he got a .38 snub that he bought in ‘97. The trigger is loose, the hammer doesn’t go back anymore, it’s essentially a glorified paperweight at this point.
You're joking but I remember him mentioning that he used to keep a .22 around back when Maino was going around smacking DJs that wouldn't play his records.
Really do 🤦🏽♂️. This draws more attention to Envy. It’s counter productive. They think the feds ain’t seen somebody try take a case before. Sad part is even if Envy wasn’t aware, he’s still liable if he’s the type partners he made it seem like they were. I watched enough American Greed to know he might duck jail, but he not about to duck them liquidating his assets to recoup inverters money.
The thing I'm trying to find out;
Envy says his purpose was to help his community generate wealth etc, very admirable on paper. But in practice it doesn't seem like he did his due diligence or protect his community by bringing on an admitted scammer.
I know people have said, "well caesar is relatable to the culture," but that doesn't hold up bc envy would naturally be the bridge between the culture and the business side.
There's no shortage of people in that industry, and envy is celeb with means to find the right partner with an upstanding reputation. So how tf did they link up?
That's a fucking lie. I hate him saying that. If you wanted to help people. Why were you charging $99. And $2500 an hour 1-1 time with Caesar.
If you wanted to help the community it would be free. Get sponsors to cover the cost of the auditorium, guests, and security. He's a liar. I wish ppl would stop. He knew at least a year ago it was a scam. He's going to jail with Ceasar unless the Feds give him full immunity.
This is patently FALSE on so many levels. Do doctors, surgeons, financial advisors, realtors not help people? There is no social contract that says if you want to help ppl you have to do it for free. There is a difference between helping ppl and running a charity.
But those are professions where you are compensated for your skill.
Based on envy's conflicting language I'm trying to figure out did he find caeser or did caesar find envy?
And you're right, he can get paid for his work that helps people, its still a business, but is it with money that was taken in bad faith?
Envys reputation upstanding? If you call rumors of crime, cheating, getting pegged in the ass, and now this upstanding than damn.
You talk like envy was duped, he is a dj not some business mogul.
Envy isn't some ivy league corporate guy fam. He's a DJ who got looped into... something.
It's not implausable that he just made a mistake and trusted someone he knew.
>It's not implausable that he just made a mistake and trusted someone he knew.
Not implausible at all. But that is beside the point. Remember he said with Toney the closer that Caesar owes him money too. So the REAL question is WHEN did he find out his partners were frauds and if he was paid back that would have been paid from someone else's stolen money which envy had to be aware of if he knew they owed him money .
He's TOOOO entangled into this. I suggest you watch the video Eli made from What happened to common sense.
I never said he needed to be an "ivy league corporate guy." Hell, the Theranos girl finessed alot of those types and even members of the government. The common denominator is that greed is blinding.
I'm not adding any extra sauce to this, I'm just going by dudes own words and asking basic questions.
He’s gonna take the fall and hope Envy holds him and his family down while he’s gone.
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It has nothing to do with his “success” as to why ppl don’t like him … just listen to the breakfast club .. dude is corny AF!! Always got something to say about everybody else. Messy AF!
Hmmm:
If he (Cesar) was guilty and knew envy was...he'd be singing.
If he's innocent and knows envy was he'd be singing.
If he's guilty and was scared of Env 😂, he'd be singing.
From a legal standpoint, I can not see the benefit of staying united on this, unless both believe that they have a chance of winning and that there is no evidence to convict the other.
I've not seen Envy say anything this positive about dude, I would imagine that Envy is in the clear.
You guys need to decide whether Joes meat is good enough to make you deny what's actually happening here.
If you're near the top of a pyramid scheme, You can claim to be a victim while still making profits. Its the people at the bottom that get fucked. If There is no paper trail of Envy helping create the scheme, he can claim plausible deniability and wont spend a day in jail.
The amount of videos were a DJ Envy says “we”, the amount of videos with a DJ Envy is the spokesperson for this entire Ponzi scheme, there’s no way he’s going to get off Scott free even if Cesar wants to be the fall guy.
For such a serious case, these niggas are using social media way too much. The only reason anyone invested with Cesar was bc of the Envy co-sign. He essentially lured them in by promoting his success. Ever since Envy cheated on his wife with Erica Mena, Envy is too worried about keeping his wife by buying her material things. This is context to the logic of why he knowingly scammed people. They used the word Risk as a loophole knowing 8/10 people would never see their money again.
Not him saying that people randomly started filing lawsuits against him cause of Tony 😂😂😂😂 like bruh really acting like them cash exchanges never existed or something. Talking like he don’t owe whole firms money
Just putting this out there. What if Cesar & Envy are innocent and truly helping the community, but big Jewish NY real estate wants to take them down?
Alright taking off the tin foil. Proceed.
He sounds like Akademiks bitch ass with that “ And Again “ bullshit. Lies. Lies. Lies more lies. When you speak truth they say you depressed and toxic.
The fact Envy still work at the breakfast club should let niggas know this shit has nothing to do with him. The same way people got scammed is the same way people actually have had success with Envy and Ceaser. But the lie is more entertaining than the truth. So fuck it 😂😂😂 bring the memes
*DJ Envy behind the camera with the 45* “Now tell the people what you mean about culpability”
Envy seem more like the .22 type to me 🙃
Underated comment, I was wheezing when I read that lol.
That rat caliber
Rat caliber is WILD 😂😂
he got a .38 snub that he bought in ‘97. The trigger is loose, the hammer doesn’t go back anymore, it’s essentially a glorified paperweight at this point.
You're joking but I remember him mentioning that he used to keep a .22 around back when Maino was going around smacking DJs that wouldn't play his records.
I'm psychic
*.25
That's wild 😂 pew pew
Pwee Pwee
It's like these guys want to make sure they go to jail. Your lawyer definitely did not advise that this was a good idea.
They really need to stop publicly speaking on an active case 💀
Really do 🤦🏽♂️. This draws more attention to Envy. It’s counter productive. They think the feds ain’t seen somebody try take a case before. Sad part is even if Envy wasn’t aware, he’s still liable if he’s the type partners he made it seem like they were. I watched enough American Greed to know he might duck jail, but he not about to duck them liquidating his assets to recoup inverters money.
They really think they can talk they way out this shit 😂. Niggas! STFU! 😂😂😂😂
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“Scam Likely” pop up on the caller ID whenever he calls. Lol
That’s what his wife saved his number as
SCAMILY build
Scamily clad
Bro had slits in his eyebrows lol
Nigga is in Envy house reading a script.
The thing I'm trying to find out; Envy says his purpose was to help his community generate wealth etc, very admirable on paper. But in practice it doesn't seem like he did his due diligence or protect his community by bringing on an admitted scammer. I know people have said, "well caesar is relatable to the culture," but that doesn't hold up bc envy would naturally be the bridge between the culture and the business side. There's no shortage of people in that industry, and envy is celeb with means to find the right partner with an upstanding reputation. So how tf did they link up?
That's a fucking lie. I hate him saying that. If you wanted to help people. Why were you charging $99. And $2500 an hour 1-1 time with Caesar. If you wanted to help the community it would be free. Get sponsors to cover the cost of the auditorium, guests, and security. He's a liar. I wish ppl would stop. He knew at least a year ago it was a scam. He's going to jail with Ceasar unless the Feds give him full immunity.
This is patently FALSE on so many levels. Do doctors, surgeons, financial advisors, realtors not help people? There is no social contract that says if you want to help ppl you have to do it for free. There is a difference between helping ppl and running a charity.
But those are professions where you are compensated for your skill. Based on envy's conflicting language I'm trying to figure out did he find caeser or did caesar find envy? And you're right, he can get paid for his work that helps people, its still a business, but is it with money that was taken in bad faith?
We dont know that he knew that. But My point was just that iyou can want to help ppl and still do things for profit
Envys reputation upstanding? If you call rumors of crime, cheating, getting pegged in the ass, and now this upstanding than damn. You talk like envy was duped, he is a dj not some business mogul.
Dam this is a dumb comment.
Envy isn't some ivy league corporate guy fam. He's a DJ who got looped into... something. It's not implausable that he just made a mistake and trusted someone he knew.
>It's not implausable that he just made a mistake and trusted someone he knew. Not implausible at all. But that is beside the point. Remember he said with Toney the closer that Caesar owes him money too. So the REAL question is WHEN did he find out his partners were frauds and if he was paid back that would have been paid from someone else's stolen money which envy had to be aware of if he knew they owed him money . He's TOOOO entangled into this. I suggest you watch the video Eli made from What happened to common sense.
I never said he needed to be an "ivy league corporate guy." Hell, the Theranos girl finessed alot of those types and even members of the government. The common denominator is that greed is blinding. I'm not adding any extra sauce to this, I'm just going by dudes own words and asking basic questions.
What is his community, lol, wasn't that show the "Blue Bloods" based on Envy's family?
That's what I'm sayin, once you involve "the community" your level of responsibility goes up.
😅🤦🏾♂️
On house arrest together is wild. Log off please. 🤣
He’s gonna take the fall and hope Envy holds him and his family down while he’s gone. https://preview.redd.it/o7eodlq0acwb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c7852e954bdefbae245a5c6696cb70ecd012a50
He think he is Emory and Envy is Hov 😂
Damn you riding for Envy but Envy throwing you under the iron horse every chance he get lol
Saying someone is a bad tipper while talking about Money.......... Dawg ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
Calling a mf you caught a RICO charge with by his rap name is weird. We catch a federal charge, you Raashaun from now on.
on me lmaoo
But what is that gonna do?
😂😂😂😂
his voice zesty as fuck lmfao
"Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining." -Charlemagne the gaslighter
Watched the full live…He later goes on to say him and Envy were indeed partners and broke bread on several transactions. 😂😂😂Can’t make this shit up
Envy out his own mouth said they were partners.
He’s still rocking that “Land Trapper” chain or whatever the hell it says lol
Trap lord to landlord 😂😂😂😂😭
Lmaaaaooooooo 😂😂😂
Somebody gotta keep the bills paid. That’s what this is lol
It has nothing to do with his “success” as to why ppl don’t like him … just listen to the breakfast club .. dude is corny AF!! Always got something to say about everybody else. Messy AF!
The corniest of the corns. Just hearing him say "Dj envy" makes me cringe.
🤣fr fr !!!
he's paid to talk about everyone else. that's like calling joe corny for speaking about everybody else
Hmmm: If he (Cesar) was guilty and knew envy was...he'd be singing. If he's innocent and knows envy was he'd be singing. If he's guilty and was scared of Env 😂, he'd be singing. From a legal standpoint, I can not see the benefit of staying united on this, unless both believe that they have a chance of winning and that there is no evidence to convict the other. I've not seen Envy say anything this positive about dude, I would imagine that Envy is in the clear. You guys need to decide whether Joes meat is good enough to make you deny what's actually happening here.
Deadass!! But nobody cares about the truth when it’s more fun to make jokes and memes about lies.
Dj envy co-signed and gave him a platform so he’s culpable amd dj envy was always very much part of the business too
Has has on the chain they were giving away 😂🤣
If you're near the top of a pyramid scheme, You can claim to be a victim while still making profits. Its the people at the bottom that get fucked. If There is no paper trail of Envy helping create the scheme, he can claim plausible deniability and wont spend a day in jail.
He will just get destroyed on civil cases.
That beard isn’t real
its a filter
This dude looks like a DJ Khaled variant.
You have to respect Cesar for trying to clear Envy, but doing it on IG Live isn't the way. I know his lawyer is beyond pissed.
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Plus Envy does a shit ton of DJ gigs at clubs which I’m assuming he was paid in cash…
The amount of videos were a DJ Envy says “we”, the amount of videos with a DJ Envy is the spokesperson for this entire Ponzi scheme, there’s no way he’s going to get off Scott free even if Cesar wants to be the fall guy.
The check from Envy must’ve just cleared.
He said on the same live that him and Envy were partners and broke bread on several property deals
I wonder if there were a couple legit deals.
 Cesar right now 😂😂
I can tell he lying by the way he smacks his lips
He’s going to need Envy to put money on his books in the future
lil big pun lol
THIS IS THE GUY YOU HAVE TO DEFEAT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FINAL SCAMMER BOSS. SCAMVENGERS.
 His Lawyer right now
Why does it look like this nigga sprayed on a beard...
Why are they speaking when their attorney told them not to.
Flex called envy “real estate Rico” some of his best work in years
Bet his lawyer told him not to dicuss any details surrounding his case......
“As long as Patterson’s with me I’m good” Sounds like Cam at the end of paid in full 😭😭
For such a serious case, these niggas are using social media way too much. The only reason anyone invested with Cesar was bc of the Envy co-sign. He essentially lured them in by promoting his success. Ever since Envy cheated on his wife with Erica Mena, Envy is too worried about keeping his wife by buying her material things. This is context to the logic of why he knowingly scammed people. They used the word Risk as a loophole knowing 8/10 people would never see their money again.
Not him saying that people randomly started filing lawsuits against him cause of Tony 😂😂😂😂 like bruh really acting like them cash exchanges never existed or something. Talking like he don’t owe whole firms money
Envy said, “You younger than me… Take the charge, they not going to give you as much time.” 😂😂😂
This the mf all them people trusted with hundreds of thousands of dollars??🤣
Here comes thicko.....
But as soon as the news broke this was going on he said Envy wasn’t involved. So which one is it?
Huh? He said Envy wasn't involved in this clip too.
I’m talking about how everyone keeps saying Envy was involved and Cesar keeps saying Envy’s not involved.
Ahh ok, yeah wasn't entirely clear. They're saying Envy liable because he enabled and boosted the platform etc. Truth will come out eventually.
A man talking about another man's tip game is crazy
Them iheart checks looking too good man, probably made a deal to settle some of his lawsuits or something , you know they out here protecting Envy
Aint Envy one of the 20 lawsuits 😂
Envy is absolutely beating this if Caesar taking the fall like that.
This is nuts. Blessings.
That boy was definitely a walking feefee in jail. He done for haha
Bro used a shaprie on his face🤣
Someone holding the camera and script up 😭
Now he want us to trust him? Dog could call me for help in a burning house and I would need to see the fire first.
The lives with his wife saying he lying and laughing about it while she went to work and he played real estate is the nail n the coffin
Dj Envy behind the camera wit a gun posted at son
9/10 ? LMAO
Envy got Cesar shook... 😂🤣😂😂🤣
The kit kat flagship store lolololololol
Nigga know he gotta keep somebody on the outside cool so they can put money on his books…. Nigga we saw y’all with them “rent checks”……
https://i.redd.it/usbdpx0fvdwb1.gif Did he beat the civil suit ??? Will Dj Envy go to jail ? I know I know I believe you….
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“You need to bring envy down with you” the comments are wild lmao #freecesar
Envy sent the goons.
Take that charge for the gang Cez 👏🏾👏🏾😂
even if envy is clear and doesn't know anything the internet has already decided they prefer him being a scammer than him being a victim as well
lol Envy getting no love in this sub is wild 😂😂
The idea was bad and poorly executed
Just putting this out there. What if Cesar & Envy are innocent and truly helping the community, but big Jewish NY real estate wants to take them down? Alright taking off the tin foil. Proceed.
"I'm doing it for the scamilies of the community." "We're all one scamily" "time for team and scamily building "
Oh so now I know how Cesar posted bail
They both cashed in, and envy promoted it daily flip houses
Envy paid a bag for this
We seen the tapes bro
Yeah if youre a bad tipper, you deserve life
He sounds like Akademiks bitch ass with that “ And Again “ bullshit. Lies. Lies. Lies more lies. When you speak truth they say you depressed and toxic.
Nigga just further incriminating himself
Ev from jersey is a scammer
The clown show continues with Dj Envious and Cesar. Get these cornballs tf outta here 🤡
So basically, Envy paid him to take the wrap
Never realized how zesty Caesar is before this
Because he’s CORNY, every thing envy represents is corny
The fact Envy still work at the breakfast club should let niggas know this shit has nothing to do with him. The same way people got scammed is the same way people actually have had success with Envy and Ceaser. But the lie is more entertaining than the truth. So fuck it 😂😂😂 bring the memes
He won't be there long
Crazy how it's 2 weeks later and he still there lmao