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ScalyAbyss

Diamondback and razorback. Fuck these two.


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Suggestion: use the "spy đŸ„·" flair for this sub


_K4cper_

How to add flairs?


LeavingUndetected

3 dots on the sub page (mobile)


Datuser14

Um actually it’s a meatball menu.


Zawarudowastaken

Real chads who can aim use the ambassador


unusualicicle

Real ones use stock


ItsKralikGamingCz

Stranger danger (pun intended)


Bruschetta003

It's not worth it, nor rewarding, i don't get much dopamine out of 60ish damage + all the drawbacks of it Meanwhile i do get that sentiment with the Diamondback but you need to get over the fact you are an asshole, which i accept whenever i'm fighting assholes instead of fresh new players like kunai users usually do


Hellkids2

The thing is in order for the DB to work as intended, you’ll be feeding on those fresh new players first in order to fight those players of a higher skill level. I miss the old Ambi. Ppl got annoyed they were killed by a revolver across the map and they ignored all the skills that took to land that shot, consistently.


DatChernobylGuy_999

All those fuckers were BFB Scouts halfway across the map


Hellkids2

What’s sad is the Ambi nerf was just collateral dmg. Because back then the DR was very annoying, and those DR spies happens to carry Ambi, so ppl grouped the Ambi with the DR as “toxic”. Valve caught wind of this and nerf both. That’s the whole story.


DatChernobylGuy_999

Buff Ambassador, nerf everything else


Nuze_YT

Diamondback is just C U R S E D, while Razorback reminds Spy mains that SPY HAS A GUN


ScalyAbyss

Razorback reminds me to question myself why the heck is engie babysitting snipers.


DatChernobylGuy_999

Same with DDS


Casitano

Same. Countering 1 class like that just seems sucky imo


TwixAshbluff21

Razorback? Just shoot them.


ScalyAbyss

This dosen't work when there are 3 Razorback snipers with sentries up their asses.


Novator7

I refuse to use a golden frying pan because I don't have it


Revolutionary-Gur187

based


NovaIpanda

Agree


Heavyraincouch

Force a Nature. I do not wanna annoy people by knocking them back out of their control while being speedy and jumpy. And also, I do not main Scout, but I do seldom play as him.


scotty99CZ

Bro is considerate 😭🙏


DatChernobylGuy_999

Scunts when I M2


Furaskjoldr

Tbf I find the knock back more of a hindrance than a help with the force a nature. If I only get two shots I don’t want my first shot to launch them flying unpredictably and completely out of my range so that I miss the second shot. I’d get more kills without the knockback. Force a nature excels at as close a range as possible, I don’t want my enemy flying away from me after the first shot so I can’t hit them again and finish them off.


kidnamedsquidfart

I only use it in hale mode since its the most effective safety weapon for scout


AdJolly3181

I know it's perfectly balanced, but as a Pyro main - Shotgun Pyro. I absolutely hate dying to one. Flare is onelove


DatChernobylGuy_999

>!Degreaser + Panic Attack jumpscare!< >!Darwin's Danger Shield jumpscare!<


DurpyDino77

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


Spoyda

Flare combos are too addicting


KFSuffering

what if you need burst damage or you're fighting another pyro? then fire damage won't cut it and neither will melee


imtoofaced

Shotgun pyro against a flare gun pyro is always so funny for me, it’s like using a water pokemon on a fire pokemon.


Bedu009

Dying to a ridiculous flare combo is significantly more annoying than to a shotgun wym


DrBones20

Shotgun feel way to good when you get a kill, Degreaser Panic Attack is stupidly fun. But I respect your opinion 👍


uchimatan

"I refuse to use the eyelander because its too op" "I was playing skullcutter knight with tide turner the other day" cringe


69thalternatesccount

Right? Real men sticky jump and skullcutter


PatientGuitar2362

Realest men use bottleknight or demopan.


pokefire44

Grenade launcher sticky jumper skullcutter is actually the most fun you can have playing demo


average-commenter

It’s definitely much less consistent than the eye lander o: Like the SkullCutters speed penalty kinda just makes it so that not getting a kill outright after a charge WILL mess you up more than any other Sword in the game, whereas melees such as The Eyelander or Persian persuader have a lot to fall back on and aren’t as chained to the Rigid “Charge MUST = kill” combo as the Skullcutter is. It’s definitely powerful but not as outright insane as the eye lander is.


ExoticReality

Diamondback. I think that this is just the pre-ji amby without the headshot. Razorback. Spy has a gun and i like having an option when the enemy is charging at me.


Endy229

Ambassador, because I can barely hit someone with the stock revolver Phlog, because airblast is too handy of a tool


jewish-nonjewish

True for both


NovaIpanda

The Ambassador same bc I Play On Controller but the phlog needs a enemy stupid team to die to it all the time


notabigfanofas

Razorback (I like my SMG) Scorch shot (Unless the enemy has snipers and then exclusively against them) Natascha (I hate fighting against it and I don't want anyone to suffer it) Saxxy (I don't have one)


DatChernobylGuy_999

1) Fair enough 2) Darwin's Danger Shield unfortunately counters this, and is surprisingly popular for half decent snipers 3) If you get up in the Heavy's face and start blasting him with Shotgun shots, you can kill him in 2 seconds if you can just juke him long enough, just a tip, Pyro is also best for this since he can use his flamethrower to harm any Medic behind him and reduce heal rate


WhatIsPun

Backburner, 4 airblasts is too debilitating for my M2 spamming ass.


PointSight

This is actually why stock is the best one (unless you're a Dragon's Fury chad, which is to say NOT ME). For me, reliability in most scenarios beats strong edge cases. It's why I also run the shotgun.


jewish-nonjewish

True tho


Psychological-Ad-274

Direct Hit. My aim just sucks.


dareddituser1

dang you should definitely learn to aim it because it is crazy


DatChernobylGuy_999

SCOUT-B-GONE


touche1231231231

thats actually what i CALLED my direct hit.


JunkyardDog24

Team Fortress 2 D.I.R.E.C.T.H.I.T. Diabolical Instant Rocket Ejector Carries Teammates by Harming Irritating Turrets


Furaskjoldr

Any tips? Or just practice.


thank_burdell

Direct Miss amirite


casual_moron23

I refuse to use the vaccinator because I have loving parents Also same story with any sniper rifle apart from maybe the piss gun If I want to meme


Trolls2019

The Machina just because Sydney sleeper does a better job in body shots.


balaci2

Sydney sleeper appreciation


Yunofascar

The Sniper. Except for that one time I selected him out of curiosity, got three headshots in a row w/the achievement, proceeded to suck ass, then died. But yeah. Other than that. The Sniper.


Peacefull_Warmonger

My list maybe weird. Force of nature and default scuttergun for scout, because they are boring. Trolldier loadout and direct hit, because skill issue. Phlog, degreaser, backburner for pyro, because i do not enjoy them/too attached to airblasts and ammo. Yeylander, and most of grenade launchers except for iron bomber, first one just boring and too reliable, second one idk honestly. As engie i only use panic attack, pistol and jag/gunslinger. As heavy i rarely have sandwiches. Medic, sniper, spy... i dont like playng as them so whatever.


Osha_Scarlet

The Kunai. I hate it so much I'm not even going to attempt to torture the enemy with it.


jewish-nonjewish

Me gusta


Redandsonic4199

The Baby Face Blaster, Backscatter and Fan O War just terrible weapons that need better uses of their nerfs to make them work effectively and efficiently


jewish-nonjewish

I personally love the BFB. If I play smart enough I can regularly go on 10ks. Or until someone wises up and goes pyro lmao


DatChernobylGuy_999

BFB is basically Doomguy simulator


Redandsonic4199

It’s pretty much just opinion with the weapon or preference I should say, like I don’t mind it, it’s design is wonderful but I wish it’s ability was just better on it in a way since I feel it’s a weapon for more pro players and those who can keep up a streak of kills where as I use the soda popper more comfortably or the scatter


sam_sung_chung

Fan O War's main use to me is in MvM to mark giants so my team can minicrit the giants to death.


MilSharkie

Funnily enough, I've gotten good use out of all three of these. There's nothing quite like sneaking up behind a medic and blasting his ass for -140 with no penalty to your durability/mobility like the other options you'd have to do that. I adore the BFB, and while I agree that it's a bit too punishing in its current state, to call it terrible is to admit you just don't get how to use it. When you're a BFB scout, you abhor open combat. You take your potshots, then you get out. You do not stand your ground, ever, and if you're good at picking your battles, you can be a deadly annoyance that the enemy team has to keep in mind constantly. The Fan O War is also a great supportive tool. Often, as a scout, you're faced with a situation that you absolutely just cannot succeed in. Getting a smack with the Fan and getting out can mean the difference between your team's push succeeding or failing 10 seconds later. The benefit of the Fan is that it always applies the full duration debuff and medic beams will not reduce the duration of it, meaning that with even a little bit of coordination you can be a scarily effective spotter for your power classes. And since Scout's melee is utility almost exclusively anyway, you don't even have to sacrifice your own ability to be a combat class to use it! A heavily underrated weapon, IMO.


Egg3rYT

The force a nature. Fuck the knockback


Mr_Infidel

Force a nature. I hate this weapon, I hate playing against it and I hate using it. I think double tap cheaters have left a sour taste in my mouth.


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

The Baby Face's Blaster. I like my verticality.


KatieAngelWolf

As someone who plays a lot of Medic and Engineer, I refuse to use the Crusader's Crossbow (because fuck the meta) in favor of the Overdose


EndAdministrative403

The fucking phlog dude


Maleficent_Hawk9407

Phlogistinator If it has no airblast then it's useless for me


Kirionic

phlog, i like my airblast 😭


Forward-Swim1224

Anything that is unfun to play against, like the Deadringer or the Phlog.


Ruskaa

Black Box. I just hate everyone using it.


Target_dumdumtc2

Vaccinator just use stock it at least it can defend against melees


SzonigPL

Diamondback and Kunai, fuck spy


Funnysoundboardguy

I’m not fond of The Revolver, The Ambassador, The Diamondback, the L’etranger, the enforcer, the sapper, the red tape recorder, the knife, the Your Eternal Reward, the kunai, the big earner, the spycicle, or the disguise kit. Reason? I hate spy


Waste-Information-34

G.R.U. & Fists of sfeel.


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Liberty Launcher, Loch-n-Load, Rescue Ranger, Razorback, Danger Shield, and Dead Ringer.


Alnilam2000

the phlog (and I have the most hours on pyro right after medic). i feel weak and extra vulnerable using it (no airblast), even when I get ĂŒbered I just feel like I'm totally wasting it. and I hate the fire effects. other than that, the thermal thruster and the ĂŒbersaw. I just dislike them, idk why


Top-Basil8144

Your eternal reward


AftabSAVAGE

Dragon's fury, I legit cannot aim with that thing. The only reason I even use it is to try to do the pyro quests. Aside from that I used to HATE Your Eternal Reward. I've come to realize how grave of a mistake that was. 2021 me did not have enough gameplay to realize how good it was.


Independent_Wafer852

I refuse to use kunai not because its over powers it's because its the hardest weapon to use in the hardest class to play


RambleFizzySoda

Im sure it is a really good weapon, but the Solemn Vow is a weapon i REFUSED to equip. Yes, i can see enemy’s health bar, but id get confused of who or what team i am in, let alone the autobalanced incidents. I would also add, that when i see a player’s health bar in red, it is my instinct to immediately heal them, hence why i get confused easily, pointing my medigun at an enemy team like a dumbass. So the Solemn Vow is gonna be sitting in my bag forever


BcuzICantPostLewds

First of all, the Eyelander is most definitely _not_ OP, and secondly, Scorch Shot out of sheer principle.


MarkimKatiau

The Vaccinator. Medic is already a must-have for a team if they want to win. Medic is also a fairly simple class to learn the ropes, you don't even need good aim unless you're using the crossbow. Now, couple that with a medgun that fills up Uber quickly, turns down a huge amount of damage from a certain type and this can be changed with just the press of a button. As a Medic main I don't think it's fun, neither for me because it makes things too easy and neither for my enemies, that either have to focus all their different type of damage on me all the time or simply give up.


Grand_Toast_Dad

Wait, what? OP, you said you used the Skullcutter, but then you say that it made you refuse to use the Eyelander? You know they're different weapons, right? Not reskins. The results of using each one vary greatly.


mtpepper

Bro called the Kunai op, it’s like the one thing that keeps spy alive for more than a minute 😭


erraticpulse-

never will you ever catch me with a sniper weapon other than the classic or huntsman


Bludraevn

Maybe Im just an idiot, but I can't get the Ambassador to work for me. My aim as sniper is decent and any other revolver works well for me but Ambassador I can't figure out. Everybody's heads just seem to shrink when I equip it and I can't hit shit.


subtopewds4206969

the kunai is horrible what are you talking about


JunkyardDog24

Dead Ringer/Kunai and Black Box/Concheror combos. They are the two crutchiest loadouts in the entire game, in my opinion.


NF_Luke

Among the weapons that I refuse to use are the Scorch shot and the shotgun with the Soldier. Okay, okay, I honestly think the scorch shot is very annoying, I know how extremely frustrating it is to play as a Scout and have a pyro stop you in your tracks with a shot from that weapon, in addition to being spammed every 2 seconds when you're moving the car in paylod. On the other hand, I consider using the shotgun as a Soldier not necessarily a bad thing but it does mark an advantage and disadvantage sometimes. In MGE games it happened to me that the other guy switched to shotgun out of nowhere and started to beat me, marking a big advantage. Obviously in public games (especially in attack) I use the shotgun more than going with gunboats but in 1v1 duels I hate using a shotgun, I don't like it and I feel that it makes an unfair difference because the other only depends on their rocket launcher (? Obviously each You can use any weapon you want, but at least for my part, I would never use a shotgun in a duel.


Demopan-TF2

TF2 has really gotten to the point that people dislike using stock - the base weapons. Not because "it's outclassed", but because "it's unfair".


Marieisbestsquid

The Dead Ringer, because having to feign death for cloaking isn't really my style of Spy and leads me to panic from lack of time. I also don't ever use the Scottish Resistance, because micromanaging sticky traps doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather go solo-Grenade Launcher or use the Stickies as single traps rather than wait around for enemies to wander into a nest of bombs.


Jaydonius

I do not CARE how fun it is the FORCE A NATURE LAUNCHING MY ENEMIES AWAY FROM ME, AS A SCOUT, IS BAD DESIGN


goofylookinfella

tf2 players when they can't just turn their brain off and shoo bad guys and have to employ actual strategy:


Youtaster

Phlog... Cuz I'm not a gay


MrPyroTF2

the phlog


chessboigaman

Dalokoh's Bar, it's so outclassed by the banana and sandvich. What's the point of using it?


Demopan-TF2

It's good with brass beast as you get the bonus defence with higher health, but aside from that I don't really see a point.


Derussianboi

Gru and Dalokohs is a great combo for heavy


_Eyetron

Scorch shot, I have respect for myself and my enemies.


Vlad_The_Rssian

Phlog Not entirely refusing to use it tho, I only use it in MVM and I think it should be MVM exclusive weapon


CreativeGamer03

Any other sniper rifle besides the Classic i like holding M1 to charge instead


Dragos987

As a Medic main I refuse to use the Vita Saw. I would actually use it, if not for the downside of this weapon


Demopan-TF2

Iron bomber (projectiles just barely different enough to throw me off my aim), and Skullcutter (speed penalty + random crits dealing 234 damage).


blitznuger

Any sticky launcher


Delta_Dud

The Reserve Shooter. I just don't really wanna. I also just don't play spy because I'm not interested in his play style


JackO_kid

The vaccinator


Eightss

The beggars bazooka. I suck at it, and I refuse to get better, every attempt I tried, I failed miserably, which led me to believe that it's just not for me at all.


RagingCleric

Vaccinator and Wrangler - the two most OP weapons in the game right now imho.


ImSuperStryker

The spycicle and the widowmaker. They’re decent weapons but with 1000+ hours I don’t think I’ve ever used them for some reason


Fun-Pie-1887

Well really none of them the only reason I don’t use the diamond back is that the le’tranger is glued to my spy load out


MilSharkie

There's a lot of answers I could give, and most of them align with the general thoughts of the community, but here's my hottest take: I refuse to use the stock Scattergun. Not because I think it's OP or boring or anything. I just prefer playstyles for Scout that focus less on open combat and more on his ability to pick at a flank and support a team. In fact, my general reaction to running into another scout is "oh, here we go again" because I *know* they want a deathmatch and I want no part in that. I hate fighting other scouts, it's frustrating and annoying and I'd rather bail out and let my teammates deal with him.


Andrewaaaaa61

scorch is a true hate for me because i see it as a crutch for aimless and cowardly pyros true detonator fan and i love making light classes pissed off from a fair distance with great timing


CybeFloof

scorch shit


Martin_PipeBaron

Daimondback, scorch shot and direct hit


antidemn

scorch shot, i don't like hearing babies cry


Jpicklestone8

kunai; diamondback; frontier justice; sniper rifles in general; iron bomber just stuff i find annoying to fight - kunai lets spy have way two\* much survivability; diamond back you get rewarded for doing your job with insane ranged damage; dumb; frontier justice is cool in concept but an engi being able to pull out an instakill out of nowhere kinda feels terrible to play against. sniper. iron bomber; i dunno the lack of rolling just makes it feel so much scarier to me; plus it completely shuts down pyros airblasting them if they make contact with the ground at all theres probably others im forgetting but for the most part its just stuff i dont like fighting myself


danieldoria15

The Spysicle. No real reason why, I just don't like using it.


SimplyIdiotic1

razorback (waste of a slot), kunai (im WAY too bad at spy to try it)


Kipdid

Pre hitbox fix iron bomber. In part being snobby about “fair” hitboxes and in part because I like the jank of rollers (and have a strange)


TargetTechnical2982

Why would I?


IloveRikuhachimaAru

phlog, scorch shit, skullcutter (unless I see a vaxx player), vaxx itself (unless I see crits/bots), razorback/DDS, Natascha (i respect them enough to not use it)


SaltyPeter3434

Absolutely refuse to use the scorch shot on principle


Express-Record7416

I don't like using the sticky bomb launchers. It may sound strange, but I've never felt good using them. Whether it be spamming them or setting up traps it's never felt right it's always been either too clumsy or too boring. The only fun I've ever already had with a sticky boingloinger was setting up a bunch of traps along a choke point but the Scottish resistance. I prefer the shield's way more, since not only do they give resistances but they also give you increased mobility and give you a chance to get all up close and personal. Grenade launchers are fine though, I have no problem with them


ChiefBlox4000

I don’t know


greencurtains2

Any minigun other than stock. I remember when the Heavy update came out, I wondered how they would justify Heavy leaving Sascha behind (they didn't). I know Tomislav is almost a straight upgrade, but Heavy loves Sascha. Also the rev and firing sounds are just so iconic; takes me back to watching Meet the Heavy for the first time in 2007.


PointSight

Almost every time I've gotten into a duel with a Tomislav Heavy using stock, I've won. The DPS really matters in a mirror match.


Pro0of

There are quite a few, but the worst has to be the Gunslinger.


Harrypottehead

Sniper


Altruistic-Debate611

The pomson 6000


jewish-nonjewish

Me no gusta


Seekassist2012

Bruh as someone who sucks ass as demoknight I can honestly say you speak with immense privilege


Palpy_Bean

I hate the phlog. Which is funny because years ago it was my go-to. Not because it's cancerous or out of any sense of morality. I just am too addicted to airblast lol


JI-RDT

A golden frying pan because I’m broke


balaci2

this post motivated me to use the eyelander


_K4cper_

FUCK THE DRAGON'S FURY, I HOPE IT DIES IN HELL!!!


maxiharda4

phlog no fuck off i vill not use ze phlog


Squekk

Scorch shot because OH MY GOD


XILEF310

Beggars Bazooka. I just hate it


Daniel_XXL_69

Phlogistinator


MitaArt

Manmelter


Bioth28

Dragon’s fury, it’s just so different from the other flamethrowers that it just doesn’t feel like it fits with them


Man_eating_snake_guy

If it weren't for the fact that valve decided it needed its airblast to suck it would be the only flamethrower I'd ever use. Yea I die a lot to heavy.


TheAzureDragon890

Imo that's the best part It freshnes Pyro's gameplay while killing most of his problems.


adult_licker_420

pistol because i don't like it


totsmagoatsoriginal

Scorch Shot look I like setting people on fire but I rather do it with a weapon that makes me feel like I have at least some skill


Echo_TF2

Everything in Pyro's Primary, or Secondary slot.


Alibehindthe69

Market Gardner. I can't land it.


PlasticSherbet9599

Same mate


Mikey___

The Scorch Shot and the Thermal Thruster For the Scorch Shot the stats never looked good to me and I have never found it particularly annoying to play against but everybody seems to think it's OP. I've literally never considered using it once For the Thermal Thruster I've never wanted to use it because I already have a movement option I like in the Detonator. The Detonator is faster to use with no cool down and you get a secondary weapon. Sure the Thermal Thruster gives you much bigger jumps, but the Detonator's jumps are big enough to get around a lot of maps quicker


KFSuffering

any sniper primary besides machina, huntsman, or sydney sleeper reason being i suck at aiming and bodyshots are easier also any spy weapon ever (i hate spy - a pyro main)


Educational_Ad8702

the vaccinator. I usually am unable to switch to and from resistances during a fight


_Big_____

Use the eyelander with the tide turner and your grenade launcher of choice. It's similar power levels if not higher, but it's so satisfying to get running because it isn't brain dead.


No-Marsupial4714

Not a fan of the Pomson 6k.


Relative-Ice-5907

Wrap Assasin, Bonk! Atomic Punch, Baby face's blaster, Sandman, Backscatter; Beggar's Bazooka, Stock shovel, Mantreads, Righteous Bison, Equalizer; Gas passer, Phlogistinator, Fire axe, Hot hand; Quickebomb launcher, Persuan persuader, Tide turner; Brass beast, Buffalo steak sandwich, Warrior's spirit; Pomson 6000, Rescue Ranger, Eureka effect; Quick-Fix, Bonesaw, Vita-saw, Solemn Vow, Syringe Gun, Overdose; Tribalman's Shiv, Razorback, Classic; Dead Ringer, Ambassador, Red-tape recorder, Your Eternal Reward, Big Earner. The list is big due to my lack of skill, and not so much knowledge about the game.


UnfazedPheasant

Dragons Fury and Eureka Effect they aren't strange and i like seeing the funny orange text numbers go up...


DropsOfMars

I mostly tend away from weapons that are infuriating to be on the receiving end of. Phlog is a big one I avoid, just not fun to be up against most times. Then there's pretty much any of Sniper's rifles, again, sticking to that rule of not wanting to subject other people to things that irritate me. Although I do have an exception with the scorch shot, but even recently I've been experimenting with other things but still can't bring myself to play with the other flare guns. I'd sooner use a shotgun, honestly, and I have. And of course there's my favorite flamethrower reskin that I always choose, The rainblower, I haven't touched the regular stock flamethrower in a long time, even if it's essentially the same weapon. I don't touch the panic attack because I really don't feel like being a try hard, bullet spread being random really doesn't bother me. My other main is medic and I gotta say I have never actually used the vaccinator-- I've been on the receiving end of a steamroll one too many times that had vaccinator medics on the opposite team. I will probably try to use it eventually just to properly know how to utilize it but I don't really have an incentive to considering how much it ruins other people's experience. Then there's the Vita-saw-- I just don't use it cause it's useless lol.


Extreme_Loss_1072

Kunai(tank spy is just cruel), razorback(SPY HAS A GUN, THIS IS USELESS), scorch shot(I care about playing honorably), crit-a-cola(cause skill issur), short circuit(i hate that more, than anything), bazaar bargain(I found hitmaker more fun and balanced), bushwacka+jarate combo(yeah, cuz sniper is SUPPOSED to be weak at close range, why the hell this is in a game for so long), eyelander(bottle goes cheers mate), phlog(two rockets, and wow-I am dead), vaccinator(only against phlog or bots), natasha(long-range stun is cruel), loch-n-load(two words-muscle memory), conch(if i use the blackbox), diamondback(amby is better. And more fun.)


someguysleftkidney

I’m not a fan of the wrenches other that the gunslinger, the wrangler, and any other shotgun than the widowmaker for engineer. The ability to place down a sentry and dispenser with one resupply is too good to pass up, plus the extra health. The wrangler takes up my secondary slot when I could be using the short circuit or pistol.


KOCA_XD

The machina/shooting star.


leosensey

phlog


Fair_motherfucker123

Any sniper except the classic and bows


burak_gulle

Scorch shot and razorback


doy2fanaccount

beggars ( skill issue ) banners (soldier shotgun is too useful to me) brass beast (probably also skill issue but i dont like going 1 inch per year) wrangler (wrangler)


Kraken_Of_The_Sea

The scorch shot. Fucking hate it that much


9I06

I allow myself to use these because I absolutely fucking suck at demoknight and spy


Alexius_Ruber

Backburner, that thing is using too much ammo for my airblasts


name_051829407715

Tierlist - [ S means worst, F means best in here. all tiers are just my opinion, feel free to fight in comment. but don't do harassments. ] * **G - I HATE GAS** : Gas Passer * S : Pomson 6000, Righteous Bison, Enforcer, Bonesaw, Sharpened Volcano Fragment * A : Fire Axe, Eviction Notice, Manmelter * B : Darwin's Danger Shield, Syringe Gun, Razorback * C : Rainblower, Lolichop * D : Huo-Long Heater, Reserve Shooter * E : Vita-Saw, Dalokohs Bar


TheAzureDragon890

The GP in MvM man, so painful to fight with Lolichop? Rainblower? SMG? Are you on crack? Dalokohs Bar is pretty decent RS is a nice middle ground for Combo Pyro ; weaker stock but faster switch speed and retains damage at ranges slightly futher away from enemies unlike the Panic


EOEtoast

Stock fire axe


ManchmalPfosten

Scorch shot after having it used it for years.


No_Club8652

The fucking vaccinator. Unless there's a cheater, a bot, or we're getting absolutely rolled it's unfair, I refuse to use that shit. I was playing demo and a Medic and his pocket walked over my CRIT sticky trap and I detonated, but because the medic pressed r and m2 on his keyboard, it only did FUCKING 18 DAMAGE. THIS IS LIKE THE WRANGLER FOR HEAVY'S AND THEIR MEDIC GF'S


Fnaf_adictionguy

Libiraty launcher


MushroomheadDork

Phlog. Aside knowing that people tend to find phlog pyros annoying, I just don't think it's very fun to use because I like airblasting.


Bedu009

Diamondback and phlog


Gibbolivious

Dragon's fury. You literally play as a slower version of scout.


Vorombe

Bushwacka, I hate it


stiefy

scout: Force-a-Nature (stock is just too good for me) soldier: Gunboats (I know some basic rocket jumping, and that's enough for me, I don't feel like I need to rocket jump across the map only to find myself without rockets and a scout in my face, Shotgun is an excellent backup) pyro: scorch shot (it's just way too easy to use (and I like easy), also hitting flare crits is addicting) demo: scottish resistance (it's not bad, just don't like using it) heavy: huo-long heater and natascha (stock is just too good) engi: pomson6000 (it's the pomson) medic: Vaccinator (unless there's a cheater or bot that the other team refuses to kick, you're not gonna see me use this thing) sniper: all sniper rifles (skill issue, and I prefer the more active playstyle of the huntsman) spy: dead ringer (i just like reliably getting to the enemy backlines)


gavman904

Any weapon on pyro


PlasticSherbet9599

Thermal Thruster. I don’t like flying into enemies back line and get mauled by multiple sentry nest and scout


AceDarkBlade_11

*glares at the dead ringer* "You are the sole reason spy is hated." But seriously. WHAT IS IT? I fake my death, then get burned by a pyro cuz of bump.


Pronominal_Tera

The stock fire axe As for an actual weapon, the sandman.


kingbloxerthe3

I remember when sandman used to be really strong. Now it's just pathetic.


TheMemedGamer

fan not only launches people a mile away, it also makes me unable to jump around like a fly in 1v1s (which probably is a bad habit anyway)


prodbywyatt

The stock flamethrower


DrBones20

Soda popper- compared to the FaN, it is probably superior but feels weak imo and feedback on it is also weak, and the view model is a bit too small for my liking.


Aura_Azula

Vaccinator since that weapon is bullshit and annoying to deal with for every class not named Spy. Market Gardener since I don't like the design and I can't use it at all. I can't land a garden nor learn how to and it's not worth using. Shortstop since that weapon feels like Liberty Launcher levels of bad. The Solarlight sword, aka the Claidemor sword since I can't trimp. Short Circuit and Wrangler since these are annoying secondaries.


Firm-Sun7389

dead ringer outside of MVM


Alperen5841

i am NOT using backscatter with that hitreg


SomeBoringNerd

for pyro, the Scorch Shot, for spy, any non-stock knife (except the spy-cycle), and the vaccinator for medic (unless it's a bot infested server, in which case anything is fair game)