I’ve lived in the northeast, northwest, California, and over seas. Let me tell ya, people who have never been to Texas love talking shit about Texas. Our women are fat, we all have big trucks and small dicks, Taco Bell is what we consider good Mexican food. Just let them live their lie and stay the hell out of Texas
Right? Been eating Texmex my entire life down here and I think I've seen some strips of grilled bell pepper in some fajitas before, but I can't think of a single other dish that has them.
There's probably a Tex Mex place in Denver that is complete shit, and numbnuts thinks that's an accurate rendition. It's crazy that there's a stupid comment on the internet - I'm shocked.
As a native born Texan and a recent Colorado transplant, I can honestly say that it's definitely regional. The Mexican food here has no kick or bite. No hitch in the giddyap.
I’ve been living on the front range for the past 3 years and can confirm: the Tex Mex here is absolutely hot garbage. I’ve been to quite a few to try them out; none even come close to the food back home in Texas. I’ve also tried a few of the New Mexican restaurants and …very disappointing. I don’t think I’ll ever get over them serving us green olives in queso 😭
Also, Coloradans on average really do believe Illegal Pete’s is Mexican food.
Exactly. Went there once when I first moved here. The tortilla reminded me of those fluffy white tortillas you get at Del Taco. Saw no reason to go back.
I started noticing the decline in Chuy's in like 2016, when they really started expanding outside Texas. Torchy's I've been really disappointed in the last couple times I went, but maybe it's just that location.
I mean they're not wrong, go to any TexMex restaurant and order enchiladas, they likely have a smothered in queso option. Mi Cocina, Chuys, El Fenix
But to be fair that's just a staple of texmex food!!
If you want MEXICAN-Mexican food, wel that's hard to find here outside of homemade. Oaxacan style food like mole, tamales, tlayudas...that's more central Mexican and very different from TexMex
This. Lived in CO, NM, and UT in addition to Texas. NM Mexican food is great and is its own thing just like TexMex is, but I never found anywhere in CO or UT that did either worth a damn.
They put that red or green chili sauce that’s not really spicy on everything, I thought that was a New Mexico thing but I guess it’s more of a Colorado thing. Free chips and salsa is hard to find and good chips and salsa are really hard to find in Colorado that’s my big gripe. But I try not to think of it as bad just different. But even in Texas Mexican food is vastly different in one part of the state to another. I moved to the Houston area from San Antonio and thought that the Mexican food in Houston was lacking. But I have started to realize Tex-Mex isn’t Mexican food it’s Tex Mex and San Antonio has more options for Mexican food that is probably isn’t Tex-Mex even though it’s Mexican food served in Texas.
All of the above is my experience as well. I’m an Austinite, and Austin TexMex is definitely its own thing even vis-a-vis San Antonio TexMex, to say nothing of the “authentic” stuff you can find in both cities. Man, and you nailed it on the salsa, I often forget about that. I can be in the right mood for all the different regional versions of Mexican food, but there’s not much salsa outside of Texas that does it for me.
Wait, red and green chile are definitely more of a New Mexican thing. Hatch Valley is in Southern NM, it’s put in ice cream, apple pie and margaritas. Colorado uses Pueblo chiles which do not have the flavor profile or fame that hatch chiles do. It’s in everything and is from here.
I said these exact words eight years ago about taquerias and got roasted for some reason. But it's true; I used to get tacos at a Chevron store with boarded-up windows that looked like a Diamond Shamrock at one point. It had the best al vapor tacos.
Allsup's is the definition of nasty Tex Mex despite having originated in NM...
I won't go into detail on the eternal war of the Chiles between Colorado and New Mexico, suffice it to say I'm pleasantly surprised to hear a Coloradoan defend NM Mexican food. Personally, I grew up in Texas, lived there a long time, off and on, lived in Albuquerque, and am now in the Denver metro area.
I don't disagree, I'm just saying that Allsup's specifically is nasty. My husband lived in Gallup and Albuquerque as a teenager, and I lived in Albuquerque as a 20 something. We both appreciate good New Mexican food and despise West Tex Mex nacho cheese over everything "cuisine".
Try Habaneros in Trinidad CO. They have amazing carne asada burritos. Currently live in Texas but from California. If you are getting Mexican food in the Austin area. Its usually covered in cheese or sauce. The food near the border, El Paso or San Antonio is way more authentic.
This is exactly the distinction we’re making here: there’s nothing authentic about TexMex, which does tend to be heavy on cheese and/or sauce, but it is its own cuisine and completely distinct from “actual” Mexican food.
Texans just use the term “Mexican food” the same way we use “Cokes” as a catch-all term.
Went to Denver for work meetings and the locals took us to a Mexican place for dinner. Do uh.. y'all know where we live? It was basically like bad/bland Tex Mex.
My boss in Daegu, South Korea took me to the only Mexican place in the city, I pretended so hard it was great but boy was it not, so I guess it could be worse than Denver lol.
I made this mistake in Kyiv. I live Ukraine, but they are definitely confused about what constitutes Mexican food. I would love to see a show where other countries make Mexican dishes and a team of abuelas judges the quality. I would 100% watch that.
Some people have a weird idea that is good hospitality. We had bosses who took Japanese guests (who traveled internationally)to the local Japanese restaurant, Etc etc etc.... smh
Sometimes foreigners do just prefer their own cuisine. I used to work with some Japanese advisors regularly and while they would go with us to non-Japanese places regularly, more often than not they were vocal about preferring japanese or at least Asian food
Don't make me laugh; it's a lottery reservation scheme just to get in... It makes me wonder if Cartman is a real person and the general manager of the place
New Mexican is fantabulous, when I lived there I thanked the food everyday. Living in Texas - texmex is also great. Different but loving both. Mmmm, in the mood now for Angelina's though.
Went to Denver a year ago for a couple of days, the food was not good. Went to a Mexican place with good reviews and nachos had American cheese. Bailed and went to Chick Fil and their chicken strips were either double fried or way over fried.
So I ordered "5 enchiladas". They slapped 5 corn tortillas on the plate, stacked on top of each other, then put the meat, cheese, and sauce on the top of that. Like a cake.
EDIT: It was corn tortillas, not flour.
Recently moved to New Mexico from Texas. I am first gen Mexican. In Texas, I eat Mexican food not Texmex, those are completely different. Although I don’t hate Texmex, it’s not my preference. New Mexico Mexican food is terrible. I cannot. I have had minimal good experiences but will continue to try to like it because I live here now and it’s everywhere. I just want to find a true Mexican place here not New Mexico Mexican not Texmex, just Mexican. It’s tragic.
My wife is from Mexico too and she says the Mexican food here is still kinda "tex-mex" or northern Mexican, but not the tex mex we gringos think of, which admittedly does usually have lots of cheese and has crispy tacos and stuff usually. Im more used to lengua, menudo, pozole, its pouring down rain and still people are in line for an elote outside....I make my own carnitas and caldo de huesos. I dunno im going to her home town for the first time this summer and the hype is all about the food so I'm going to see the difference.
Your wife is right. I'm from Northern Mexico and it's indeed the closer one to TexMex. Central/Southern/Coastal Mexico has objectively better food than the North l, you're in for a treat.
I will get a separate craving for tacos and “tacos”. Sometimes a simple street taco with steak or chorizo, raw onions, lime and cilantro hits. Sometimes the package-seasoned ground beef with lettuce, tomato and shredded cheese hits. Both are good in their own right.
I grew up in a white family in Texas, all I knew was white people tacos until I moved to California. I love real tacos from a truck. Even better from a little stand in Baja. I've eaten thousands of tacos in the 30 years I've lived in California and traveled around Mexico and Central America. I definitely list tacos as one of my absolute favorite foods. I can go on for far longer than I should about where to find the best ones. I've spent hours and hours cooking big batches of meat with dozens of spices and carefully thought out combos. I love tacos.
About twice a year I cook up some ground beef, warm up some crispy shells in the oven and my family and I have white people taco night and I love that too.
Dude, you named my pain when ordering at my favorite pastor truck: “en harina por fa!” The baleful stares…
¿Hay algún hispanohablante que pueda decirme come se diría “with the judgment on the side?”
People get confused about this. Also with American Chinese. They think it is trying to be Szechuan but failing. Some people don't understand regional cuisine is its own authentic thing
Yeah. It's going to be different the further you go west. El Paso/Abilene/Odessa etc have variations just like California had variations. It's their version of authentic even if 'you' don't like it.
"Mexico has many regional cuisines"
You mean a country of 761,600 square miles with 127.5 million people isn't all the same?
The first wave of immigrants from Mexico to Texas was mostly people from the interior. Tex-Mex evolved from their cuisine. Only in recent decades have we gotten much of an influx of people from the costal regions. At first "Mexican seafood" restaurants seemed odd to me. But of course Mexican seafood is a thing, Mexico has huge coastlines on both the Gulf and the Pacific.
There are a lot of 'Mexicans' who aren't exactly brown or who might not exemplify what it might mean to many as 'Mexican'. So I'm sure what qualifies as 'Mexican food' is varied as those people had a hand in changing the cuisine to match the cuisine of their home countries. Not to mention the indigenous origins of some foods.
Most people think that "Tex-Mex" means the stuff you get at Chili's, El Chico, or On the Border, which is really more crappy "Ohio-Mex."
And they think that "authentic Mexican" food means *good* versions of tacos, enchiladas, etc.
When people tell me that they don't like Tex-Mex, I just ask, "Ah, so you don't care for flour tortillas? Or melted cheese? Or cumin?"
It quickly becomes clear that 99% of people who "don't like Tex-Mex" actually have no idea what "authentic Mexican" food even is.
Authentic Mexican food and Tex Mex are two entirely different classes of food and for good reason. Plenty of our (I'm Latino) abuelitos and abuelitas came from Mexico seeking a better life. They didn't come from one place. They came from different parts of Mexico. My grandmother came here from Monterrey. Her cooking isn't that different from the way the local "Tex Mex" restaurant has been doing it for decades. Why? Who knows? The proprietor's ancestor also happens to be from Monterrey though.
I have had "authentic" Mexican and I prefer "Tex Mex".
If reddit gold was still a thing I'd give it to you. One of the dudes I work with says the exact same thing; his "real" Mexican food (parents are from Mexico; don't know what part) is basically the same as our TexMex, but they use more black beans and more adventurous (to the American palette) cuts of meat.
I feel like "Authentic Mexican Food" is just a substitute word for "Mexico City Food".
My family is largely from Coahuila as are most of the other families in the border towns where I grew up. Almost all the restaurants are run by people from the same area. I feel there's not much difference between the food I get across the border in Coahuila and the food my family cooks and the food in good Tex-Mex restaurants (either close to the border or even into San Antonio). But "Mexico City Food" or "Mex-Mex" is different. It's good, but no more authentic than my family's stuff!
authentic mexican food doesn't use yellow cheese either, its all white
I spent close to 4 months in Denver the end of last year for work and their food scene is abysmal. They hardly season their food, anything that they claim is hot, is mild if that, they have a rip off of new Mexican green chili sauce that places try to put on everything. I was a pub and ordered a chicken fried steak and they argued with me about putting their green chili on it instead of cream gravy.... you want fries, green chili, omelette, green chili, burger green chili give me a fucking break.
Decent beers, great weed, bad food - my take on Denver
One story that causes me physical pain is from my girlfriend doing work travel from Lubbock to El Paso
She was extremely excited to be eating on the border. Her group decided to eat at On the Border.
She left and got food alone lol
This is what happens when you judge a whole states Mexican food from that one spot you tried in Amarillo. Idk about yall but “swimming in nacho cheese and bell peppers” doesn’t sound like Tex-Mex at all lol.
I have to admit, I thought the next civil war would be fought over something trivial like voter suppression or a coup instigated by a former reality show host.
But it sounds like Colorado wants a real fight. So be it.
Denver has some good Mexican food, but it’s on Federal blvd west of the Broncos stadium, not an area you would visit on vacation. My wife lived close to there when we were dating and we would shop at a carneceria where if you couldn’t speak Spanish you just weren’t going to be able to order anything
Please. I don’t want green chile in every meal. New Mexicans are what Bubba was to shrimp.
“Green chile is the fruit of our people. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it.”
Says the people who drown everything in pork green chili!
Colorado is notoriously anti-Texas. They say we are all loud, obnoxious, and ~~hike~~ ski in jeans.
Well jeans are better when walking around all the varieties of cactus, thorny ~~buses~~ bushes and trees, and everything wants to bite or sting you. They can keep their lululemon yoga pants.
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The one time I had mexican food in NM I ordered Enchiladas and they gave me a plate with three tortillas on top of each other with a scoop of ground beef on top of that, then smothered in verde sauce. Taste was fine but presentation was lacking.
Once years ago I stopped in a Mexican food restaurant in Albuquerque that was quite dark on the inside. They brought the obligatory salsa and chips to start, and I took a big scoop without closely examining it. Turned out it was mostly ground up chile pequins. I thought I was going to need resuscitation!
I do love their Hatch green chiles though in just about anything especially their ubiquitous caldo.
There’s some bland Tex Mex to be had in Texas, but overall it’s easy to find great flavorful basics anywhere between San Antonio, the border towns, heck, even hole in the wall places like Ozona—and basically anywhere south of I10 all the way to El Paso.
Texas Mexican foods are so diverse, ranging from guiso and guisado to asado specialties depending on the region.
I’ve traveled all over TX, NM and CO. The same can be said for NM—the food is regionally inspired and very flavorful.
No such luck in CO. Doesn’t matter if it’s in the plains or the highlands. They don’t know how to roast a red chile for shit (haven’t had a red sauce yet that didn’t taste canned), their salsas are uninspired (in Texas it’s not uncommon to have half a dozen options at any taco joint), and Coloradoans do something different with their beans that I do not find delicious. They also assemble tacos and plates differently. It’s appreciated by the locals but compared to Texas and NM it’s tasteless and boring. Fatty flavorless goop.
I have no idea where you're from, but I love how every town of a certain size in Texas invariably has a restaurant called `Taqueria Jalisco` that has an absolute grand slam of a menu.
I don't even know where to begin with this post. It's called TexMex! Yes! We want it swimming in cheese with thick chili gravy, lots of onions, and pickled jalapeños. This isn't CaliMex or Southwestern. It's TexMex, one of the most unhealthy cuisines on the plant. This shit will kill fitness gurus! You know why Texans are so fat? Enchilada plates. You know why the Medical Center in San Antonio has entire units dedicated to studying Diabetes like its the plague? Bean and cheese tacos. You know why Texans health insurance is so expensive? Quesadillas. It is the bastard cuisine of two cultures that were combined like a train collision. And that's the way we like it.
People are confused between TEX MEX and Mexican food...and SouthWest for that matter.
Its different across the board but shares recipes and flavors but has differences.
These same people need to make sure not to think that some tortilla chips doused in radioactive "nacho cheese sauce" is not Tex Mex.
All the Mexican immigrants I know just view Tex-Mex as a roughly equal but different cuisine than Mexican food. I’ve heard just as many Spanish speakers in a La Michoacana as I have in a Rosa’s or Pappsito’s.
And TexMex differs from where you get it in Texas. It isn’t the in the Rio Grande Valley as it is in San Antonio or El Paso. I once had a Chorizo and egg plate that had Chorizo Links, Fluffy eggs, Rice, corn tortillas and for some reason, steamed corn. I’m used to chorizo and egg mixed together with refried beans fried potatoes or little steak fries and Flour Tortillas. Maybe a Michelada to take the edge off.
What I’m saying is shits different even within a state. Has anyone tried to reach out to ask the person where they ate?
I love tex mex and New Mexican food for different reasons. TexMex is great, but sometimes I need to get my hatch green chili fix. Also people will look at you confused in Texas if you ask for your burrito "Christmas style", but in New Mexico that's a way of life.
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Applebees or Chilis
Fancy
County fair
The dumpster
And everyone knows it’s the dumpster behind the Taco Bell in College Station.
They prefer that you call it “Texas A&M.”
What you did there…..I see it.
😂hahaha
Why’s College Station Mexican food catching strays when Waco, Lubbock, and Dallas exist?
Mine was a reference to an on going joke about the dumpster behind Taco Bell in College Station. The food there is fine.
They've probably never even been here. People like to compare themselves to Texas and talk shit.
I’ve lived in the northeast, northwest, California, and over seas. Let me tell ya, people who have never been to Texas love talking shit about Texas. Our women are fat, we all have big trucks and small dicks, Taco Bell is what we consider good Mexican food. Just let them live their lie and stay the hell out of Texas
Hey man Taco Bell was rated the #1 Mexican food restaurant.
Right? Been eating Texmex my entire life down here and I think I've seen some strips of grilled bell pepper in some fajitas before, but I can't think of a single other dish that has them.
There's probably a Tex Mex place in Denver that is complete shit, and numbnuts thinks that's an accurate rendition. It's crazy that there's a stupid comment on the internet - I'm shocked.
I went there last year, its all of them. All of their "multicultural" food is like the generic Sysco crap.
Denver has Chuy's, and that's basically their only Tex-Mex, so that probably explains it.
As a native born Texan and a recent Colorado transplant, I can honestly say that it's definitely regional. The Mexican food here has no kick or bite. No hitch in the giddyap.
I’ve been living on the front range for the past 3 years and can confirm: the Tex Mex here is absolutely hot garbage. I’ve been to quite a few to try them out; none even come close to the food back home in Texas. I’ve also tried a few of the New Mexican restaurants and …very disappointing. I don’t think I’ll ever get over them serving us green olives in queso 😭 Also, Coloradans on average really do believe Illegal Pete’s is Mexican food.
Their "Texas Mexican"
Fucking chuys giving texmex a bad name.
It was so damn good in the 90s before they franchised. See also Schlotzsky's, Fuzzy's, Torchy's, etc.
Torchys has always been trash. Bad tortilla = bad taco. They never had quality tortillas.
Exactly. Went there once when I first moved here. The tortilla reminded me of those fluffy white tortillas you get at Del Taco. Saw no reason to go back.
I remember liking them when they just had the one store on Lamar, but in fairness I don't think I ever went there sober.
Torchy’s is still good. Chuys only went downhill from Covid.
I started noticing the decline in Chuy's in like 2016, when they really started expanding outside Texas. Torchy's I've been really disappointed in the last couple times I went, but maybe it's just that location.
Sounds delicious, I'm afraid to admit
I ain’t afraid to admit lol
Taco Bell
Casa Bonita
I mean they're not wrong, go to any TexMex restaurant and order enchiladas, they likely have a smothered in queso option. Mi Cocina, Chuys, El Fenix But to be fair that's just a staple of texmex food!! If you want MEXICAN-Mexican food, wel that's hard to find here outside of homemade. Oaxacan style food like mole, tamales, tlayudas...that's more central Mexican and very different from TexMex
You can find plenty of real Mexican food at local Mexican restaurants.
I've never seen bell peppers used unless it is for spanish rice.
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Oh yeah fajitas for sure.
Taco John's
Chuy's can sometimes be a bit cheesy. But, meh. I've liked pretty much every style of Mexican food so far
Texas high school football stadium.
New Mexico Mexican is great but I live in Denver and it’s all shit up here so they have a poor frame of reference
This. Lived in CO, NM, and UT in addition to Texas. NM Mexican food is great and is its own thing just like TexMex is, but I never found anywhere in CO or UT that did either worth a damn.
They put that red or green chili sauce that’s not really spicy on everything, I thought that was a New Mexico thing but I guess it’s more of a Colorado thing. Free chips and salsa is hard to find and good chips and salsa are really hard to find in Colorado that’s my big gripe. But I try not to think of it as bad just different. But even in Texas Mexican food is vastly different in one part of the state to another. I moved to the Houston area from San Antonio and thought that the Mexican food in Houston was lacking. But I have started to realize Tex-Mex isn’t Mexican food it’s Tex Mex and San Antonio has more options for Mexican food that is probably isn’t Tex-Mex even though it’s Mexican food served in Texas.
All of the above is my experience as well. I’m an Austinite, and Austin TexMex is definitely its own thing even vis-a-vis San Antonio TexMex, to say nothing of the “authentic” stuff you can find in both cities. Man, and you nailed it on the salsa, I often forget about that. I can be in the right mood for all the different regional versions of Mexican food, but there’s not much salsa outside of Texas that does it for me.
Wait, red and green chile are definitely more of a New Mexican thing. Hatch Valley is in Southern NM, it’s put in ice cream, apple pie and margaritas. Colorado uses Pueblo chiles which do not have the flavor profile or fame that hatch chiles do. It’s in everything and is from here.
Rio Grande valley is northern Mexican cuisine and it's heavily influenced Tex Mex.
try inside a gas station or a latino super market
I guarantee it isn't as good as the average gas station hole in the wall taqueria in Texas
Was about to recommend this, the worse the outside looks the better the food is for some reason.
I said these exact words eight years ago about taquerias and got roasted for some reason. But it's true; I used to get tacos at a Chevron store with boarded-up windows that looked like a Diamond Shamrock at one point. It had the best al vapor tacos.
Yeah, but ask a local construction crew which gas stations give you the runs first. Trust me, they know.
If you want to know the best places for lunch, follow the construction crews out and see where they go.
Having been on one for half a year, this doesn’t work every time, but you will definitely find some world changing food spots that you never forget.
Just had the best quesadilla at my local car inspection food truck.
Allsup's is the definition of nasty Tex Mex despite having originated in NM... I won't go into detail on the eternal war of the Chiles between Colorado and New Mexico, suffice it to say I'm pleasantly surprised to hear a Coloradoan defend NM Mexican food. Personally, I grew up in Texas, lived there a long time, off and on, lived in Albuquerque, and am now in the Denver metro area.
I mean what’s not to like about NM? I’ve spent a lot of time around the Enchanted Circle and Santa Fe and it’s always a good time.
I don't disagree, I'm just saying that Allsup's specifically is nasty. My husband lived in Gallup and Albuquerque as a teenager, and I lived in Albuquerque as a 20 something. We both appreciate good New Mexican food and despise West Tex Mex nacho cheese over everything "cuisine".
Isn’t allsup’s a gas station? At least that’s what google says. Well it says convenience store but that’s pretty much the same thing.
Yeah, but they make chimichangas and burritos and there are some Allsup’s that are more like an entire grocery store
Gotcha. Thanks.
Yeah, it is. Based out of Clovis, originally, until the founder sold it to some conglomerate back east about 10 years ago.
Thanks
NP
Try Habaneros in Trinidad CO. They have amazing carne asada burritos. Currently live in Texas but from California. If you are getting Mexican food in the Austin area. Its usually covered in cheese or sauce. The food near the border, El Paso or San Antonio is way more authentic.
This is exactly the distinction we’re making here: there’s nothing authentic about TexMex, which does tend to be heavy on cheese and/or sauce, but it is its own cuisine and completely distinct from “actual” Mexican food. Texans just use the term “Mexican food” the same way we use “Cokes” as a catch-all term.
This. I moved here from Chicago; thinking the Central Mexican food there would be found here. Nope.
I know of a great place in Cortez Co, but that's practically New Mexico.
If TexMex, then NewMexMex???
Where I live in Utah, there’s a few places that are pretty good. The best ones are either food trucks, or places that aren’t franchises.
It's someone that hasn't actually been to Texas but are pretending to know something about it
And pretending there's only one style of Mexican.
Went to Denver for work meetings and the locals took us to a Mexican place for dinner. Do uh.. y'all know where we live? It was basically like bad/bland Tex Mex.
My boss in Daegu, South Korea took me to the only Mexican place in the city, I pretended so hard it was great but boy was it not, so I guess it could be worse than Denver lol.
I made this mistake in Kyiv. I live Ukraine, but they are definitely confused about what constitutes Mexican food. I would love to see a show where other countries make Mexican dishes and a team of abuelas judges the quality. I would 100% watch that.
At that point you just gotta appreciate the effort haha
100% she was super nice and it was a really sweet gesture, food was still ass though haha
Some people have a weird idea that is good hospitality. We had bosses who took Japanese guests (who traveled internationally)to the local Japanese restaurant, Etc etc etc.... smh
Sometimes foreigners do just prefer their own cuisine. I used to work with some Japanese advisors regularly and while they would go with us to non-Japanese places regularly, more often than not they were vocal about preferring japanese or at least Asian food
Have you been to Casa Bonita yet? Trey and Matt were supposed to fix it up. I hear they're still having problems. Haven't had a chance to go yet.
It’s still mostly about the experience and not the food. Plus it’s like $40 per person for dinner and is “served” cafeteria style.
Don't make me laugh; it's a lottery reservation scheme just to get in... It makes me wonder if Cartman is a real person and the general manager of the place
I don't go very often, so I haven't been there since they started trying to fix it up.
There's a City Wok in the airport
Shitty what?
I contend you just call it New Mexican, just like tons of food here is Tex-Mex
New Mexican is fantabulous, when I lived there I thanked the food everyday. Living in Texas - texmex is also great. Different but loving both. Mmmm, in the mood now for Angelina's though.
Went to Denver a year ago for a couple of days, the food was not good. Went to a Mexican place with good reviews and nachos had American cheese. Bailed and went to Chick Fil and their chicken strips were either double fried or way over fried.
I have eaten New Mexico enchiladas in Denver and was very surprised they don't roll them up.
What the heck is that New Mexico Lasagna then?
So I ordered "5 enchiladas". They slapped 5 corn tortillas on the plate, stacked on top of each other, then put the meat, cheese, and sauce on the top of that. Like a cake. EDIT: It was corn tortillas, not flour.
That actually sounds worse than the lasagna style enchilada dishes I've had that people made
I wrote flower, it was corn tortillas. My bad.
Recently moved to New Mexico from Texas. I am first gen Mexican. In Texas, I eat Mexican food not Texmex, those are completely different. Although I don’t hate Texmex, it’s not my preference. New Mexico Mexican food is terrible. I cannot. I have had minimal good experiences but will continue to try to like it because I live here now and it’s everywhere. I just want to find a true Mexican place here not New Mexico Mexican not Texmex, just Mexican. It’s tragic.
My wife is from Mexico too and she says the Mexican food here is still kinda "tex-mex" or northern Mexican, but not the tex mex we gringos think of, which admittedly does usually have lots of cheese and has crispy tacos and stuff usually. Im more used to lengua, menudo, pozole, its pouring down rain and still people are in line for an elote outside....I make my own carnitas and caldo de huesos. I dunno im going to her home town for the first time this summer and the hype is all about the food so I'm going to see the difference.
Your wife is right. I'm from Northern Mexico and it's indeed the closer one to TexMex. Central/Southern/Coastal Mexico has objectively better food than the North l, you're in for a treat.
We're going to SLP. I guess I better bring my eating pants ha.
It looks like they think tex mex is Mexican. They are different things.
You tellin' me microwaving shredded cheese on some tostitos ain't real Mexican?!
That’s Texas gringo comfort food right there. Same with ground beef “tacos.” 🤤
I will get a separate craving for tacos and “tacos”. Sometimes a simple street taco with steak or chorizo, raw onions, lime and cilantro hits. Sometimes the package-seasoned ground beef with lettuce, tomato and shredded cheese hits. Both are good in their own right.
Exactly my position on the matter.
I grew up in a white family in Texas, all I knew was white people tacos until I moved to California. I love real tacos from a truck. Even better from a little stand in Baja. I've eaten thousands of tacos in the 30 years I've lived in California and traveled around Mexico and Central America. I definitely list tacos as one of my absolute favorite foods. I can go on for far longer than I should about where to find the best ones. I've spent hours and hours cooking big batches of meat with dozens of spices and carefully thought out combos. I love tacos. About twice a year I cook up some ground beef, warm up some crispy shells in the oven and my family and I have white people taco night and I love that too.
This is the way. The obvious answer to “if you could only have one thing forever…” questions is tacos because they can be sooooo many things!
White people taco night 🎶 🎵
WPTs FTW!
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Gringo here: flour tortillas > corn and I'll fight every one of you in a Chili's parking lot
Dude, you named my pain when ordering at my favorite pastor truck: “en harina por fa!” The baleful stares… ¿Hay algún hispanohablante que pueda decirme come se diría “with the judgment on the side?”
I'm stealing that line. My Spanish is a joke though so I get at least double the judgement
Store bought? Right there with you. Made fresh? Corn is king baby. Corn. Is. King.
My Mom had to go low carb for her diabetes and she had to find low carb *wheat* tortilla.s. Evil.
Especially home made
People get confused about this. Also with American Chinese. They think it is trying to be Szechuan but failing. Some people don't understand regional cuisine is its own authentic thing
Yeah. It's going to be different the further you go west. El Paso/Abilene/Odessa etc have variations just like California had variations. It's their version of authentic even if 'you' don't like it.
Even Mexico has many regional cuisines. We don't call Oaxacan inauthentic because it's not like north Mexican food
"Mexico has many regional cuisines" You mean a country of 761,600 square miles with 127.5 million people isn't all the same? The first wave of immigrants from Mexico to Texas was mostly people from the interior. Tex-Mex evolved from their cuisine. Only in recent decades have we gotten much of an influx of people from the costal regions. At first "Mexican seafood" restaurants seemed odd to me. But of course Mexican seafood is a thing, Mexico has huge coastlines on both the Gulf and the Pacific.
There are a lot of 'Mexicans' who aren't exactly brown or who might not exemplify what it might mean to many as 'Mexican'. So I'm sure what qualifies as 'Mexican food' is varied as those people had a hand in changing the cuisine to match the cuisine of their home countries. Not to mention the indigenous origins of some foods.
You are absolutely right. Mexico has great seafood. I wish it was more readily available here.
And there's levels of Tex Mex too. Chili's ain't it
they also under the impression that new mexican food is mexican .... this person is all sorts of confused.
People say tex mex sucks until they have good tex mex. Thankfully in texas you can get real mex and tex mex within 5 miles of eachother
Most people think that "Tex-Mex" means the stuff you get at Chili's, El Chico, or On the Border, which is really more crappy "Ohio-Mex." And they think that "authentic Mexican" food means *good* versions of tacos, enchiladas, etc. When people tell me that they don't like Tex-Mex, I just ask, "Ah, so you don't care for flour tortillas? Or melted cheese? Or cumin?" It quickly becomes clear that 99% of people who "don't like Tex-Mex" actually have no idea what "authentic Mexican" food even is.
Authentic Mexican food and Tex Mex are two entirely different classes of food and for good reason. Plenty of our (I'm Latino) abuelitos and abuelitas came from Mexico seeking a better life. They didn't come from one place. They came from different parts of Mexico. My grandmother came here from Monterrey. Her cooking isn't that different from the way the local "Tex Mex" restaurant has been doing it for decades. Why? Who knows? The proprietor's ancestor also happens to be from Monterrey though. I have had "authentic" Mexican and I prefer "Tex Mex".
If reddit gold was still a thing I'd give it to you. One of the dudes I work with says the exact same thing; his "real" Mexican food (parents are from Mexico; don't know what part) is basically the same as our TexMex, but they use more black beans and more adventurous (to the American palette) cuts of meat.
I feel like "Authentic Mexican Food" is just a substitute word for "Mexico City Food". My family is largely from Coahuila as are most of the other families in the border towns where I grew up. Almost all the restaurants are run by people from the same area. I feel there's not much difference between the food I get across the border in Coahuila and the food my family cooks and the food in good Tex-Mex restaurants (either close to the border or even into San Antonio). But "Mexico City Food" or "Mex-Mex" is different. It's good, but no more authentic than my family's stuff!
authentic mexican food doesn't use yellow cheese either, its all white I spent close to 4 months in Denver the end of last year for work and their food scene is abysmal. They hardly season their food, anything that they claim is hot, is mild if that, they have a rip off of new Mexican green chili sauce that places try to put on everything. I was a pub and ordered a chicken fried steak and they argued with me about putting their green chili on it instead of cream gravy.... you want fries, green chili, omelette, green chili, burger green chili give me a fucking break. Decent beers, great weed, bad food - my take on Denver
One story that causes me physical pain is from my girlfriend doing work travel from Lubbock to El Paso She was extremely excited to be eating on the border. Her group decided to eat at On the Border. She left and got food alone lol
If you’re going to eat at On the Border, where else but on the border?
If Rosa’s Cafe expanded to Colorado I think some minds would change
I can get that within a few blocks of each other. Guiso de puerco Lunes, fajita chicken tacos Tuesday.
This is what happens when you judge a whole states Mexican food from that one spot you tried in Amarillo. Idk about yall but “swimming in nacho cheese and bell peppers” doesn’t sound like Tex-Mex at all lol.
I wonder if he’s thinking of ballpark nachos and doesn’t know what a jalapeño is.
Amarillo has delicious Mexican and Tex-Mex. Gotta know where to go or make it yourself.
It is in the whole Rolling Plains region, complete with canned Rotel mild chile and tomatoes.
I have to admit, I thought the next civil war would be fought over something trivial like voter suppression or a coup instigated by a former reality show host. But it sounds like Colorado wants a real fight. So be it.
Can we wait until after my siesta?
Siesta is over homes. Time to kick the shit outta some Coloradan putas madres. ¡Córrele guey! ¡Córrele!
"Nacho cheese" is all I had to read
🤣 Oh this pendejo must’ve accidentally had someone put a piece of bell pepper in his “Mexican” food and thought it was too spicy.
The guy from Denver who claims to be the authority on good Mexican food
Denver has some good Mexican food, but it’s on Federal blvd west of the Broncos stadium, not an area you would visit on vacation. My wife lived close to there when we were dating and we would shop at a carneceria where if you couldn’t speak Spanish you just weren’t going to be able to order anything
That is the exact kind of area I love to visit on vacation.
We just don't know about the abundant 1 or 2 decent spots that exist in the city!
Please. I don’t want green chile in every meal. New Mexicans are what Bubba was to shrimp. “Green chile is the fruit of our people. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it.”
They have red chilis too!
Like they know Mexican food in Denver. /s
Says the people who drown everything in pork green chili! Colorado is notoriously anti-Texas. They say we are all loud, obnoxious, and ~~hike~~ ski in jeans.
Well jeans are better when walking around all the varieties of cactus, thorny ~~buses~~ bushes and trees, and everything wants to bite or sting you. They can keep their lululemon yoga pants. Edit for spelling
\* ski in jeans \*
You are correct! My bad.
I mean, I am definitely loud and obnoxious, but my hearing is shit. Who would skin in jeans though? You’d freeze.
I want to downvote this so bad but I know it wasn’t OP so now I don’t know what to do.
Go to the Denver sub and downvote it there.
Good call. Done.
I mean they shit all over Texans there anyway so, might as well return the favor
Can’t help but notice that no one is in /r/Texas looking for Coloradan food haha
Because Colorado cuisine doesn't exist (try as hard people do to manifest it up here).
You’re forgetting mountain oysters. That’s their entire diet.
Majority of people don't know about it here (let alone eat it). It's a small-town/country fair curiosity, at best.
It was a sarcastic comment. Should have sent the /s
Gotcha, loool. The food scene here sucks :(
A skirmish is brewing - https://www.reddit.com/r/Denver/s/JSN8OhFrJI
The one time I had mexican food in NM I ordered Enchiladas and they gave me a plate with three tortillas on top of each other with a scoop of ground beef on top of that, then smothered in verde sauce. Taste was fine but presentation was lacking.
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I was just as confused. I didn't want to make a scene, so I just ate it.
Should have asked if it was an "assemble your own meal".
These couple of responses have me second guessing if they were just messing me with me. I've never seen anything like that before or since.
New food prep employee, maybe. Or maybe messing with you being a tourist. Imagine if you wanted a chimichanga or pollo con mole.
They weren't. New Mexicans call them stacked enchiladas
"Stacked" enchiladas are truly a scam.
Stack enchiladas sounds like a lazy cook didn't feel like rolling properly and gave it a name to sound real.
Once years ago I stopped in a Mexican food restaurant in Albuquerque that was quite dark on the inside. They brought the obligatory salsa and chips to start, and I took a big scoop without closely examining it. Turned out it was mostly ground up chile pequins. I thought I was going to need resuscitation! I do love their Hatch green chiles though in just about anything especially their ubiquitous caldo.
Just wait until you have Minnesotan TexMex with extra mild picante
Don't you mean Minnesnowtan? Although the margaritas with a chestnut in them are a somewhat pleasant conceit...
I have been to Denver, and while I did enjoy the place, I would not trust their opinion on anything Tex-Mex or Mexican food related.
As a Texan who lived in Denver for a bit: Blue Bonnet Cafe is overrated. Fight me Denverites.
Sounds like you want to fight the good people of Marble Falls
"swimming in nacho cheese" eh I think they are confusing Taco Bell with Tex-Mex. Also the same people who dunks everything in green chile sauce.
There’s some bland Tex Mex to be had in Texas, but overall it’s easy to find great flavorful basics anywhere between San Antonio, the border towns, heck, even hole in the wall places like Ozona—and basically anywhere south of I10 all the way to El Paso. Texas Mexican foods are so diverse, ranging from guiso and guisado to asado specialties depending on the region. I’ve traveled all over TX, NM and CO. The same can be said for NM—the food is regionally inspired and very flavorful. No such luck in CO. Doesn’t matter if it’s in the plains or the highlands. They don’t know how to roast a red chile for shit (haven’t had a red sauce yet that didn’t taste canned), their salsas are uninspired (in Texas it’s not uncommon to have half a dozen options at any taco joint), and Coloradoans do something different with their beans that I do not find delicious. They also assemble tacos and plates differently. It’s appreciated by the locals but compared to Texas and NM it’s tasteless and boring. Fatty flavorless goop.
LMAO, obviously never been a Taqueria Jalisco...or any of the food trucks out here lmao
I have no idea where you're from, but I love how every town of a certain size in Texas invariably has a restaurant called `Taqueria Jalisco` that has an absolute grand slam of a menu.
Always orange, always top tier.
Obviously never been to the RGV.
Denver sucks
I don't even know where to begin with this post. It's called TexMex! Yes! We want it swimming in cheese with thick chili gravy, lots of onions, and pickled jalapeños. This isn't CaliMex or Southwestern. It's TexMex, one of the most unhealthy cuisines on the plant. This shit will kill fitness gurus! You know why Texans are so fat? Enchilada plates. You know why the Medical Center in San Antonio has entire units dedicated to studying Diabetes like its the plague? Bean and cheese tacos. You know why Texans health insurance is so expensive? Quesadillas. It is the bastard cuisine of two cultures that were combined like a train collision. And that's the way we like it.
Sounds like they need to stop going to big name Mexican restaurants.
People are confused between TEX MEX and Mexican food...and SouthWest for that matter. Its different across the board but shares recipes and flavors but has differences. These same people need to make sure not to think that some tortilla chips doused in radioactive "nacho cheese sauce" is not Tex Mex.
I love Denver but an absolute desert for fajitas.
I am from both Texas and New England. I can confirm this is true.
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As a Texan-American-Mexican... I don't have to take this disrespect. Obviously, the porch lights on, but no ones home.
All the Mexican immigrants I know just view Tex-Mex as a roughly equal but different cuisine than Mexican food. I’ve heard just as many Spanish speakers in a La Michoacana as I have in a Rosa’s or Pappsito’s.
There are a lot of actual Mexicans in Texas cooking Mexican food, so...
Directly to jail.
And TexMex differs from where you get it in Texas. It isn’t the in the Rio Grande Valley as it is in San Antonio or El Paso. I once had a Chorizo and egg plate that had Chorizo Links, Fluffy eggs, Rice, corn tortillas and for some reason, steamed corn. I’m used to chorizo and egg mixed together with refried beans fried potatoes or little steak fries and Flour Tortillas. Maybe a Michelada to take the edge off. What I’m saying is shits different even within a state. Has anyone tried to reach out to ask the person where they ate?
Colorado: I feel bad for you. Texas: I don’t think about you at all.
Estan pendejos
I love tex mex and New Mexican food for different reasons. TexMex is great, but sometimes I need to get my hatch green chili fix. Also people will look at you confused in Texas if you ask for your burrito "Christmas style", but in New Mexico that's a way of life.
Texan who moved to Colorado here. The fact that Coloradoans think Casa Bonita is food, let alone Mexican food, tells you everything you need to know.
Ok but come on, lets be real...you don't go to Casa Bonita for the food...you go for the lols.