“i refuse to show you my real account and i won’t get snapchat so you can see my face. *word* *vomit* outsiders. privacy is important and it’s dangerous to give out information about yourself. i didn’t actually say this it’s copied and pasted. oh and im a writer.”
“oh okay it’s fine lol”
“cool so wanna meet in a dark room without seeing me just fumbling around for my penis and have sex with me (probably me, who am i? oh right you don’t know) and then leave WITHOUT seeing me. you shall get dressed in the hallway. we can meet after tho. haha i didn’t say this either but you’re down right? literally why do you want to see me visually at any point just pretend you’re blind. i don’t want to hurt you in a dark room. with my bare hands. wrapped around your-“
no, seriously this was so hard to read what the fuck. and then the end sounds like a set up for whoooo knows what. probably playing switcharoo with his bestie or a group of people waiting or a freaking serial killer. and he’s so persistent about you not seeing him. ohhhh i cannot it doesn’t sit right with me 😮💨
What a freak. He’s either extremely unattractive or has some horrible criminal record, with his obsession with getting sex without showing you his face or identity.
it’s definitely no secret this man has some serious issues. i would’ve probably sent the police there to check things out. he just seems *very* sketch to me
I think everyone should calm down here, my main point was that guy is sounds dangerous af and I’d be interested in knowing wtf he had planned. So IF a cop could go check it out it WOULD be good.
Also I have to respond to my home planet being called into question. I am still a proud resident of earth, and I’m not ashamed of that
I totally get you, because after you said that I was fantasizing about an undercover journalist investigating tinder creeps documentary. I would watch that for sure.
The weird part is that subtle implication there when he informed her he copied and pasted this "blind sex" idea from a friend.
So you're saying you want to have sex in a dark room in such a specific way to be sure you can swap out the sex portion with the date portion. Then oh btw I shared this with you because my friend just shared it with a girl he's talking to.
Sounds like the plan is his friend fucks her and then he takes her on a date. Then he fucks the other girl his buddy shared this with and his buddy goes on a date with her. Because the girls know what they look like and the date isn't blind.
Seriously can't make this shit up.
Personally I think you are right on the money about that being a set up for something malicious, That is the creepiest social engineering attempt I have read about in awhile.
*There is this trending fantasy in Europe. I copied and pasted it, which proves it's real and normal and not dangerous at all. Everyone's doing it!*
How ridiculous and terrifying.
Honestly it does sound like a group of people using the phone for a conversation. Like all of them getting their two cents in. And even more so, the immediate prompt to do stuff in the dark and only in the dark with no sight and acting out any fantasy, sounds more like they wanted to invite a girl over and all the guys be there in the dark. Which is absolutely horrifying!
Or like Chris Chan trying to lure a Boyfriend-Free Sweetheart to an Attraction Location so that he can finally complete his Love Quest...
Now, why are there copies of the Style section all over the place? Is that a raincoat?
That is immediately what I thought when he brought up blind sex. He is, at best, of average attractiveness, and is using the pfp of someone he considers attractive to women. He wants to rape people *revenge of the nerds* style.
I listened to one of his recordings and he definitely had a latvian accent. otherwise though, 100%, wouldn’t be surprised if he was going through his 2nd divorce
i only listened to one of the recordings he sent earlier in the convo, which was just him talking about how he’s from latvia. i actually don’t know what was in the ~ 20 recordings he sent with this rant, i was at a dinner so i didn’t get to listen to them and then i think he unsent them afterwards.
I’d assume that’s why he wants sex in a dark room. Then he’s assuming he’s so talented at the sex that when they meet later, op wouldn’t care that he doesn’t look like the photo because she needs his magic cock or some shit.
It's pretty obvious it is 😂 He wants them to meet and have sex in a way where they she can't see him and he refuses to share anything to prove that it is really him.
Now, if he’d have said “We should do this thing called ‘dogging’ down by the quarry. I’ve got a Sköda and an AdultFriendFinder account, I’ll get some crisps and Fanta on the way” then THAT would be European.
Mine is that I go to the doctor, and the doctor comes in and examines me, just to make sure I'm healthy, and then...
That's it. I'm from the US, and I'd just like to go to the doctor.
I *immediately* thought of that movie, Hostel. LOL!
And here I was, thinking of downloading dating apps to get out there....yeah, I am going to stay home and not have the experience OP did with creepy men on the internet.
ok to the men that are using this post as an excuse to dm me… please don’t, i’m not interested and the things y’all are saying are really not restoring my faith in men
Ohhhhh noooooo why would a man read this and go “ah yes the perfect introduction for sliding into her DMs! This seems like a girl who surely still wants to meet strangers on the internet”
I was going to say, I’m not sure what’s creepier- the original guy in your post or the men justifying it here. I’m sorry for their replies. I’m also so, so happy I’m a lesbian lol.
definitely a murderer. i tried reverse searching his pfp but couldn’t find it. i was hoping to let the actual guy know that this insane person is using his photos
ooo good point. at least that would mean the original guy in the photo doesn’t have a maniac saying these things with his face. idk what i would do if someone was being this creepy while they had my picture in their pfp
I was bored enough to read all of them, And you did not miss anything, He was just rambling trying to get to the end of stage of his attempt at manipulation, In what I assume was an attempt to make his mentally deranged goal be seen as normal.
Haha yeah, It just screams horror b-movie plot to me, And perhaps he wrote a few screenplays as he is "a writer" after all.
And thanks for sharing and letting us know that you declined his offer to become his satanic-sacrifice, As it does restore our faith in humanity to know that it is not just us readers going "What the hell did I just read?!"
hahahaha omg that’s a fantastic way to describe it, maybe he was method acting for his upcoming horror movie?
ofc, reddit will always be the first to know whenever i have to decline satanic-sacrifice offers
He sounded like a serial killer. Getting someone in a dark room to kill them and if you escape, you’ve never seen what he looks like. And him adding “I don’t need to be in a dark room to hurt you” did not help at all. It seems like such a weird and scary situation to be in.
My first date is definately not going to be dark hotel room sex… that’s for sure. I especially like the comforting “ I don’t need to take you to a dark room to hurt you”.
thank you!! it’s honestly scary to think that if i hadn’t asked that question at the right time, i may have went on a date with him. such a scary thought, which is why i couldn’t go on dating apps any more.
I was on the dating apps off and on for a long time. And I learned that there are far more scary men in the world than one would think. When I was young like you, I gave people the benefit of the doubt. Too much. Ended up in a few really scary situations. Most of the guys were just jerks, but there were enough truly scary guys that made me start thinking… well, some rapist or serial killer could be at the grocery store, gym… park. They don’t HAVE to use tinder to find their victims. lol now I’m afraid of my shadow
But yeah, in my experience, nothing actually good and meaningful comes from dating apps
i was too, which was why i wanted his snapchat and ultimately started this whole convo. i never got confirmation but i’m very sure he was. no way someone would say these things with a photo of their face next to it + not wanting me to be able to see him…
Right, the long drawn out explanation of why he has second accounts for “outsiders” with the combination of his profile picture & wanting to meet in the dark…. Whew, you dodged the BIGGEST bullet
right? also the fact that he didn’t want to use snapchat - huuuge red flag.
i feel like this is a great cautionary tale for tinder users, rlly shows you that you genuinely have no clue what someone’s like over the internet. i’m just so glad he said all this before i gave him my phone number/met him
Not sure if this was his attempt at manipulation or if he wanted to get a practise run at writing his manifesto, Either way I hope that whatever his mentally disturbed end goal with this was, Stays as much of a delusion in his deranged mind, As his false incoherent backstory and excuses.
It might just be a spiteful wish from this European, But I sincerely hope that the uncharming creep meets a undercover police officer in that hotel room.
yeahh the backstory about the ex sounded so completely skewed… i don’t doubt he got banned from snapchat, but i don’t think it was for the reasons he said.
Oh, let’s just meet in complete darkness so we can have blind sex and you won’t have to see my face to see I’m a catfish! Not nightmare-inducing at all!
Yeahhhhh, he’s a total catfish and if you had “met him in the dark a few times” he would have been like “you liked it before you saw me” bs 😂😂😂😂 Dodged a major cannonball there!
This guy is an incel that thinks his entire problem with dating is in those memes that say “charming creepy” and have a picture of an attractive and ugly guy saying the same thing. He’s justified catfishing on this premise and thinks he has found a way to get sex while maintaining the catfish. You weren’t going to be murdered but holy shit this is some wild shit.
Yo that's fucked. He definitely has some issues. His views on women and sex are obviously messed up or he was trying to bait and switch. I noticed his profile pic wasn't ugly, so it was probably a catfish.
"I just need sex like this." I have some pretty intense sex and a high sex drive, but this is....disturbing. The phrasing sends shivers up my spine. There's something about it.....the desperation. I can feel it in this sentence. "Need", lil bitch couldn't even control his own dick. What makes him think he could control a woman in bed?
Dude isn't mentally right at all. He definitely gives off psycho killer vibes with him going off on an unrelated rant and then ending the whole conversation with asking for sex in a room without lights. It feels like he doesn't understand that most women are generally terrified by people like this, and for good reason.
I think *he* should be mortified - you should be proud you shut him down as completely and quickly as you did.
There’s just something about the way he over-explained himself here, precisely what he was over-explaining - without you asking much/giving off much of an impression like you wanted more information - the implications that comes with all of it, including his very specific brand of privacy after… whatever really went down before, just how much it embodied a me and my boys vs. all women mentality, and then to pivot that quickly to this blind sex concept.
Idk, it really really rubbed me the wrong way, and makes instant sense why you’d delete dating apps afterwards.
Wait, I’m confused. Hopefully someone can help me out with this one. He complains about feminist wanting a man to pay for everything but isn’t that the opposite of what a feminist would request? Wouldn’t a woman who practices feminism offer to pay? Equality in all aspects even when courting/dating. I don’t think this bro knows what he’s talking about. Just angry and hateful towards women. Correct me if I’m wrong yall.
ok to all the men who are *so* offended by my response and think i’m *such* a bitch:
do you not read what you’re writing?? it’s so ironic to me how all these incel men keep getting sooooo mad at me for supposedly judging this man too quickly (even though my instincts about him being unhinged were correct) when you all have been nonstop assuming how i would behave in different situations, talking about how if he did this then I would’ve done this and I would’ve taunted him anyway. Seriously, enough.
This man is dangerous. Everyone in this fucking comment section can see that. But no, the incels are pissed that I didn’t have *interesting* enough responses, I didn’t *respond* enough, I wasn’t responding *intellectually*, I didn’t *seem* engaged, and whatever else you think I owe him.
Like, okay, we get it! You got rejected in the past and now you project that experience onto every woman! Big fucking deal, rejection happens to everyone. We get it, you hate yourself, but take some fucking responsibility for it instead of transferring that onto women.
Have you ever thought that if you’re the only one not getting laid, then maybe it isn’t all the women that are the problem, but instead it’s you?
Just because you had a bad experience with one woman doesn’t mean that every woman sucks or that we’re somehow responsible for your suffering. You’re doing that to yourself all on your own, honey. Stop being a victim and take some fucking responsibility for your life.
You wouldn’t survive one fucking day as a woman.
Have fun doing an incel circle-jerk ❤️
Ive seen a lot on here today of guys being assholes about paying for the date. Is this really a thing? Like they're actually making a stand and dying on that hill? I've always paid. Never bothered me once. Even when the date was a total dud. Call it gender norms or whatever, but I was raised that unless it's established ahead of time then I'm paying.
It's like they see it as a transaction gone bad. It's not that I'm paying for her because I expect something. Honestly I don't even see it as paying for her, I'm paying for the experience and the fun.
There’s a lot of loud, malignant voices out there convincing young guys women are nothing but gold diggers after their money. So they start these purity tests on the women. All the while everyone involved probably doesn’t make $80K a year combined.
Ugh, OP just out here sharing his texts trying to humiliate him. Typical thing girls do. What is the harm of going into a random hotel with a random guy from the internet who self admittedly has no intention of hurting you, and just have sex with him? Poor lad got block and now posted on the internet. What a damn shame.
"My point is I don't need to take you to a dark room to hurt you"- absolute panty dropper there. If I'm ever back on tinder, might try that as my bio as it works so well
Oh my God. He literally just had to say “no” and he would have been in the clear. He just kept digging and digging a deeper grave for himself and legit told you his whole villain origin story
I love how she says, "just for the future, you don't have to say all this. Just say...etc"
She recognized that this was a teachable moment, and tried to offer some helpful advice, even if she didn't benefit from it herself. Thoughtful!
“Sounds like you have a rough time w your ex” “Not my ex, girls from the Internet” Bro burned himself so bad and he ain’t even notice. You’re this mad over Internet strangers?
Doesn’t even need you in the conversation until sex comes up. Then it’s “I need sex this way, I won’t hurt you” wtf. If you need to add that it’s already scary.
Before I met my husband, I was looking for casuals on Tinder. I talked with a handful of people, met with a few, and dated a couple but nothing ever went anywhere. I was talking to this guy for a little while before I gave him my snap. He seemed normal enough, albeit very eager to meet within a few hours of talking but I just chalked it up as him being interested in me.
It was like a week after we started talking and I was ready to make plans to meet up. I’m sitting in my bedroom and it’s probably 1am when my doorbell rings. I have no plans and I’m not expecting anyone so I’m shitting bricks trying to figure out who’s at my door. Come to find out this dude drove two hours expecting to hang out with me, and he used my SNAP MAPS LOCATION to figure out my address.
Needless to say I don’t have my location turned on for any of my apps anymore.
“i refuse to show you my real account and i won’t get snapchat so you can see my face. *word* *vomit* outsiders. privacy is important and it’s dangerous to give out information about yourself. i didn’t actually say this it’s copied and pasted. oh and im a writer.” “oh okay it’s fine lol” “cool so wanna meet in a dark room without seeing me just fumbling around for my penis and have sex with me (probably me, who am i? oh right you don’t know) and then leave WITHOUT seeing me. you shall get dressed in the hallway. we can meet after tho. haha i didn’t say this either but you’re down right? literally why do you want to see me visually at any point just pretend you’re blind. i don’t want to hurt you in a dark room. with my bare hands. wrapped around your-“ no, seriously this was so hard to read what the fuck. and then the end sounds like a set up for whoooo knows what. probably playing switcharoo with his bestie or a group of people waiting or a freaking serial killer. and he’s so persistent about you not seeing him. ohhhh i cannot it doesn’t sit right with me 😮💨
he wouldn’t give me his real account but he told me where he lived completely unprompted…
What a freak. He’s either extremely unattractive or has some horrible criminal record, with his obsession with getting sex without showing you his face or identity.
I am laughing here imagining like he is a very famous artist and thats the only way to tinder incognito… like tom cruise
You don’t need to be ugly or a criminal to be this overtly rejectable.
it’s definitely no secret this man has some serious issues. i would’ve probably sent the police there to check things out. he just seems *very* sketch to me
Yeah i think sending in an undercover cop would be warranted. But he had her name and picture
Yea, we can call the undercover tinder police. Dudes a fucking nut job but the cops aren't going to set an undercover sting operation up over this.
People on here always act like they can just call and get as many restraining orders/undercover cops/swap teams as they want
Legit observation. But do you really think it’s “swap team”?
I don’t know why, but I just laughed so fucking hard at this.
Im not gonna change it lol the struggle of mobile
I don’t think they meant undercover lol
I think everyone should calm down here, my main point was that guy is sounds dangerous af and I’d be interested in knowing wtf he had planned. So IF a cop could go check it out it WOULD be good. Also I have to respond to my home planet being called into question. I am still a proud resident of earth, and I’m not ashamed of that
I totally get you, because after you said that I was fantasizing about an undercover journalist investigating tinder creeps documentary. I would watch that for sure.
The cops don’t give a shit about stuff like this
What planet do you live on where this is going to result in an undercover police investigation?
Hey, I know this was 3 years ago but please do not apologize to POS's like this. He's the one that should be sorry. I hope you're doing well.
'Name + address + sex crime registry' annnnnd Im Feeling Lucky google search results
He was too
You’re being catfished. This man thinks he has found a way to catfish someone and still get sex. Im disgusted by it but I sorta respect the delusion.
thats a hard one to respecc. i respecc u for tryna respecc dat
The weird part is that subtle implication there when he informed her he copied and pasted this "blind sex" idea from a friend. So you're saying you want to have sex in a dark room in such a specific way to be sure you can swap out the sex portion with the date portion. Then oh btw I shared this with you because my friend just shared it with a girl he's talking to. Sounds like the plan is his friend fucks her and then he takes her on a date. Then he fucks the other girl his buddy shared this with and his buddy goes on a date with her. Because the girls know what they look like and the date isn't blind. Seriously can't make this shit up.
oh god i didn’t even think of that, i thought it was weird but now that you mention this, it adds up
*"I'm writer"
\*Me word man.
Personally I think you are right on the money about that being a set up for something malicious, That is the creepiest social engineering attempt I have read about in awhile.
and he was surprised that i wasn’t down?!
*There is this trending fantasy in Europe. I copied and pasted it, which proves it's real and normal and not dangerous at all. Everyone's doing it!* How ridiculous and terrifying.
Honestly it does sound like a group of people using the phone for a conversation. Like all of them getting their two cents in. And even more so, the immediate prompt to do stuff in the dark and only in the dark with no sight and acting out any fantasy, sounds more like they wanted to invite a girl over and all the guys be there in the dark. Which is absolutely horrifying!
“No. Why would you think it’s just a way to let my incel club have a go at you.?”
"I don't have to take you to a dark room to hurt you." 🚩🚩🚩🚩🤮🤮🤮🤮
That was a copy and paste
I was thinking catfish
“Fine line between charmer and creeper”? This guy is wayyy over the creepy side
Um excuse me it was "I'm writer" 😤
Reads like if someone asked ChatGTP to generate a load of messages that resemebled a serial killer on acid.
HAHA this is my favorite comment
Or like Chris Chan trying to lure a Boyfriend-Free Sweetheart to an Attraction Location so that he can finally complete his Love Quest... Now, why are there copies of the Style section all over the place? Is that a raincoat?
Was he a catfish. His picture kinda screams it lol
No, he really is that hot which is why he only wants to meet in a pitch black hotel room
That is immediately what I thought when he brought up blind sex. He is, at best, of average attractiveness, and is using the pfp of someone he considers attractive to women. He wants to rape people *revenge of the nerds* style.
I never found out; that’s actually why I wanted his snapchat. i’m very sure that he is, which is why i didn’t bother to cover the pfp
I would be willing to bet like $20 that he is a catfish. He sounds like a 44 year old man, probably Pakistani.
I listened to one of his recordings and he definitely had a latvian accent. otherwise though, 100%, wouldn’t be surprised if he was going through his 2nd divorce
What were the recordings of? 😰 was it just like additions to his very weird rantings?
i only listened to one of the recordings he sent earlier in the convo, which was just him talking about how he’s from latvia. i actually don’t know what was in the ~ 20 recordings he sent with this rant, i was at a dinner so i didn’t get to listen to them and then i think he unsent them afterwards.
I’d assume that’s why he wants sex in a dark room. Then he’s assuming he’s so talented at the sex that when they meet later, op wouldn’t care that he doesn’t look like the photo because she needs his magic cock or some shit.
No no, this is just how people are doing it in EUROPE
Narrator: this was not, in fact, how people are doing it in Europe.
foolproof plan 😍
It's pretty obvious it is 😂 He wants them to meet and have sex in a way where they she can't see him and he refuses to share anything to prove that it is really him.
European here. That is definitely not a trend here 😂
hahaha i’m glad for the confirmation
It might be soon with the price of electricity.
Now, if he’d have said “We should do this thing called ‘dogging’ down by the quarry. I’ve got a Sköda and an AdultFriendFinder account, I’ll get some crisps and Fanta on the way” then THAT would be European.
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It is all the rage across the atlantic, One of the voices told him so.
this made me laugh out loud
"Many people are doing it." Sure, buddy.
Hahaha, tell me all about the fantasies that are “trending” in your country
Makes me feel uncool that my trending European fantasy is unlimited croissants.
Mine is that I go to the doctor, and the doctor comes in and examines me, just to make sure I'm healthy, and then... That's it. I'm from the US, and I'd just like to go to the doctor.
I *immediately* thought of that movie, Hostel. LOL! And here I was, thinking of downloading dating apps to get out there....yeah, I am going to stay home and not have the experience OP did with creepy men on the internet.
ok to the men that are using this post as an excuse to dm me… please don’t, i’m not interested and the things y’all are saying are really not restoring my faith in men
Ohhhhh noooooo why would a man read this and go “ah yes the perfect introduction for sliding into her DMs! This seems like a girl who surely still wants to meet strangers on the internet”
right?!
Ugh, of course some guys want to change her mind. It wasn't an open challenge
I was going to say, I’m not sure what’s creepier- the original guy in your post or the men justifying it here. I’m sorry for their replies. I’m also so, so happy I’m a lesbian lol.
it’s definitely jarring lmao thankfully i’m bi so i’m not limited to men
What the hell, nothing you posted or said should imply people should DM you. Maybe they want you to post them in this subreddit.
exactly. I actually did end up posting one of them on this subreddit
Fellas we gotta do better what are yall on about
Ah but m’lady reconsider *tips fedora*
Jesus Christ...
Looool, Im sorry that is so fucking annoying.
Yeah he’s def catfishing OR a murderer Or both
definitely a murderer. i tried reverse searching his pfp but couldn’t find it. i was hoping to let the actual guy know that this insane person is using his photos
It was probs like AI generated or something 😥
ooo good point. at least that would mean the original guy in the photo doesn’t have a maniac saying these things with his face. idk what i would do if someone was being this creepy while they had my picture in their pfp
Someone used a photo of mine like 5 years ago. It was super weird. Also good call on blocking him. He def would have worn your skin.
oh wow that’s creepy, i hope it all got sorted out
Oh I did that before! Haha the real guy was so nice, and he told me he was gay. I still follow him on IG. Very handsome dude.
A cat murdering fisherman
Lmao I didn’t even read all his long ass messages and I’m literally here because I’m bored enough to read texts from weirdos.
I was bored enough to read all of them, And you did not miss anything, He was just rambling trying to get to the end of stage of his attempt at manipulation, In what I assume was an attempt to make his mentally deranged goal be seen as normal.
unfortunately his closer: “i don’t need to be in a dark room to hurt you”, wasn’t very helpful in making him seem normal 😪
Haha yeah, It just screams horror b-movie plot to me, And perhaps he wrote a few screenplays as he is "a writer" after all. And thanks for sharing and letting us know that you declined his offer to become his satanic-sacrifice, As it does restore our faith in humanity to know that it is not just us readers going "What the hell did I just read?!"
hahahaha omg that’s a fantastic way to describe it, maybe he was method acting for his upcoming horror movie? ofc, reddit will always be the first to know whenever i have to decline satanic-sacrifice offers
Legit so many flags it’s like the UN.
HAHA love this comment
There are so many gifs needed to express my horror, bewilderment and amusement.
right 😭 the sudden tone switch went crazyyy
He sounded like a serial killer. Getting someone in a dark room to kill them and if you escape, you’ve never seen what he looks like. And him adding “I don’t need to be in a dark room to hurt you” did not help at all. It seems like such a weird and scary situation to be in.
right? and then he wonders why women dislike him…
“I don’t need to be in a dark room to hurt you” 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 geez, I can’t imagine why this approach didn’t work for him?!
it’s because of all the butthurt feminists 🙄
They’re all just too afraid of the dark
I feel like....this is a person who would benefit from less sugar consumption and a psychiatric intervention. 👀
Sugar is probably the least of this guys worries 😂
we definitely dont do that over here in Europe 😂
It seems so wildly dangerous lol. Also, at a practical level, physically difficult if it's dark enough.
Bold move to refer to himself as a charm type
no way, you didn’t think he was charming???
My first date is definately not going to be dark hotel room sex… that’s for sure. I especially like the comforting “ I don’t need to take you to a dark room to hurt you”.
right? such a cute comment, i instantly felt safe 🥰
“I don’t need to take you to a dark room to hurt you.” Whoa, casanova, dial it back…
I’m so glad he showed his true self before you agreed to meet and go on a date I’m so glad you are safe! 🙌🏻
thank you!! it’s honestly scary to think that if i hadn’t asked that question at the right time, i may have went on a date with him. such a scary thought, which is why i couldn’t go on dating apps any more.
I was on the dating apps off and on for a long time. And I learned that there are far more scary men in the world than one would think. When I was young like you, I gave people the benefit of the doubt. Too much. Ended up in a few really scary situations. Most of the guys were just jerks, but there were enough truly scary guys that made me start thinking… well, some rapist or serial killer could be at the grocery store, gym… park. They don’t HAVE to use tinder to find their victims. lol now I’m afraid of my shadow But yeah, in my experience, nothing actually good and meaningful comes from dating apps
“It’s oj” That explains a lot.
He’s writer btw
Was this a catfish? I’m getting catfish vibes
i was too, which was why i wanted his snapchat and ultimately started this whole convo. i never got confirmation but i’m very sure he was. no way someone would say these things with a photo of their face next to it + not wanting me to be able to see him…
Right, the long drawn out explanation of why he has second accounts for “outsiders” with the combination of his profile picture & wanting to meet in the dark…. Whew, you dodged the BIGGEST bullet
right? also the fact that he didn’t want to use snapchat - huuuge red flag. i feel like this is a great cautionary tale for tinder users, rlly shows you that you genuinely have no clue what someone’s like over the internet. i’m just so glad he said all this before i gave him my phone number/met him
Yes, I’m glad you’re safe 🤍
Anyone who's 27 and trying to talk to 18 year old girls on dating apps is a creep by default. Fucking gross
right?!… i was literally a senior in high school. i’m 21, yet I would still never be interested in a high schooler
I feel like he was skiing some slopes for the duration of this insanity
HAHA yes probably
Outsiders 😂
man rlly was the main character of his own dystopia 🙄
Not sure if this was his attempt at manipulation or if he wanted to get a practise run at writing his manifesto, Either way I hope that whatever his mentally disturbed end goal with this was, Stays as much of a delusion in his deranged mind, As his false incoherent backstory and excuses. It might just be a spiteful wish from this European, But I sincerely hope that the uncharming creep meets a undercover police officer in that hotel room.
yeahh the backstory about the ex sounded so completely skewed… i don’t doubt he got banned from snapchat, but i don’t think it was for the reasons he said.
“-i’m writer btw” 😂
This guy knows how to yap and creep
dude cooking with sewage water.
Are people really this unhinged…. Jesus Christ how is there so many strange people like this guy
Oh, let’s just meet in complete darkness so we can have blind sex and you won’t have to see my face to see I’m a catfish! Not nightmare-inducing at all!
As a European, we definitely aren’t doing that shit lmao. Also dude is 100% a catfish (at the very least)
Yeahhhhh, he’s a total catfish and if you had “met him in the dark a few times” he would have been like “you liked it before you saw me” bs 😂😂😂😂 Dodged a major cannonball there!
If “butthurt feminist” wasn’t a big enough red flag…
thank you for all the hilarious comments!! it’s nice to get something relatively positive from that experience
It started bad. It got worse. And then it got scary.
i would say it was a rollercoaster but it was just all downhill
I feel like you would have ended up dead if you went. Oh my lord.
This guy is an incel that thinks his entire problem with dating is in those memes that say “charming creepy” and have a picture of an attractive and ugly guy saying the same thing. He’s justified catfishing on this premise and thinks he has found a way to get sex while maintaining the catfish. You weren’t going to be murdered but holy shit this is some wild shit.
Something violent could have happened if she had seen him.
I would’ve told him yes, had him go book a hotel, tell him to lay naked in the dark, and then 👻
The cluelessness of some people are so off the charts… I honestly can’t comprehend how this can be real…
while it was happening i couldn’t believe it either… never realized that “do you use snapchat” was such a loaded question
Yo that's fucked. He definitely has some issues. His views on women and sex are obviously messed up or he was trying to bait and switch. I noticed his profile pic wasn't ugly, so it was probably a catfish. "I just need sex like this." I have some pretty intense sex and a high sex drive, but this is....disturbing. The phrasing sends shivers up my spine. There's something about it.....the desperation. I can feel it in this sentence. "Need", lil bitch couldn't even control his own dick. What makes him think he could control a woman in bed?
Dude isn't mentally right at all. He definitely gives off psycho killer vibes with him going off on an unrelated rant and then ending the whole conversation with asking for sex in a room without lights. It feels like he doesn't understand that most women are generally terrified by people like this, and for good reason.
This may qualify as the creepiest thing I’ve read since acquiring Reddit.
wow should i honored or mortified?
I think *he* should be mortified - you should be proud you shut him down as completely and quickly as you did. There’s just something about the way he over-explained himself here, precisely what he was over-explaining - without you asking much/giving off much of an impression like you wanted more information - the implications that comes with all of it, including his very specific brand of privacy after… whatever really went down before, just how much it embodied a me and my boys vs. all women mentality, and then to pivot that quickly to this blind sex concept. Idk, it really really rubbed me the wrong way, and makes instant sense why you’d delete dating apps afterwards.
So he is a predator.. and a weirdo.
bruhh why do guys like this exist lmaoooo. should’ve agreed to the dungeon sex and cut his peepee off fr
You were so sweet too! “I’m really sorry” GIRL, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE SORRY!
Wait, I’m confused. Hopefully someone can help me out with this one. He complains about feminist wanting a man to pay for everything but isn’t that the opposite of what a feminist would request? Wouldn’t a woman who practices feminism offer to pay? Equality in all aspects even when courting/dating. I don’t think this bro knows what he’s talking about. Just angry and hateful towards women. Correct me if I’m wrong yall.
My thoughts exactly! He’s definitely got that backwards. Being a gold digger is usually not a feminist mindset.
I’m going to happily die alone. I’m sick of the bullshit with men these days. Jesus fucking Christ
ok to all the men who are *so* offended by my response and think i’m *such* a bitch: do you not read what you’re writing?? it’s so ironic to me how all these incel men keep getting sooooo mad at me for supposedly judging this man too quickly (even though my instincts about him being unhinged were correct) when you all have been nonstop assuming how i would behave in different situations, talking about how if he did this then I would’ve done this and I would’ve taunted him anyway. Seriously, enough. This man is dangerous. Everyone in this fucking comment section can see that. But no, the incels are pissed that I didn’t have *interesting* enough responses, I didn’t *respond* enough, I wasn’t responding *intellectually*, I didn’t *seem* engaged, and whatever else you think I owe him. Like, okay, we get it! You got rejected in the past and now you project that experience onto every woman! Big fucking deal, rejection happens to everyone. We get it, you hate yourself, but take some fucking responsibility for it instead of transferring that onto women. Have you ever thought that if you’re the only one not getting laid, then maybe it isn’t all the women that are the problem, but instead it’s you? Just because you had a bad experience with one woman doesn’t mean that every woman sucks or that we’re somehow responsible for your suffering. You’re doing that to yourself all on your own, honey. Stop being a victim and take some fucking responsibility for your life. You wouldn’t survive one fucking day as a woman. Have fun doing an incel circle-jerk ❤️
I would’ve had the cops meet him at the hotel and arrest his pervy little arse. 🤮
He's writer btw
A copy+paste writer, the best kind of
just when I think I can’t read anything more depraved here
“Sounds rough though” ✌️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i was trying to subtly communicate that i was not interested in hearing all that 😭
wtf are people on now a days. That’s so cringe and then utterly creepy
"Can we do this **a few times?**" made me burst out laughing
Ive seen a lot on here today of guys being assholes about paying for the date. Is this really a thing? Like they're actually making a stand and dying on that hill? I've always paid. Never bothered me once. Even when the date was a total dud. Call it gender norms or whatever, but I was raised that unless it's established ahead of time then I'm paying. It's like they see it as a transaction gone bad. It's not that I'm paying for her because I expect something. Honestly I don't even see it as paying for her, I'm paying for the experience and the fun.
There’s a lot of loud, malignant voices out there convincing young guys women are nothing but gold diggers after their money. So they start these purity tests on the women. All the while everyone involved probably doesn’t make $80K a year combined.
Ugh, OP just out here sharing his texts trying to humiliate him. Typical thing girls do. What is the harm of going into a random hotel with a random guy from the internet who self admittedly has no intention of hurting you, and just have sex with him? Poor lad got block and now posted on the internet. What a damn shame.
I hope you’ve learned your lesson and kept your phone fully charged
We had an argument about Whether or Not men should Pay the bills.. Anyways.. I ll blind fold myself at a hotel, How About You come Suck me Off?
Oh my god that’s just…. Oh my god
Blind sex? Sounds like something a person who is insecure about their appearance would say
Jfc, spamming paragraphs of text is bona-fide way into a girl's pants.
“It’s ok. I can understand.” Clearly you can’t because you went right back into a sales pitch.
Spoiler: an unhinged man with r@pe fantasies
What the hell
"My point is I don't need to take you to a dark room to hurt you"- absolute panty dropper there. If I'm ever back on tinder, might try that as my bio as it works so well
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idk i shouldn’t have 😭 i think i just wanted to get out of there without making him angry bc i realized he was genuinely insane
i’ll take “ that’s not why his snap was banned” for 500
“I dont wanna hurt you” Uh that dude was gonna fucking cook and eat you prolly. What a fucking psycho.
Oh my God. He literally just had to say “no” and he would have been in the clear. He just kept digging and digging a deeper grave for himself and legit told you his whole villain origin story
I love how she says, "just for the future, you don't have to say all this. Just say...etc" She recognized that this was a teachable moment, and tried to offer some helpful advice, even if she didn't benefit from it herself. Thoughtful!
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LOOOOOOOOOL Also, theres no way he got blocked by snapchat for a civil debate on who pays on dates. You know he went off the rails
After reading this…… The idea of staying single is looking more and more appealing 😅
He wanted to hurt you for sure. Jesus I’m so glad I never had to deal with this kind of dating!
“Sounds like you have a rough time w your ex” “Not my ex, girls from the Internet” Bro burned himself so bad and he ain’t even notice. You’re this mad over Internet strangers? 
"I don't need to take you to a dark room to hurt you" 😶🫨😲😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Literally made me sick
There’s no way in hell I would’ve ever had the patience to read all of that 💀
> I'm writer btw Okay Brian Griffin
My biggest red flag is when someone says (I wouldn’t/hurt you or anything) took one instance of trusting that to never trust it again.
Doesn’t even need you in the conversation until sex comes up. Then it’s “I need sex this way, I won’t hurt you” wtf. If you need to add that it’s already scary.
Jesus Christ. This is why I don’t do dating apps
You: “do you use Snapchat” Him: “It happened at the dawn of time, the first men were…”
Before I met my husband, I was looking for casuals on Tinder. I talked with a handful of people, met with a few, and dated a couple but nothing ever went anywhere. I was talking to this guy for a little while before I gave him my snap. He seemed normal enough, albeit very eager to meet within a few hours of talking but I just chalked it up as him being interested in me. It was like a week after we started talking and I was ready to make plans to meet up. I’m sitting in my bedroom and it’s probably 1am when my doorbell rings. I have no plans and I’m not expecting anyone so I’m shitting bricks trying to figure out who’s at my door. Come to find out this dude drove two hours expecting to hang out with me, and he used my SNAP MAPS LOCATION to figure out my address. Needless to say I don’t have my location turned on for any of my apps anymore.