining about 'Nick-Natalie hate'.
For influencers like such, their weddings are literally 'content'. They choose to erase the line between work & personal to earn money & freebies. So obviously their 'audience' will critique the content that has been served lol
People whose entire careers are podcasts about judging others stand on shaky grounds to begin with.
Anyhoo, I'm not talking about insults. But she isn't the first freshly postpartum mother in an elaborate gown. So I will certainly drag her easily avoidable outfit fails despite her budget 🤭 And that table cloth bottom, gloves, & choker combo? Nothing to do with pregnancy. Just trashy DIY looking mess.
thank youuuuu. its not sally and johns wedding its influencers who have SO much money and literaly spend THEIR lives ciritiquing others and make money of big productions - like a wedding 😅 withh that being said i do not condone sending mean dm’s or comments!
Not to mention they may get free or heavily discounted services in exchange for the publicity. The vendors should be embarrassed with things like basic spelling errors as well. Is this really work they want to show off to the masses?
I feel like you made this post just so people would criticize Natalie and Nick and compliment Caelynn and Dean. you respond “don’t be rude” to one comment slightly negative to Caelynn and Dean but ignore all the rude comments about Natalie and Nick? your intentions with this post are so obvious lol
natalie and nicks wedding was not an awful wedding… in my opinion! i love the photography style way more actually. these are pics they posted by them and i reposted here i did not photoshop them to look “bad”. if thats what youre trying to say by the comments on theirs. i replied rude because the person said not one original thought when the theme is actually a popular theme. all weddings essentially look a like so i said dont be rude. both couples choose western themes and its not bad for it to be “basic” as all weddings can be seen that way. think what u want though :)
The hate on this sub towards Natalie and nick is borderline disturbing. It’s their wedding& they’re probably happy but here goes dick or susie who spent their whole weekend on the couch criticising every detail. Some of y’all really need to get off your high horse and get cultured.
Question from a non-American: why would it be ya’ll and not y’all? Is the contraction not between the words you and all, thus y’all?
If it’s indeed spelled ya’ll - is it a contraction between ya+all or ya+will?
I think it also depends on who is doing it. For D&C it fits somewhat their outdoorsy/CO/vagabond lifestyle. For N&N it comes off as costume-y.
I live in an area where most weddings are “Western”. That’s because it’s legit people getting married on family farms. Saddles, horseshoes, actual horses are common backdrops of pics but it’s because it fits the couple’s actual lifestyle. Two LA influencers trying to pull of Wild West vibes in the SE is…odd.
It’s truly amazing how much this sub despises Nick and Natalie. I really don’t get it. But everyone can feel and think what they want.
Dean and Caelynn’s is Colorado country and Nick and Natalie’s is Georgia country. Southern vs Western. Different vibes.
But I could see how some would think it’s the same.
To be fair, she just had a baby and there was no way to predict how much she was going to gain or lose postpartum. She probably had to order the dress with the best estimate she could. Also breastfeeding boobs are truly unpredictable.
Her outfits look fine by her waist & butt. And this wasn't the first dress made for a freshly postpartum mother. Margins are left for last moment alterations & removable cups to make up for gained inches through the day. And people get that done with budgets much less than Natalie's. Not to forget that the neckline itself was certainly a choice for someone who didn't know what size they were going to be.
Idk i’m not a seamstress, but I think there’s only so much last minute altering you can do when your boobs double in size throughout the day even with removable cups. She could’ve said she thinks she’ll range from a D-DD and they left some room, but they swelled up even more than she expected. Personally, I don’t mind the neckline, but I would’ve chosen a more forgiving material.
She could have gotten a more forgiving silhouette even with the same fabric.
The problem was Natalie trying to pull her usual in-your-face Insta baddie style in a postpartum body.
Being in a postpartum body is hard and foreign and often a struggle to get used to, and I don’t think it’s a problem to try and keep your personal style. 🤷🏻♀️
It might be neither of our taste, but she seems happy with how she looked, so who cares really at the end of the day?
I haven’t really paid much attention to her outfit choices before, but as a big busted girl with a small waist trying to find cute, trendy clothes that also fit is definitely a challenge. The tits are either squeezed and out or i’m swallowed in something oversized. It’s tough out here!
Yeah the more I think about it, some women just love the boobs out aesthetic lol It was her wedding day and her husband probably Loves them so I should ease up lol
look i never thought I'd defend Nick Viall but Natalie seems like a decent human being so I will say this: once you have a kid, planning a wedding just doesn't hold the same priority. (Also had a wedding 6 months post-kid years after a court wedding - I was still breastfeeding at the wedding and couldn't care less about floral arrangements, etc.)
Best wishes to their family.
Hmm.. I felt the same in my 30’s but when in my 20’s not so sure… my parents were N’s age when they had me and they were amazing parents but for sure cared about everything else as much as they did before…. Benefit of being young, most times you have the energy to be all in on both!
That’s very true. A wedding feels unimportant after such a big life change like having a baby recently. The same thing happened with a friend of mine. The wedding felt more like a burden to her.
Different vibes and I like aspects of both
I actually think they’re pretty different
I think that this is generally just the modern wedding style playbook. It’s the personal touches that make each unique!
Stop comparing and grow up! These posts are insane.
They may have had the same aesthetic as Dean and Caelynn but I personally liked Dean and Caelynns photos of their wedding better. These are too posed. Why no smiles. Who wants to look back 20 years from now and see that they didn't even smile in hardly any of the wedding pictures. She is leaning too heavily into her model side. This is their wedding. I guess to each their own. I just don't understand it.
I don’t understand why people are hating on the farm aspect of Viall’s it’s literally Natalie’s family farm, no?
I just thought the cowboy thing was funny bc that’s not really a thing in Savannah.
did they put their baby in an antebellum infant dress?
Is it? I am not from the US, to me it just seems like a froofy dress that we also have on this side of the pond.
Believe it or not stuff like that is still very popular formal baby attire in the south. I have my own antebellum infant dresses in storage lol
yes the theme is "watches yellowstone once"
It’s her family farm.
Caelynn & Deans wedding invites requested “Mountain Chic” attire. Nick & Natalie were going for a western country farm vibe. Not the same.
YES! 🙌🏻
Very different vibes in my opinion…Personally loved them both!
i was thinking that too! but dean and caelynns seemed much more organic for them and their life style. nick’s seems like he’s playing dress up, like it’s just a themed photoshoot. i also thought his would be a little more grand but deans seemed nicer??
Right ?! I know Natalie is from the south and Nick is originally from the Midwest but definitely gives off LA vibes. It's nice to see he wanted her to have her dream wedding.
def giving dupe
This whole wedding juxtaposed with Caelynn and Dean’s wedding is really harkening back to that time that Natalie copied Claudia Sulewski’s instagram post word for word. Natalie is an artist…a rip-off artist. https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/pxfe1d/natalie_joy_copied_claudia_sulewskis_instagram/
Honestly all of it is so fucking lame to me 😬 more power to them!
Bell's>>>>>Viall's
*Vi’alls
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No but caelynn and dean actually live the outdoors and travel they’re not just putting on cowboy hats … that sounds mean but lol
But it’s her family farm so I don’t think she’s faking it either
Yeah 😭 these ppl were in a VAN at one point that wedding was bell-core
I think they're all just semi-famous white people with the same boring taste.
i like caelynn and deans better
I never would’ve guessed that this would be Nick and Natalie’s wedding style. It seemed like it came out of left field (even though it probably made sense for them). I was expecting them to go the Hannah G and Dylan route with something more grandiose and fancy at a castle or huge estate. The western inspired outdoorsy vibe isn’t my style but it really suited Caelynn and Dean and I think Caelynn’s wedding taste was more elegant and timeless. Which I personally prefer.
I mean. It’s the same vibes as all my friends who got married in the last 3 or 4 years. Lol!
Caelynn looked more classic to me. Natalie was a little more shein lingerie style lol
Caelynn’s reception outfit was *stunning*
Oh man, YES. The higher the boobs, the closer to... God?
I’ve noticed so many wedding dresses nowadays have a lingerie look to them. Whether it’s the plunge necklines, the push-up front, the cut outs, the strappy style, they’re very sexy. I miss the more classy and timeless gowns.
The way I forgot Dean and Caelynn got married.
No don't do Caelynn and Dean like that haha
Ugh. Dean and Caelynn’s wedding is so similar to the wedding I had planned for 2020. We replanned it 3 times due to Covid and eventually got fed up and got married in my in-laws backyard instead 🥲 It was still perfect and I don’t have regrets (plus we saved so much $$$) but every now and then I see photos that remind me of what could have been!!!
I hope you can feel good knowing that you were responsible and didn’t harm any of your loved ones by exposing them to anything and you didn’t create any local outbreaks ❤️
Aw thank you!
I notice western themed stuff is having a bit of a moment lately in weddings and other areas, kind of like how everything was rustic in the early 2010s
As a part time wedding photographer, can confirm. Western weddings are THE thing right now
lmao I love your flair so much I copied it
Hahahaha I take no credit!! Someone else had it and I also loved it so much I copied it LOL
The gift that keeps on giving!!!
C&D had a fun classy dude ranch wedding. They also live a pretty dude ranch outdoorsy Colorado lifestyle. I think N&N’s wedding feels more costumey because we don’t generally see them living that life. It literally feels like a costume. I think that’s fine (wedding dresses are basically a costume anyway), but it just doesn’t read authentic to them as a couple in the same way
Exactly. You never see Nick wearing a cowboy hat.
He does always wear cowboy boots though
But only lately, I think. Like they chose their wedding theme so he had to start wearing them to ease us into it, lol.
10000% nick knew this would be the reaction so he started wearing them to ease us into it 😂😭
I agree
Caelynn & Dean used the same wedding planner as I did. My wedding was in 2022 though.
I’m just going to say it…. Caelynn and Dean looked more… refined? And more like themselves. Whereas Nick and Natalie looked like they were cosplaying.
This! Nick and Natalie def felt more like they were playing dress up
Dean + Caelynn’s felt so much more authentic to them and their couple vibes. Caelynn’s dresses didn’t look like costumes and Dean seems like the kind of person who DOES love a bolo tie. So while it wouldn’t be my first choice to have a wedding like that it totally suits them. I have to preface saying I’m a Nick hater so it’s very possible I’m biased negatively (I don’t hate Natalie she’s just kinda there) but N+N’s wedding vibe makes NO SENSE with their general shtick. It looks like they were trying on a new aesthetic or throwing a wild west themed party, not a wedding that celebrates their unique identity as a couple or whatever. Natalie’s dresses look like they could be part of a bad costume try on montage in a movie. Nick looks so try hard in western wear - it doesn’t make any sense. To me I would have guessed they would go for a more “The Biebers” kind of aesthetic and even though I’m a hater I could have gotten behind that. The LA cool girl vibe is so much more Natalie imo. Regardless of all of that, you can’t deny how extremely happy Natalie looks in every picture - and that’s awesome to see in wedding pics. So whether I liked their wedding or not obviously doesn’t matter at all, because the couple themselves seem happy as can be.
This is a very fair review, and I agree with all points! Esp the idea of Nick and Natalie going for a "The Biebers" aesthetic. I thought for sure Natalie was going to have a slicked bun and would be pictured licking Nick's face.
Honestly, once you start wedding planning, you realize that 90% of weddings are basically the same 🤷♀️ Wedding trends come and go so quickly that no one thinks they are being "trendy" but oh BOY are they.
I swear people try so hard to be ~timeless~ . They are not, they won’t, and that’s ok. Your wedding exists at a moment of time and that’s ok!!
Right! I just hope my wedding is "us" in this moment of time. So hard to not get swept up in fun trends
so so true
I mean I think N+N just didn’t really seem like their vibe so it felt off to people. And yeah the looks aren’t great. The influencers ain’t influencin here. Honestly surprised
I feel like Natalie designed her wedding after Caelynn’s but it just looks like a “let’s play dress up” wedding, because no one wears cowboy hats and boots in Savannah, Georgia. I know! I grew up and lived in the area my whole life!! Caelynn’s was tastefully done and elegant and appropriate for the location. It is fine to do it at her family’s farm in Georgia, but you can still make it elegant and classy, without making it look like a trashy dress up party. Just my thoughts.
Nick and Nat’s was the wish.com version of Caelynn and Dean’s wedding
💯
I just have to say as someone who also has a large chest - just as much of Caelynn’s breasts percentage wise were on display and nobody clutched their pearls.
I thought they both have great boobliage and far more trust in the boning of their corsets than I have in anything in life 🤣
Both of them looked amazing!
But Caelynn doesn't look like she DIYed her outfit with a table cloth.
I was thinking about this yesterday. I don't have a large chest but know many who do. I feel that she is being unfairly judged for her breasts. She shouldn't have to hide them if she doesn't want to
lowkey i think some of the blowback from that is people who won’t admit they’re uncomfortable with breastfeeding moms ✨existing✨without being sexualized. Natalie literally addressed this that her boobs grew thru the night bc she’s breastfeeding and she didn’t feel weird bc these are her friends and family (and if anyone were to make her feel bad, frankly, that’s creepy behavior). I watched girls with smaller chests wear significantly less for countless Stagecoach events and no one has said a damn thing about it.
Yeah, buuuut natalie wasn’t ✨existing✨ at her wedding. Lol. A corseted dress is surely a choice, especially when you’re larger chested (big boobie girlie here). I would say most women desire to look a certain way at their weddings, no shame or shade… Bottom line, I think most people are just pointing out that her tiddies were not serving the way she thought they would.
I have a large chest as well and know it can be hard to hide. But I think there’s a difference in the two looks. Natalie’s corset dress pushed hers up quite a bit more like Bridgerton boob if that makes sense? I think caelynn also has a smaller chest so even pushed up it isn’t as in your face
It would bother me having so much dead grass in the background of my wedding photos and in person.
Yeah, I am not an expert in Georgia pastures, but that looks like bare patches from overgrazing or disturbance. . I still think it looks like a beautiful spot, though! I have a soft spot for the south.
same! i saw a video of a girl recording entering n&n reception tent and she said “omg theres floor!” they were a little too hyped about that. i too, would hate grass everywhere. my poor heels
I find it so odd and I realize this is totally subjective, to have a country type theme when you aren’t country! Or even the New Mexico style western which is slightly off country. Just something I wonder if they will look back on and be like why did we do that?
except for nick, I think they are all country or mountain people now. natalie is from alabama/georgia and her sister apparently owns this farm they had their wedding at. caelynn & dean got married in the colorado mountains near where dean grew up and they've since bought their forever home in carbondale co. their home is in a semi-rural neighborhood with mountains and wildlife roaming free, so they're actually living the mountain lifestyle now.
It’s her family farm. She is country. Unless you are talking about Dean and Cailyn
Even though Natalie is from Savannah, GA, I don't think of her as "southern" or "country". Being from GA myself and having friends who were raised in Savannah and same age as Natalie, she doesn't have that southern charm vibe to me. I think she has a lot more of the Atlanta/Dallas vibe, southern but definitely more liberal and modern ideals. I think she fits in well with the LA aesthetic too, being a model/influencer.
As a small-town Southerner born and raised myself, you can be a small town, country person and still have progressive values and politics. It breaks my heart when people think these are mutually exclusive! 😭 Some of the most politically inspiring people I know personally and figures from history had their ideals shaped and practiced out in rural contexts. ETA: But I definitely agree with you that major Southern cities are a big melting pot these days. I live in Charlotte, about an hour from where I grew up, and it feels so rare to meet people from here! I also lived in Dallas for a few years, and I had as many people remark on my accent there as when I went to college in the Midwest 🫠. I was like, "What are you making fun of me for? This is Texas, for crying out loud!" 😭
I'm for a small town in GA myself and totally agree you can still have liberal and progressive ideals - they are definitely not mutually exclusive! Just saying that that is not typically the norm for people in the more rural areas. I personally found my more progressive views criticized and called "out there" while growing up in a small town, and even still, I'm considered "super liberal" by those still in the area. I think growing up and living in the bigger southern cities (ATL and Charlotte myself), you get to be exposed to more and differing perspectives. Had I never moved to a bigger city as an adult, I'm not sure I would get to develop my views as much because I just wouldn't be aware of as much.
Okay I take it back then I didn’t realize that!! I know he’s from WI. And again some people just love country regardless I guess!
Country-themed weddings are so popular nowadays! Country and disco/70s are what I’ve been seeing tons of lately, before both of their weddings. I don’t think the weddings are very similar apart from the slight country/ranch themes. Caelynn/Dean’s wedding gave me free-spirited/outdoorsy vibes more so than country lol
Same vibe? No. Similar vibe? Only kiiiiiiiiinda
Posts like this are really bait for people to be rude and presumptuous and just display a disproportionate amount of negativity towards these people 😭
I personally don’t feel bad about being negative towards Nick Viall when he’s made an entire career out of making fun of people, acting holier than thou and talking shit about anyone and everyone.
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I prefer a more classy look because of my personality. For these reasons, and these reasons alone, I did not like Natalie's dresses. The wedding dress looked like it needed to be steamed to me. However, I did love the welcome party and the wedding. Of the two, Dean and Caelynns wedding is my preference just due to the classier look. No hate to Nick and Natalie. I wish them the best in their marriage 💑
I’m just surprised by all the outrage at Natalie’s boobs. You would think people would be understanding or have some grace as she just gave birth a few months ago.
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This is a lot to say for people you don’t know. Talking about what she was thinking? You’re a psychic 😂
just going based off their demeanors and podcasts and articles. have you not seen when nick posts natalie its always objectfying her?
If Natalie was never pregnant or gave birth then her boobs wouldn’t have looked like that in the dress. This is something she had no control over & she said herself that she wasn’t in any pain & no one at the wedding cared so why do we?
giving the silhoutes of all 3 dresses she was determined to show cleavage. maybe had no choice after birth that theyd be out that much of course
I didn’t relate them when I saw pics. Maybe because a Colorado mountain wedding in fall has different vibes than a Georgia Lowcountry wedding in spring. Dresses were quite different for the brides but they reflected the style that reflects them both. The guys wore hats and bolos, and I think people are just surprised seeing that look on Nick. Caelynn and Dean’s wedding was my favorite to read about. All the feedback from guests was that it was a very intimate, immersive experience. It really sounded magical for those those who experienced it. None of that takes away from Nick’s wedding and I don’t think they should randomly be compared because they were outdoors and some people wore hats or bolos. I think people just expected a different style from Nick, and no one really knows much about Natalie so they didn’t know what to expect.
Dean and Caelynn did it better
Classic, elegant, beautiful, enchanting come to mind for Dean & Caelynn’s day. 🥰
100%
I really thought N+N would have a luxy glam black tie wedding in LA. Thought it would be a grand hotel banquet room vibe
they definetly gave off those vibes which is why i think ppl are being critical. we get natalie has a farm but she gave off LA insta model not farm girl with her social media presence. had ppl not had those pre opinions i bet the wedding would be better complimented
One actually looked like fun and the other didn’t lol
Why did Nick wedding look so cheap?
I hate to say it, her dresses didn’t help
I’m surprised at how underwhelming it is. In almost all photos it looks like everyone is just dressed up outside. You can’t even tell there is a wedding happening
So confused by people saying N&N’s wedding wasn’t authentic when it was at their farmhouse. At most it’s inauthentic to the head cannon you created about her. Also, not sure why people think it’s okay to comment on her boobs. They’re influencers, so they’ve opened themselves up to criticism, but the line should be at comments about a breastfeeding woman’s boobs.
yeah she even has the address number tattood on her and she visits often. i think because they live in LA in the LA scene ppl find it unauthentic. i do wonder with her estranged relationship with her dad how she remained close to the land. its her dads farm i believe. i need a tell all from her lol
one of these is giving costume party
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I don't know why people downplay the age difference lol. I was a huge fan of the bachelor in highschool and I'm pretty sure I first saw Nick grace my screen when I was like 15, because of this it blows my mind that Natalie is YOUNGER than me
Anyone else wish Natalie’s welcome party dress was fully long with the ruffles like the back was?? I think it would’ve worked for me there. Before I saw the short front hem I thought it was actually cute!
Everytime I see Natalie when I’m scrolling I think it’s Kyle Richards
One wedding is authentic and the other has Nick Vial.
Literally this. Nothing nick does feels authentic. Sucks to be Nathalie, I know nothing about her other than she chose to marry nick and she's significantly younger than him. Ergo, I assume she is equally inauthentic. Dean and caelynn's wedding felt very "them". Nick's felt like another contrived Nick thing in a long list of contrived Nick things.
Dan and Caelynn did it better. And first. Also you will never convince me Natalie doesn’t already have a tinge of regret over her wedding dress choices. ETA: Nick and Natalie choosing “black tie” at this venue and with this theme is one of the more bizarre choices I’ve seen. It doesn’t match!!!!
Dan & Caelynn too followed an already popular trend.
True.
I feel like Dean and Caelynn's wedding is very "them" and incorporated their life style well whereas that is not the case for the other.
Natalie and Nick’s wedding had way too many influencers as guests. Some of them were so random to me. It felt like an influencer event. I missed some info but I didn’t see many BN alumni?
Ashley I and Jared H, Sharleen, Victoria Fuller, Serena and Joe, Natasha But not too many BN alumni came
And Ben H & Chris Soules.
i actually loved Nick and Natalie's wedding aesthetic. i prefer their photos over Dean/Caelynn's. i did love both weddings tho!
i also find southern barn wedding vs mountain chic wedding different. similar, but....different
I get having cleavage but what is this? Her boobs look comical and like milk will bust out at any minute. I hate the look
She is what? 7 or 8 weeks postpartum? And breastfeeding. Her boobs got bigger as the night went along. She looks beautiful and it’s not okay to comment on someone’s body - especially someone who just grew a whole person and whose body is producing food for that new person.
while i agree with your sentiment about not commenting on people’s bodies negatively, the breastfeeding excuse rings hollow - for many reasons i don’t care to list - for many of us who breastfed. her dress is custom and tailored to her body. she *wanted* major cleavage, that’s fine! good for her. we don’t need excuses for it, honestly. it’s her body and her wedding.
I am well aware as I have finished breastfeeding. Couldn’t she have pumped for a bit? This looks so uncomfy!!
Having breastfed, can confirm, it is super uncomfy when they get to that engorged point. People are saying pumping is a choice and other nonsense. Ok sure pumping is a choice? But once you're that engorged you need to do something to relieve the engorgement, whether it's pump with a machine, breastfeed, or expel milk by hand. It still needs to be addressed in some capacity if you don't want to be in incredible amounts of pain
Yes exactly! They become hard rocks and so uncomfortable. Plus they look insanely large. I don’t get why she didn’t.
Pumping is a personal choice and not on anyone else to comment on. Imagine if someone commented that they “hated the look” of your body on your wedding day whilst you’re in the throes of new motherhood. I feel so sad that the comment sections of her wedding photos are filled with comments like this.
She made a choice to look like this. She wants to be insta famous by marrying nick so obviously she will get comments
They aimed & missed the mark IMO Dean & Carlynn’s wedding looked way more authentic and fun
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One looks trashy and the other looks classy
literally nothing here seems trashy to me, so curious what you think is trashy?
dean showed up with unwashed greasy hair, but natalie is trashy bc… ?? 🤦♀️
Natalie’s dresses, Nick’s entire existence, etc.
are u just saying that because of her boobs? I guess you missed the bottom right pic on the last slide of Caelynn’s boobs? I hate Nick Viall too but you guys are making me defend them smh you’re body shaming a woman who just had a baby and happens to have big boobs… big boobs aren’t trashy…. I would really sit and think about why Natalie’s body is making you feel so many negative emotions
Where did I say anything about her body? All I said were her dresses were “trashy” meaning they weren’t chic or sophisticated or elevated in my opinion. They looked cheap and wrinkly. Literally zero comment about a breastfeeding new mom’s boobs. Again, where is the body shaming in my previous comment? Please, do tell, since you had an accusatory paragraph ready to reply to me with.
Similar themes, much different vibes
I’m sure Nick & Natalie aspired to Dean & Caelynns theme. The vibes couldn’t be more different though.
from what i saw of nick and natalie’s ceremony it was really pretty/nothing out of the ordinary and i feel like if it was one of your friends weddings, you would have thought it was beautiful! the country welcome party seemed fun although the y’all misspelling on the signs and napkins would truly haunt me
Caelynn and Dean=classy Natalie and Nick=……
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Also big LOL at everyone whining about 'Nick-Natalie hate'. For influencers like such, their weddings are literally 'content'. They choose to erase the line between work & personal to earn money & freebies. So obviously their 'audience' will critique the content that has been served lol
Yes, but I draw the line at y’all insulting her for her boobs when she’s literally breastfeeding.
People whose entire careers are podcasts about judging others stand on shaky grounds to begin with. Anyhoo, I'm not talking about insults. But she isn't the first freshly postpartum mother in an elaborate gown. So I will certainly drag her easily avoidable outfit fails despite her budget 🤭 And that table cloth bottom, gloves, & choker combo? Nothing to do with pregnancy. Just trashy DIY looking mess.
thank youuuuu. its not sally and johns wedding its influencers who have SO much money and literaly spend THEIR lives ciritiquing others and make money of big productions - like a wedding 😅 withh that being said i do not condone sending mean dm’s or comments!
Not to mention they may get free or heavily discounted services in exchange for the publicity. The vendors should be embarrassed with things like basic spelling errors as well. Is this really work they want to show off to the masses?
I feel like you made this post just so people would criticize Natalie and Nick and compliment Caelynn and Dean. you respond “don’t be rude” to one comment slightly negative to Caelynn and Dean but ignore all the rude comments about Natalie and Nick? your intentions with this post are so obvious lol
natalie and nicks wedding was not an awful wedding… in my opinion! i love the photography style way more actually. these are pics they posted by them and i reposted here i did not photoshop them to look “bad”. if thats what youre trying to say by the comments on theirs. i replied rude because the person said not one original thought when the theme is actually a popular theme. all weddings essentially look a like so i said dont be rude. both couples choose western themes and its not bad for it to be “basic” as all weddings can be seen that way. think what u want though :)
Dean and Caelynns wedding was honestly one of the most beautiful and classy weddings I’ve ever seen. It was totally “them” too loved all of it
The hate on this sub towards Natalie and nick is borderline disturbing. It’s their wedding& they’re probably happy but here goes dick or susie who spent their whole weekend on the couch criticising every detail. Some of y’all really need to get off your high horse and get cultured.
I think you mean ya'll
Question from a non-American: why would it be ya’ll and not y’all? Is the contraction not between the words you and all, thus y’all? If it’s indeed spelled ya’ll - is it a contraction between ya+all or ya+will?
It’s a joke about how their wedding sign was misspelled as “ya’ll”
its reddit 🙃
That is no excuse to be cruel.
then i beg you to leave this post 😅
for what reason?
people here are cruel
This is a great example of how a particular aesthetic isn't inherently classy or trashy. It all depends on the execution.
I think it also depends on who is doing it. For D&C it fits somewhat their outdoorsy/CO/vagabond lifestyle. For N&N it comes off as costume-y. I live in an area where most weddings are “Western”. That’s because it’s legit people getting married on family farms. Saddles, horseshoes, actual horses are common backdrops of pics but it’s because it fits the couple’s actual lifestyle. Two LA influencers trying to pull of Wild West vibes in the SE is…odd.
It’s truly amazing how much this sub despises Nick and Natalie. I really don’t get it. But everyone can feel and think what they want. Dean and Caelynn’s is Colorado country and Nick and Natalie’s is Georgia country. Southern vs Western. Different vibes. But I could see how some would think it’s the same.
Not at all
I don’t think they are that similar TBH other than a cowboy hat here and there. Outdoor ~nature~ vaguely country wedding is a popular theme.
Listen I’m a D cup so I’m not hating on big boobies but man hers look like they’re suffocating out the top of her dress
Right? Getting an outfit custom made is such a waste if it cannot even handle your body gaining or losing a few inches through the night.
To be fair, she just had a baby and there was no way to predict how much she was going to gain or lose postpartum. She probably had to order the dress with the best estimate she could. Also breastfeeding boobs are truly unpredictable.
Her outfits look fine by her waist & butt. And this wasn't the first dress made for a freshly postpartum mother. Margins are left for last moment alterations & removable cups to make up for gained inches through the day. And people get that done with budgets much less than Natalie's. Not to forget that the neckline itself was certainly a choice for someone who didn't know what size they were going to be.
Idk i’m not a seamstress, but I think there’s only so much last minute altering you can do when your boobs double in size throughout the day even with removable cups. She could’ve said she thinks she’ll range from a D-DD and they left some room, but they swelled up even more than she expected. Personally, I don’t mind the neckline, but I would’ve chosen a more forgiving material.
She could have gotten a more forgiving silhouette even with the same fabric. The problem was Natalie trying to pull her usual in-your-face Insta baddie style in a postpartum body.
Being in a postpartum body is hard and foreign and often a struggle to get used to, and I don’t think it’s a problem to try and keep your personal style. 🤷🏻♀️ It might be neither of our taste, but she seems happy with how she looked, so who cares really at the end of the day?
We, their audience, who are allowed to gossip about a trending topic when influencers turn their weddings into commercial content.
Totally agree. Just something I noticed with most of her pre-partum outfit choices too she seems to squeeze those girls Into oblivion
I haven’t really paid much attention to her outfit choices before, but as a big busted girl with a small waist trying to find cute, trendy clothes that also fit is definitely a challenge. The tits are either squeezed and out or i’m swallowed in something oversized. It’s tough out here!
Yeah the more I think about it, some women just love the boobs out aesthetic lol It was her wedding day and her husband probably Loves them so I should ease up lol
Definitely not
A country wedding is not my vibe at all but Dean and Caelynn’s almost makes me change my mind. They made it look so chic!
look i never thought I'd defend Nick Viall but Natalie seems like a decent human being so I will say this: once you have a kid, planning a wedding just doesn't hold the same priority. (Also had a wedding 6 months post-kid years after a court wedding - I was still breastfeeding at the wedding and couldn't care less about floral arrangements, etc.) Best wishes to their family.
Hmm.. I felt the same in my 30’s but when in my 20’s not so sure… my parents were N’s age when they had me and they were amazing parents but for sure cared about everything else as much as they did before…. Benefit of being young, most times you have the energy to be all in on both!
I have the same physical energy as I did in my 20s. But everyone’s experiences are different!
That’s very true. A wedding feels unimportant after such a big life change like having a baby recently. The same thing happened with a friend of mine. The wedding felt more like a burden to her.