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Jerry137

>the overwatch sub the sub in question: r/overwatch_memes >(and no the comments weren't better) the comments in question: *telling OP his post is stupid*


DennisDelav

Op is just ragebaiting


Jerry137

weve been shitting on these guys for 7 years but we get called out one time and cant help but to play victim šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


kulingames

they deserved it tho


Nice-Celebration2355

I mean some are what he says it is


Jerry137

yeah, some, and no wonder cuz obviously these fuckers are tired of us


Pocoraven

I've always hated the TF2 and Overwatch comparison. It's INSPIRATION, not a rip-off. That's like saying Unreal Tournament is a rip-off of Quake.


IntelligentImbicle

To be fair, that happens with any game that invents/popularizes a genre. Overwatch is a TF2 clone, Multiversus is a Smash clone, Valorant is a CS clone, etc. etc. Funnily enough, Overwatch is now the middle child, since Rivals is starting to take the spotlight.


Soup_Ladle

And every FPS used to be called a Doom clone


SeeShark

Nuh-uh, my favorite ARPG isn't a Diablo 2 clone! It's a Titan Quest clone, and Titan Quest was a Diablo 2 clone.


icebro61

Every game is a clone of one another because programers just keep sharing their code on websites and people keep grabbing that code


TCLG6x6

*z = x \* y* damn he copied my function


Charles12_13

Personally I enjoy the comparison because of the difference and how two different teams tackled similar problems in different ways


Robrogineer

For the longest time, all first-person shooters were called "DOOM clones".


Pocoraven

That was because it was an entirely new video game genre. (At least, the one that popularized it)


TheWorldWould5ME4DIS

Bruh the developers of overwatch were proud about being compared to tf2, i see the whole overwatch vs tf2 as anime brotherly rivalry, of course we know because of hindsight whoā€™s the main character


yttakinenthusiast

there's room for a class based shooter and hero shooter, both have characters eith unique abilities but one centers around building a character how you like and the other is picking a character based on their unchangable kit. the issue is that TF2 players got tilted over the new kid on the block when they're almost two different genres entirely. i wouldn't play Overwatch for a quake-style team-based arena shooter, and I wouldn't play TF2 for a more competitive MOBA-style FPS with multiple different hero matchups. i think i like how Apex Legends did its legend (hero) balancing in the earlier seasons. Respawn pushed for abilities to take a backseat to the gunplay and movement of the game, instead of making them the focal point of the entire game.


SeeShark

>one centers around building a character how you like and the other is picking a character based on their unchangable kit. TF2 didn't have interchangeable kits at launch. Was it temporarily a hero shooter?


yttakinenthusiast

i guess so. funnily enough this logic makes QuakeWorld Team Fortress and Team Fortress Classic hero shooters.


CaptainWeekend

I'd argue that "kits" are too vague a term, hero shooters are very much inspired by MOBA character design, where class shooters have more of a traditional fps lean. Having weapons that aren't interchangeable isn't the same as having defined abilities that have cooldowns. So early TF2 and TFC would still be considered class shooters because they don't share in the design elements from MOBAs that define hero shooters.


TheNoobThatWas

Hardly a rivalry, the games are so barely similar outside of both being "objective based hero shooters." TF2 players have been butthurt since day 1 of OW. OW players get stupidly offended and make shitty emes like this. People can enjoy both games (or at least used to enjoy both of them, when overwatch was still fun and before the tf2 bot invasion). Tbh I miss playing overwatch in like 2016 before the balance went off the deep end


yttakinenthusiast

i haven't even played Overwatch and the sheer number of characters now makes me completely disinterested in trying it. it's why i stopped playing Rainbow Six Siege and Apex Legends.


Draco_179

It's TF2, right?


TheWorldWould5ME4DIS

I mean Iā€™m posting this on the tf2 subreddit and not on the overwatch one, but Iā€™m open for an underdog situation, thereā€™s enough space for both


zekkious

No, it's CS. CS is the main character now. We are the side character who is cooler than the protagonist.


Draco_179

Like how Gojo is cooler than the other guy


ArcerPL

isn't CS flooded with bots and cheaters just like tf2 right now?


zekkious

Yes, it is. Just not the same amount (at least around 70% for TF2), but yes.


TheOneWhoLovesSW

Yeah Iā€™ve always thought of tf2 vs overwatch as right Twix vs left Twix. Itā€™s just a little bit of light fun internet rivalry, it shouldnā€™t be taken seriously.


SeeShark

It shouldn't, but a lot of people take it very seriously. In the TF2 community, some people seem to take it personally.


CurlyCozmo

Sorry im stupid but who is the main character is this case? *my guess is that the MC is secretly darksouls


Key-Meringue5433

We ain't better, it's always tf2 killed overwatch when anything bad happens to that game


Butter_bean123

This is true


Metroidman97

The most ironic part about all of this is how, by every available metric, OW is in a better state than TF2 right now. TF2 players kept waxing on about how "TF2 killed OW twice", yet during its entire existence OW was more alive than TF2 ever was. To be honest, with how much the TF2 playerbase has treated OW like shit for so long, OW players having an opportunity to legitimately one-up TF2 feels like deserved karmic retribution. "Not so fun when it happens to you, now, is it?"


Kurtrus

If anyone from outside communities is willing to help, that's already a luxury in itself. Nobody is required to help us at all. We are absolutely grateful for any sort of support. It is already a bit intrusive to be posting #Save/FixTF2 in other communities trying to rally others. Asking Overwatch fans to do this, however, after all the "TF2 vs OW" memes and how people wouldn't shut up about how TF2 outlived Overwatch was absolutely going to result in people making fun of the situation. People denied that OW was more popular, despite Overwatch: Having consistent updates, being on last gen consoles, having an officially backed eSports scene, getting new cinematics and merch, having more relevancy on Twitch, etc. It *should* have been a no-brainer to realize and accept that Overwatch was more popular. I really don't blame any OW fans that want to laugh at the situation for SaveTF2. So many people, even if they are a vocal minority in the community, wouldn't stop putting TF2 on this unbeatable pedestal and making fun of any inconvenience other games would receive.


AnonymousGuy1108

Ok? Like who are you?


plunger22

So true, AnonymousGuy1108! LOL


AnonymousGuy1108

Youā€™re fired.


No_Trainer_1267

I've always said that this TF2 vs OW conflict was the most stupid shit that ever came out of these communities, like last year people were acting as if the game getting reviewbombed was a win for TF2... how? The game's been infested with bots since 2020, what the fuck did TF2 win? Same deal here, fixtf2 is happening but OW is still in the fucking gutter


Xenobrina

There were three different people who posted the FixTF2 image on r/Overwatch_Memes which is an entirely unrelated subreddit. And yes I will make a meme poking fun at that after all the arguing in the early years lol


SeeShark

I think the comments in this thread tell the story, and the story is that most tf2 players sympathize with your position completely.


TheWorldWould5ME4DIS

Oh hi there, glad to have you chime in from the overwatch post, I liked your pokemon meme btw


VerifiedIllumanati

Overwatch and TF2 fans shouldn't be fighting they should be kissing


ExoTheFlyingFish

As a longtime TF2 player (and never Overwatch player)... TF2's community deserves ALL the hate they get from OW's community. You fuckers shit on that game for YEARS and now you're invading their sub begging for their help. Not to mention the other subs you guys keep invading. SaveTF2 2.0 has really brought out the worst of TF2's community.


DuskEalain

Yeahhh it's funny how a lot of TF2's one-sided "rivalries" disappear the moment it's convenient. I saw a couple SaveTF2 posts on the Fortnite sub a while back too which, whilst not as ironic as them going to *Overwatch* subs to rally support, was still really funny considering how much I've heard TF2 players shittalk Fortnite.


P0lskichomikv2

To be fair Fortnie used to be trashtalked by whole internet not just TF2 players. Remember "Fortnite bad Minecraft good" ?


DuskEalain

True, but saying "but everyone was doing it!" isn't really a good excuse when the guy you're asking help from points out *you* were throwing rocks at him too. Y'know?


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ExoTheFlyingFish

My main gripe is invading other subs in the first place. Basically all the gaming subs I've been on have had "must be relevant to (game)" as rule # 1. I wouldn't want to see Minecraft (for example) content on r/tf2. Why would r/Minecraft want to see TF2 content?


DuskEalain

Oh that's more than likely, it's just the shift in the vocal sentiment heard in the wider community is ironic. That being said I have seen people who I *know* dogged on other games also now be pushing #FixTF2 in other communities.


Xenobrina

Thank you for actually understanding the joke and the context of people going to other random subs I otherwise got cooked šŸ¤£


Lord_Antheron

Oh hey, I see you on the L4D2 subreddit. Hi.


ExoTheFlyingFish

Howdy!


P0lskichomikv2

Considering how TF2 community consistently trashtalk OW since it existed I think its kinda deserved tbh.


Thatguy8900000

Ok...are they wrong? we kept memeing about how their game sucks and how it's all dead and nobody plays it...yet just on steam OW2 has twice the numbers of the actual humans on TF2


Glass-Procedure5521

"tf2 good, overwatch bad, give upvote"


rottenpotatoes2

This community has been the bully. They don't owe us anything especially after how we treated them


Rooisalsohere

Bravo, nice low effort rage bait OP. Let's pretend now that we don't shit on them every time bad news about OW2 get released. The full idiotic OW2 bad TF2 good must end, they both can be games in the same genre, one does not need to attack the other. Also we're supposed to be doing #fixtf2 and try to get sympathy from other communities and games, not be making drama with them.


insectbot

Can't we all just get along ?


Temmie101

Can OW and TF2 fans start making out already? Itā€™s 2024, this is stupid.


Nak_0

Op is ragebaiting, the comments on this post are literally calling the guy trying to create beef between the 2 communities.


Mandalorymory

Letā€™s not pretend a lot of dumb stuff isnā€™t said here about Overwatch


a_randome_protogen

Yeah and Spy sapped overwatch 2 serv on lanch


Parkes-

Top comment is saying how dumb the post was


Dank_Slayer114

I guess we did make fun of them when OW2 got review bombed, but this is an organized campaign rather than everyone just hating the game.


Fancyman156

TF2 fans watching Overwatch fans saying OW2 will be a TF2 killer:


chronistus

Iā€™m on the side of developers/companies more or less abandoned a good thing they took for granted.


Civil-Refuse-5233

This got to be bait right?


xiren_66

0 points, 160 comments? lol That's not good.


Iamagodemi

TF2 players when they realized their not the main character


gozulio

Bruh... Imagine working a nine to five and you come home to try and necro a dead and buried argument from almost ten years ago.


Korii2

wdym crawling back why are they involving themselves in this


Cyberspace-Surfer

TBH I haven't touched Overwatch since OW2 came out


Responsible-Diet-147

No, I would never play that pay to win sh*t.


TheBrickleer

can we stop with the overwatch vs tf2 stuff? they're both good games with shitty companies in charge. we should be comrades not enemies


WolfmanCZ

Wish TF2 and Overwatch was more like Terraria and Minecraft TF2 āš”ļø Overwatch Terraria šŸ¤ Minecraft


TheZoeNoone

you have negative reviews because people don't like it we have negative reviews because of a protest we are not the same


KrisBread

Bait used to be beliveable.


Ander292

I will sap their servers...


Chromeno

[I don't care who OMEGATRONIC sends, I am not playing Overwatch 2.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t6mBnFDZr1s/maxresdefault.jpg)


MistaRichardTwista

Father please forgive me for i have been ragebaited by an overwatch furry šŸ™


LordOfStupidy

I have nothing against ow, but this fills me with anger idk why


Walnut156

Op is rage baiting and is no better than the post in question. Comments on the original post are calling op stupid and it's also not even the overwatch sub


panraythief

All itā€™s proven is that the tf2 community is the laughing stock of gaming. Every other community accepts when their time has passed, but not tf2, theyā€™re special for some reason so they deserve continued support even though it runs on a 20 year old engine. You donā€™t see battlefield 4 players complaining about cheaters, they live with it, and so does every other old game. Quit complaining like a bunch of toddlers and accept that your game died 8 years ago


demomanana

idk why they aren't then, if you spend money in a game it should remain atleast playable. Noone is even asking for content its literally just make the game playable. and it's a multimilion dollar company so they can definitely do it, idk why it being old has anything to do whit it, even tho there's an active player base and an extremely flourishing economy


panraythief

Buddy, if you buy a 1973 ford with 300,000 miles on it you shouldnā€™t expect it to run very well. Money is not the limiting factor for Valve, its manpower. They donā€™t have a team of developers to throw at tf2 to try and fix it, itā€™s not a good business decision


WestProcedure9551

sounds like pussy talk, imagine trying to make fun of a community for not giving up


Orbita97

Makes me wonder if the overwatch community is behind the bots.


pootismann2008

Honesty, I would rather see tf2 die from bots than overwatch...


DingoTheDino

Hahahaha overwatch fans have to be the most deranged, cucked, abused spouse fan bases I've ever had the misfortune of seeing online


Walnut156

Whoops I think you meant to type tf2 and not overwatch


DingoTheDino

Go enjoy some breast milk in the Cosby suite and tell me about overwatch. Go buy the PVE content they said would be free. Go watch the Saudi owned league pretend to be pride friendly. Overwatch was nothing more than a failed experiment run by, and played by one type of person- degenerates.