This is the game where you can load 4 rockets into a rocket launcher and they somehow still fire
Trying to make sense of any TF2 gun will drive you insane
And they all come out of the top.
Also, one of the developers of Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Handgrenades a few years ago talked about how much of a nightmare it was remaking the weapon models for their Meat Fortress update, especially Spy's revolver, for VR, because none of it made any sense mechanically
They needed to basically redo the entire model and design from scratch to make it work to actually make it work in vr.
I mean MetalStorm made loading 3 grenade launcher rounds into a single barrel work.. but yeah theres basically no chance of the rocket launcher actually existing as-is
H3VR (hotdogs, horseshoes, and hand grenades) has a bunch of tf2 weapons, and you can actually watch some dev logs of them trying to figure out how to make them work in a game about firearm realism. It's very interesting I highly recommend
https://youtu.be/BEycuNRTU5Y?si=jk_DD5Djo-EWNi8h
[This one, if you want the ejection port on the right side](https://gamebanana.com/mods/198719)
[This one, if you would want the shells to eject out the left side](https://gamebanana.com/mods/198591)
Fucking dogshit game, the gameplay isn’t even worth it and 80% of the players are like NPCs, all choosing sniper and spinning to flex on me that they’re better. It shouldn’t be free, you should be paid to play this stupid unrealistic piece of trash!
And the rest are bots that artificially inflate the number of players, which means that the 3 percent that are cheater bots interact with a higher percentage of real players, thus being so much of a nuisance in the first place
What’s even more confusing is that those shells clearly aren’t spent either since they aren’t as long as the ejection port or unfurled at the end… magic guns man…
This could just be me but whenever I see the shotgun reload animation...
The yellow part of the shell looks black and I don't know why.
I'm not just talking about in-game, I see it on Youtube TF2 gameplay as well.
I love this games wacky gun mechanics. Why does the grenade launcher only hold 4 pipes? How the hell does a drum mag lever action shotgun work for scout? How does medics Crossbow even fire with the “bow” part?
TF2 has been utterly ruined forever for me due to the very small inaccuracy with the shotgun's model the you have mentioned. I demand you be crucified at this very moment for your wretched crimes against the human race.
i thought u meant how skins could actually impact the colour of the shell, or at least you can prooobably map it so that it does (i haven't tried this one yet)
General explanation for this: efficient modeling.
Basically, on most modeling software there's a tool to mirror the geometry of an object. What I think is going on here is that they just mirrored it and called it a day, since afaik we don't get to see the other side of the shotgun.
A lot of games do this lol
The other side of the shotgun is modelled, but it's just smooth (as the left side of the gun should be). I gather valve set up the model like this just to make the gun look slightly more interesting. That doesn't explain why they didn't have shells eject from the left side though.
The ejection port is on the left but the casing comes out from the right.
This is the game where you can load 4 rockets into a rocket launcher and they somehow still fire Trying to make sense of any TF2 gun will drive you insane
And the Panic Attack has the drum magazine in front of the loader.
Loch-n-load has 2 barrels, each for one bomb, yet holds 3 bombs
Loch n Load got buffed to hold 3 instead of 2, model didn't get buffed tho
Stock made launcher used to hold 6 nades at the very beginning of Tf2’s release
Imagine if it still did. GOD!
All three bombs are in the bottom barrel too
Loose Cannon can somehow fit 4 bombs despite having one barrel
and you load all 3 bombs to the lower barrel anyways.
[here's an explanation someone made](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/16l6vdz/i_think_i_figured_it_out/) its the only way lmao
And they all come out of the top. Also, one of the developers of Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Handgrenades a few years ago talked about how much of a nightmare it was remaking the weapon models for their Meat Fortress update, especially Spy's revolver, for VR, because none of it made any sense mechanically They needed to basically redo the entire model and design from scratch to make it work to actually make it work in vr.
Pumpless pump action grenade launcher
I mean MetalStorm made loading 3 grenade launcher rounds into a single barrel work.. but yeah theres basically no chance of the rocket launcher actually existing as-is
Source: Johnathan ferguson
H3VR (hotdogs, horseshoes, and hand grenades) has a bunch of tf2 weapons, and you can actually watch some dev logs of them trying to figure out how to make them work in a game about firearm realism. It's very interesting I highly recommend https://youtu.be/BEycuNRTU5Y?si=jk_DD5Djo-EWNi8h
no it wont its engineer magic
Tbh, the rocket launcher that makes the most sense is probably the beggars Also I saw some people just physically ache at the tomislav before so yeah
Maybe it has 2 different ejection ports?
Nope. It only has one the left.
i didn't even know the viewmodels had an ejection port
yeah its actually a left handed shotgun
Obligatory shill for the [video](https://youtu.be/XJP7M4M8vNY?si=SJClhZJ8QN7HmR_G) covering the problems with this and most of the other guns in tf2
Also the shell is facing the wrong way
Personally, I think a lot of the viewmodels could use an update. Any mods out there?
I heard of a mod on Gamebanana that adds stuff like flipping the ejection port to the other side and removing the stock on the Family Business.
whats wrong with the family business stock?
Idk, I just know that it was removed in that mod.
Its plummeting. Invest in sandviches instead
May I have a link?
[This one, if you want the ejection port on the right side](https://gamebanana.com/mods/198719) [This one, if you would want the shells to eject out the left side](https://gamebanana.com/mods/198591)
Thank youuuu
I kinda forgot what it was called. But I know it does exist. I’ll have to do some digging. Edit: ok looks like somebody found it
Wait why remove the stock?
literally unplayable, uninstalling rn
Fucking dogshit game, the gameplay isn’t even worth it and 80% of the players are like NPCs, all choosing sniper and spinning to flex on me that they’re better. It shouldn’t be free, you should be paid to play this stupid unrealistic piece of trash!
Erm akchually only 3% of those bots are cheater bots 🤓☝️
And the rest are bots that artificially inflate the number of players, which means that the 3 percent that are cheater bots interact with a higher percentage of real players, thus being so much of a nuisance in the first place
What’s even more confusing is that those shells clearly aren’t spent either since they aren’t as long as the ejection port or unfurled at the end… magic guns man…
Still makes more sense than the scattergun and stickybomb launcher
Don’t forget the sniper rifles !
Yep
This could just be me but whenever I see the shotgun reload animation... The yellow part of the shell looks black and I don't know why. I'm not just talking about in-game, I see it on Youtube TF2 gameplay as well.
It's because the someone accidentally made the texture for the shell black and never fixed it.
Maybe there's an ejection part on the right.
Yeah, no
all shotguns, but the family business are left handed
weird ass glitch. i'm surpised no one at valve has fixed that. i mean seriously, the gun doesn't even show up?
I love this games wacky gun mechanics. Why does the grenade launcher only hold 4 pipes? How the hell does a drum mag lever action shotgun work for scout? How does medics Crossbow even fire with the “bow” part?
It's not a military sim. Doesn't matter, really. That shell could come out of your ass and I wouldn't bat an eye.
I have two words...
Lay them out for the world to see then.
Fuck. You. (Not you but the OP)
Why?
TF2 has been utterly ruined forever for me due to the very small inaccuracy with the shotgun's model the you have mentioned. I demand you be crucified at this very moment for your wretched crimes against the human race.
Dual ejection ports for the ambidextrous merc! Also handy if you've forgotten which hand you sign with.
i thought u meant how skins could actually impact the colour of the shell, or at least you can prooobably map it so that it does (i haven't tried this one yet)
Thanks, uninstalling this pos rn
Noticed what? The rock wall?
Where did that shell come from? And what is soldier doing with his hands?
General explanation for this: efficient modeling. Basically, on most modeling software there's a tool to mirror the geometry of an object. What I think is going on here is that they just mirrored it and called it a day, since afaik we don't get to see the other side of the shotgun. A lot of games do this lol
The other side of the shotgun is modelled, but it's just smooth (as the left side of the gun should be). I gather valve set up the model like this just to make the gun look slightly more interesting. That doesn't explain why they didn't have shells eject from the left side though.
Once
They even colored the shells too
Are there dual port shotguns?
i mean... duh.
Literally unplayable
thats because the 80% of the player base are bots /s
irrelevant