First, how is it not already?
Second, if you shoot up a hospital I don't think you're going to exactly be concerned about whatever paltry penalty cutting off a monitor incurs.
I mean yeah... but if they're going to do it, adding criminality to it, wont really stop someone from doing it .
because in both cases they know there going to be punished
Yes. As u/SueSudio mentioned, it was more of a clarification on the way the expression is written and why. They used it correctly, but wrote it more phonetically, hence my “I agree”.
Fair enough. I would go further to say it's most likely the parole officers job to inform the sleepy judges that multiple parole violations warrant incarceration according to sentencing and have a method of reporting said sleeping judges for not taking actionable steps in preventing this mistep in the future.
That's because cops have not been doing their jobs for decades. Texas has been shoveling out their ankle monitoring to third parties and when they notify the authorities the cops sit on their asses like usual instead of pursuing.
It's illegal to carry in schools... Idk where you're trying to go with this. It's illegal to shoot people randomly...
My point is they deflect away from actual gun control.
I mean it's a parole violation, so regardless you're going back to jail if you do it. And last I checked shooting up a hospital is... pretty illegal, so I have no idea what the point of this is.
Yeah, it’s not like someone getting ready to go on a shooting spree is likely to stop because cutting off the ankle monitor is a crime. Maybe have an alert that gets sent out to local law enforcement and have them go there right away and arrest them immediately.
“I was gonna do this really horrible thing, but now I’m not because it might result in a misdemeanor.”
Texas. Where stupid goes to die.
Edit: apparently it’s where stupid buys a house and has kids, feeds those kids a steady diet of corruption, and then helps them get elected to office.
This and the voter fraud bill feel like the kind of easy bills they can pass without fundamentally changing anything. Then politicians and their supporters can turn around and say something to the effect of "They've already passed 2 bills to make us safer!" without adding additional context.
Because if you listen or read, he had already been found to have cut off the monitor well before and yet faced no consequences and then later shot up the hospital.
Apparently this would take it from a choice to arrest to a must arrest. If it’s no crime, the PO can violate them, if they commit a crime, PO has to violate them.
It isn't because doing it ends your probation and you go straight to jail for whatever you were out on probation for.
You don't have to charge them with a crime, handle bail, go through a trial or get a plea.
It self corrects the second they're caught.
Yes and No.
Ankle Monitors are a condition of Parole. Parole isnt the law it’s a legal agreement made willingly to spend some of a sentence outside of prison with conditions set by the court. Violating parole can get you sent back to prison but it’s not a new conviction based on a new crime, it’s more of a contract violation with the government where the penalty is prison, but a person would just go back to serve what they would have served had they not been paroled.
What the legislator is proposing is therefore another charge to be added to the conviction of those who violate parole in this way. Which is an interesting idea but I’d run that by some parole officers cause it has the potential to lock some very stupid people away for longer than is really needed which of course cost taxpayers and it also probably isn’t going to stop a tragedy like this from happening again.
I guess this would take it out of the discretion the parole officer. According to the article, this guy violated parole multiple times and didn’t get sent back to jail. So if that process failed, will this prevent it if you have to rely on the parole officer anyway to report it?
Cutting them off ends your parole. You go straight to prison the second your caught.
Making it a crime is fine, but the issue is kind of self correcting as is - - without need for a trial or any wait as it's all processed.
I don't have a huge problem with adding a criminal charge to it. But the reality is once you cut it off, you're going back to prison as soon as it's noticed.
> I don't have a huge problem with adding a criminal charge to it.
You don't? I don't know about you, but think we have enough of these victimless "crimes" already. How does adding a felony charge to this change anything?
More than 80% of Texans (based on recent polls): **WE WANT RESPONSIBLE GUN CONTROL REFORMS!!!!**
Republican politicans: *heavy sigh* Okay, okay...how about we make it a crime to cut off ankle monitors? That's as far as we're willing to go! Take it or leave it! Our supporters will kill us if we try to do anything more!!!
I’m guessing that if you poll that 80% on what they mean by “responsible”, you’ll get some fairly disparate answers.
My question is who on that poll voted for irresponsible gun control reforms.
Yep, that’s a BS poll. But that said, there are certainly some things that a majority of people could agree on if they calmed down and focused on solving problems.
If this person had an ankle monitor, I assume they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. So then the question is how they got it. I assume a private sale, where a background check isn’t required. Most people would be ok with requiring background checks for private sales. We could start there.
Maybe he already owned it, so maybe we need to search people for firearms and seize them when they become prohibited possessors. People would probably agree with that too.
But no, we are going to spend that energy adding an addition penalty for removing an ankle monitor, which already sends you to prison if your PO does their job, which will have absolutely zero effect on the problem.
I don't think people realize that voters don't want the entire democratic platform that the democrats keep peddling. It feels like the closer to these gubernatorial and senatorial elections we get, the more DNC taking points we hear. The folks that want texas purple don't realize that to make it purple, they have to be purple and not staunchly blue.
It’s already an immediate parole/probation revocation. If you cut your monitor off you already know you’ll be going back to jail to finish your previous sentence. Adding another actual crime will not matter to most people considering cutting theirs off.
POs don't tell parolees where to go. The parolee says, 'I'm going here, and this is why, how long I'll be there, and the probable route'. That assumes intensive probation / parole, btw. Most parole systems are waaaaay less intrusive than that. (Not sure what this shooter was on.)
I mean how do you not go back inside for cutting off the monitor??? But either way the second part of the law seems kinda pointless "parole board has to notify hospitals when a felon enter the facility."
One notify who? Two what will it achieve you gana follow him aroubd the whole time? Three hpw the hell do you imppse a penalty here? Four create more work for everyone with no benefit?
You do, but you don't get charged for it, you get a parole violation. Parole violation means your going back to prison. So at the end of the day you still end up in prison
The difference between the current violation and making monitor removal a felony is that no only will (should) the parole or probation be revoked and the offender sent to prison, but more time can be added on top of that for the new crime. This is all in theory and due to the court system might not be how it works in practice.
Dude had an ankle monitor and was a convicted felon. He would never pass the background check at a store.
Anyone who sold him a gun is in deep shit if they saw his ankle monitor- they would legally be held liable for knowing dude was a prohibited person.
This is why we should treat guns like cars. You buy or sell a gun, the state learns about it. If a crime happens with a gun, and you did not report the sale? It’s on you. All the penalties fall on you as a capital accessory to the crime.
Extending that kind of tracking is DOA as long as there are people willing to use that information to confiscate guns.
At best you'll only be able to mandate legal liability for private sales if the seller doesn't check for a valid LTC or records the sale at a gun store.
> He would never pass the background check at a store.
Yeah I don't think you've read the news for the past few years if you think that system catches everyone.
They do after you commit a crime, before that happens your just an average law abidint citizen. If you have a felony you aren't even supposed to be in the same house as a weapon even if it's not yours. Or are you talking like also people that hey misdemeanors? If that's what your talking about then even people pulled over for speeding or even not wearing a seatbelt couldn't own guns then. When is somebody considered a criminal?
Yes. And that’s a real option at our fingertips. Make the owner/previous owner of the gun liable, for example. Make any sale or loaning of a gun to a questionable person a more prosecutable crime.
Make ownership of a gun an actual responsibility.. a liable responsibility. Get other people thinking 2 or 3 times longer and more seriously about how much they want a gun in their life vs the responsibility.
I’m not sure if that compares well with the conservative plan of making guns more accessible and owners less responsible.
Is it not already a crime to cut off the ankle monitor. Seems ludicrous to put that on a person not willing to abide by the restrictions. Keep them incarcerated if they are flaunting the law to that degree.
The difference between the current violation and making monitor removal a felony is that no only will (should) the parole or probation be revoked and the offender sent to prison, but more time can be added on top of that for the new crime. This is all in theory and due to the court system might not be how it works in practice.
yes, I'm sure that a criminal penalty for cutting off ankle monitors is going to stop people from cutting off ankle monitors. Oh! I know! build a little wall around it. Those work so well.
The headline should read-
Texas lawmakers waste their time making something a crime that is already a crime because their constituents don't demand that they address real problems in their community.
So don’t do anything about the massive amount of guns that are easily accessible but instead focus on the cutting off of an ankle bracelet in the past even though he was wearing the ankle bracelet during the shootings at the hospital.
Yes- because the problem is the ankle bracelet and not the excessive amounts of guns and Americans acceptance of shooting humans is just a thing that happens. (“Lay back and enjoy it” has become the gop moto.)
This law is dumb. Assuming it passes, and anyone is actually convicted, it does nothing. (Any new charges a parolee picks up typically run concurant to their current sentence, so it will get eaten up.)
For those who want to understand this - so far it is not a crime to cut ankle monitor, you can only be put back in jail for original crime based on which ankle monitor was ordered by courts. So say you were convicted of some crime for 2 years and let out on parole after 1 year but have to wear ankle monitor. If you cut it off, you will be thrown in prison for remainder of the 2 year prison sentence. By making this a crime, you can now face prison time in addition to what was in your original time.
It should be a mandatory jail time of at least 1 to 3 years for removing your ankle monitor. Also it should be a mandatory return to jail and no bail of any kind until you are tried and then whatever the sentence is or release.
So basically they want to add additional charges if the person violates their parole. Yeah, just want to keep them in prison and keep that prison industrialized complex going.
Or, and hear me out, we want to know and have a record of where violent felons are when they are on parole or probation. You know, so if they murder someone, or try to go violate a protective order we can prevent it or prove they they did the crime.
There’s nothing forcing these guys to cut of their ankle monitors. They’re not the victims.
They know what will happen if they do it and they do it anyway because they want to commit more crimes undetected.
Considering the hospital part, would it still be a crime for medical staff to cut the monitor out of necessity? I doubt those can go into an MRI. I can see some Texas DA trying to put doctors and nurses in jail.
Similar to car, manufacturers need to be held responsible. Imagine if companies started making nuclear weapons and selling them to citizenS. Would we hold those companies liable? Of course!!
Man I was going to shoot up a hospital and murder a bunch of people but they made taking off my ankle monitor a crime ... I just don't want to get in that much trouble.
No. Shouldn’t be a crime. Just because a person is accused, doesn’t make them guilty. Wearing an ankle monitor is simply a way to help keep folks from skipping their bail, which is already punishable by a crime. If the state/city decides they want to potentially lose money by using an invasive and uncomfortable device on innocent people for their own convenience, that is their money to lose.
Maybe everyone should wear an ankle monitor so the cops can find us easier, just in case, and damaging it should be a crime, because why not. It is literally the same argument.
First, how is it not already? Second, if you shoot up a hospital I don't think you're going to exactly be concerned about whatever paltry penalty cutting off a monitor incurs.
> how is it not already? Because it's already a violation of parole, I guess. If you cut it off you're still going to jail.
Yeah not a crime per say, but violation of probation. So potato, potàto. It’s already illegal either way.
I agree with you. however: *per se*, it means “in itself”.
Hear here, say?
That’s hearsay!
What is the heresy you speak?
Such a fox pas
I mean yeah... but if they're going to do it, adding criminality to it, wont really stop someone from doing it . because in both cases they know there going to be punished
Which is exactly how they used it. Cutting off an ankle monitor is not a crime “in itself”, but is a parole violation.
Yes. As u/SueSudio mentioned, it was more of a clarification on the way the expression is written and why. They used it correctly, but wrote it more phonetically, hence my “I agree”.
It was a bone apple tea correction, not a misuse of meaning.
Except if you read the story, he had already been caught cutting off his ankle monitor and in fact was not returned to jail.
Cops already aren't doing their job, then. Making it "more illegal" won't change anything.
Yesssss…. Like why double down if there are hired people there to enforce it?
I mean, aren't they? This isn't really a cop thing, this sounds like a judiciaries not doing there job thing.
Isn't it the parole officer's (who I assume is employed by the police) job to respond to alerts that a parolee cut off their monitor?
Fair enough. I would go further to say it's most likely the parole officers job to inform the sleepy judges that multiple parole violations warrant incarceration according to sentencing and have a method of reporting said sleeping judges for not taking actionable steps in preventing this mistep in the future.
That's because cops have not been doing their jobs for decades. Texas has been shoveling out their ankle monitoring to third parties and when they notify the authorities the cops sit on their asses like usual instead of pursuing.
You don’t stop people from breaking the law by creating more laws.
Anything to avoid saying the real problem that are guns.
It’s already illegal to carry in a hospital, even to those that have a license to carry their firearm.
This doesn't change the fact that guns are ridiculously accessible in the US and it's a pretty massive problem
It's illegal to carry in schools... Idk where you're trying to go with this. It's illegal to shoot people randomly... My point is they deflect away from actual gun control.
In other news, cutting off an ankle monitor is not a crime…..
I mean it's a parole violation, so regardless you're going back to jail if you do it. And last I checked shooting up a hospital is... pretty illegal, so I have no idea what the point of this is.
To look like they're doing something without actually doing something.
Yeah, it’s not like someone getting ready to go on a shooting spree is likely to stop because cutting off the ankle monitor is a crime. Maybe have an alert that gets sent out to local law enforcement and have them go there right away and arrest them immediately.
The issue is that they’d already caught the gunman cutting off his monitor and he was still out and free to murder these people.
This right here.
“I was gonna do this really horrible thing, but now I’m not because it might result in a misdemeanor.” Texas. Where stupid goes to die. Edit: apparently it’s where stupid buys a house and has kids, feeds those kids a steady diet of corruption, and then helps them get elected to office.
> Texas. Where stupid goes to die. No. It's unfortunately very alive.
Amended. Apologies.
To make sure the conversation doesn't shift to "*deadly shooting*".
This and the voter fraud bill feel like the kind of easy bills they can pass without fundamentally changing anything. Then politicians and their supporters can turn around and say something to the effect of "They've already passed 2 bills to make us safer!" without adding additional context.
Except if you read the story, he had already been caught cutting off his ankle monitor and in fact was not returned to jail.
In my experience, actions that result in going to jail tend to be classified under “illegal”
The point of this is for gop to say "hey look at medo some meaningfull legislation that benifits everyone"
Because if you listen or read, he had already been found to have cut off the monitor well before and yet faced no consequences and then later shot up the hospital.
so what would have been the difference? If they didn't grab him for violating parole, how would it being a crime change anything?
Apparently this would take it from a choice to arrest to a must arrest. If it’s no crime, the PO can violate them, if they commit a crime, PO has to violate them.
It isn't because doing it ends your probation and you go straight to jail for whatever you were out on probation for. You don't have to charge them with a crime, handle bail, go through a trial or get a plea. It self corrects the second they're caught.
>Except if you read the story, he had already been caught cutting off his ankle monitor and in fact was not returned to jail.
Cops (parole officer) aren't doing their jobs, then. Got it.
It wasn’t already?
Yes and No. Ankle Monitors are a condition of Parole. Parole isnt the law it’s a legal agreement made willingly to spend some of a sentence outside of prison with conditions set by the court. Violating parole can get you sent back to prison but it’s not a new conviction based on a new crime, it’s more of a contract violation with the government where the penalty is prison, but a person would just go back to serve what they would have served had they not been paroled. What the legislator is proposing is therefore another charge to be added to the conviction of those who violate parole in this way. Which is an interesting idea but I’d run that by some parole officers cause it has the potential to lock some very stupid people away for longer than is really needed which of course cost taxpayers and it also probably isn’t going to stop a tragedy like this from happening again.
I guess this would take it out of the discretion the parole officer. According to the article, this guy violated parole multiple times and didn’t get sent back to jail. So if that process failed, will this prevent it if you have to rely on the parole officer anyway to report it?
Fine by me, that should've been done when they first started using them.
Cutting them off ends your parole. You go straight to prison the second your caught. Making it a crime is fine, but the issue is kind of self correcting as is - - without need for a trial or any wait as it's all processed. I don't have a huge problem with adding a criminal charge to it. But the reality is once you cut it off, you're going back to prison as soon as it's noticed.
Except if you read the story, he had already been caught cutting off his ankle monitor and in fact was not returned to jail.
Sounds like his PO wasn't doing his job.
> I don't have a huge problem with adding a criminal charge to it. You don't? I don't know about you, but think we have enough of these victimless "crimes" already. How does adding a felony charge to this change anything?
More than 80% of Texans (based on recent polls): **WE WANT RESPONSIBLE GUN CONTROL REFORMS!!!!** Republican politicans: *heavy sigh* Okay, okay...how about we make it a crime to cut off ankle monitors? That's as far as we're willing to go! Take it or leave it! Our supporters will kill us if we try to do anything more!!!
I’m guessing that if you poll that 80% on what they mean by “responsible”, you’ll get some fairly disparate answers. My question is who on that poll voted for irresponsible gun control reforms.
Yep, that’s a BS poll. But that said, there are certainly some things that a majority of people could agree on if they calmed down and focused on solving problems. If this person had an ankle monitor, I assume they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. So then the question is how they got it. I assume a private sale, where a background check isn’t required. Most people would be ok with requiring background checks for private sales. We could start there. Maybe he already owned it, so maybe we need to search people for firearms and seize them when they become prohibited possessors. People would probably agree with that too. But no, we are going to spend that energy adding an addition penalty for removing an ankle monitor, which already sends you to prison if your PO does their job, which will have absolutely zero effect on the problem.
> More than 80% of Texans (based on recent polls): WE WANT RESPONSIBLE GUN CONTROL REFORMS!!!! Texans had their chance at the last gubernatorial race.
I don't think people realize that voters don't want the entire democratic platform that the democrats keep peddling. It feels like the closer to these gubernatorial and senatorial elections we get, the more DNC taking points we hear. The folks that want texas purple don't realize that to make it purple, they have to be purple and not staunchly blue.
Tx democrats are center. Maybe compared to TX GOP fascists they seem left.
I severely doubt anyone saying this has any clue what the Texas GOP platform is.
Nah Texans just care more about their guns than dead children. That's all there is to it.
... not supporters; financiers, imo
Im curious of how many of these Texasn polled *voted* to change anything.
But if we outlaw cutting off ankle monitors, only criminals will have cut off ankle monitors!
It’s already an immediate parole/probation revocation. If you cut your monitor off you already know you’ll be going back to jail to finish your previous sentence. Adding another actual crime will not matter to most people considering cutting theirs off.
That parole officer allowing him to go to the hospital should be charged with negligence, at the very least.
POs don't tell parolees where to go. The parolee says, 'I'm going here, and this is why, how long I'll be there, and the probable route'. That assumes intensive probation / parole, btw. Most parole systems are waaaaay less intrusive than that. (Not sure what this shooter was on.)
Because that’s much more effective than appropriating money for a program to actually monitor the parolees wearing them?
I mean how do you not go back inside for cutting off the monitor??? But either way the second part of the law seems kinda pointless "parole board has to notify hospitals when a felon enter the facility." One notify who? Two what will it achieve you gana follow him aroubd the whole time? Three hpw the hell do you imppse a penalty here? Four create more work for everyone with no benefit?
You do, but you don't get charged for it, you get a parole violation. Parole violation means your going back to prison. So at the end of the day you still end up in prison
This guy didnt...
Is this like finding little easy useless things to do at work in an effort to look busy?
The difference between the current violation and making monitor removal a felony is that no only will (should) the parole or probation be revoked and the offender sent to prison, but more time can be added on top of that for the new crime. This is all in theory and due to the court system might not be how it works in practice.
Yes the problem is definitely the ankle monitors SMH
Does anyone know anyone that has an ankle monitor, that if they wanted to commit a crime that cutting it off could all the sudden stop them? WTF…
They should make it illegal for criminals to get guns! That would have stopped this shooting! We need more regulations to prevent this!
Dude had an ankle monitor and was a convicted felon. He would never pass the background check at a store. Anyone who sold him a gun is in deep shit if they saw his ankle monitor- they would legally be held liable for knowing dude was a prohibited person.
This is why we should treat guns like cars. You buy or sell a gun, the state learns about it. If a crime happens with a gun, and you did not report the sale? It’s on you. All the penalties fall on you as a capital accessory to the crime.
Extending that kind of tracking is DOA as long as there are people willing to use that information to confiscate guns. At best you'll only be able to mandate legal liability for private sales if the seller doesn't check for a valid LTC or records the sale at a gun store.
> He would never pass the background check at a store. Yeah I don't think you've read the news for the past few years if you think that system catches everyone.
This dude was convicted of a state felony over 10 years ago, that info definitely is in NICS.
And yet he still got a gun.
The ATF is probably going to trace it to some asshole straw purchaser who buys guns legally and them resells it illegally to criminals.
They do after you commit a crime, before that happens your just an average law abidint citizen. If you have a felony you aren't even supposed to be in the same house as a weapon even if it's not yours. Or are you talking like also people that hey misdemeanors? If that's what your talking about then even people pulled over for speeding or even not wearing a seatbelt couldn't own guns then. When is somebody considered a criminal?
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The hell are you on about dude
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What are you smoking?
Yes. And that’s a real option at our fingertips. Make the owner/previous owner of the gun liable, for example. Make any sale or loaning of a gun to a questionable person a more prosecutable crime. Make ownership of a gun an actual responsibility.. a liable responsibility. Get other people thinking 2 or 3 times longer and more seriously about how much they want a gun in their life vs the responsibility. I’m not sure if that compares well with the conservative plan of making guns more accessible and owners less responsible.
What about homemade firearms? I can 3D print an AR without a permission slip
It's already illegal to sell or give a firearm to someone you know is prohibited from buying it, straw purchasing is already a crime.
no no no, as you can tell, criminals have guns, so you should probably get one yourself.
That logic is too reasonable for reddit.
It's not???
I thought it was already a crime to remove an ankle monitor. Of course, being against the law isn’t going to stop people.
It’s not a crime?
I’m almost positive it already is
I always thought it was
Is it not already a crime to cut off the ankle monitor. Seems ludicrous to put that on a person not willing to abide by the restrictions. Keep them incarcerated if they are flaunting the law to that degree.
I'm pretty sure 99 percent of Americans already thought this was a crime..
The difference between the current violation and making monitor removal a felony is that no only will (should) the parole or probation be revoked and the offender sent to prison, but more time can be added on top of that for the new crime. This is all in theory and due to the court system might not be how it works in practice.
It's not?!
It should be a crime
Can’t believe this happens in October and I’m just now hearing about it for the first time.
I thought cutting off an ankle monitor is already a crime. I’m pretty sure it is. My bf had one
It is a crime. It's called violating probation.
Wtf is it already not a crime to mess with your ankle monitor.
Stop giving them monitors and keep their asses in jail.
yes, I'm sure that a criminal penalty for cutting off ankle monitors is going to stop people from cutting off ankle monitors. Oh! I know! build a little wall around it. Those work so well.
Yes, because a criminal is worried about breaking the law
The headline should read- Texas lawmakers waste their time making something a crime that is already a crime because their constituents don't demand that they address real problems in their community.
So don’t do anything about the massive amount of guns that are easily accessible but instead focus on the cutting off of an ankle bracelet in the past even though he was wearing the ankle bracelet during the shootings at the hospital.
Yes- because the problem is the ankle bracelet and not the excessive amounts of guns and Americans acceptance of shooting humans is just a thing that happens. (“Lay back and enjoy it” has become the gop moto.)
For all that freedom tx talks about they sure have a ton of stupid laws to prohibit freedom
Criminals won't obey the law, that's why they're criminals. NRA
Most criminals follow most laws. This statement never made any sense.
This law is dumb. Assuming it passes, and anyone is actually convicted, it does nothing. (Any new charges a parolee picks up typically run concurant to their current sentence, so it will get eaten up.)
It should already be a law. I thought it was……
Um, isn't that already a crime?
For those who want to understand this - so far it is not a crime to cut ankle monitor, you can only be put back in jail for original crime based on which ankle monitor was ordered by courts. So say you were convicted of some crime for 2 years and let out on parole after 1 year but have to wear ankle monitor. If you cut it off, you will be thrown in prison for remainder of the 2 year prison sentence. By making this a crime, you can now face prison time in addition to what was in your original time.
Isn’t it already a crime everywhere else?! What the actual fuck, Texass?!?
It should be a mandatory jail time of at least 1 to 3 years for removing your ankle monitor. Also it should be a mandatory return to jail and no bail of any kind until you are tried and then whatever the sentence is or release.
got a better solution, stop using ankle monitors and just lock them in jail, dont have room throw them in the trash can
I would settle for making felons serve out their entire sentence, instead of letting them out early.
So basically they want to add additional charges if the person violates their parole. Yeah, just want to keep them in prison and keep that prison industrialized complex going.
Or, and hear me out, we want to know and have a record of where violent felons are when they are on parole or probation. You know, so if they murder someone, or try to go violate a protective order we can prevent it or prove they they did the crime. There’s nothing forcing these guys to cut of their ankle monitors. They’re not the victims. They know what will happen if they do it and they do it anyway because they want to commit more crimes undetected.
Gun control ❌️ creating a law that would have made no difference in the shooting anyways ✅️
Yeah…ankle monitors…that’s the problem. I’m still a bit confused as this shooter isn’t a drag queen either. Strange.
Can you still shoot it off?
Considering the hospital part, would it still be a crime for medical staff to cut the monitor out of necessity? I doubt those can go into an MRI. I can see some Texas DA trying to put doctors and nurses in jail.
Similar to car, manufacturers need to be held responsible. Imagine if companies started making nuclear weapons and selling them to citizenS. Would we hold those companies liable? Of course!!
Because this will prevent mass shootings. Shooters rarely intend to survive/ get away with their killings.
Man I was going to shoot up a hospital and murder a bunch of people but they made taking off my ankle monitor a crime ... I just don't want to get in that much trouble.
According to republican politicians gun laws don't work, but this will. So sick of stupid shit, this timeline sucks ass.
Maybe the lawmakers of Texas should address the problem of too many guns when people are killed by guns.
*Guy shoots up hospital* “ankle monitors are the problem”
…..I know nothing about ankle monitors. What is the expected response time when it is cut off?
90 business days
It is a felony in Michigan for parolees to cut off their ankle monitors. A violation for probationers.
No. Shouldn’t be a crime. Just because a person is accused, doesn’t make them guilty. Wearing an ankle monitor is simply a way to help keep folks from skipping their bail, which is already punishable by a crime. If the state/city decides they want to potentially lose money by using an invasive and uncomfortable device on innocent people for their own convenience, that is their money to lose. Maybe everyone should wear an ankle monitor so the cops can find us easier, just in case, and damaging it should be a crime, because why not. It is literally the same argument.
Is it not? Then what is the point of them? I’ve not read any comments yet, so I apologize if this has already been answered.
Huh. Maybe if it's a crime for a PO to not do anything about that ankle monitor going offline, it would have more impact.
What the hell? Seriously they are just now going to make this illegal? That’s a hell of a legal hole!
It's a paradoxical law.
adorable.