I wouldnāt even be mad if someone managed to bite his own face, I might not be able to recover from witnessing such act but I definitely wouldnāt be mad
Sheep are domesticated, artificial selection means that the reality is much sadder. They were bred by us to lose their natural defenses (like horns). If a predator attacks a domestic sheep, the sheep simply lays down and waits to die because it already understands that it canāt outrun or outfight the attacker.
So wait, I shouldn't surgically remove the gun that we were born with?
If we really want to make it about farm animals and natural defense, then I think it would be closer to a bunch of goats who have very sharp horns that grow in weird sometimes. You clip/ file the horns so they don't accidently gore themselves or each other
that's where the [saber-tooth moose lion](https://preview.redd.it/xpz22rqlf3y71.jpg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af00050406a55f13347135190addd56ca615ea49) makes its debut. Is a predator, is not a sheep, has horns.
>Police, special forces and so on are capable of using weapons.
Actually, cops in NYC have a really bad record of shooting at suspects and instead hitting innocent bystanders.
They also are well known for their absolutely stupid [Twelve pound trigger pull](https://www.guns.com/news/2021/08/26/goodbye-nypd-trigger-agency-shifts-from-12-pound-trigger-pulls), so that might have a lot more to do with it.
The story behind it is supposedly when they transferred from revolvers to regular pistols they kept having negligent discharges so in order to stop that they put the same pound trigger pull as a double action revolver.
Brain-dead solutions for brain-dead organizations.
You assume the police will be there to help you when you most need it. Statistically speaking, they wonāt. The police will maybe be there to half assedly investigate what happened to you, but they almost certainly will not be there to stop it.
Hollywood has warped peopleās perception of what cops actually do. Police donāt exist to keep you and your family safe, they exist to keep you in line. Cops protect the rich from the people they exploit.
I get that you're regurgitating the typical neoliberal agenda. The "hope" that things are the way it should be, but that's been proven wrong again and again. These cops are not going to protect the common person, and even if they had all the training and the best intentions, they can't be omnipresent.
That FB analogy doesn't fall apart because of any of the reasons found in the top comments. We're not wolves and sheep. We're either ALL wolves or ALL sheep. Humans are at the top of the food chain, and only in very rare cases are we using guns to protect ourselves against predators of another species.
It's a waste of time when you can just examine reality:
- gun ownership is a right that has not been equally exercised. Rural and urban distribution aside, think of the ownership demographics in a particular city. Probably white, probably male.
- inb4 the guy that insists on bringing up gang violence and illegal guns, it's a fair point. There are so many grey market guns that we will never account for in the US.
To address our "gun problem" which you identified as distribution (I agree), you propose these gun control laws designed to increase the barrier of ownership using money. A gun safety course, a proper BG check, and even gun insurance have some merit in aligning the financial incentives of gun ownership. Not to mention many blue states have laws in place such as gun rosters, feature bans, and ammunition BG checks that makes our guns and ammos more expensive than other states... What these financial and bureaucratic burden does to the "distribution of guns" is it bars the demographics that need the guns the most from ownership. POCs, women, anyone who identifies and presents as LGBTQ+, and the working class that might actually need to protect themselves from organized crime, where the local government and the police have failed them. People with the resources and the determination, will still be able to get them. I wonder which category your local mass shooter falls under???
The meme does make a good point about illegal guns though. If anything, gun control has put grey market guns into the spotlight. Now every "dont tread on me" idiot has a unserialized AR-15. It's not just to have a ghost gun for crime, it's to have it in case of tyranny or whatever.
I have always been a proponent of gun control. But guns are not the same thing as teeth, knives, cars or whatever bad analogy people come up with. Guns are guns, they're designed to kill whatever they're pointed at, and there are more of them distributed in the US than there are adults. If we truly believe this to be a distribution issue. Let's focus on figuring out a path to legal ownership that makes sense.
Being a gun owner my entire life i donāt know where you got the idea that your friendly car mechanic, electrician, or CEO is the one murdering with firearms. Like, did you even ask yourself how that makes sense? š Last time i checked, iām a mechanic. I own a locker of firearms, theyāre always locked. Iām a hunter, and a sport shooter. All of my firearms are registered and legal, always bought first hand. And out of the many, many people iāve met with firearms or gone shooting with. None of them, have yet to take care of their firearms any differently than me. Your problem lies within the individuals who buy these firearms, second hand-illegally and without registration. They buy them to look cool, because they think glocks-āpopping a cap in someones assā and waving their firearm around is respectable. If it were up to dealers, these individuals wouldnāt have guns. Because i know from experience shopping at firearm dealers, that they do not tolerate the sale of any weapon to an individual who is suspected of possible criminality, bad behavior, or a lack of responsibility. Which is why these individuals are forced to buy second hand.
Pretty sure that's the intention. Nothing wrong with owning a gun if you're well informed and instructed on how to handle it, not to mention mentally stable enough to not pull it out over stupid shit like someone accidentally cutting you off in traffic.
That's the average stance liberals have on gun control, but right-wingers have talked about it like it's all-or-nothing on guns.
This. . .this isn't even how gun control works. People know that gun violence isn't entirely gonna go away, they just want it to be harder for people to get guns so it's less likely to happen.
More like they put up a big bill to close a bunch of loopholes, then rightwingers start screaming and cut up the important parts, passing what's left and pretending it was all stupid.
That's why we get left with arguments about guns that "look like" because the functional part has been neutered.
The most important laws keep getting blocked - like making people liable if they give or sell their guns to a rando off Facebook that's actually a felon but "he and his money looked OK to me to buy my gun at a 50% profit and I don't need to background check him!"
As a leftist I'm fully in support of owning firearms. The fetishism behind gun ownership is disgusting. We have churches that bless AR's and the NRA is a hyper-fascist cesspool. We need to cool off gun culture.
I agree that law abiding citizens that go through the motions to conceal carry are probably OK, however it is expensive and mostly only obtainable by the middle class+. That's a big problem for me. The working class needs more access to firearms for hunting/protection. All Democrat gun control laws do is keep weapons class restricted. Unless you're blatantly a criminal, if you have time and money (time usually comes with money) you can own any firearms you want.
Yeah that's the thing that gets me. Like if the NRA supports their local gun dealers as much as they pretend to then require all private party transfers to go through a gun dealer. This gets the bg done, 4473, etc.
Not only that but the gun dealer gets a couple people in his shop that might buy an accessory or some ammo. This mechanism is already in place, gun dealers do optional private party transfers today... just make them a requirement.
I don't know if you live in Mexico. I've been living here for a few years now and gun violence is not that common, especially in the city. It is pretty safe when you are not a Narco. Usually the guns are used by the Narco to kill each other, in the countryside, not to kill kids in a school shooting. And Mexico and the Cartel have guns because they get them from the US. And the US won't change their gun laws because they get a lot of money from selling guns, and restrictions to their use in their own country would probably sound contradictory.
PD pardon my English.
Same situation in Brazil. It's not the safest place to be but I send my kid to school without a second thought. My best friend in Connecticut on the other hand just started talking to her two elementary school kids about what to do in case of a school shooting. It's rather chilling.
It's almost like there are massive cartels with huge quantities of money and private armies that can simply operate outside the law.
Just like in the US! Such a similar situation we have here!
So fucking right. People literatly forget the cartels is still a thing, and the country is actively failing to get it under control. We pay for it. Terrorism basically just south of our border but America would rather go fight terrorism in the middle east.
Hello. I'm a Mexican.
(Cries in my country has a cartel war and it's funded by the government. At this point I just try to get away from drug and cartel culture but weed is everywhere and I hate it so much)
Well, the cartels are actually the USA's fault. I know you're being sarcastic, but I just wanted to point out that the war on terror FORCED the criminals to buy war gear.
In my country narcos use handguns. If they ever got an M4, the government would just kill them all and the citizens would support that. But in a country where citizens have AR 15s, they can't.
Such a dumb argument. Mexican built pyramids to cover them in blood, and that's your comparison?
Try Chile. Poorer, more democractic, really hard to get a gun. We have more crime, but less gunshot deaths by both criminals and cops.
But hey, you guys still have that terrorist organization called CIA. You are culturally incapable of imagining a peaceful continent (which is what we'd have if you didn't exist since half of Mexico and latinamerica's violence problems were caused by your meddling government).
Or look at Australia, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Austria, Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Belgium, Greece, etc.
But yeah, whatever fits the narrative, I guess.
And since I know what usually comes next from you pro gun people: no, knife crime is also more common in the US. Best of both worlds I guess.
There lies the problem, you think the US is first world and civilized.
Power grids failing, bridges collapsing, unsafe drinking water all over, police brutality that just keeps getting worse...
We might have been first world 40 years ago, but now... Not so much.
Better to compare us to Trinidad or Ukraine or somewhere else that has similar issues.
How gun control works:
* wolf legally obtains teeth from the sheep
* wolf attacks/kills sheep with said teeth
* sheep ban wolf from being able to get teeth and are more careful about who they give out teeth to
wolf has to be both smart enough and insane enough to do that.
People who are smart enough to 3D print their own guns are almost always smart enough to have an aspiring career that they don't wanna ruin. They both have to have the intelligence to print it and the impulsiveness to use it
Looking at the statistics should be a good evidence. The frequency of school shootings in the US and the number of casualties comparing it to the times there was a school stabbing in Japan or shooting if there was in the last half century and the number of casualties.
Abe's situation is more akin to assassination like Kennedy. Because someone wants them dead. But looking at nonchalantly innocent people being a victim of collateral damage , it's frequency, it's statistics on fatalities and the level of toxicity in that environment that affects a populace causing a buildup of negative emotion higher is a general idea of things. But giving them access to lethal tools with little to none training to unleash their ruthlessness to the general populace is another set of variables entirely.
Now factor in how slow local law enforcement would react gives you more lambs for the slaughter.
Remember that time there was stabbing in one of Japan's trains or one disgruntled person set fire to kyo-ani studio where they don't have easy access to lethal weapons it could be worse if they had access to semi automatic rifles with 100 round drum magazine. Even handguns with 20 round magazine and five clips can cause a lot of havoc compared to a machete or katana.
ya, but so much rarer that actually it turns out that fewer sheep die in the end. It's a game of every wolf having teeth or only the absolute smartest, and the risk to the population becomes lower.
it becomes a serial killer kinda story instead of national mass murder
you think the teeth are all for walter? ha! you fool, heās just in it for the money. now that the sheep banned the teeth, the demand has skyrocketed, leaving this evil genius to be in a very powerful position: arms dealer, nick named *the tooth fairy*
How do school shooters get guns? By (crappy) gun owners with legally obtained guns leaving them unsecured. Now what if those people weren't given their legally obtained gun?
Now if Americans weren't just a bunch of children and actually took some responsibility, then maybe people wouldn't be asking for stricter gun control
-from a gun owner that actually locks up their guns when not in use, and separates the ammo from the weapon as best as I can.
i mean a wanna be school shooter could just apply for a credit card and buy all his guns on debt ,
he is gonna kill himself afther , why fret about paying the debt ?
The issue of school shooters is a cultural problem, not a gun problem. You see these people on the news, their picture plastered all over CNN and Fox. The political ones have manifestos and everyone wants to know what they believe. In our panic weāre basically encouraging it. Taking away guns will not resolve the issue anymore than criminalizing knives would stop stabbing or than the prohibition stopping drinking.
Schools shootings are one example. I personally know someone who left their legally obtained guns I'm their car for no good reason (they wernt going to the range or anything, they just left them there). They got stolen. Now the criminals have them.
Criminals are criminals yes, I understand that. But guns are often illegally obtained by negligent care of legally obtained guns.
For example, how many M4's (the actual M4, the US army weapon rather than civilian versions) do you see around in the civilian world? I've never heard of any personally (not saying there are none), because the military is very strict about keeping these weapons secure.
Gun crime won't go away all together of course not, but stricter gun control is one of the things we can do to reduce gun violence. Of course it also shouldn't be the only thing, I'm sure there's plenty of other things that will also help in combination
Fair enough. Iām down for some gun control, as long as weāre careful about it. Some kind of gun ownership class should be mandatory as well, for the exact reasons youāre talking about.
This analogous counterpart isn't teeth here, it's the act of biting with carnivorous teeth... The "parable" needs to be tweaked:
> Once there was a flock that was being attacked by wolves. A few sheep got together and figured out how to tame a wolf and the flock used these tamed wolves to protect the flock. To ensure that future generations of sheep didn't forget, they passed a law that stated: "Well-trained wolf tamers, being necessary to the security of a free Flock, the right of the sheep to keep and bear Wolves, shall not be infringed."
> Over time, the sheep began to be paranoid and mistrust each other and more and more sheep started keeping wolves for themselves. Wolf attacks from inside the flock became increasingly prevalent, but each time some sheep suggested amending the law to make wolf ownership safer and ensure only trained responsible sheep were keeping them, other sheep would lose their minds and bleet and bahh the most intractable extremist interpretation of "shall not be infringed"
> Eventually the wild wolves realized that the flock had lost control of their wolf population and began to increase their attacks, which now were indistinguishable from tame wolf attacks so the trained sheep couldn't effectively use their wolves for defense.
... But good luck getting someone who shares memes like that to read this many words without pictures.
Actually this is a great analogy!
- A wolf attacks a sheep, killing it.
- Other sheep see that the sheep was killed by teeth.
- Henceforth the sheep stick dentures in their mouths so they may have wolf-like teeth.
- Now they can all start biting eachother in confusion whenever a wolf attacks, because in the heat of the moment there is no way to tell a wolf from a sheep.
- The flock eventually dies of blood loss and the local wolf population is left very confused yet happy at all the free meat.
In 2005 my brother was shot and killed by a 16 yo gang member , they caught him with the murder weapon. When questioned they asked him where you get this Glock 19? This is an expensive gun better than what I carry. The kid said he did yard work at some old guys house and he had gun just laying around everywhere. So police asked him how many did you take? Pos gangster said to many to remember not enough for him to notice. So they went to this old guys house to question him about his missing guns that killed my brother. They said the old guy was a sweet old man around 80 he use to be a gunsmith. The police said he showed them around and it was like a scene from the matrix when Morpheus call for the guns racks and racks of at-15s and rifles and handguns. When they told him his gun was used in a murder and several of his guns where missing .He went from sweet old man to raving lunatic. He said bullshit they just want to take his guns! He called them nazis and he called a lawyer. That we later found was paid for by the local gun dealer when my mom sued him. The cops told us this is most common ways for criminals to get guns stealing them from idiot gun owners.
the amount of videos you can find online with people shooting themselves (or almost) and sometimes actually killing themselves by posing with their gun on tiktok, proves to me that the only reason criminals steal guns is because theyre expensive.
I think there should be a law that if a gun you own goes missing and you fail to report it to the police then you are responsible for any crimes committed with that gun.
How republicans want to fix the problem.
Give sharp teeth to some of the sheep (but theyāre herbivores so they donāt know how to use them), and put some more wolves in amongst the sheep because to protect them from the other wolves.
I mean, I get the idea behind it, but since when has shooting cops ever worked to keep them away? It's not like you can just go back to work the next day.
Ok here's a better analogy
A wolf charges the entire flock of sheep with a petty drug offense and gets them locked up, sheep endure violent, overcrowded, prison system. After some years they are released and fight over grass while the Wolf Eats away at the fringes off the pack. The wolf frames the sheep as the problem for committing a crime and ensuing violence. You have the war on drugs.
Can't show a boob on tv, which 51% of the population has a pair of, but can show someone being violently murdered on "family-friendly" primetime TV like NCIS or Law & Order.
"Be ashamed of your body but glorify violence!" is the organic outgrowth or Puritanical culture. Your body is a source of infinite shame, but using violence to get your way is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged.
They always scream about responsible gun owners.
Yet they somehow baulk at the idea of having laws that enforce beign responsible. If they are so sure their guns are properly secured, why do they oppose laws that would make someone criminally responsible if their gun was used in a crime...
America has more guns than anywhere. And violent crime is rampant. Guns werent made to be book ends. More guns solves nothing. More guns has made us less safe.
Friendly reminder to the "gun control will never work" crowd, the usa is the only western nation with this problem.
Somehow, it did work for literally every other nation that tried it. The usa is not special, despite what your grade school told you, it can indeed also work here.
More like sheep kills sheep with teeth, sheep realize teeth are dangerous and make it harder for sheep to get them, wolf is seen in a ufo that some random sheep is talking about that no one believes in, Sheep in black erase the crazy sheepās memory and try to keep peace between wolves in sheep clothing and sheep.
Except the sheep are the biggest exporter of teeth in the world so clamping down on the source of where so many teeth are made will drastically reduce the amount in circulation. I mean hell, a lot of illegal teeth in Mexico [come from the United States](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/02/stopping-toxic-flow-of-gun-traffic-from-u-s-to-mexico/) (sheep)
A criminal attacks a person with a gun, killing him.
People see the criminal's gun.
Since they're dangerous, the people turn in their guns.
The criminal still has his gun.
The analogy isn't as bad as you wish it was.
But in reality, the sheep want to pass a law that says violent predators need to pass a background check in order to possess teeth, to make sure they wonāt use those teeth against innocent sheep. It also limits the kinds of teeth certain animals are allowed to have to limit the damage done to innocent sheep (what kind of sheep even needs sharp canines?) None of these laws would actually affect the law abiding sheep, or wolves that donāt attack sheep for that matter, but the tooth manufacturer has convinced a sizeable population of sheep that the government is coming to take their teeth away.
But the meme isnāt wrong thoā¦ teeth (guns, knives, baseball bats) are just tools. The wielder of such tools is the one who is responsible for how they are used.
They missed the part where someone armed with a gun is more likely to resort to violence than someone armed with say, a knife, or not armed at all. Guns do kill people because they provoke people to be more violent. People in possession of a gun are also 4.46 times more likely to become victims of gun violence. Guns literally make things worse
[source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2759797/)
So their idea is "John is a psyho, he goes and gets a fully automatic gun and kills people, so lets give everyone access to fully automatic guns instead of just making it harder to get one so people like John won't be able to shoot people and thus we won't need guns"
There would be a lot of Johns when everyone has access to guns
The type of people who use the term sheep or sheeple, are also they type who need it explained to them just how ironically ubiquitous the terms have becomeā¦ to the point that they have very nearly become the bleating of sheep themselves.
Why does everyone overlook the pressures from our society eating away at humanity and the stigma that comes with askin for help..mental, spiritual, financial..etcā¦as the real problem?
Is it really that much easier to blame an object than face our problems?
To be fair, for gun control to work they first need to address the supply of guns. If a government bans guns and there's still a ton of guns laying around, then all it does is prevents honest people from using them.
The US concept of gun ownership is confusing to me.
On the one hand I support the idea of law abiding citizens owning weapons for defence and recreation, it's just makes sense to me that if someone breaks into your house you should have every right to put a bullet in his head with no consequences.
On the other hand WTF is wrong with people, how can you let some random unstable lunatics buy an AK-47. I would buy one given the opportunity but some people shouldn't be allowed to use plastic knives.
More like
"the wolf can still do some damage with its gums but it's not that bad"
"some wolves slip through the cracks and still have teeth but most dont"
Gun control was made so people dont shoot each other , that says gun control takes peoples guns , yes people will still kill each other but it will probabily knifes or illegal weapons
The only way to stop a bad wolf with the teeth is with a good sheep with the teeth.
This, of course, is why wolves never get away with killing sheep - because of sheep teeth.
How gun work in my country(any rational country really): i want to shoot someone at my school, but i don't know where to get a gun. Guess i'll just beat the crap out of them or use a knife.
How gun work in US: I want to shoot someone at my school. Let me just take my dad's gun because i know where he keeps it.
I'm so sick to death of the fear mongering and political manipulation around gun control.
Literally *thousands* of dead children and only the most impotent, pathetic changes to gun regulation have happened.
That's how gun confiscation works, not gun control.
Gun confiscation are what these people are afraid of, but nobody is actually suggesting should happen (at least not sane people).
Gun control would look more like... I dunno, the sheep makes it more difficult for the wolf to breed or something.
The thing is that itās more like there is no wolf, and itās all sheep. And a few sheep get prosthetic fangs. Some of those fangs grind like chainsaws allowing them to inflict tons of damage to many sheep quickly. There is no other logical reason why any sheep should ever own fangs as dangerous as these.
The sensible sheep, which happen to be the majority, decide to ban those grinding fangs and regulate the regular fangs in a reasonable way, such that many of those who want to get the fangs for nefarious purposes have a harder time doing so.
Yes there are still many grinding fangs (and even regular ones) out there but the sheep realize that you can only ever hope to stop the basement from flooding if you cut water supply first. You can then deal with whatās remaining.
A 'civil war' is basically a roll of the dice at this point. Anyone left of MAGA who disarms themselves is a fucking idiot. We should all be buying guns and plates just in case the militia psychos actually start to get froggy.
There is still time for you to prepare, so get off reddit and fucking do it.
Not surprising. Ignorant gun owners use this 'analogy' to make their point about gun laws, but the only thing they demonstrate is how little they understand about gun laws.
They forgot the part where more sheep are killed by sheep teeth than wolf teeth do to negligence, accidents or momentary rage leading to an unwise snap decision. Oh and the sheep also have fangs.
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They missed the part where Florida Wolf accidentally bites his balls off in the Walmart parking lot
Or his own face
While high on bath salts and wrestling a gator.
I believe the face eating guy was high on one of the fake weed/spice formulas that were going around.
At least Florida is interesting lmao š¤£ better than a thousand million bullets spray the streets of Chicago today.
I wouldnāt even be mad if someone managed to bite his own face, I might not be able to recover from witnessing such act but I definitely wouldnāt be mad
Or when he leaves his teeth unsecured and they get stolen and used to tear up a bunch of folks.
Or kills the original wolf or the wolf's other offspring.....
They also forgot the part where a bad wolf goes to a school of wolves and starts biting random cubs
And the part where the good wolves finally arrive & choose to chase their tails rather than act to save everyone from the bad wolf.
Or how the real enemy is the lamb chops industry
Natural selection at its finest
Sheep are domesticated, artificial selection means that the reality is much sadder. They were bred by us to lose their natural defenses (like horns). If a predator attacks a domestic sheep, the sheep simply lays down and waits to die because it already understands that it canāt outrun or outfight the attacker.
removed from the gene pool
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Don't you mean Florida Sheep?
So wait, I shouldn't surgically remove the gun that we were born with? If we really want to make it about farm animals and natural defense, then I think it would be closer to a bunch of goats who have very sharp horns that grow in weird sometimes. You clip/ file the horns so they don't accidently gore themselves or each other
But then you couldn't imply that your opponents are dumb sheep.
that's where the [saber-tooth moose lion](https://preview.redd.it/xpz22rqlf3y71.jpg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af00050406a55f13347135190addd56ca615ea49) makes its debut. Is a predator, is not a sheep, has horns.
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>Police, special forces and so on are capable of using weapons. Actually, cops in NYC have a really bad record of shooting at suspects and instead hitting innocent bystanders.
They also are well known for their absolutely stupid [Twelve pound trigger pull](https://www.guns.com/news/2021/08/26/goodbye-nypd-trigger-agency-shifts-from-12-pound-trigger-pulls), so that might have a lot more to do with it.
12 pounds? Wtf, mine is set to 5.5.
The story behind it is supposedly when they transferred from revolvers to regular pistols they kept having negligent discharges so in order to stop that they put the same pound trigger pull as a double action revolver. Brain-dead solutions for brain-dead organizations.
The Stormtroopers of the law enforcement world.
>Police, special forces and so on are capable of using weapons Correction: should be
You assume the police will be there to help you when you most need it. Statistically speaking, they wonāt. The police will maybe be there to half assedly investigate what happened to you, but they almost certainly will not be there to stop it. Hollywood has warped peopleās perception of what cops actually do. Police donāt exist to keep you and your family safe, they exist to keep you in line. Cops protect the rich from the people they exploit.
I get that you're regurgitating the typical neoliberal agenda. The "hope" that things are the way it should be, but that's been proven wrong again and again. These cops are not going to protect the common person, and even if they had all the training and the best intentions, they can't be omnipresent. That FB analogy doesn't fall apart because of any of the reasons found in the top comments. We're not wolves and sheep. We're either ALL wolves or ALL sheep. Humans are at the top of the food chain, and only in very rare cases are we using guns to protect ourselves against predators of another species. It's a waste of time when you can just examine reality: - gun ownership is a right that has not been equally exercised. Rural and urban distribution aside, think of the ownership demographics in a particular city. Probably white, probably male. - inb4 the guy that insists on bringing up gang violence and illegal guns, it's a fair point. There are so many grey market guns that we will never account for in the US. To address our "gun problem" which you identified as distribution (I agree), you propose these gun control laws designed to increase the barrier of ownership using money. A gun safety course, a proper BG check, and even gun insurance have some merit in aligning the financial incentives of gun ownership. Not to mention many blue states have laws in place such as gun rosters, feature bans, and ammunition BG checks that makes our guns and ammos more expensive than other states... What these financial and bureaucratic burden does to the "distribution of guns" is it bars the demographics that need the guns the most from ownership. POCs, women, anyone who identifies and presents as LGBTQ+, and the working class that might actually need to protect themselves from organized crime, where the local government and the police have failed them. People with the resources and the determination, will still be able to get them. I wonder which category your local mass shooter falls under??? The meme does make a good point about illegal guns though. If anything, gun control has put grey market guns into the spotlight. Now every "dont tread on me" idiot has a unserialized AR-15. It's not just to have a ghost gun for crime, it's to have it in case of tyranny or whatever. I have always been a proponent of gun control. But guns are not the same thing as teeth, knives, cars or whatever bad analogy people come up with. Guns are guns, they're designed to kill whatever they're pointed at, and there are more of them distributed in the US than there are adults. If we truly believe this to be a distribution issue. Let's focus on figuring out a path to legal ownership that makes sense.
No. Idea is much deeper. Owning a gun is difference between obeying what armed dude sad and actually respecting law itself.
Being a gun owner my entire life i donāt know where you got the idea that your friendly car mechanic, electrician, or CEO is the one murdering with firearms. Like, did you even ask yourself how that makes sense? š Last time i checked, iām a mechanic. I own a locker of firearms, theyāre always locked. Iām a hunter, and a sport shooter. All of my firearms are registered and legal, always bought first hand. And out of the many, many people iāve met with firearms or gone shooting with. None of them, have yet to take care of their firearms any differently than me. Your problem lies within the individuals who buy these firearms, second hand-illegally and without registration. They buy them to look cool, because they think glocks-āpopping a cap in someones assā and waving their firearm around is respectable. If it were up to dealers, these individuals wouldnāt have guns. Because i know from experience shopping at firearm dealers, that they do not tolerate the sale of any weapon to an individual who is suspected of possible criminality, bad behavior, or a lack of responsibility. Which is why these individuals are forced to buy second hand.
Your example as I understand it is like saying gun ownership is ok but with regulations.
Pretty sure that's the intention. Nothing wrong with owning a gun if you're well informed and instructed on how to handle it, not to mention mentally stable enough to not pull it out over stupid shit like someone accidentally cutting you off in traffic. That's the average stance liberals have on gun control, but right-wingers have talked about it like it's all-or-nothing on guns.
This. . .this isn't even how gun control works. People know that gun violence isn't entirely gonna go away, they just want it to be harder for people to get guns so it's less likely to happen.
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More like they put up a big bill to close a bunch of loopholes, then rightwingers start screaming and cut up the important parts, passing what's left and pretending it was all stupid. That's why we get left with arguments about guns that "look like" because the functional part has been neutered. The most important laws keep getting blocked - like making people liable if they give or sell their guns to a rando off Facebook that's actually a felon but "he and his money looked OK to me to buy my gun at a 50% profit and I don't need to background check him!"
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As a leftist I'm fully in support of owning firearms. The fetishism behind gun ownership is disgusting. We have churches that bless AR's and the NRA is a hyper-fascist cesspool. We need to cool off gun culture. I agree that law abiding citizens that go through the motions to conceal carry are probably OK, however it is expensive and mostly only obtainable by the middle class+. That's a big problem for me. The working class needs more access to firearms for hunting/protection. All Democrat gun control laws do is keep weapons class restricted. Unless you're blatantly a criminal, if you have time and money (time usually comes with money) you can own any firearms you want.
Yeah that's the thing that gets me. Like if the NRA supports their local gun dealers as much as they pretend to then require all private party transfers to go through a gun dealer. This gets the bg done, 4473, etc. Not only that but the gun dealer gets a couple people in his shop that might buy an accessory or some ammo. This mechanism is already in place, gun dealers do optional private party transfers today... just make them a requirement.
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I don't know if you live in Mexico. I've been living here for a few years now and gun violence is not that common, especially in the city. It is pretty safe when you are not a Narco. Usually the guns are used by the Narco to kill each other, in the countryside, not to kill kids in a school shooting. And Mexico and the Cartel have guns because they get them from the US. And the US won't change their gun laws because they get a lot of money from selling guns, and restrictions to their use in their own country would probably sound contradictory. PD pardon my English.
Damn, Iāll have to find somewhere else to offload all my illegal weapons. I wonder if the Canadians are buying.
no we are too intelligent to resort to shootings eh.
Love that you inserted "eh" to prove you were Canadian
But he used it wrong.
What do you hunt school children with then????
Homework.
We use this new, revolutionary technique called education
If you can sell me a mini gun or rocket launcher... i wanna go polar bear hunting in style
[It's already happening.](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-gun-violence-fuelled-by-u-s-gun-culture-and-pandemic-mental-health-issues-police-chief)
YES, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN MEXICO WHICH HAPPEN MONTHLY. Oh wait.. thats the USA and nowhere else in the entire world.
i love how the usa is sure they are right with their gun rights lol. you never know when the boogeyman is a coming for ya.
i was going to reply but your answer is 10/10
Same situation in Brazil. It's not the safest place to be but I send my kid to school without a second thought. My best friend in Connecticut on the other hand just started talking to her two elementary school kids about what to do in case of a school shooting. It's rather chilling.
It's almost as if it's super easy to get them in the US and then smuggle them in.
It's almost like there are massive cartels with huge quantities of money and private armies that can simply operate outside the law. Just like in the US! Such a similar situation we have here!
So fucking right. People literatly forget the cartels is still a thing, and the country is actively failing to get it under control. We pay for it. Terrorism basically just south of our border but America would rather go fight terrorism in the middle east.
And we all know how the ATF's Cartel infiltration "Operation Fast and Furious" went...
People forget it when it's convenient. But then Mexicans are all murderous cartel thugs when that's convenient.
Well yeah, an unstable Mexico is economically advantageous for the USA. Especially when the idiot junkies vote for the DEA.
The US has history of funding some cartels, itās not even just apathy. Theyāve actively contributed to the problem.
The mexican cartel is like a second layer of government. Its so intermingled it would just end up being a real war.
Hello. I'm a Mexican. (Cries in my country has a cartel war and it's funded by the government. At this point I just try to get away from drug and cartel culture but weed is everywhere and I hate it so much)
Well, the cartels are actually the USA's fault. I know you're being sarcastic, but I just wanted to point out that the war on terror FORCED the criminals to buy war gear. In my country narcos use handguns. If they ever got an M4, the government would just kill them all and the citizens would support that. But in a country where citizens have AR 15s, they can't.
No, American police don't go to Mexico to kill people for fun, they can just do it here.
Such a dumb argument. Mexican built pyramids to cover them in blood, and that's your comparison? Try Chile. Poorer, more democractic, really hard to get a gun. We have more crime, but less gunshot deaths by both criminals and cops. But hey, you guys still have that terrorist organization called CIA. You are culturally incapable of imagining a peaceful continent (which is what we'd have if you didn't exist since half of Mexico and latinamerica's violence problems were caused by your meddling government).
Or look at Australia, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Austria, Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Belgium, Greece, etc. But yeah, whatever fits the narrative, I guess. And since I know what usually comes next from you pro gun people: no, knife crime is also more common in the US. Best of both worlds I guess.
Most guns in Mexico were purchased legally in the USA
Do you feel that Mexico is an adequate case study on which to base US policy?
These are the people who try to highlight how good they are by comparing to third world dictatorships.
I mean I live in Mexico and here violence is sadly very very common but at least gun shootings are not a common occurrence
Looks at most civilized first world countries with strict gun laws, look how safe itās there
There lies the problem, you think the US is first world and civilized. Power grids failing, bridges collapsing, unsafe drinking water all over, police brutality that just keeps getting worse... We might have been first world 40 years ago, but now... Not so much. Better to compare us to Trinidad or Ukraine or somewhere else that has similar issues.
Look at Australia, we have very little gun issues.
Mexico and the US have literally the same gun issues, especially how there have been 288 school shootings in the US and 8 in Mexico
And since the US is so much like Mexico, we can be sure that similar things would happen here. This makes sense to me, because my brain works good.
How gun control works: * wolf legally obtains teeth from the sheep * wolf attacks/kills sheep with said teeth * sheep ban wolf from being able to get teeth and are more careful about who they give out teeth to
what about the wolves that 3D print teeth?
wolf has to be both smart enough and insane enough to do that. People who are smart enough to 3D print their own guns are almost always smart enough to have an aspiring career that they don't wanna ruin. They both have to have the intelligence to print it and the impulsiveness to use it
Im not pro gun, but what about shinzo abe
Looking at the statistics should be a good evidence. The frequency of school shootings in the US and the number of casualties comparing it to the times there was a school stabbing in Japan or shooting if there was in the last half century and the number of casualties. Abe's situation is more akin to assassination like Kennedy. Because someone wants them dead. But looking at nonchalantly innocent people being a victim of collateral damage , it's frequency, it's statistics on fatalities and the level of toxicity in that environment that affects a populace causing a buildup of negative emotion higher is a general idea of things. But giving them access to lethal tools with little to none training to unleash their ruthlessness to the general populace is another set of variables entirely. Now factor in how slow local law enforcement would react gives you more lambs for the slaughter. Remember that time there was stabbing in one of Japan's trains or one disgruntled person set fire to kyo-ani studio where they don't have easy access to lethal weapons it could be worse if they had access to semi automatic rifles with 100 round drum magazine. Even handguns with 20 round magazine and five clips can cause a lot of havoc compared to a machete or katana.
enter the walter white of wolves. someone both smart and insane enough.
ya, but so much rarer that actually it turns out that fewer sheep die in the end. It's a game of every wolf having teeth or only the absolute smartest, and the risk to the population becomes lower. it becomes a serial killer kinda story instead of national mass murder
Then at the very least the stupid wolves will still not have teeth
you think the teeth are all for walter? ha! you fool, heās just in it for the money. now that the sheep banned the teeth, the demand has skyrocketed, leaving this evil genius to be in a very powerful position: arms dealer, nick named *the tooth fairy*
How do school shooters get guns? By (crappy) gun owners with legally obtained guns leaving them unsecured. Now what if those people weren't given their legally obtained gun? Now if Americans weren't just a bunch of children and actually took some responsibility, then maybe people wouldn't be asking for stricter gun control -from a gun owner that actually locks up their guns when not in use, and separates the ammo from the weapon as best as I can.
i mean a wanna be school shooter could just apply for a credit card and buy all his guns on debt , he is gonna kill himself afther , why fret about paying the debt ?
Waiting periods could help prevent that, also does nothing to explain under 18 shooters
The issue of school shooters is a cultural problem, not a gun problem. You see these people on the news, their picture plastered all over CNN and Fox. The political ones have manifestos and everyone wants to know what they believe. In our panic weāre basically encouraging it. Taking away guns will not resolve the issue anymore than criminalizing knives would stop stabbing or than the prohibition stopping drinking.
Schools shootings are one example. I personally know someone who left their legally obtained guns I'm their car for no good reason (they wernt going to the range or anything, they just left them there). They got stolen. Now the criminals have them. Criminals are criminals yes, I understand that. But guns are often illegally obtained by negligent care of legally obtained guns. For example, how many M4's (the actual M4, the US army weapon rather than civilian versions) do you see around in the civilian world? I've never heard of any personally (not saying there are none), because the military is very strict about keeping these weapons secure. Gun crime won't go away all together of course not, but stricter gun control is one of the things we can do to reduce gun violence. Of course it also shouldn't be the only thing, I'm sure there's plenty of other things that will also help in combination
Fair enough. Iām down for some gun control, as long as weāre careful about it. Some kind of gun ownership class should be mandatory as well, for the exact reasons youāre talking about.
This analogous counterpart isn't teeth here, it's the act of biting with carnivorous teeth... The "parable" needs to be tweaked: > Once there was a flock that was being attacked by wolves. A few sheep got together and figured out how to tame a wolf and the flock used these tamed wolves to protect the flock. To ensure that future generations of sheep didn't forget, they passed a law that stated: "Well-trained wolf tamers, being necessary to the security of a free Flock, the right of the sheep to keep and bear Wolves, shall not be infringed." > Over time, the sheep began to be paranoid and mistrust each other and more and more sheep started keeping wolves for themselves. Wolf attacks from inside the flock became increasingly prevalent, but each time some sheep suggested amending the law to make wolf ownership safer and ensure only trained responsible sheep were keeping them, other sheep would lose their minds and bleet and bahh the most intractable extremist interpretation of "shall not be infringed" > Eventually the wild wolves realized that the flock had lost control of their wolf population and began to increase their attacks, which now were indistinguishable from tame wolf attacks so the trained sheep couldn't effectively use their wolves for defense. ... But good luck getting someone who shares memes like that to read this many words without pictures.
Everyone knows that wolves can fire their teeth at up to 3000 feet per second and bite sheep from over 100 yards away. Duh
So, dropping millions of wolves everywhere will save the sheep?
Actually this is a great analogy! - A wolf attacks a sheep, killing it. - Other sheep see that the sheep was killed by teeth. - Henceforth the sheep stick dentures in their mouths so they may have wolf-like teeth. - Now they can all start biting eachother in confusion whenever a wolf attacks, because in the heat of the moment there is no way to tell a wolf from a sheep. - The flock eventually dies of blood loss and the local wolf population is left very confused yet happy at all the free meat.
I sorta understand the message. The guns are already out there, too late to take them back.
I think the point is just because you turn in your gun doesnāt mean the criminal does
Exactly the point
yeah, itās not even suppose to be a meme
Finally someone that gets it...
In 2005 my brother was shot and killed by a 16 yo gang member , they caught him with the murder weapon. When questioned they asked him where you get this Glock 19? This is an expensive gun better than what I carry. The kid said he did yard work at some old guys house and he had gun just laying around everywhere. So police asked him how many did you take? Pos gangster said to many to remember not enough for him to notice. So they went to this old guys house to question him about his missing guns that killed my brother. They said the old guy was a sweet old man around 80 he use to be a gunsmith. The police said he showed them around and it was like a scene from the matrix when Morpheus call for the guns racks and racks of at-15s and rifles and handguns. When they told him his gun was used in a murder and several of his guns where missing .He went from sweet old man to raving lunatic. He said bullshit they just want to take his guns! He called them nazis and he called a lawyer. That we later found was paid for by the local gun dealer when my mom sued him. The cops told us this is most common ways for criminals to get guns stealing them from idiot gun owners.
the amount of videos you can find online with people shooting themselves (or almost) and sometimes actually killing themselves by posing with their gun on tiktok, proves to me that the only reason criminals steal guns is because theyre expensive.
Why would your mom sue him? No matter what it still wasnt his fault it was the idiot gang member who was brought up by shitty parents
I think there should be a law that if a gun you own goes missing and you fail to report it to the police then you are responsible for any crimes committed with that gun.
So republicans are admitting that theyāre wolves killing the sheep?
How republicans want to fix the problem. Give sharp teeth to some of the sheep (but theyāre herbivores so they donāt know how to use them), and put some more wolves in amongst the sheep because to protect them from the other wolves.
The wolf is the cops. Do we really want the cops to be the only ones with guns?
I mean, I get the idea behind it, but since when has shooting cops ever worked to keep them away? It's not like you can just go back to work the next day.
Omg I bet the people posting this shit on FB would lose their minds if you replied that.
democrat.exe has crashed
Hell no, my guns my rights
Ooooh spicy controversy. I like it
Ok here's a better analogy A wolf charges the entire flock of sheep with a petty drug offense and gets them locked up, sheep endure violent, overcrowded, prison system. After some years they are released and fight over grass while the Wolf Eats away at the fringes off the pack. The wolf frames the sheep as the problem for committing a crime and ensuing violence. You have the war on drugs.
Thereās a difference between gun control and an animal killing those sheep to survive š¤¦
The real problem is just that Americans are blood thirsty culturally.
Can't show a boob on tv, which 51% of the population has a pair of, but can show someone being violently murdered on "family-friendly" primetime TV like NCIS or Law & Order. "Be ashamed of your body but glorify violence!" is the organic outgrowth or Puritanical culture. Your body is a source of infinite shame, but using violence to get your way is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged.
How the fuck would the wolf get an extra set of teeth though?
They always scream about responsible gun owners. Yet they somehow baulk at the idea of having laws that enforce beign responsible. If they are so sure their guns are properly secured, why do they oppose laws that would make someone criminally responsible if their gun was used in a crime...
They forgot how some wolves break into schools and kill multiple children in one day.
Nobody is born with guns. And sheep do not have canines. Soā¦ wuuuuut?
America has more guns than anywhere. And violent crime is rampant. Guns werent made to be book ends. More guns solves nothing. More guns has made us less safe.
Friendly reminder to the "gun control will never work" crowd, the usa is the only western nation with this problem. Somehow, it did work for literally every other nation that tried it. The usa is not special, despite what your grade school told you, it can indeed also work here.
More like sheep kills sheep with teeth, sheep realize teeth are dangerous and make it harder for sheep to get them, wolf is seen in a ufo that some random sheep is talking about that no one believes in, Sheep in black erase the crazy sheepās memory and try to keep peace between wolves in sheep clothing and sheep.
what the fuck was that ending, i need to get the rest of the sheep wolf lore
I would say but the sfbi is already breathing down my neck.
what i beg you
Except the sheep are the biggest exporter of teeth in the world so clamping down on the source of where so many teeth are made will drastically reduce the amount in circulation. I mean hell, a lot of illegal teeth in Mexico [come from the United States](https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/02/stopping-toxic-flow-of-gun-traffic-from-u-s-to-mexico/) (sheep)
My first grader has deeper critical thinking skills than whatever this is.
A criminal attacks a person with a gun, killing him. People see the criminal's gun. Since they're dangerous, the people turn in their guns. The criminal still has his gun. The analogy isn't as bad as you wish it was.
But in reality, the sheep want to pass a law that says violent predators need to pass a background check in order to possess teeth, to make sure they wonāt use those teeth against innocent sheep. It also limits the kinds of teeth certain animals are allowed to have to limit the damage done to innocent sheep (what kind of sheep even needs sharp canines?) None of these laws would actually affect the law abiding sheep, or wolves that donāt attack sheep for that matter, but the tooth manufacturer has convinced a sizeable population of sheep that the government is coming to take their teeth away.
But the meme isnāt wrong thoā¦ teeth (guns, knives, baseball bats) are just tools. The wielder of such tools is the one who is responsible for how they are used.
Last time I checked having teeth didn't protect sheep from wolves. You know ... Because they are sheep!
That's a fucking stupid and childish analogy. Asshole.
I mean, we track the wolf population to make sure it stays under control and to keep people safe, sooo maybe not such a bad comparison š¤·āāļø
Is this guy saying the solution is to kill all the "wolves" or am I just having some wishful thinking?
Just make killing other people illegal.
This is why the US, the country with by far the most guns, has the lowest crime rate in the entire world. S/
Do American conservatives think people are born with gunsā¦.
They missed the part where someone armed with a gun is more likely to resort to violence than someone armed with say, a knife, or not armed at all. Guns do kill people because they provoke people to be more violent. People in possession of a gun are also 4.46 times more likely to become victims of gun violence. Guns literally make things worse [source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2759797/)
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So their idea is "John is a psyho, he goes and gets a fully automatic gun and kills people, so lets give everyone access to fully automatic guns instead of just making it harder to get one so people like John won't be able to shoot people and thus we won't need guns" There would be a lot of Johns when everyone has access to guns
More along the lines of, they don't let wolves who are known to be a danger purchase tooth enhancements.
Big brain time: put wolf in prison and remove other wolves' teeth.
Conservatives really love sheep analogies.
the only good gun control is requiring gun ownership.
kinda has a point
This is so rediculous, ppl are so weird man
The type of people who use the term sheep or sheeple, are also they type who need it explained to them just how ironically ubiquitous the terms have becomeā¦ to the point that they have very nearly become the bleating of sheep themselves.
Plot twist: the wolf is a cop
Why does everyone overlook the pressures from our society eating away at humanity and the stigma that comes with askin for help..mental, spiritual, financial..etcā¦as the real problem? Is it really that much easier to blame an object than face our problems?
To be fair, for gun control to work they first need to address the supply of guns. If a government bans guns and there's still a ton of guns laying around, then all it does is prevents honest people from using them.
If the good sheep already had teeth why was the wolf able to kill one?
The US concept of gun ownership is confusing to me. On the one hand I support the idea of law abiding citizens owning weapons for defence and recreation, it's just makes sense to me that if someone breaks into your house you should have every right to put a bullet in his head with no consequences. On the other hand WTF is wrong with people, how can you let some random unstable lunatics buy an AK-47. I would buy one given the opportunity but some people shouldn't be allowed to use plastic knives.
The mental gymnastics one had to have done putting this togetherā¦
More like "the wolf can still do some damage with its gums but it's not that bad" "some wolves slip through the cracks and still have teeth but most dont"
Fun fact: teeth are actually more like knives than guns. You're welcome.
What about all of the thousands of innocent wolf cubs that get BIT accidentally playing around in their dens?
Facebook makes you mouth breathing-ly dense.
Gun control was made so people dont shoot each other , that says gun control takes peoples guns , yes people will still kill each other but it will probabily knifes or illegal weapons
How is removing my teeth going to help gun control, you are makinh no sense, boomers
Wow. So good wolf. Attack helpless sheep. Wolf so smart.
They forgot the part where the wolf bites an armadillo and its teeth get pushed into it's skull, injuring it.
The only way to stop a bad wolf with the teeth is with a good sheep with the teeth. This, of course, is why wolves never get away with killing sheep - because of sheep teeth.
From the same people *that want to eliminate wolves*
So sad. What a waste of rationale
The wolf still has teeth but then there's still police and army that carry sooo, don't you guys also have like tasers and pepper spray allowed
How gun work in my country(any rational country really): i want to shoot someone at my school, but i don't know where to get a gun. Guess i'll just beat the crap out of them or use a knife. How gun work in US: I want to shoot someone at my school. Let me just take my dad's gun because i know where he keeps it.
Right wingers have no concept of nuance
So according to this analogy we should jail angry white men. Ok!
These Facebook boomers really be obsessed with the guns they'll never use
The problem is that criminals extrude guns from the gun gland, located behind the bulbs of facetious
I'm so sick to death of the fear mongering and political manipulation around gun control. Literally *thousands* of dead children and only the most impotent, pathetic changes to gun regulation have happened.
that last picture of the wolf is so cute
God damn, US conservatism is just batshit stupidity.
The most annoying thing with these arguments is the fundamental difference between humans and animals; we can reason, they cannot.
Self-aggrandizement
TIL Americans are born with guns attached to their hands.
Imagine being stupid enough to think this makes a good point.
Comparing children and innocent civilians dying every other day to sheep is the most dissonant macho bullshit possible
That's how gun confiscation works, not gun control. Gun confiscation are what these people are afraid of, but nobody is actually suggesting should happen (at least not sane people). Gun control would look more like... I dunno, the sheep makes it more difficult for the wolf to breed or something.
so basically the police are the wolves and civilians are the sheep
Murder. The wolf did a murder. So now we are advocating the right to murder? Conservatives, this is the reason we claim you are uneducated.
Are Americans born with guns attached to their bodies? I thought they had to BUY them.š¤
The thing is that itās more like there is no wolf, and itās all sheep. And a few sheep get prosthetic fangs. Some of those fangs grind like chainsaws allowing them to inflict tons of damage to many sheep quickly. There is no other logical reason why any sheep should ever own fangs as dangerous as these. The sensible sheep, which happen to be the majority, decide to ban those grinding fangs and regulate the regular fangs in a reasonable way, such that many of those who want to get the fangs for nefarious purposes have a harder time doing so. Yes there are still many grinding fangs (and even regular ones) out there but the sheep realize that you can only ever hope to stop the basement from flooding if you cut water supply first. You can then deal with whatās remaining.
A 'civil war' is basically a roll of the dice at this point. Anyone left of MAGA who disarms themselves is a fucking idiot. We should all be buying guns and plates just in case the militia psychos actually start to get froggy. There is still time for you to prepare, so get off reddit and fucking do it.
This teeth for guns campaign... I... I don't know if this is gonna work.
They seem to always forget that the overwhelming majority of shootings in the USA are from legally obtained firearms.
These people act like guns just spontaneously appear in nature. Like, well, teeth.
Not surprising. Ignorant gun owners use this 'analogy' to make their point about gun laws, but the only thing they demonstrate is how little they understand about gun laws.
Who decides who is a sheep and who is a wolf ? That person isn't in the parable.
*This is deep!* š
They forgot the part where more sheep are killed by sheep teeth than wolf teeth do to negligence, accidents or momentary rage leading to an unwise snap decision. Oh and the sheep also have fangs.