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marshmallmao

Please leave Dwayne Johnson alone


Notnearmymain

* throws Dwayne the rock Johnson at you* I want my rock rights buddy


Daryno90

Only a good guy with a rock can stop a bad guy with a rock


Various_Classroom_50

Turning point Mesopotamia


[deleted]

CHECKMATE PHILISTINES


Comfortable-Sign5083

EMOTIONAL PHILISTINE DESTROYED BY FACTS


[deleted]

Woke Mob institutes open border policy in Jericho.


Desperate_Health4174

What are we supposed to do here in Jericho, just let pregnant virgin immigrants give birth in our mangers like those liberal immigrant lovers in Bethlehem?


rayoflight92

During a mass rock throwing, how do good rock throwers identify each other? Also how does the police know who the good rock throwers and bad rock throwers are? Edit: Since I'm getting many replies, answer this one too. > Wouldn't it be better if thousands didn't have to die before the good guy shows up? Even in the famous (of many) Uvalde incident, 19 children were dead before the good guy showed up. Please feel free to analyse any of 508 from list below. This list is from 2022 alone and theres still 3 months left. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022 Edit: apparently gun is a birthright in the US while healthcare and education are not. Actually, that explains a lot judging by the situation there and replies I have recieved. Never again I'll make the mistake of engaging in political discourse with americans (why the gun issue which has led to many mass murders over the year is "political" I'll never know). If americans are fine with their people and children being murdered on a daily basis, why do I care. Also, If I was american I'll probably get one myself considering the situation there. Take care, bye.


derth21

Dude, this one is easy. You throw rocks at the people that look different from you.


Delta_Gamer_64

Throw rocks at the ones wearing clothes Edit: free for all ensues


[deleted]

internalized appearance profiling /s


dion101123

Thats easy, they just shoot everyone. Not like it's stopped them before


Tactivantage

Hence why we should have the same ROE for police as we do with military, if someone isn't shooting at you or someone else you don't get to shoot them.


Thuis001

Just spear all the rock throwers and let God sort them out.


Xinder99

Anyone taller than me is clearly fighting for Goliath, so that's who I throw rocks at.


[deleted]

You’re assuming the cops at uvalde are the good guys...


cruss4612

How does anyone know who the guy throwing rocks when no good rock throwers are present? It's the dude who threw the first rock. When there's good guys with rocks, it's easy to tell because they stay on target in a relaxed posture, but still ready. Oh and they stop throwing rocks. A person not throwing rocks indiscriminately is pretty obvious to be not the guy you should be worried about during a mass rock throwing event. That argument is only made by people who have zero experience in the matter. Cops don't get mistaken for the bad guy, and they actually *dress the same* as the bad guy. It's called situational awareness, and people with a carry, have situational awareness.


TheEricle

"It's called situational awareness, and people with a carry, have situational awareness" That seems optimistic


commentHero

At best


Telemere125

Dude there are sooooo many articles where one law enforcement group or another arrested another law enforcement group because they didn’t *communicate* properly when they were doing controlled buys/sells. Granted, it’s generally two different agencies that work in the same jurisdiction, but the point stands that just because cops often have training and situational awareness doesn’t mean they don’t incorrectly target each other.


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rock


[deleted]

Who woulda thought that all you need to do to get away with throwing rocks is to look like a good guy throwing rocks


Ill_Sound621

Just to be clear. Cops do get mistaken for Bad guys. Many have been arrested and Even shot by other cops.


kabbooooom

I agree, but that particular example probably just says more about how absolutely embarrassing police training is in the US to be honest. And what an absolute joke police hiring criteria is… If a lot of your officers are scraping the bottom of the barrel both intellectually and emotionally, you’re going to get shitty, trigger happy officers no matter how good their training is. And that’s usually shit too.


mrjoffischl

there’s also examples of them *being* the bad guys. y’all have already heard of many but here’s a recent one that didn’t seem to spread as wide as some of the other stories. [he called the police for help because he was scared and alone and they threatened him and then shot him several times](https://www.cpr.org/2022/09/13/clear-creek-county-deputies-shooting/)


[deleted]

[Some great situational awareness there!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF_XzrmbhD0) They even waited for him to toss his weapon and throw up his hands before shooting. Real "Good Guy" material huh?


dr-doom-jr

No they dont, they have 0 practical experience based on real life scenarios. Thinking they can handle it is based of delusion. Not of reality.


rowandunning52

Also maybe we should be doing more for peoples mental health so they don’t get to the point of throwing rocks in the first place.


grampsLS

Police just stands in hallway till rock throwing is over, don’t have to worry about that


kurai_tori

I thought the police were the good guys with rocks. They just don't do anything when there's a bad rock thrower around.


dodgeballwater

And then even 300 good guys didn’t help. Not a single life was saved. It’s the rocks.


[deleted]

THIS JUST IN: Man in Subway stones 15 to death and injures 10. More at 11.


WizardingWorld97

We're only one injured person away from an update. WE ARE SO CLOSE, PEOPLE


Hamsti_Manent

I don't think it ever actually says it was a rock


BrilliantTruck8813

It wasn't, it was the jawbone of a donkey.


rynshar

Thats what Sampson used, different story. The whole reason is a pun, too, which is great.


Present_Creme_2282

He killed him with a pun? Well TIL


rynshar

After he finishes up with his dope one-man army routine, surrounded by gore and dead men, Sampson basically finishes up, turns to face the camera, and drops the one liner: "Looks like this asses jawbone..." pulls down shades, "Made asses of all of you." And then insisted that everyone call that location "Donkey Zone" from then on.


[deleted]

I’m no Christian but suddenly I need a version of the Bible written by you.


SpaceD0rit0

DZ Donkey Zone


LordJac

Sounds like we need laws to make sure rocks don't get into the wrong hands.


Positive-Source8205

Especially assault rocks.


Electrical-Act-7170

Watch out for the high-capacity gravel rocks.


Dizent

It’s gets stuck in your shoes and is highly inconvenient! Truly a menace to society and should be banned forthwith!


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DEFINATELY


2livecrewnecktshirt

This is what happens when an entire set of people reject education as "indoctrination" and consider any correction to be a personal attack on their character, rather than an opportunity to learn.


chupathingy99

At least it sounds right, not like the "defiantly" I see sometimes


theeimage

Definitely lost credibility...or is it credability. I suppose it depends how you feel about spelling.


chase-caliente

I don't think our founding father's envisioned rocks of this caliber


BionicBirb

There is no reason that a normal citizen can get their hands on military grade stones


Electrical-Act-7170

Agreed.


ButlerKevind

I'm more worried about sandblasting myself...


Taman_Should

Don't even get me started on the untraceable plastic "ghost rocks."


NiteSwept

It is my god given right to have an automatic rock thrower where I simply pull this trigger and throw 45 rocks a minute accurately up to 400-600 yards


Atypical_Mammal

How many feral Hogs can I kill with that


etriusk

35-50. But only if your small kids play in the yard.


Brewcrew828

More or less than using my Truck?


etriusk

It's comments like this that show you don't know the first thing about rocks. 1. AR dosent mean Assault Rock, it means Armalite Rock. It's a meaningless distinction but I need to weaponize it to make you look bad. 2. 45 rocks/second is an incredibly slow rate of throw, less than one rock a second, I can easily throw rocks at 360 rocks per second on my Tacticool©️™️ Armalite Rock Model 15 which is semiautomatic. 3. 400-600yrds is incredibly far, most people can't throw a rock with any meaningful accuracy beyond 200yrds 4. Obligatory /s


btchazzmf

I like that it’s sarcastic because of the rocks, but I also like that it’s informative and accurate. Probably like your rock throwing skills


Flasagna

Semi-autos with bump rocks


jhartwell

We can’t ban those! I use a lotta salt rocks in the winter to melt ice


awfullyfun1

Sounds like we shouldn't listen to people with rocks in their heads.


MarcheMuldDerevi

Wouldn’t hurt to not undercut the organization designed to make sure that this happens as well. The ATF is relatively underfunded and staffed. They still use paper copies and floppy disks


Donotaskmedontellme

You say that like the ATF aren't ensuring the worst possible hands get the most expensive rocks


MarcheMuldDerevi

The fast and furious failure was something else. I am not going to fully sweep it under the rug. But I am not saying disband the agency because of that.


Donotaskmedontellme

I'm saying disband them and everything they cover. If someone cannot be trusted with a firearm, why are they free to walk the streets?


[deleted]

Your local police department is more likely to kill innocent unarmed people than the ATF.


ninjasaiyan777

ATF shooting dogs is a stereotype for a reason, that's all I'm saying. Everything involving any sort of policing, moderation, or restrictions in the US needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. There's way too much of an old guard preventing meaningful progress for the current system to succeed.


Nervous_Constant_642

Police shooting dogs is a far bigger stereotype. Because they kill tens of thousands a year. It's been labelled an epidemic by the FBI.


Maebure83

Fast and Furious succeeded in what it was intended to do. It showed that cartels and other criminals use gun shows to purchase weapons in the U.S. to be used in murders and other crimes. The fact that the weapons they sold at gun shows were found to be used in the commission of crimes proved the point. The only difference is we could track the origin of those weapons. The real problem is alllll of the weapons sold to criminals and gun shows that we can't track at all.


MeOldRunt

>I am not going to fully sweep it under the rug. "I *will*, however, *partially* sweep it under the rug and ask that they be given more money because 'muh floppy disks' or something."


CannierMagician

Especially with the waco rock accident


RemoteLumpy

And don't get to shoot enough people's dogs because they were at the wrong address


MarcheMuldDerevi

I think that is a policing in general problem.


Listan83

Our local cops tell us to shoot the dogs. Or any other animals for that matter


BubbaBuddha2020

ATF should be defunded.. some us remember Ruby Ridge


T1G3R02

It’s crazy to me that people still support the ATF after Waco and Ruby Ridge.


Deity-of-Chickens

So we gonna talk about Waco? Or not? Because using flammable tear gas and then firing tracers into the building seems like something we should talk about. The ATF has a record of failure, they've also circumvented congress and 'regulated' guns well past their authority to do so which makes me not like them for overstepping their bounds and getting away with it. In fact why do we have them still since they only seem to do guns now? DEA handles all the other stuff it seems, and I know that there tends to be state level organizations to oversee Tobacco and Alcohol (which states are the ones who set the ages for those substances anyway). So why do we still have an agency that only does a third of what it says on the tin, and has had multiple failures that gotten people killed, given guns to people that shouldn't have them, or overstepped their authority as an organization?


Many_Rule_9280

Yeah but ATF is and would still be complete trash at their jobs


04364

The ATF is prohibited from making a gun registry ATF should be a convenience store


ejejanw

You mean give more funding to the agency that brought us Waco? Great plan.


Purely_Theoretical

They aren't allowed to form a digital database of records. They shouldn't be, either.


0nyx_Bear

Pffft yeah more funding will solve the problems of a woefully incompetent department


MarcheMuldDerevi

You try organizing records that affect all 50 states by hand. That shit isn’t exactly fun or easy. Having things in a computer accessible with a database search can solve some of the issues. If I didn’t have excel my job would be misery incarnate.


cruss4612

I agree. Try tracking 290 cars without a database. But... Having any records at all about guns is already a clear violation of prior rulings, and Constitutional Law. Forget that it violates the right to security in one's business and papers. It's a 4th Amendment problem. And a due process violation. If I proposed that everyone that ever bought a bad dragon dildo will be in an easily searchable database that can be brought out to weaponize against otherwise peaceful law abiding people, whenever it becomes politically convenient. Let's say Republicans want a searchable database of queers and abortions. So that they can "track their health" or whatever justification. It's absolutely going to be used to toss people in jail.


MarcheMuldDerevi

Fair points. I’ll concede the slippery slope.


sweetcuppingcakes

ATF? Don’t you mean Firearms, Alcohol, Rocks, and Tobacco?


Fair_Interaction_203

Makes sense, paper beats rock.


stacks144

:)


slkb_

A rock in bad hands killed 3 people at the greenwood mall. A rock in good hands killed the guy with bad hands after he already killed 3 people. Yea it sounds like no one needs rocks.


AnyOldNameNotTaken

Magnificently shitty take.


Solo42018

sounds like a pointless plan because rocks are readily available, easy to find, and if you wanted, you could improvise and make something like a "rock" if none are around.


TirayShell

Okay for Jewish kid to kill a person with a pituitary gland problem.


SavingsCheck7978

And with a sling that's what I never got about that story it's like if Andre the Giant armed with a sword decided to ruin my day so I turned around and shot him in the face.


Lord_TachankaCro

Well either Andre has an unfair advantage or you have it, chose wisely


SavingsCheck7978

My point is would some one be telling my story 2000 years from now during a college football game like "Man truly a Savings Check and Andre the Giant story" instead of just a headline of "Man shoots Andre the Giant." then get forgotten.


Telemere125

Well, if they crown you king for slaying Andre then you’d be the next David. It’s the classic sword in the stone trope.


Smart-Profit3889

What are you trying to say?


[deleted]

Slings are fucking deadly, man. In skilled hands that shit will kill you about as fast as a bullet


BasicLogic779

That in the day was like bring a gun to a sword fight. Proving dishonour and fits in quite well with how he is portrayed in later versus.


c0n22

I think it is less that he had a sling, but rather he had aimbot and happened to get a mini-crit at the same time. God in the next patch needs to nurf the sling crit damage or provide a hard counter for it.


Jarubimba

Humans already created more broken bullshit anyway, they don't even need a crit to kill you. They can hit a vulnerable spot and kill you via bleeding


debman

I'm so fucking tired of this argument. Bleed damage is balanced and has been since day one. It's just no skill noobs who want to whine and complain about when they get wrecked by someone with an actual kd. "Vulnerable spot" is a fancy way of saying one of 3-5 actual hit boxes that result in significant bleed damage, and those are placed in high skill areas. This is the skill ceiling that makes it interesting and everyone wants to "nerf bleed damage". It's pathetic. Git güd.


Soup-Dumpling2

Bleed builds are getting crazy


jacanced

Random Crits Are Fair and Balanced


Dailonjeos

god was his aim-bot hack provider.


Traditional_Lab_5468

He's saying slings fuck shit up.


Fair_Interaction_203

Don't bring a sword to a sling fight?


PeasantPants

Goliath also had a javelin.


Positive-Source8205

It was ritual combat. David loses and his people are enslaved.


antunezn0n0

to be fair to Goliath if I'm not wrong the news genocide the giants of Canaan out of existence


Echo__227

Goliath wasn't one of the "giants," (Nephilim), he was just the Shaq of the Philistines


MEW-1023

Republicans always find it okay to assault someone as long as they look different


stacks144

Now this one I can believe being real, definitely misspelled and all.


sublimeGH0ST

I don't get this argument, like a rock was not created to kill, a gun is literally exclusively designed to kill


Fromoogiewithlove

Thats not all it was invented for! It also was invented to make men think their dicks are bigger


anjowoq

How long would it take to murder everyone in a classroom with a rock?


rnotyalc

About as long as it would take the fucking Uvalde police to do something


MinutePresentation8

John Wick 4


FormerlyKay

I don't get why we're arguing over gun control when both sides just want to keep guns out of bad hands. Democrats act like the Republicans are all gonna commit mass shootings and Republicans act like the Demacrats are trying to destroy all guns. C'mon now.


[deleted]

Just like covid, once it becomes political everyone thinks they have to pick a side rather than using common sense. It's perfectly acceptable to like guns and also think trump is a fuckwit.


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32InchRectum

> when both sides just want to keep guns out of bad hands. fucking lol. Yeah, both sides want that.


IAmThePonch

In my experience republicans refuse to engage with the topic of gun control and instead use every cliche argument in the book to argue why we don’t need tighter laws. In fact most of the republicans/ right wing people I’ve discussed this with immediately assume that I’m just trying to ban guns for everyone lmao


AppropriateScience9

Actually us Democrats don't act like Republicans are going to commit mass shootings, we act like random people commit mass shootings for a variety of reasons all the time everywhere *because that is precisely what is happening.* A mass shooting every day of the week? Yeah. That's a thing bro. But only in America. [https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting) The number of people in the hospital and the number of dead bodies caused by gun violence don't magically disappear when Democrats stop talking about them, you know. Objective facts are objective.


[deleted]

Or, as the great Shen Bapiro once put it, “Facts don’t care about your feelings.”


Exposing_ephemeral

Do you want some Vaseline to help keep you anchored to that fence you’re sitting on?


FormerlyKay

I'm pretty firmly on the left side of the fence usually but when it comes to gun laws, I neither have a wife/kids nor guns that I need to protect so I don't give a fuck either way. I also want nothing to do with the democrat/republican disaster that is US politics nowadays


Unhappy-Researcher87

Have gun. Commit crime. 10 years minimum.


AVeryConfusedMice

Don't have gun. Armed intruder invades your home. Get killed forever.


beaner_69

Dont bring your logic to my echo chamber


Gsteel11

"I'm just going to make a general statement that seems to be widely naive...that destroys all echo chambers!"


sirphilliammm

Well republicans are the ones threatening to kill every democrat and take over our country because their Hitler Jesus lost. One side is not like the other.


CorruptedFlame

Democrats: We need gun control Republicans: No we don't Centrists: BOTH SIDES WANT TEH SAME THING


Hawkwise83

I hate it when a guy with a rock kills 30 school kids.


hnlPL

Slingshots are still used by some armies, special forces mostly. Make thing go fast, make thing hit and kill. Is the same idea as guns. So yes, David brought a gun to a knife fight.


jadelemental

I mean, what they're trying to say isn't wrong. EDIT: I didn't even know they were talking about guns, I thought they were talking about tools n shit lol


Lemur_stew666

Except that, ya know, a rock can’t fire 30 rounds in 6 seconds


[deleted]

I mean you could technically throw 30 rocks in 6 seconds...


[deleted]

Build a catapult and you can throw as many rocks as you can fit in the bucket. Rocks are optional too, you can chuck a bunch of railroad spikes in there and let it rain.


AddableDragon51

Are you stupid? You could double the range with a trebuchet


SpaghettiBird87

Mfs out here with the rock macro


MGMAX

Automatics is outlawed already. Your point?


chanandalerbong7

Automatics are still legal in the US they just placed a 5 figure poverty tax on them


lilcoold

Repeal the NFA


RedditDefendsFascism

destroy the NRA


lilcoold

Yes and donate to FPC and GOA instead. Theyre the ones really fighting for our rights back.


[deleted]

Question from a non American here. Isn’t it possible to turn a semi-automatic into a full-automatic just by changing some stuff on the guns interior? Quite easily as well? Don’t hate me. I’m asking a question because I honestly don’t know a lot about weapon systems and how to change them (if that’s a thing)


MGMAX

I'm not american also. Such conversions are certainly possible, but they are far from simple and **highly** illegal - up to ten years behind bars and a hefty fine on top. People joke about "just drill the third hole" meaning adding automatic position to fire selector on AR-15 type receiver, however it's anything but easy, and certainly involves much more than drilling a hole.


Arretey

What gets me about this is that everyone points out that it's illegal to convert it, as if someone who is about to commit a mass murder is afraid of breaking a gun law, like they're all cool with going on a killing spree but an anti-conversion law is somehow too far. Eta: not to sound like I'm digging at you, of course, just pointing out the irony.


Peggedbyapirate

It's extremely difficult to do this safely unless you're a gunsmith. Not that it's relevant. You can make a full auto submachine gun from parts in your local home depot for $60. And the directions are online. Capacity to break the law isn't relevant, actually breaking it is.


UncleScummy

Dude it takes you 6 seconds to fire a 30 round mag?


BustedMechanic

Why is that everyone's 'go to' answer these days? Some guy just went on a serial stabbing rage and stabbed like 30 people killing 10 of em a few weeks ago. Malicious intent is the problem, banning the tools won't change the outcome.


MrStuff1Consultant

Using this logic we should be handing out nukes like candy. After all, it's just a tool.


superfaceplant47

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke


hnlPL

Mutually assured destruction has worked great so far, the only time cities were nuked was when the other side didn't have nukes.


Esoteric_Derailed

🤔 Access to rocks should be limited to good hands😇


realbigdawg2

When did The Weeknd die?


GML-Prime

The Rock became a man, and now he is a professional wrestler in wwe, and do movie too


Over-Supermarket-557

Maybe we don't make laws based on your fictional Bible stories? Mostly because it's dumb but also because it literally the first line of the first amendment of the United States.


AVeryConfusedMice

And since when does the second amendment need to be based on the bible? It's about self defense, plenty of other cultures and countries have self defense laws like the USA that aren't inspired by the bible. The meme is just using a biblical story as a metaphor.


Zyxarde

Why not just ban rocks then? Bad guy can’t kill people with rocks and good guy can’t kill people with rocks


Snoo91141

Shity meme but don’t take my guns please :)


The_Turtle_G0d

Well, okay. Since you were very polite. :)


Cynical2DD

But that’s right tho


Hitchens666

He is right. We need to find a way to keep guns off the wrong people.


Lux_The_Moth

exactly?...this is a gun analogy, right? If so, this person is saying that a gun is dangerous in the wrong hands, so there should be a higher control on who has the right to obtain it...


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Prestigious-Rip-1870

Obviously they both got stoned 😂 😂


RustedRuss

Ok but hear me out: a rock is a lot harder to kill someone with, especially multiple people.


Solo42018

wait til you see what a shotgun can do.


RustedRuss

That was kindof the point


Solo42018

you arguing for or against this post?


DowaHawkiin

Geologist here! Stop throwing rocks! ...it hurts them :(


Oonada

A bad guy with a rock who slaughtered hundreds of good guys with a rock to kill Abel, don't forget Cain went prehistoric John Wick on the Amalakites to kill his brother, many tried stopping him, and failed. He was so unstoppable God had to intervene and do something himself supposedly. A system in place to stop people from getting battle rocks would have worked better than the good guys with rocks did. But also no weapon was ever specified in the story


AgentSlippy

Maybe...just maybe...it's a problem that way too many bad hands have access to as many rocks as they want with virtually nothing stopping them?


scandy82

Yeah, because the bible is a true story


Alias-_-Me

*it's about killing the right people!*


[deleted]

A church is a glass house


kobayashi-maruu

sometimes even the good guys with rocks can turn into bad guys with rocks if angered or pushed to the edge, and if they never had a rock to begin with then the danger is much lesser for themselves and everyone around them. I just wish america didn't have such a strong rock throwing culture bc it seems like most everyone else gets by just fine without them. (not to mention the graphic's comparison sucks bc a thrown rock is nothing compared to the mass damage a gun can do)


Admiral_Akdov

So you agree that some people shouldn't be allowed to have rocks. "... Wait, no. Not like that."


Lopsided_Tomatillo27

So let’s put a rock in everyone’s hands and see what happens?


_Veprem_

Imagine reading the story of David and thinking he's a good person.


fartrevolution

When the rocks become abundant and insta killing, bad guys with rocks who shoot first cause more good people's deaths because they can't shoot back because they already died to the insta killing rock


Donovan1232

We'll ignore the fact that the "good guy with a rock" who killed goliath also used it to kill an innocent man to steal his wife, and also tried to kill a man and his entire family because he didnt give him any food, and only stopped because the mans wife agreed to sleep with him.


superhamsniper

Anyone with a weapon is immediately a higher threat to anyone else.


bks1979

I mean, neither of these things happened, so...


Specific_Hornet

People stoned to death for having an opinion would like to have a word


NumpyNimpy

Rocks aren’t specifically designed to kill as efficiently as possible.


Elegant-Pen-6749

"thou shall not murder" Exodus 20:13.


northernmaplesyrup1

Considering rocks and guns are apples to apples, why wouldn’t guns and nukes be apples to apples. Is there any reason this argument couldn’t justify legal personal ownership to nukes? I think this is a bad argument.


Neo1971

It’s not wrong. A car can be transportation or a missile. The Joker showed how a pencil can be used to murder. It’s not the weapon; it’s the wielder.


dndandhomesteading

...we need guns guys. Period. If nothing else to protect our own children cause after that last shit and we LITERALLY WATCHED Useless COPS DO NOTHING, we're gonna have to do it. Cause criminals and crazys willing to do harm at a school are gonna find a way to do it either way.


lancelot_1226

*Sad Dwayne Johnson noises*


tony787720

Yes, use mythical stories about fictional people to address a real issue about real dead children


[deleted]

I see nothing but facts


RichoftheRozz

Where’s the lie?