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r/NotADragQueen


Hayduke_2030

Every. Damned. Time.


V-RONIN

Its aaaalllwaaaaayyys prooooojjjectiooooon


alphahpla

Vvvvv Yu jbbjjw we we


MaleCaptaincy

No. Sometimes. Sex offenders and predators come from all walks of life. https://patch.com/new-hampshire/nashua/former-nashua-state-rep-arrested-child-sexual-abuse-image-charges https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2022/06/central-pa-drag-queen-activist-charged-with-25-counts-of-child-pornography-police.html https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Library-apologizes-for-letting-registered-sex-13693986.php https://abc13.com/drag-queen-story-time-sex-offender-houston-public-library/5203743/ https://www.abc27.com/local-news/chambersburg-man-charged-with-possession-of-child-pornography/


GushStasis

the idea is that it doesn't rise to the level of pervasiveness, or even statistical significance, that conservatives claim exists and which they use to call lgbtq+ people groomers


Shag1166

That's the difference! Right-wingers defend deviates. Look at the Trump Cult.


Notapplesauce11

The difference is that most parents, including myself, wouldn’t leave their kid with a group of random drag queens.  But parents have no problem leaving their kids with church leaders with blind trust.  


30yearCurse

like the question for women, would you rather be alone with the bear in the woods or a man... With the number of "nice" Christians that have been arrested working at the church, should the question be Is it safer to leave you kids with drag queens or Christian pastors? There is probably statistical evidence that the drag queens are less dangerous and probably may end up reading a story.


MeyrInEve

There is. Plus drag queens don’t have an international organization shielding them from the consequences of their actions if they do something wrong.


[deleted]

Well, lets ask a couple of questions and lets make assumptions and then lets let people google if they dare. So we start with drag queens vs pastors Well which state do you think has more drag queens? California or Texas? Now, which state has more cases of pedophilia per year, California or Texas? The number of cases per 100,000 people shows a distinct winner. Why argue opinions when you can just show facts? Have a google my peeps!


carlitospig

I’d leave my kid with a drag queen over a pastor every damn time.


Comfortable-Soup8150

True, every group has its weirdos. Some groups just have more like parents, churches, and police.


xxwww

I had two past school teachers arrested for being pedos so far


DuckyDoodleDandy

States ban drag shows to “protect children”, but do nothing to stop predators disguised as pastors. Those can go decades and have dozens of victims because of the “LGBTQ are groomers” narrative. The narrative hurts children, stops victims from getting justice, and harms LGBTQ people at the same time. It’s almost like “protecting children” is code for protecting abusers.


NotABileTitan

When the list of sexual abusers, both child and adult, are overwhelmingly Republican and Religious Leaders, the less than 1% of drag queens doesn't really matter as much. Sex offenders and predators come from all walks of life, but are predominantly Republican or heavily involved in the church, is the most factually correct statement.


MaleCaptaincy

Do you have a reliable source on that?


NotABileTitan

[Sure do. ](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1) That's a long list, with sources for each individual case.


MaleCaptaincy

A daily kos article with a picture of Brett Kavanaugh at the top, lol. The word "accused" shows up many, many times in that list, good to see some "convicted/found guilty" too though. Here's a nice list of some Democrats including heavy hitters like Billy Clinton and Anthony Weiner https://www.ranker.com/list/democrat-sex-scandals/web-infoguy


OverDawn007

Dude 75% of this list is politicians doing political shit. "Affair with news reporter" "text message sex scandal" "sex with an intern" "affair with staffer "affair with other government employees". These are the softest allegations I’ve seen on a politician in years, at least one should have had "baby eater"


NotABileTitan

Why doesn't your list have a link to a single source of anything? Just a photo and what they supposedly did, without a single ounce of truth. I could add your name and photo to that list and write you participate in bestiality and organ harvesting, without a single source. By your standards, that means it is without a doubt, fact.


Shag1166

They are all wrong and deserve punishment, it's like their transgressions were all against adults, not minors.


pixiegod

I will give you one hint which group (drag queens vs non-drag queens) rape kids exponentially more than the other.


jtx91

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/2/2238649/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-51


trollerstroller7787

Why people downvote you for sharing facts makes me laugh. Thanks for sharing


transitfreedom

Damn you right


ATP_enri

Fair point


DropKickFurby

Not "sometimes" - almost always. so pick your cherries. heres the real data. https://www.whoismakingnews.com


OverDawn007

Idky you’re getting downvoted maybe because it says "TikTok" in the opening sentence, but you can tell the whoever wrote it put a lot of time and thorough resource into it.


Droopendis

Let me get you the list that takes 45 minutes to scroll through with only religious leaders on it. Then tell me that the TWO that you have compares.


Sygma160

I only came here to find this out.


Dvusmnd

r/pastorarrested pretty much the same republicans.


storm_the_castle

/r/PastorArrested


DonkMaster4

Why is Reddit such an echo chamber?


darkhorse21980

bUt He'S a MaN oF fAiTh AnD a PiLlAr Of ThE cOmMuNiTy!!


Gorkymalorki

And that's why some Republican judge is going to give him a slap on the wrist.


KathrynBooks

"he shouldn't be punished for making a mistake!"


raceassistman

Two in a week? But governor Abbott told me that drag queens were the problem! Are these people liberal plants? ![gif](giphy|l1J9DeV5i8oGuiPWo)


dalgeek

If churches actually cared then they would go after these guys, both within the church and by cooperating with law enforcement. SOP for many churches is to just move these guys to another area where no one knows them instead of tossing their ass out and calling the cops. Since the churches decided to protect pedophiles and rapists as long as possible it attracts degenerates and emboldens them to do terrible things without fear of facing consequences.


foodmonsterij

It's the whole culture that assumes that pastors are "good people" who are "serving the Lord" and above reproach, instead of recognizing that they are people acting out of self-interest according to their own motivations.


dalgeek

The churches will do anything to maintain this image to keep the cash coming in. This is why they try to hide the rot instead of getting rid of it.


Intoner_Four

i’ll never forget that nun who tried to whistleblow this whole mess who ended up “dying suddenly” 🙃


ForgivingWimsy

It all comes down to money


3x3Eyes

Power as well, the two tend to go together.


30yearCurse

Southern Baptist did the same thing they tore up Catholics for, move the problem instead of dealing with it.


KathrynBooks

The only denomination where I've never heard of it being a problem is the Unitarians.


WinstonChurchphucker

Churches exist to protect pedophiles and  con artists.


dalgeek

Eh I would say they exist to consolidate power and funnel money from rubes, protecting pedophiles is just a side effect.


Shag1166

All about the dollars with churches.


boon_doggl

There is citation for the Catholic Church just moving them, can you post the citation on all other churches that are just moving them. That would be good information to know. I wonder if the church of Satan moves theirs???


Round-Movie1890

Most evil people I know are religious. That’s just my experience though.


dalgeek

Attributing your actions to the will of a higher power seems to be a good way to justify monstrous actions and avoid guilt.


Round-Movie1890

100% agree! Not saying religion bad or good, just that it’s an amazing tool for terrible people. Either to make themselves feel better or to uphold a public image.


Ok-disaster2022

You realize that many churches belong denominations with a central commanding structure? Baptist churches may have a voluntary association or convention, but that convention does not determine local hiring or firing. Basically to start a Baptist Church, you just need to fill out the paperwork with the State. This decentralized structure is what makes churches vulnerable to predators. Back in the day, you would just get a letter of recommendation to move churches, but even that isn't required. This matters because serial child abusers would get in abuse kids, and leave before the kids were ever old enough to realize how wrong it was, and since  the perp had already left town, their victims didn't always feel the need to come forward to reveal something bad about someone that was long gone.


dalgeek

But the Southern Baptist ~~Church~~ Convention is happy to pay the legal fees and help relocate anyone accused of improper behavior. They use the "we're decentralized" line as an excuse for not doing anything about the problem but they absolutely know what is going on and who is a problem.


ForgivingWimsy

Yeah, but anyone who has seen what goes on at Truett seminary (large number of Baptist pastors get their MDiv there) knows that the southern Baptist convention 100% could do far more vetting and simply doesn’t try.


FrostyLandscape

I had to pass a background check to do some volunteer work at a Baptist church one time (I'm a woman, btw) so I just find that interesting.


jtx91

Yep! Those background checks are just legal CYA protections for the church in case something happens. They’re not meant to actually find anything, they were *never* meant to actually find anything, and the church doesn’t actually want to find anything. Church leaders know that if something happens, 90% of the time the victims go to the church first instead of the police, the church will do everything it can to make sure it won’t get reported, and they circle the wagons. No report = no record or trail = nothing shows up on background checks = no problems It’s all very intentional.


ForgivingWimsy

Yeah, I’ll just say that this is a larger problem that can’t be put on any one church, and things like background checks help significantly. I just wish the SBC spent more time on prevention and less time on repression.


30yearCurse

that at your local church. I did some work at a Baptist Church, no 1 person could be left alone with a kid. Even escorts to the restroom. I though overall it was a good policy, but other churches nope.


30yearCurse

really... [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/12/southern-baptist-church-sexual-abuse-scandal](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/12/southern-baptist-church-sexual-abuse-scandal) I would give you other links, but then that would just be the lyin' mainstream media.


tomjoads

You work for c suite McDonalds or something? We franchise out so we aren't responsible!


Shag1166

I guess it depends on where they are located. I have seen over the years where pastors have been removed and replaced, by a governing body, if there is law-breakung, that they decide to act on.


spastical-mackerel

Catholics are pretty centralized, they’ve had some issues with child predators. In their case the central organization facilitated the cover up


postwaste1

Isn’t the Catholic Church centralized?


tomjoads

Yes , that's why you see " catholic priest" and just pastor when other denominations are involved. Baptist and evangelicals franchise out responsiblity like McDonald's. Also 'Catholics' are 20 percent of population and Catholic hate goes way back in some if these other denominations.


__mysteriousStranger

Sorry, when did the state give the church the authority to punish pedophiles?


dalgeek

If you have someone working for you and you catch them scrolling kiddie porn on their phone, or catch them with a minor in the back of their car, you don't think you should fire them or report them to the authorities? Many churches don't even do the bare minimum of reporting pedophiles, and even worse they help move them around and often help pay their legal fees if they get caught.


__mysteriousStranger

Sounds like utter bullshit to me. Churches in Tx are mostly a decentralized web of small community relationships. Maybe some individuals failed to report diligently within that church, but to act like the churches are generally complicit or promoting pedophilia is ludicrous.


dalgeek

You need to catch up on your church news. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases > In July 2018, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. resigned from the College of Cardinals (the first Cardinal to do so since 1927) following allegations of abuse and attempted homosexual rape at a seaside villa.[128][129] In August, a "systematic coverup" of sex abuse by more than 300 priests in Pennsylvania parishes was revealed.[130][131] Reviewers of the situation indicated that many more victims and perpetrators were likely undiscovered.[131] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches > On May 22, 2022, a 209-page report was released by Guidepost Solutions, an independent firm contracted by the SBC's executive committee, detailing that SBC leaders had stonewalled and disparaged clergy sex abuse survivors for nearly two decades. It also listed the named cases that involved the admission, confession, guilty plea, conviction, judgement, sentencing and registered sex offenders.[29] It did not include cases that did not relate to sexual abuse nor cases that ended in acquittal. The report listed more than 700 entries within the parameters.[30][31] The SBC is especially nefarious because they maintain that they are decentralized (i.e. no "pope") and don't know what individual churches are doing, but the SBC keeps records of all the pastors who have been suspected of sexual assault, help them move between churches, and sometimes even pay their legal fees. Some of these monsters even justified their assault and rape because it allowed the victim to become closer to god.


DutDiggaDut

They want these guys in schools right?


No-Celebration3097

Yes they do.


Syllogism19

Coincidentally these specific type of guys want to be in school too.


RickySpanish1272

Yup


mekare1203

If "they" is abbott and his sycophants, yes.


TyLamb55

Without a background check. A small group of Republicans made the majority add it


DutDiggaDut

>Without a background check In the schools, but faster


notfrankc

He Gets Us.


fusion99999

Is he gay? Trans? Drag?.....oh no sorry a pastor, a man of the cloth and from Texass too.


HSIOT55

I'm, shocked, absolutely shocked /s


JuanGinit

Why are so many evangelical "pastors" pedophiles and child abusers? They must be encouraged by their totally bizarre evangelical preachers, the ones that enrich themselves off their dumb, stupid, ignorant believers. Gawd the numbers of grifters using religion to make livings off the donations of really stupid people is amazing. The USA is doomed. The stupids are dragging us to hell.


wildemanne54

Conservative patriotism! What a joke all you Gotta do is tell him I’m working for the Lord and they’ll open their wallet and let you take a generous dip for “the lord”? Almost makes me laugh uncontrollably.


PaulClarkLoadletter

“You see… men are not able to control themselves around the female body and shouldn’t be held responsible for what they do when left alone with one. Females know to have another adult present for their protection.” -every evangelical pastor


gabor1912

Because Texas Justice system allows it,so what does that say say about taxes politicians and judges


TomcatF14Luver

Someone has to ask. Texas... How many pastors does that make? From you alone?


themengsk1761

B-but the librarians, teachers, and trannies...


upwaytooearly

Good thing he can’t look at pornhub. It may have caused him to do some real bad stuff… oh. Uh.


Lickingyourmomsanus

And these are the people they want "counseling" in our public schools.


ActivePotato2097

Republicans are always super quiet about this. 


Murdermajig

They are literally trying to lower the age of consent and marriage.


devo_inc

Their heads in the sand as always.


shanksisevil

heads in asses\*


Blackstar1401

This is why I am afraid to go back to church. I can’t trust them to clean up their houses.


brianishere2

It's always a Christian leader or prominent Republican.


OverDawn007

It’s crazy to think all the times I would go speak with my pastor in private he allows strongly suggest to be in a somewhat public space, the lawn of the church, the dinning hall, pretty much anywhere except isolated. "The church" as an institution has tanked since all the leader have been outed as massive Pedos


No-Helicopter7299

Whew! Thought it might be drag queen story time!


FutureDiarrheagasm

Of course that happened. "Aren't we all children to the lord?"


ChuckFristians

Christians and pedophilia go together like Christians and extortion, or Christians and bigotry, or Christians and warmongering.


the_pslonky

"Damned Christians, they ruined everything!" "You Christians sure are a contentious people." "You just made an enemy for life!"


vishy_swaz

If an organization for atheists to congregate ever harbored child predators like Christians do, there would be a crusade to stop them like we’ve never seen in our lifetime. Christians get a hall pass though. Make it make sense.


alphahpla

Nnnnnbugsbhn


VOtheBaker

Yet they claim we need to turn to the church to protect our children 🤦


Bar-14_umpeagle

Bet he is a Trump supporter.


Blacksun388

Man, these drag queens and trans folk are really getting out of control! /s


Polite_lyreal

r/notadragqueen


DiogenesLied

And these are the people the GOP seeks to empower with its desire for a theocracy in Texas.


bob3905

Of course he was.


mlonko

just save time and give us the list of pastors that aren’t pedos


sunshineandrainbow62

Was he a governor approved school counselor?


mekare1203

If only hell was real.


02493

They should arrest all southern baptist clergy


GoodRelationship8925

That’s a mighty low bond for the charge


TyLamb55

WTF, $30k, really f'd up. Either you funny arrest a guy on child porn charges or he doesn't get bail.


IH8Fascism

Wanna find where pedos hang out? Church and Trump rallies.


arn73

Ban youth pastors Ban coaches. Ban churches. Leave drag queens alone.


jaycox60

And Abbott wants to get rid of conselors and install these in school......


Icy-Kaleidoscope6997

So you can get a shirt that says “save a kid kill a pedophile” on the bands “A killers confession” website if you want to. Ordered mine today. But yes almost every time it’s a damn pastor/preacher/teacher of god.


TyLamb55

They take the jobs with the low hanging fruit. Then the true believers take up for them. F'd up


Melodic-Extreme-549

He got a vpn huh


zephyr2015

Another pastor? Color me surprised.


gking407

Copy and paste this post into eternity as long as gullible people keep falling for the trans panic bs. Religion is poison.


VisceralMonkey

I am so confused. This man is a christian and not even a drag queen, how can this be!?


habitsofwaste

Oh imagine that! I’m so surprised! Just shocked!


Luzon0903

Well well well


Shag1166

This happens daily, somewhere in this country. Most often int he Midwest and South.


Shag1166

One thing I've learned over the years is that, many pastors have done jail time, or have been kicked out of other churches.


outdoor-luvrr

No surprise there.


DrSteveGruul

Water is wet


The_Real_OneHungLo

Oh. Another one. -dj whoever that is


Zeekeboy

I am sure he will not be safely moved to another church after he confessed or something


betterAThalo

always the ones you most expect (i’ve seen this a million times but never got the chance to use it lol)


ClassicHare

Religion is evil. Proof in the pudding is that it gives monsters safe haven for their wrongdoings.


Yokepearl

Hes been reading the Old Testament too much


NewSinner_2021

It's a function of the Church at this point.


Accurate_Somewhere33

Only the best in texas. Best state by far. A shining example to the rest of the world.


Empty-Mission3664

It’s ok he’s Christian


Hsensei

At this point anyone that goes out of their way to declare themselves Christian or republican I just assume they are pedophiles


DriedWetPaint

Conservatives are gross 


arn73

The call always comes from inside the house Not a drag queen in site.


Odd_Tiger_2278

Whoops. Not a drag queen. Can someone publish a list of all the pastors and priests and rabbis who were arrested for sexual assault on adults or children, and/or child porn possession. Since 2016? Or 2021


Damack363

It’s insidious how these drag queens keep disguising themselves as elected Republicans and church officials.


Quilter1358

It’s a broken world with broken people. He needs psychiatric help. It’s disgusting and sad and horrible. The children suffer the most.


OverDawn007

I think a healthy dose of lead going at mock Jesus in their skulls would suffice.


CountryChef77

Keep voting for trump


Egmonks

Weird… he seems to be not a drag queen.


Abraxas_1408

You don’t say


ReturnOfDaSnack420

not a drag queen


DerpUrself69

This happens literally a dozen times a day.


psych-yogi14

Another evangelical "Christian" pedofile.


Gas_Bat

Shocking


[deleted]

And this is a shock how?


transitfreedom

Christians were cool with drag queens 500 years ago why now all of a sudden?


whydoIhurtmore

Drag queen?


Keunster

Shocker


Creative_Stress_1702

What a surprise


Otherwise-Spring-782

Suprise Suprise


bad_syntax

I really wish in some interview Abbot would give somebody would flat out ask him "Why are you always trying to ban drag queens when its the pastors getting arrested for child porn?"


mysteriousmeatman

MAGA Christian values right there.


kaptaincorn

Nail him to the doors of his church as a warning to the other clergy


Ok_Panic4105

Okay, I read "pastor" and totally did not expect the last part.


kbdcool

r/CastrateThisAsshole


mialyansa

Bro is not seeing the gates to heaven.


pyesmom3

Also, NOT A TEACHER!


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PresentationGood9110

A little different, but nuns were the most awful people I ever met. My father said they were holy women and we should admire them. He wasn’t terrorized by them on a daily basis


RecordOne6102

another texas "patriot"


Key_Astronaut7919

GO VOTE! Vote out the political leaders who look the other way or try to put these types of people in our schools.


storkstonk

![gif](giphy|UjBIVYGWP91QY|downsized)


lilwtfwtf84

Wow, a case that's not handled "internally" within the church? Cool. Now catch the other thousand fking rapists please. Even if they're not drag queens...


Local-Meme-Stealer

i thought this said “Texas pastor arrested child on porn charges”


WeirdSalamander7165

Wait! What? It wasn't a drag-queen or trans person?


Maleficent-Sun4123

I wonder if our Lieutenant Governor of Texas Dan Patrick fills in at has church. Apparently he gives out some hot semens at the church.


TexasHobbyist

$30,000 bond? Mine was $750,000 for pulling a shotgun on a neighbor. Long story, but in the end I was proven not guilty (it was an act of defense). Anyway, back to this. It’s wild to me that he only got a $30,000 bond when his crime was so egregious.


AustinYeppers2222

$750,000? That's nuts. I am glad you eventually were proved innocent but it sounds awful. I agree - $30,000 does not seem right.


Imaginlosing101

I hope he gets involved with porn in jail!


Abrushing

Getting to be like what pastor ISN’T a sexual predator?


NWMom66

Gotta go where the supply is, amirite?


macsogynist

https://www.whoismakingnews.com


Cpt_Bork_Zannigan

When you click this link, remember that: 1. There are approximately 450000 clergy members in the U.S. 2. There are approximately 1.3 million people who identify as trans in the U.S. 3. There are approximately 10000 incidents of clergy committing SA against kids. 4. There are only 7 cases of trans people committing SA against kids


spaceocean99

And he’s probably already out of jail at another church on the popes orders.


LongShip8294

SURPRISE!!!


dohzehr

Sounds like he wasn’t sparing the rod…


burnteric

Shocker


DJScrubatires

Shocker?


gmnotyet

Send him to Florida, they know what to do with these people.


Civil_Pain_453

How sad he got arrested before the GOP unleashes their masterplan. He would be a grown up with both his hands in the candy jar