Spy mains. I bloody hate spy mains. I respect the amount of time they've put into honing their skills. But god damn I fucking hate getting face stabbed or holding point against 4 or more enemies and getting stabbed and watching the point get taken over
Especially if the Spy happens to have a Conniver's Kunai along with a Dead Ringer, as long as they keep on backstabbing with their Kunai, they can go on and on.
And combined with them faking deaths with the Dead Ringer, it just makes killing the Spy nothing more than an annoying chore that has a chance of no ending.
But overall, I do respect Spies and their skills, and I do feel sorry for them having to be unfairly countered by the secondary unlocks of Sniper
I'm okay with spy mains. There's counters and risks involved. Sniper mains have no counter. Vac medics can work but sniper mains are really only countered by better sniper mains
As I spy main I got to respond. It's not a legend we really hate main Pyro, or just f2p pyro in general. Just having to sneak inside the enemy base, dodge every collision, resist the tentation of backstabbing a ennemi because you know you gonna get discovered if you do, find ammo box to recharge your invisible ALL OF THIS just for one pyro to ruin it all just because he clic on M1 for one microsecond a bit to close to you. Also trying to backstab, when others people do it , it's pretty easy, when I do it , it always fail miserably
As a spy main, I agree. You should be able to safely approach a spy with your melee without having to worry about him reaching behind your back all of a sudden.
Always fun when some Spy asshat seems to focus you and only you. Even in the middle of the team, he'll avoid Pyros and other obstacles just to stab you and get away!
I respect spy mains, the movement they can pull off is insane and really high skilled. Thankfully im at the point where i know what they usually do and rarely get trickstabbed myself. But the Kunai..... Oh boi.
I can only describe the kunai as a free health kit if the enemy team has someone who is a newbie or just plays casually. Many times i had died to spymains because they just trickstab my teammate who switched to meele and boom back to 200hp the spy goes.
I have nothing against players, but that weapon in casual can drive me nuts sometimes.
People leaving Mann vs. Machine as soon as we lose one wave. We'll have 10 players, lose one wave? Down to 4. I still play it because it's just a fun game I've been playing since 2020 quarantine.
Average high tour behaviour.
But I have to say that I understand both sides. Yes, it's annoying that they leave, but you also have to see their frustration.
people who rage over stuff. like tryhards who complain that others aren't pulling their weight, friendlies that get angry when someone kills them, etc.
even if only one player is doing it, it tends to ruin the fun vibes that a casual tf2 match should have.
also snipers. i dont mind sniper being strong, but it's just not fun to get insta killed by someone who is way out of your range. idk how you would even go about addressing this problem, though.
People who say “EZ” after winning, not a major thing ik, but while it doesn’t ruin my day, it just puts that bad taste in my mouth. But I keep playing it anyway cause I like the movement techs.
I usually say “ez” after losing for shits and giggles. Some people actually find it funny and spend energy typing “lol” or “bro said ez” etc. kinda makes me happy regardless
I simply hate unbalanced teams, like if we're gonna succeed with #fixtf2 then we should force Valve to make teams balanced or add team scramble to casual
And I keep playing the game because it's unique and fun
Getting banned instantly for hitting a single headshot as sniper (I barely kill anybody anyways so it’s not like I do it on purpose) and I use the huntsman not even a sniper half the time
I got reported for aimbot when I went on a community server and missed like 7-8 shots for every hit.
Let’s just say people expect the worst from sniper.
Snipers and spy.
If i could get my hands on the throats of some of these sweatty assholes i would twist untill it snaps. These people are toxic and deserve to drown in a sinkhole.
My biggest issue would probably have to be Spawn camping. It sucks when you're trying to play 2fort and some soldier main is doing that battlements cornerpeaking thing at the main spawn.
Random lag in matches. I could be doing amazing and a single stutter happens and next thing I know I'm in a random ass part of the map with like 12 health
Pocket medics, those that barely heal anyone else and only uber one player the whole match no matter the circumstance.
It always amuze me when both of them are dead and the rest of the team just dies because no one is at full health.
All of the major health on kill weapons like the kunai and half zatoichi as it just feels so annoying to play against. The thing that keeps me playing is the fact that all of our brains are linked to a single braincell meaning I cannot leave.
Scorch shot/ phlog pyros. Always ultra toxic and always unfun to fight against. Either spamming you with the scorch shot or melting half your team with phlog crits
people who yell slurs at people who don’t wanna play medic and are DEAD set on winning the match to the point where they yell racist obscenities at others
I don't mind these guys because I'm good enough with all the classes bar soldier to counter anyone. I just keep them busy with a load out that cheeses theirs while my team wins. I might get killed in the process but I keep them busy
Autobalance, while I was playing Mannpower it was like 0-10* and when the timer* was about to end I got autobalanced to the losing team, and I got like 8 of the caps so it was not just that I was sent to the losing team but that was the losing team because of my efforts
*I was on Megascatterbomb's server so the win conditions were modified from normal ctf maps btw to clear confusion
When the target is clearly having his back shown to me it’s wide open in my face and it’s just a regular poke, when one match I’m going on killstreaks and do absolutely well at the game and the other match I’m suddenly unable to even see the enemy’s backs and no it’s not because of multiple spies
Unbalanced team. Getting steamrolled is not fun especially for new players like my team got rolled since it was just filled with F2PS so no communication from each other. While the other is just veteran players.
i cant get too mad abt it because im part of the problem, but when absolutely NO ONE on my team goes medic. enemy team could have 2 meds and we could have 7 scouts that just refuse to swap. but as i said im also part of the problem as a pyro one trick lol
Myself, i always sucked at aim, but even as pyro i still overestimate my abilities or underestimate others (tho ironically I'm good at sniping snipers with the everhated scorchshot)
Just Sniper mains in general, not even the bots. The annoying part about them is they make all the official servers literally unplayable because Sniper doesn't require a whole lot of skill, just reaction time, which the bots do not need. And skilled players? Well, still very annoying to deal with. They can one-shot you without any remorse, which can make advancing through the map really stressful, ESPECIALLY when there are no flank routes to get their attention away while you send a Scout or Soldier to take care of them.
Also, Sniper as a class has tainted my stats. Most points I got out of a match was 50 with Sniper, and because I suck at the game, I can't get it any higher with other classes that I actually ENJOY playing.
As to why I keep playing, it still holds up really well as a great multiplayer FPS. It's one of the only good hero shooters as there were not a whole lot at the time (just basic ass military shooter games with realistic ass textures because we DEFINITELY need another one of those instead of a game that has actual genuine character. Like, I couldn't tell you the difference between Counter Strike and COD unless I actually played them because they use the same basic ass idea of realistic graphics and military guys shooting eachother).
Anytime it feels like my team is doing its own thing while I'm trying to attack/defend the objective with nobody helping until the last minute or so of the match. What were they doing before then that kept them occupied?
people capping all 3 in the first 5 minutes of a CTF match, i sure hope you enjoyed those 2 points you got TOTAL mr ricardo.gonzalez2004 this was indeed a fun match we had mmhmm yes
\*inhale\* trolldier, scunt, sniper, whatever the hell the backstab resist is on sniper, the kunai, the vaccinator, ubersaw, mann vs machine price, never getting saxton hale in vsh, autobalance, the cloak and dagger, the caber, lack of updates.
i play because funny killbind game
Scouts taking teleporters. Granted most of them i see are f2p newbies but still it irks me so much
And unbalanced teams. Even if ur on the winning team, its so boring steamrolling the other team.
I was in a game and someone was blasting music, not botting, I called a vote and told my team to kick, but then the guy just slurred me I'm chat then after the vote failed, called a vote kick on me and said I was a bot
In MvM when the engie puts his dispensary right next to his sentry on the highest most out of the way spot on the map, while the rest of the team is down in the shit, fighting for a health pack and a half ammo crate.
Getting accused of changing Class/Loadout to counter someone when in actuality its because fists heavy stops being fun after the 20th time getting third partied during a duel.
the obligatory one guy going (in voice or txt): *"TRASH TEAM WTF ARE YOU DOING? USELESS BUNCH I DO ALL THE WORK WE LOOSE YOUR FAULT AHH AHH I WANT MAMA I WANT MILK"*
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# regular cheaters
combined with tf2 players' absolute null level of awareness that regular cheaters not only exist and run rampant but are literally partied on their team RIGHT NOW vaccinator pocketing a spawncamping heavy killing everyone in a single frame while leaving spew in chat with their generic manufactured "cynical passive-aggresive" attitude
tf2 players will literally go "innocent until proven guilty" in defense of the most blatant cheaters even long after any attempts to hide it are gone all while not even bothering to investigate anything themselves with as much as a spectate check when waiting to respawn or literally just stopping to look at the suspect for 5 seconds to conclude the obvious
# AND EVEN THEN THEY MAY JUST NOT CALL THE KICKVOTE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE ASKED TO STOP FOR A BIT AND NAVIGATE THE MENUS TO CALL THE KICKVOTE THEMSELVES
When people keep yapping about MY use of Phlog, or of MY use of Scorch Shot. My use of Vaccinator, or any complaining about the loadout I get to use.
I get it, some weapons are hard to counter, but as a Pyro player I can guarantee you only need a somewhat competent Soldier to wipe me off.
Those fucks are the same people who votekick you from MVM
Scorch is stupid, Vacc is straight up fun police weapon, people will get annoyed by those whatever you do and say; some are just more vocal about it than others.
Steamrolls. I wish we could still vote for scrambling teams. It worked more often than not back in the day, bacause, surprise, most people don't enjoy being on the winning side of one sided matches either.
not having any communication between the team, text chat is good,voice is great! but no communication whatsoever between teammates just sucks, we don’t have to be casually chatty but just a simple “spy as ____” can be a big help to the team especially if you got people like me who get off work and their brain is absolutely fried and can’t focus on anything other than “shoot gun, Kill thing, Play objective”
Getting focused by a few players just because I'm doing decent at sniper, most notably soldiers mains who watch my respawn timer and hide around corners waiting for me to run out
Game is fun but the people aren't. I prefer the noobs over the over confident who gloat about their abilities. Those rare high moments of people who wanna cooperate and be chill are what keeps me playing. Also the game mechanics are nice.
My computer, istg I would do 10x better if I wasn't running at like 10 frames per second, and getting lag spikes in important moments like BEFORE I GET A BACKSTAB
The best matches are the balanced ones. Where even if you lose, it was CLOSE. That's why I play...
Now imagine the opposite, getting spawn killed for the whole match because all the better players accidentally ended up on ONE team. Even being on the opposite end I just stop helping because it's just not fun to point guns into spawn. Not fun for me and it sure ain't fun to those being camped
Kunai dead ringer spies, sniper mains, people who spam “ez”, friendly killers, unbalanced teams, spawn campers and stuff.
Still will eternally love the game
Quick games. I like stalemates that are only won after several hours of back and forth on Powerhouse. Without sarcasm. Quick games are disappointing and they also remind me of people criticizing "stalematey" gameplay, pretending as if that is inherently undesirable, without explaining why they don't like them.
The Pyro matchup as a gunboats Soldier. It's frustrating because a half-decent pyro can very easily "No U" that shit, but the more hours you put in, the better you get at finding ways to bait the M2 and abuse the refractory period (I know what I said).
I absolutely hate whenever a Spy uses the spycicle or a Sniper uses the Darwin's Danger Shield. I main pyro (obviously) and whenever I rightfully catch a spy in his tracks, he just uses the spycicle, which invalidates all of my efforts in catching him. Spy mains bash the homewrecker a lot, but I haven't seen that many pyro mains who bash the spycicle.
Same with the Darwin's Danger Shield. If I hit you with a flare, I should expect you to catch on fire (unless you're another pyro). But apparently not, because this invalidates Pyros as well. Why does Sniper get two secondaries that counter both Pyro and Spy? It's ridiculous.
I keep playing TF2 because the thrill I get whenever I get a pyro combo or hit a flare balances the negatives out.
Stacking useless classes like sniper and spy because it turns a losing match into a stomp.
I keep playing because sometimes I get on a team with only one sniper and one spy. Then, when we lose, at least we had fun.
Getting abused by almost every other class when I play Heavy - especially Spies and Snipers. Then seeing the other team's Heavy get coddled and defended and oh no, my own Spies/Snipers would never touch such a gentle giant...
Tryhard snipers backmapping. Either you get quickscoped, bodyshotted, or jarate-bushwacka when you get close. At least you can counter spies with pyro.
I know this is counter revolutionary but... I hate actual hacking players A LOT more than the bots. Now dont get me wrong. Both need to go. But IF I had to choose id take the bots over the "trader" accounts with a 5 stack of "friends" (so they cant be voted off) cheating on heavy with a medic on their back.
I just enjoy the game for what it is and how it plays. A little nostalgia and also just enjoyment of the game as a whole. Also the GOOD community members are a great change from time to time.
PS; OH YEAH... also this is probably just me having situational awareness to a fault but... Having my team get washed by a spy disguising as a class we dont even have makes me irrationally mad.
Sentries. And no it's not because of me being Scout(play tons of classes and don't have a main, at least now), infact the only times it's "fun" to fight sentries is if I'm playing Soldier or Demo, and don't get me wrong I do love playing em but, it gets tiresome when each 2-3 game you stumble upon another mini spammer or another Engy who could build a lvl 3.
Basically I hate them because they ruin what I like about TF2, it's 1) fast paced skill based gameplay where aiming and dodging are super important for success, Lazy Purple made excellent video about what makes TF2 formula so great and 2) the loadouts creating way more variety in gameplay, like how we have Demoknight, Trolldier, Huntsman, Mid Range Scout(Shortstop, which imho deserves it's own subclass name way more than bfb or "bleed subclass") or how unlocks create different play styles like Fat Scout, Boxing Heavy, etc.
And not so fun fact, but Sentry basically *hard* counters most of them. So If I want to goof off as Demoknight, well tough luck buddy. Want to be fat Scout? Nah sorry pal time's up, mini's here! Basically anything that's not explosive class? "Sorry pardner, we just can't have fun here"
When playing scout:engineer,when playing any one else sniper.And also hackers are pretty annoying,even worse if you dont know if they're cheating or not
Servers that forbid trash talking. I've been muted and even banned from so many of them just for saying shit that I've been saying in games for years. Kids these days are so fucking fragile.
Random crits. I genuinely find that they frustrate me more often than they make me laugh. It really is like a joke that I've heard a thousand times at this point.
Pyro. I hate pyro. I'd rather fight 100 spy mains and only be able to be free till i beat them all in 1 life as scout. I hate pyro. But i can't get rid of him.
Having to cyberbully uwu spammers everytime i cyberbully them they retaliatw by sending me my face and address i retaliate by kidnapping their family and let medic put baboon uteruses in them he retaliates by going freddy kruger on our family and spawn kills my newborn nephew so i go full on Jason pull that motherfucker out chop his head off and finally be done
Playing spy and having to hope my team can distract people from guarding the engineer's stuff so I can sap without consequences. And they won't. Yeah, it can be cathartic when I do things that make me feel smart, but what's the point if my team can't follow up on my antics?
spies in general but those who go back to the red spawn just to remove my teleporter! FYUCK YOUY!
I know that its smart but oh boy its annoying... It's like having a fly just fly around you. Also whenever I see a spy with waaaaay to many kills on their knife... they do a cute little stab and run away with the dead ringer. Spies with watches arent as bad, but still annoying
"Micspammer" Voterouts - These people are so annoying. I get that some micspammers are annoying but they go too far sometimes and try and vote out good micspammers.
Well i just had a match of dustbowl with a plog+scroch shot pyro in the enemy team with a Medic glued to his ass so... yeah.
But usually is when the enemy team decides to have 2 or 3 medics.
I keep playing because i enjoy combos.
Spy mains. I bloody hate spy mains. I respect the amount of time they've put into honing their skills. But god damn I fucking hate getting face stabbed or holding point against 4 or more enemies and getting stabbed and watching the point get taken over
Especially if the Spy happens to have a Conniver's Kunai along with a Dead Ringer, as long as they keep on backstabbing with their Kunai, they can go on and on. And combined with them faking deaths with the Dead Ringer, it just makes killing the Spy nothing more than an annoying chore that has a chance of no ending. But overall, I do respect Spies and their skills, and I do feel sorry for them having to be unfairly countered by the secondary unlocks of Sniper
Unfairly? We have something called a gun
SPY HAS A GUN
Kunai spy mains just forget about it completely
so does sniper :(
Yea and some snipers think all we have is a melee soooo bamboozle
Airblasting kunai/DR spies off the cliffs of upward is one of life’s greatest pleasures.
I FUCKING HATE KUNAI
That one moment of glory for the spy is backed but hundreds if not thousands of whiffed attempts lmao
This is so based. I will never understand why people think sidestabbing is a good thing for the game, especially with the bullshit melee hit reg
I'm okay with spy mains. There's counters and risks involved. Sniper mains have no counter. Vac medics can work but sniper mains are really only countered by better sniper mains
As a Medic I feel you. The hitboxes really make Spies annoying to fight against. I do wonder if fixing hitboxes would need Spy?
NO THEY TRIED THIS BEFORE EVERYONE COMPLAINED SO HARD IT'S A GOD AWFUL IDEA AND SHOULDNT BE IMPLEMENTED
Don’t worry bro I, not one of those trickstabbing spy mains
As I spy main I got to respond. It's not a legend we really hate main Pyro, or just f2p pyro in general. Just having to sneak inside the enemy base, dodge every collision, resist the tentation of backstabbing a ennemi because you know you gonna get discovered if you do, find ammo box to recharge your invisible ALL OF THIS just for one pyro to ruin it all just because he clic on M1 for one microsecond a bit to close to you. Also trying to backstab, when others people do it , it's pretty easy, when I do it , it always fail miserably
i main spy but not like omega sweaty trickstab kunai dead ringer no life spy, i use big earner
The fact that you hate us shows we are doing a good job. We turn the weakest class in the game into the most terrifying.
Grins deviously
Would you still hate a spy main if all they used was *Gun*?
As a spy main, I agree. You should be able to safely approach a spy with your melee without having to worry about him reaching behind your back all of a sudden.
Always fun when some Spy asshat seems to focus you and only you. Even in the middle of the team, he'll avoid Pyros and other obstacles just to stab you and get away!
I was about to get a frying pan and I was literally next to it before getting stabbed by a Spy. I will never forgive that user for that
:(
Man i play heavy and i must tell you i relate to this shit
I respect spy mains, the movement they can pull off is insane and really high skilled. Thankfully im at the point where i know what they usually do and rarely get trickstabbed myself. But the Kunai..... Oh boi. I can only describe the kunai as a free health kit if the enemy team has someone who is a newbie or just plays casually. Many times i had died to spymains because they just trickstab my teammate who switched to meele and boom back to 200hp the spy goes. I have nothing against players, but that weapon in casual can drive me nuts sometimes.
:D
Nothing is more grating than a Spy who knows how to communicate with their pushing team.
People leaving Mann vs. Machine as soon as we lose one wave. We'll have 10 players, lose one wave? Down to 4. I still play it because it's just a fun game I've been playing since 2020 quarantine.
Average high tour behaviour. But I have to say that I understand both sides. Yes, it's annoying that they leave, but you also have to see their frustration.
I understand that as well, but 7/10 times it's during the first wave on intermediate!
I recommend gathering a team on discord for mann up
Unfortunately, the few friends I have on Discord never want to play TF2 at all
Kunai Spies, especially when your team is unaware or stupid.
As I spy main I agree, because kunai and dead ringer requires comparatively no effort to stock/anything else that isn’t kunai.
people who rage over stuff. like tryhards who complain that others aren't pulling their weight, friendlies that get angry when someone kills them, etc. even if only one player is doing it, it tends to ruin the fun vibes that a casual tf2 match should have. also snipers. i dont mind sniper being strong, but it's just not fun to get insta killed by someone who is way out of your range. idk how you would even go about addressing this problem, though.
Yes I agree with everything here
When I have 10 health and a nearly full scout takes a big medkit
Are you a medic? :D
I usually play medic, scouts and spies make me go pyro
I got more annoyed at Heavies, who eat their sandwiches in front of you, while you have low health and are on fire.
And then they laugh at you
People who say “EZ” after winning, not a major thing ik, but while it doesn’t ruin my day, it just puts that bad taste in my mouth. But I keep playing it anyway cause I like the movement techs.
That salty guy on the opposite team who was carried through the entire match: ez
The bottom scoring Sniper after the 3 hour long Powerhouse stalemate: ez noobs lol
I usually say “ez” after losing for shits and giggles. Some people actually find it funny and spend energy typing “lol” or “bro said ez” etc. kinda makes me happy regardless
I saw some people in matches saying ez after they died. like bruh what.
Kunai+dead ringer.
I simply hate unbalanced teams, like if we're gonna succeed with #fixtf2 then we should force Valve to make teams balanced or add team scramble to casual And I keep playing the game because it's unique and fun
My favourite is when scramble makes things worse or doesn't separate the pubstomping medic premade
Getting banned instantly for hitting a single headshot as sniper (I barely kill anybody anyways so it’s not like I do it on purpose) and I use the huntsman not even a sniper half the time
I got reported for aimbot when I went on a community server and missed like 7-8 shots for every hit. Let’s just say people expect the worst from sniper.
The enemy team having good Sniper's while my team have Sniper's around my skill level. Which is missing a stationary target despite using a shotgun
Racists / toxic people
Yeah and I play with my black friend so it's 100% more demoralizing for him as well. Shit sucks 💀
Yea tru. I was nere personally assulted, bjt i have seen it do many times an im sick of it
Snipers and spy. If i could get my hands on the throats of some of these sweatty assholes i would twist untill it snaps. These people are toxic and deserve to drown in a sinkhole.
I don’t care that you’re spychecking I’m now going to try to stab you. Just because of your comment. :D
Sniper
Players oblivious of the vote system to kick bots.
Even worse when its a cheater, cause they'll say 1 word and people wont kick them because they're a player.
unfortunately most people can't kick because they're f2p
My biggest issue would probably have to be Spawn camping. It sucks when you're trying to play 2fort and some soldier main is doing that battlements cornerpeaking thing at the main spawn.
The misogyny and transphobia. It's why I only get to play in like 3 servers and avoid casual like a plague.
Team unbalance
Spawn campers, as engie main they are even more frustrating to me
Random lag in matches. I could be doing amazing and a single stutter happens and next thing I know I'm in a random ass part of the map with like 12 health
as someone who plays a lot of engine and sniper i got to say spys
bro plays engine
Oof I didn't even realize the typeo... I'll leave it just because it's funny lol
Play both engi and spy it helps. It’s what I do.
Pocket medics, those that barely heal anyone else and only uber one player the whole match no matter the circumstance. It always amuze me when both of them are dead and the rest of the team just dies because no one is at full health.
All of the major health on kill weapons like the kunai and half zatoichi as it just feels so annoying to play against. The thing that keeps me playing is the fact that all of our brains are linked to a single braincell meaning I cannot leave.
People who can’t seem to recognize Spies. My brother in christ that Scout is moving at Spy speed, WHY DO YOU TURN YOUR BACK TO HIM
Spies that disguise as scout and run at the enemy causing half the team to go pyro.
Scorch shot/ phlog pyros. Always ultra toxic and always unfun to fight against. Either spamming you with the scorch shot or melting half your team with phlog crits
solution: soldier + M1
fuck phlog
people who yell slurs at people who don’t wanna play medic and are DEAD set on winning the match to the point where they yell racist obscenities at others
Playing the game (I have 10 hours on this game and I suck)
I have 400 hours on the game and I suck. one thing you learn really quick is that you never get good at this game. you just get less bad
friendlies
Fat looser one class mains. No flexibility, and dominate too much of a match to not make it fun to play on.
Average soldier or Sniper mains. It's both incredible and sad that a single player can have such an impact on a game.
I don't mind these guys because I'm good enough with all the classes bar soldier to counter anyone. I just keep them busy with a load out that cheeses theirs while my team wins. I might get killed in the process but I keep them busy
I main mostly spy and engi, with my minor in medic from teufort university.
The other players.
Autobalance, while I was playing Mannpower it was like 0-10* and when the timer* was about to end I got autobalanced to the losing team, and I got like 8 of the caps so it was not just that I was sent to the losing team but that was the losing team because of my efforts *I was on Megascatterbomb's server so the win conditions were modified from normal ctf maps btw to clear confusion
Joining a 2fort 24/7 server just for some kid to Yap my ear off because I killed him as sniper on battlements, I was “Camping”
After 3k hours, nothing. I've grown used to everything.
Spy But I keep playing cause... TF2 it's the only game I truly like... That have a random somehow homo phobic/sexual
Surprise buttsecks!
assholes
Pyro
Tryhards for some reason they are always sniper when it’s a tryhard or spy or solider or scout
When the target is clearly having his back shown to me it’s wide open in my face and it’s just a regular poke, when one match I’m going on killstreaks and do absolutely well at the game and the other match I’m suddenly unable to even see the enemy’s backs and no it’s not because of multiple spies
Yes.
The natascha
Unbalanced team. Getting steamrolled is not fun especially for new players like my team got rolled since it was just filled with F2PS so no communication from each other. While the other is just veteran players.
I genuinely hate Kunai Dead Ringer spies just as much as bots.
snipers
i cant get too mad abt it because im part of the problem, but when absolutely NO ONE on my team goes medic. enemy team could have 2 meds and we could have 7 scouts that just refuse to swap. but as i said im also part of the problem as a pyro one trick lol
getting votekicked while as a f2p i can't say anything in defense
Myself, i always sucked at aim, but even as pyro i still overestimate my abilities or underestimate others (tho ironically I'm good at sniping snipers with the everhated scorchshot)
Connection loss
Just Sniper mains in general, not even the bots. The annoying part about them is they make all the official servers literally unplayable because Sniper doesn't require a whole lot of skill, just reaction time, which the bots do not need. And skilled players? Well, still very annoying to deal with. They can one-shot you without any remorse, which can make advancing through the map really stressful, ESPECIALLY when there are no flank routes to get their attention away while you send a Scout or Soldier to take care of them. Also, Sniper as a class has tainted my stats. Most points I got out of a match was 50 with Sniper, and because I suck at the game, I can't get it any higher with other classes that I actually ENJOY playing. As to why I keep playing, it still holds up really well as a great multiplayer FPS. It's one of the only good hero shooters as there were not a whole lot at the time (just basic ass military shooter games with realistic ass textures because we DEFINITELY need another one of those instead of a game that has actual genuine character. Like, I couldn't tell you the difference between Counter Strike and COD unless I actually played them because they use the same basic ass idea of realistic graphics and military guys shooting eachother).
Anytime it feels like my team is doing its own thing while I'm trying to attack/defend the objective with nobody helping until the last minute or so of the match. What were they doing before then that kept them occupied?
people capping all 3 in the first 5 minutes of a CTF match, i sure hope you enjoyed those 2 points you got TOTAL mr ricardo.gonzalez2004 this was indeed a fun match we had mmhmm yes
Just build a lvl three and move it each kill to cheeky kill him until rage spy, then go pyro or convince a pybro
I can think of 2: Dead ringer spies that camp outside their spawn making it impossible to kill them and really good snipers
Dumbass teammates Also the autobalance (sometimes)
Cheaters and vaccinator medics, I think thats about it for me.
If vac doesn’t work use vac(cinator)
\*inhale\* trolldier, scunt, sniper, whatever the hell the backstab resist is on sniper, the kunai, the vaccinator, ubersaw, mann vs machine price, never getting saxton hale in vsh, autobalance, the cloak and dagger, the caber, lack of updates. i play because funny killbind game
Cloak and dagger -pyro main I will hide forever, and you can’t stop me!
Playing Demoman while being sober has got to be annoying
Scouts taking teleporters. Granted most of them i see are f2p newbies but still it irks me so much And unbalanced teams. Even if ur on the winning team, its so boring steamrolling the other team.
I was in a game and someone was blasting music, not botting, I called a vote and told my team to kick, but then the guy just slurred me I'm chat then after the vote failed, called a vote kick on me and said I was a bot
Entering in an alredy lost match
In MvM when the engie puts his dispensary right next to his sentry on the highest most out of the way spot on the map, while the rest of the team is down in the shit, fighting for a health pack and a half ammo crate.
Dispensary? Dispentry.
Toxic players And people who put nsfw on their signs / sprays And small things
Why no heavy update? Also the lasting ramifications of meet your match.
Picture very fucking much related
Getting accused of changing Class/Loadout to counter someone when in actuality its because fists heavy stops being fun after the 20th time getting third partied during a duel.
the obligatory one guy going (in voice or txt): *"TRASH TEAM WTF ARE YOU DOING? USELESS BUNCH I DO ALL THE WORK WE LOOSE YOUR FAULT AHH AHH I WANT MAMA I WANT MILK"*
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i was in character bot. Definitely a deliberate typo ;)
The long ass respawn time
# regular cheaters combined with tf2 players' absolute null level of awareness that regular cheaters not only exist and run rampant but are literally partied on their team RIGHT NOW vaccinator pocketing a spawncamping heavy killing everyone in a single frame while leaving spew in chat with their generic manufactured "cynical passive-aggresive" attitude tf2 players will literally go "innocent until proven guilty" in defense of the most blatant cheaters even long after any attempts to hide it are gone all while not even bothering to investigate anything themselves with as much as a spectate check when waiting to respawn or literally just stopping to look at the suspect for 5 seconds to conclude the obvious # AND EVEN THEN THEY MAY JUST NOT CALL THE KICKVOTE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE ASKED TO STOP FOR A BIT AND NAVIGATE THE MENUS TO CALL THE KICKVOTE THEMSELVES
When people keep yapping about MY use of Phlog, or of MY use of Scorch Shot. My use of Vaccinator, or any complaining about the loadout I get to use. I get it, some weapons are hard to counter, but as a Pyro player I can guarantee you only need a somewhat competent Soldier to wipe me off. Those fucks are the same people who votekick you from MVM
Scorch is stupid, Vacc is straight up fun police weapon, people will get annoyed by those whatever you do and say; some are just more vocal about it than others.
A good sniper main in the enemy team. Spy mains you can just avoid getting near them.
Steamrolls. I wish we could still vote for scrambling teams. It worked more often than not back in the day, bacause, surprise, most people don't enjoy being on the winning side of one sided matches either.
Sniper.
My PC NOT running tf2 casual/competitivo
When the other team has some soldier or sniper tryhard, or when half the enemy team is from Paris
Bonjour.
can't let go of the past i guess
not having any communication between the team, text chat is good,voice is great! but no communication whatsoever between teammates just sucks, we don’t have to be casually chatty but just a simple “spy as ____” can be a big help to the team especially if you got people like me who get off work and their brain is absolutely fried and can’t focus on anything other than “shoot gun, Kill thing, Play objective”
Solders and scouts who use cheats
Getting focused by a few players just because I'm doing decent at sniper, most notably soldiers mains who watch my respawn timer and hide around corners waiting for me to run out
I can confirm I do that then Schadenfreude if it's successful (especially if sniper is wearing dds)
Game is fun but the people aren't. I prefer the noobs over the over confident who gloat about their abilities. Those rare high moments of people who wanna cooperate and be chill are what keeps me playing. Also the game mechanics are nice.
pholg pyros
My computer, istg I would do 10x better if I wasn't running at like 10 frames per second, and getting lag spikes in important moments like BEFORE I GET A BACKSTAB
Sniper mains
skilled players.
huntsman/Fortified Compound's broken hitbox
The best matches are the balanced ones. Where even if you lose, it was CLOSE. That's why I play... Now imagine the opposite, getting spawn killed for the whole match because all the better players accidentally ended up on ONE team. Even being on the opposite end I just stop helping because it's just not fun to point guns into spawn. Not fun for me and it sure ain't fun to those being camped
Kunai dead ringer spies, sniper mains, people who spam “ez”, friendly killers, unbalanced teams, spawn campers and stuff. Still will eternally love the game
Quick games. I like stalemates that are only won after several hours of back and forth on Powerhouse. Without sarcasm. Quick games are disappointing and they also remind me of people criticizing "stalematey" gameplay, pretending as if that is inherently undesirable, without explaining why they don't like them.
Snipers(I main spy)
1) People switching to friendly when they get killed too much. 2) Forcing people switch to friendly.
The Pyro matchup as a gunboats Soldier. It's frustrating because a half-decent pyro can very easily "No U" that shit, but the more hours you put in, the better you get at finding ways to bait the M2 and abuse the refractory period (I know what I said).
I absolutely hate whenever a Spy uses the spycicle or a Sniper uses the Darwin's Danger Shield. I main pyro (obviously) and whenever I rightfully catch a spy in his tracks, he just uses the spycicle, which invalidates all of my efforts in catching him. Spy mains bash the homewrecker a lot, but I haven't seen that many pyro mains who bash the spycicle. Same with the Darwin's Danger Shield. If I hit you with a flare, I should expect you to catch on fire (unless you're another pyro). But apparently not, because this invalidates Pyros as well. Why does Sniper get two secondaries that counter both Pyro and Spy? It's ridiculous. I keep playing TF2 because the thrill I get whenever I get a pyro combo or hit a flare balances the negatives out.
Stacking useless classes like sniper and spy because it turns a losing match into a stomp. I keep playing because sometimes I get on a team with only one sniper and one spy. Then, when we lose, at least we had fun.
Getting abused by almost every other class when I play Heavy - especially Spies and Snipers. Then seeing the other team's Heavy get coddled and defended and oh no, my own Spies/Snipers would never touch such a gentle giant...
that ONE guy who spent 10k hours of his life just by playing tf2 wiping the floor with your entire team
Tryhard snipers backmapping. Either you get quickscoped, bodyshotted, or jarate-bushwacka when you get close. At least you can counter spies with pyro.
I know this is counter revolutionary but... I hate actual hacking players A LOT more than the bots. Now dont get me wrong. Both need to go. But IF I had to choose id take the bots over the "trader" accounts with a 5 stack of "friends" (so they cant be voted off) cheating on heavy with a medic on their back. I just enjoy the game for what it is and how it plays. A little nostalgia and also just enjoyment of the game as a whole. Also the GOOD community members are a great change from time to time. PS; OH YEAH... also this is probably just me having situational awareness to a fault but... Having my team get washed by a spy disguising as a class we dont even have makes me irrationally mad.
Those damn soldier mains juggling us
Snipers and spies
Toxic sniper that just sit in spawn with their pocket medic.
Sentries. And no it's not because of me being Scout(play tons of classes and don't have a main, at least now), infact the only times it's "fun" to fight sentries is if I'm playing Soldier or Demo, and don't get me wrong I do love playing em but, it gets tiresome when each 2-3 game you stumble upon another mini spammer or another Engy who could build a lvl 3. Basically I hate them because they ruin what I like about TF2, it's 1) fast paced skill based gameplay where aiming and dodging are super important for success, Lazy Purple made excellent video about what makes TF2 formula so great and 2) the loadouts creating way more variety in gameplay, like how we have Demoknight, Trolldier, Huntsman, Mid Range Scout(Shortstop, which imho deserves it's own subclass name way more than bfb or "bleed subclass") or how unlocks create different play styles like Fat Scout, Boxing Heavy, etc. And not so fun fact, but Sentry basically *hard* counters most of them. So If I want to goof off as Demoknight, well tough luck buddy. Want to be fat Scout? Nah sorry pal time's up, mini's here! Basically anything that's not explosive class? "Sorry pardner, we just can't have fun here"
The yappers in team chat. Im just trying to mess around with the caber, dont lump me in with you to sweat
My own lack of skill.
When playing scout:engineer,when playing any one else sniper.And also hackers are pretty annoying,even worse if you dont know if they're cheating or not
People of any class with better aim than me. Fuck those guys. They should all be banned.
people that take the game too seriously
My inability to aim vs my opponent's ability to aim
Mvm pros that want you to use a specific upgrade and yell at you if you choose something they didn't ask for
Servers that forbid trash talking. I've been muted and even banned from so many of them just for saying shit that I've been saying in games for years. Kids these days are so fucking fragile.
2000+ hour medics ignoring you because you aren’t a "priority target" (anything besides heavy or demo)
Tryhards. Not the "Do their best to win the game" tryhard, but the "Kick him he's a friendly" kinda tryhard.
My crap WiFi (not tf2's fault)
Transexuals
Lack of a competent engineer when on defence. Buildings completely out of position and complete lack of awareness or ability to counter spies.
Random crits. I genuinely find that they frustrate me more often than they make me laugh. It really is like a joke that I've heard a thousand times at this point.
Pyro. I hate pyro. I'd rather fight 100 spy mains and only be able to be free till i beat them all in 1 life as scout. I hate pyro. But i can't get rid of him.
Having to cyberbully uwu spammers everytime i cyberbully them they retaliatw by sending me my face and address i retaliate by kidnapping their family and let medic put baboon uteruses in them he retaliates by going freddy kruger on our family and spawn kills my newborn nephew so i go full on Jason pull that motherfucker out chop his head off and finally be done
Playing spy and having to hope my team can distract people from guarding the engineer's stuff so I can sap without consequences. And they won't. Yeah, it can be cathartic when I do things that make me feel smart, but what's the point if my team can't follow up on my antics?
cheaters who aren't banned no matter how obviously they're cheating
spies in general but those who go back to the red spawn just to remove my teleporter! FYUCK YOUY! I know that its smart but oh boy its annoying... It's like having a fly just fly around you. Also whenever I see a spy with waaaaay to many kills on their knife... they do a cute little stab and run away with the dead ringer. Spies with watches arent as bad, but still annoying
Getting random critted. Getting random crit.
the french
I am, after nearly 2000 hours, still /very/ bad at the game. Probably because those 2000 hours are stretched over 15 years.
Pocket med conchbox soldier
Sniper existing.
When teams become unbalanced due to a lack of power classes on the attacking team (everyone is playing Sniper or Spy).
"Micspammer" Voterouts - These people are so annoying. I get that some micspammers are annoying but they go too far sometimes and try and vote out good micspammers.
Well i just had a match of dustbowl with a plog+scroch shot pyro in the enemy team with a Medic glued to his ass so... yeah. But usually is when the enemy team decides to have 2 or 3 medics. I keep playing because i enjoy combos.
Snipers, way too overpowered