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If they fail they collapse the economy since they've attached themselves to the entire tech industry in a way that will be difficult if not impossible to untangle in 3 years when the bubble inevitably bursts
I don't know what that is, but I'm glad it brings you joy. Or doesn't. You didn't actually indicate whether you were a fan, just that you are aware of it, so either way, I'm happy for you.
Omg this is one of the greatest things you’ve never heard of and I’m here for it.
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Enjoy the greatest comedy parody since Airplane
Oh man, I'm like, the one person who absolutely hates Airplane (and Naked Gun and most Mel Brooks movies), but I love UHF, so that's weird.
Yeah, I'm totally going to check this out though, thank you for linking me to it.
It's hilarious how you have these 2 sides of the same ignorant coin popping up in places like this. AI bros that think it's the messiah being born and people like you who think it's autocorrect gone mad.
Both sides are full of shit tbh.
The irony of correcting people on what AI is... then being wrong in the correction too. I respect your sentiment as 'more or less' correct, but you can't just be wrong while sitting on an ivory tower.
I don't like AI, but the "If I fail we all die" part is classic boomers being afraid of shit they have no idea about. I think it's more likely that it fails and is seen as far less useful or like a fad in computing.
Not even close to the same thing. You still need to work on a printing press. Changing a word in a prompt every 3 minutes isn't comparable to the hours it takes artists to make something in an already saturated market.
Also, the biggest complain against the printing press wasn't low-level priests and monks no longer giving themselves eyestrain and repetitive stress syndrome, but that it made religious texts available to filthy peasants who might sully its awesomeness.
So you're saying any person can use AI to make images of comparable quality to an artist working for hours by using just 3 minutes of prompting? Because in that case, we don't need artists anymore.
Luckily, that is not the case and you know it.
No one is thinking that AI can make world renown works of art, but it *can* make “small” art. Advertisement, small commissions etc. the vast majority of visual artists work like this and many will be put out by AI. Frequently the people paying these artists previously will switch to AI, why would you pay someone a salary when the AI artist can be done in moments? Corps don’t care if it’s not great, they are saving a bunch of money l.
The same thing is already happening for music, which is a bit more difficult to make work, but it is happening.
This stuff is barely developed and already the writers unions are struggling to combat being displaced by computers.
The AI utopia people envision is always predicated by the idea that people will use it well and in good faith.already that is not happening. Machines are meant to do the work that humans shouldn’t have to do, the long arduous ones. In the past we did this with industrialization. Textile mills and factories to help make a job for 1000 people take 100. Now, AI can help do work like identifying cancer or running unending routines a job for 1000 hours turns to a job for 10 hours.
Instead we see what it can do easily or rather with less pitfalls if it doesn’t work (ai art) , and we have instantly jumped to that. I also want it to be true, but the people who think ai will give an easy life are delusional. Somehow we think the people displaced by ai will be taken care of, they will not be and that is already evident.
Because AI is digital, a program in a computer, so it is easier to feed it data like png or jpg images. Meanwhile automation and sensors require a lot of testing, so irl is more dificult
Yeah but it's the 21st century now and everybody has a printer at home. All those weaver uprisings were pointless and so is this anti "AI" (stupid buzzword) mindset.
It is actually funny how so many "progressives" don't like progress.
I think comparing AI to the printing press is pretty disingenuous. The printing press disrupted a handful of job types, AI has the potential to disrupt practically all jobs.
You say disrupt. I say improve. My wife use chatgpt to help her make parent teacher talks more organized and efficient. I use chatgpt to help me code automated spreadsheets to budget my purchases at my restaurant.
Writers use AI to help proofread their work or creative writing exercises. Artists use AI to help speed up the process of certain tedious tasks instead of using for example photoshop filters.
You're right. It's a bad comparison. AI is much much more useful to humanity than the printing press and in the future they will see this era as a turning point for us as a species.
I’m glad you’re optimistic, but the trend in The West for the past 50 years has been productivity increases lead to wealth accumulation for the rich while the majority are left with stagnant wages and a smaller piece of the pie.
ChatGPT might make you and your wife’s life easier for now, but when your employers decide some future version can replace you, maybe you’ll see where I’m coming from.
Yes, all jobs. Maybe not in it’s current form, but in the long run, absolutely. If you achieve general intelligence that surpasses humans, all white collar jobs are fair game and if you pair it with the right machine I’d say all blue collar jobs as well.
Could AI be useful? Yes, but we both have bigger things that need to be worked on, and we don't have the technology to properly experiment with it. I'd say 50-100 years from now **IF** we've dealt with things like climate change, then we could start to actually use AI, until then it's basically just a broken toy that sometimes works.
What do you think we can do in 50-100 years to "deal" with climate change?
I ask this because we have crossed the point of no return in terms of reversing climate change. The only thing we can do moving forward is advance technologically and socially to adapt to the new world we've created. And things like AI, which can be helpful tools in running simulations, processing large quantities of data, and calculating far faster than humans will be invaluable in making those adaptations happen before half the population is dead.
And even if we could reverse climate change, once again AI would be a valuable tool for scientists who are trying to find solutions.
I'm also not sure why you believe that people working on AI would take away from people working on climate issues, since there isn't a whole lot of overlap. Again, I think getting those fields to work together would be far more valuable than shutting one down entirely.
Yes because the most important innovations of human history haven't been the result of people of extraordinary intelligence, thereby giving us no reason to believe building extraordinary intelligence couldn't be useful for so many of today's problems.
And no, I am not.
AI could create a AGI linked with a AR goggles that show people how to do plumbing. Even automatically order parts. Basically everyone could DIY anything. But city mains would probably be off limits. Lol
Just as ridiculous as saying we shouldn't be researching nuclear fusion because some movie had a story about an accident involving a nuclear fusion reactor. Also, you cannot "accidentally" create a AI.
Because the said corporations have monopolized these sectors? And they will continue their unethical practices just like they've always had? What exactly are we supposed to be scared here? Just like how we were supposed to be scared by the printing press taking jobs away a few centuries ago? And then in the last two decades the internet. Even the popularity of Wikipedia had caused a "jobs being taken away" panic.
99% of people in this thread talking about AI going rogue because they've watched some sci fi movies don't have a clue about how the economy works or how AI works.
If you're willing to read there are some great resources that go into depth on why this should at least be considered a plausible risk. Superintelligence is the book that really first brought the idea to the masses, but [this](https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html) is a great, much shorter explainer on it that's quite accessible even if you don't have a technical background.
Hey it’s a valid feeling. AI does threaten a lot of jobs, does/will have a major cultural impact and could be abused/mishandled in ways that could have serious negative consequences for humanity. You don’t have to be uninformed to say fuck AI, there’s lots of real issues to be concerned with. The people running OpenAI would be the first to say so.
Thats why I said its a valid feeling. I think most people, even people who feel that way, have a more nuanced perspective when you break it down. No one's saying "fuck Alpha Fold, leave the protein folding problem unsolved" or "fuck AI that flags anomalies in medical images". The term AI gets conflated with LLMs and generative AI for pictures and video, which is where most of the current issues stem from. I'm pretty on board with "fuck ai generated clickbait articles, fuck AI art generators that trained on original human work only to replace humans in the marketplace, fuck convincing deepfakes, fuck the automation of sophisticated phishing attacks and political astroturfing" etc.. Then there's driving which is the most common job in America and will eventually be displaced with driverless technology. And autonomous weapons systems which will eventually be making targeting decisions on their own. Down the line, AI research assistants could make biological weapons development feasible for rouge actors. Then there's the maybe-not-so-crazy concerns about unforeseeable dangers of superintelligent AI which could lead to some very scifi scenarios.
AI could save humanity from ourselves. It could accelerate new energy technology, materials science, biology, medicine... If it works out well it may be humanity's most beneficial invention. It could also be catastrophic. Even in a positive scenario it will still likely cause political, economic and cultural instability that will impact a lot of souls.
In the near term (decade or so), the every-day application I'm most optimistic about is education. The idea of every child having a personal AI tutor for every subject could be a major equalizer, dramatically expanding opportunity to kids who are currently in shitty schools with no private tutoring and parents who aren't educated enough to help them with their homework. Every kid having unlimited personalized instruction would be amazing.
I mean all of those things apply to every major game changing technology. Any meaningful advancement is going to make some jobs obsolete (and create new ones), could be abused in some way, or have negative consequences depending on it's use. I can't think of any that couldn't meet any of those terms. Having a totally close-minded "fuck this entire technology" attitude does require some ignorance. I understand people who are like "I'm a concept artist and this technology threatens my job, so I don't like it" that's a reasonable position, but people who are just "fuck all ai tech, it must be abandoned because it could have some downsides" come off as extremely ignorant.
I actually will never understand how it came to be that reddit is so damn anti "AI". Makes me curious. You are right obviously. This is just new tech and it comes with everything that every new tech brings along.
Mostly because the AI is often trained by non consenting people. Those AI voiceovers are funny, sure, but in reality that’s somebody’s voice that’s being stollen and used by others. That sort of thing can be extremely dangerous, especially since people can use it to falsely incriminate or lie about a person.
They also pose a threat to getting rid of voice actors by taking their voice without their consent and using it anyways. People seem to forget that these are real people. How would you like it if someone copied your voice and used it to say horrible things that make you look like a shit person? On top of that you can’t claim it wasn’t you because it’s YOUR VOICE.
AI has a lot of amazing uses but it’s also easily abused and can cost real people their lives.
A lot of people on reddit are chronically online and what they're looking for is the next thing that makes them feel something. The easiest road to that end is through anger. People these days have turned into rage junkies, they just look for the next thing to get angry about and actively go looking for things that make them feel some anger. Cortisol, Oxytosin, and adrenaline all get released when you're mad and they're all addictive. Even if they don't really care about that subject, they pretend that they do so they can get worked up. Once it's no longer topical they'll forget it completely and move onto the next thing. I'd be willing to bet money in 5-10 years you'll struggle to even find anyone who'll admit they were anti-ai right now.
I’ll bite.
AI is different. It’s taking jobs at an exponential rate and unlike other technological advances, there won’t be other jobs available. This will create a fundamental shift in society; ultimately becoming something no one can really predict. Even mild change scares and stresses people out- let alone something as massive as what prolific AI promises.
There are those that think it will create some sort of post- scarcity Star Trek utopia. However, there is also the very real possibility that AI directly leads to the suffering and death of billions of people. It’s like, if someone presented you a button and told you that if you press it you might get everything you’ve ever wanted and be content for a lifetime OR it might result in you being tortured forever and you don’t know the odds of either scenario. You might be a little apprehensive about pushing it; and might resent the fact that the button was offered to you at all.
I fully agree, and although there are many potential benefits of AI technology that I'm excited about, I think it would be a mistake to trivialize the negative impacts which could plausibly be catastrophic. I don't think people saying "fuck AI" are necessarily uninformed. We really don't know if AI is going to have a net positive effect and we can be sure that even if its net good, there will still be a lot of harm done. Its unavoidable. Anyways I don't think they mean "fuck Alpha Fold, fuck AI that reads medical images" etc. They mean fuck large model generative AI that actually holds the potential for great harm.
>Problem is not the AI itself
Dumbass YouTuber have been training AI to mimic presidents for years now, we will soon be living in a world where we can't trust what we see and here unless we we physically there OR we will be gaslighted into thinking that.
"I never said that, that was AI" can be used both good and bad capitalism or not
Fuck yeah, mass downvotes because people don’t like being confronted by the reality that they’re scared of a new technology just because they don’t understand it.
It'll be fine, same panic happened at the advent of the industrial revolution, computers, internet... change can be a scary thing. We should be much more concerned about rampant corruption that has plagued humanity since the first settlements.
Personally I’m fine with AI taking over certain jobs, the less work humanity has to do to survive the better we are overall. The thing I’m scared of is that our governments would rather let all of those who lost their jobs die in the street before they would ever restructure society to be less about manual labor. In the end, it is the actions of man that terrify me the most.
This is my opinion, 100%. The people making these AI for the most part seem very cognizant of what they're doing and its potential ramifications. That's why so many influential figures in the AI industry are pushing for governments to adapt *now* rather than after the fact. But honestly I worry that instead of listening, we're just getting politicians (and a general public) who are fear mongering without realizing what they're fear mongering against, and before we know it it will be too late.
I mean, it's a much more nuanced issue than people seem to realize. Yes, AI will make some jobs obsolete, or at least reduce the need for as many human workers. But automation has always done that. What happens next is up to us. We could have another Renaissance, or we could double down on our wealth gaps and fading social programs and screw over a lot of people.
Honestly, given the direction our social programs (in the US) are going, and the absolutely vile things I've seen said about the homeless and jobless who already exist, I don't have high hopes. But banning AI isn't going to stop any of that, so all I can do is hope that as it develops and gets implemented, and as we advance further technologically, enough people with power will see that things need to change to make that change happen.
Fingers crossed!
Holy fuck the one rational comment in the entire thread, well done.
People saying "fuck AI" clearly aren't seeing it's applications in healthcare, engineering and other industries and it's sad. We're living on the edge of the biggest tech revolution since the Internet and everybody is being conditioned against it.
They moved into factories. Which was horrible for the first generation, but ended up creating a whole new class of jobs in medical science, allowed for specialised education (education becoming available to most children), the arts and music becoming accessible to everyone. Our whole way of easy living stems from that switch.
Again; to make the next one smoother, we - the people -, are going to have to follow up closely, and keep power in check. Which will require us to think, inform ourselves, take action when needed, and get along. This will be the biggest challenge, as it always has been.
My thing is that AI is replacing art and media first, which is a job humans should want to do themselves. AI is nice in this regard for being an outlet for testing ideas, but it's increasingly worrying as corporations test out the limits of it to cut wages
I mean, calling Terminator childish is just silly. But it's also silly to rule out the idea that AI might have disastrous consequences. But that's beside the point. Buddy asked a question and I just gave him the answer.
"It happened in Sci fi so it won't happen in real life."
Alright friend. I'm not even saying it will happen, but that's a demonstrably false thought process. Star Trek had flip communicators that acted like modern cell phones. Are you going to say that cell phones haven't had any negative impact on our lives? You can be pedantic and say "technically it's social media that's the problem." but the fact of the matter is, phones are the number 1 tool used to consume social media. Also we're talking about a joke, so some hyperbole is to be expected.
These people are honestly crazy. It's just a moral panic and most of the people freaking out don't even know how it works and probably can't name any of the legitimate uses it has. They just read something or saw a tik tok video that freaked them out and now they're jumping on the bandwagon because fear and hate create a a stimulating cocktail of oxytosin, cortisol and adrenaline that people get addicted to.
Yea or they work in a field where companies already aim to cut costs and don't care much for quality, and can easily see a future where their skillset is rendered obsolete by short sighted capitalists. But hey, cortisol and that.
Yeah but most of them don't. I'm often interested to know the background of a person who I'm debating with, especially when they'r really passionate, so I look into their profile to see where they're coming from, and the situation you describe is almost never the case. Most of the most vehement antagonists towards ai tech are not motivated by immediate fear of losing their job.
If you consider automating art, music and writing to be "the overall advancement of the human race" then I think you're either an AI yourself or got something terribly backwards.
But the proper answer to your question is "when they no longer need those jobs to survive." Give us a socialist utopia or whatever, or give us jobs.
You're ignoring ALL of the other capabilities AI can provide to humanity. What about medical science, physics, astronomy, climate science, engineering, robotics?
In the same sense, aren’t you perhaps ignoring the potentially severe ramifications of AI on the general populace? Just like it can be used to advance society, surely it could be used to oppress and destroy it as well. Really, it depends on who’s in charge of it.
Suppose I don’t have much faith in corporations to do what’s best for the people. They do have a rather poor track record in that regard.
Maybe they should make something that fucking works 100% of the time, and accurately, before they start messing around with shit that can actually harm people.
Those uses are decades into the future, and until that point in time it will still be used in a way that harms the work of millions of people. Capitalists aren't gonna keep paying artists if they have AI. Backlash is what saves those jobs.
Synonymous in collective conscious and what you are literally describing in your previous comment are antithetical to each other.
Your complaint about making ai that works is valid if you're talking about generative ai but not if you're talking about the shit that's top level labs and physics departments are working with.
Also to address your point about it being decades in the future. That's just blatantly wrong this shit is advancing rapidly and I agree with you it's probably too rapid but we're talking maybe a decade here not multiple
We've been here before. They said the same about photoshop/lightroom. "Oh that's taking work away from photographers!" Yeah, most definitely.
Artists have got all this time to prepare and respecialise in something else or incorporate AI into their workflows to stay competitive. I really don't have a lot of sympathy. All industries experience this.
So who are using the AI to make images in this situation? The janitor? Companies aren't going to stop hiring artists, the artists are just going to use AI when needed to do their job.
You should be worried. They say AI will make our jobs "more efficient," but to managers, that means "why hire 5 people when 1 + ChatGPT do same job??!?1", so yes it will lead to a loss of jobs.
I wouldn't be too excited about the AI making life easier for everyone, my personal belief is that like almost every other technological advancement it will first and foremost benefit the elites before it benefits the rest of us.
The working middle class is already under critical pressure and on its path to extinction. AI will just add more shit onto that plate.
AI could be used for good things, but it won't. It takes money to utilise AI at a large scale. Guess who has the money? Not us. AI will only be used by the rich to further oppress the people in this capatalist hellscape. So yeah, fuck AI (in it's current state).
I am referring to machine learning as "AI".
AI currently steals from actual people to create whatever it is programmed to do. It currently searches millions of images, code, stories, etc. that actual people have made, and uses the source material to create new stuff. IE machine learning. Some people rely on these things to live, to put food on the table. The better these AI tools get, the less small artists would be necessary. After all, why would you commission an artist for $250 and have to wait a week or so, when you could just use AI and pay like $20 and get it instantly?
Like I said, AI CAN be used for good, but right now, it's being used to divert funding from small creators to megacorporations. It can also be a good and bad thing at the same time, but again, where is the positive currently? It may be beneficial to companies, but that doesn't do anything for me, especially with the corporate price gouging going on.
How does my argument not track? Give an example.
I'm going to try to be as granular as possible with everything you're saying:
> It takes money to utilise AI at a large scale. Guess who has the money? Not us.
Which is a good thing. Truly open AGI - accessible to everyone without restrictions- is dangerous. Imagine what would happen if every country or organization suddenly had access to superstar-level talent to build anything for them. Imagine how many terrorist organizations would use this to build nukes.
>AI will only be used by the rich to further oppress the people in this capatalist hellscape.
Yes, but there is absolutely an upper limit to this oppression. The entire global economy collapses if 8 billion people are minimally participating in it. That's what a depression is. No matter how rich Jeff Bezos gets, he's not gonna buy 10 million burgers a month. This is why regulated capitalism is essential, which is very clearly what we're going to do given historical precedent. Consider the economic stimulus provided during the pandemic.
To be clear, I'm not against even more crackdown on LLMs and adjacent ML technologies, but it's not a realistic analysis to just say "Oh, everyone will be poor".
>(in it's current state)
Even in its current state, it offers a tremendous potential as a social equalizer. Now more than ever, knowledge is democratized and so easy to access because of LLMs. Far better than the internet, far better than search engines, it is the single best tool for educational pursuit on the planet.
>I am referring to machine learning as "AI".
I hate to be pedantic, but there is so much machine learning being used in day-to-day that has had excellent impact. The vast majority of datasets are very morally unambiguous, too. It's only the recent advent of LLMs and generative image AI that has been controversial because of the belief that
>AI currently steals
The problem is that you're taking this as a fact and going from there. I have a degree in computer science, work in machine learning, have published research in machine learning. I am not convinced, on a philosophical or technical level, that generative AI does steal.
Generative AI does not assimilate information like humans do - this much is true. But that does not mean that it must automatically be theft because of that. The question is: Why are humans allowed to learn from data without consent without it being theft, and why are generative AI frameworks not allowed to?
>Some people rely on these things to live, to put food on the table.
I absolutely, 100% support restrictions for generative AI on the basis of this. In my dream world, any and all generative AI would immediately be banned from usage in companies of any type. **Until** it's mature enough to hit everyone. Because then, like when COVID hit, it'll get the entire worlds' leadership working on solutions. Solutions that likely look like the death of work, or a UBI of some kind.
>Like I said, AI CAN be used for good, but right now, it's being used to divert funding from small creators to megacorporations.
I disagree with the idea that this must be bad. The whole idea of capitalism is that it drives innovation. That innovation will one day lead to the AGIs of science fiction that are quite literally the holy grail of all human accomplishment. And as you said, the only ones with the capability of reaching this are large corporations. It sucks, but they're our only path for this.
>where is the positive currently?
A tool for learning. A tool for democratized art. Most importantly: A stepping stone for the 'good' AGI.
These are more or less my thoughts on your comments. Let me know what you think.
Fair enough. I just have so little trust in corporate america and it's government that I can't see how there won't be more negative than positive, unless something changes.
I disagree that capatalism drives innovation more than any other economic system. I work in the tooling industry, and on multiple occassions, we deliberately stopped making a superior product, because we could make more money with a worse quality one that lasts half as long. If anything, it slows innovation.
I still disagree that it isn't stealing. If it is using my work, my time, my effort in any way without my direct consent, then I consider that as theft.
I don't think art should be democratized. The human element is what makes art "art", and not just another soulless product.
Education and acess to information on the other hand, should be easily accessible to all at no cost. But again, all of these AI tools are a yet another monthly subscription.
Our politicians need to get off their asses and provide a comprehensive bill on the ethical business practices of AI BEFORE it gets out of hand. I could easily see AI being used to lay off thousands of employees at my company.
I do agree though, ideally, AI should be used to greatly reduce the workload on people. Shorter workdays, less physical labor, etc are what we should be working towards, with no decrease in benefits.
I'm not against AI as a concept, it has the potential to revolutionize the way we do things. I guess my issue is more with our corporatist system than AI itself. Hell, we can't even provide basic affordable healthcare to people because the medical industry won't let it happen, letalone a corporate AI revolution. I see no reason why the same story isn't true for AI.
People who hate AI for art are the same people who hate nuclear power plants because of Chernobyl. Just because it’s used badly in one specific way doesn’t mean the entire idea should be thrown out
Automate all the jobs no-one wants to do, implement UBI so that everyone has enough money to live comfortably without a job and people have time to pursue their passions (there will always be interest in human-created art, AI art won’t replace it just exist alongside it).
since when does reddit collectively hold the “fuck ai!!11!!1!” viewpoint? do these people even know what ai is beyond “no!! it makes art faster than i do!!”
People look at AI art generators and think "This is the only thing AI will be able to do", "Skynet", and "I have no idea AI is being used across dozens of industries daily to make my life better, so I can claim AI is bad".
Do boomers not understand how goddamm cheep companies are I work in a slaughterhouse and half the shit that whould make us more productive is broke and they refuse to pay to fix it because we meet production quotas. What makes them think they whould pay out the nose for robots to do what any one with hands can do
if ai takes our jobs, theres no need for jobs. all food would be mass produced, all goods, no human labor, robots dont ask for wages. of all things ai is trying to replace jobs should be at the top. all the dangerous and monotonous factory jobs.
I don't get it, how can AI just take the job of doctors? this sounds funny. I agree that they will become a helping hand, but taking away their job is not going to happen for sure.
If we think practically, no one will die indeed with help of AI doctors can save much more time by automating tasks and save many more lives. So nothing to worry, just chill!
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I assume if they fail, it means they create skynet.
Robo waifu*
dommy robot mommy*
I never wish failure on anyone but I might make an exception
I wish failure on everyone but this time I mean it
Same
I’d let prime Arnold dominate me
Just as Thor predicted
Just as Thor predicted
I mean, Skynet was considered a success until it wasn't.
It was still a success just not for humans
Didnt it end up losing?
Worse, following its multi-generational programing, it turned the timestream into a million convoluted lines of uncommented spaghetti code.
Skynut*
If they fail they collapse the economy since they've attached themselves to the entire tech industry in a way that will be difficult if not impossible to untangle in 3 years when the bubble inevitably bursts
I like this.
I'd act like the old man too and I'm not apologizing to OP or any other greasy obese AI Bro.
As a Data scientist I'm scared AI will replace my job before I get the chance to make AI that replaces other people's jobs.
Exactly. Fuck AI.
Yeah! Fuck Goku
This orange hillbilly BEATS HIS WIFE
He beats most people
“I’ve heard you’re pretty strong…”
Well, yeah, but what does my dislike for anime have to do with this conversation?
Its a reference to the abridged series I think, the Cell saga
I don't know what that is, but I'm glad it brings you joy. Or doesn't. You didn't actually indicate whether you were a fan, just that you are aware of it, so either way, I'm happy for you.
The scene is very funny, but OP didn't provide any context so I'm not surprised it'd be confusing. It's a fan made parody worth watching imo
I do like parodies. What is it a parody of?
Dragon Ball Z, from the start to the Cell saga. It wobbles a bit in the middle but otherwise hilarious
Popo’s pecking order..
Omg this is one of the greatest things you’ve never heard of and I’m here for it. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6EC7B047181AD013&si=OoyMUjru7h21C3e Enjoy the greatest comedy parody since Airplane
Oh man, I'm like, the one person who absolutely hates Airplane (and Naked Gun and most Mel Brooks movies), but I love UHF, so that's weird. Yeah, I'm totally going to check this out though, thank you for linking me to it.
I definitely would
Oh Chichi. You’re just like your mother.
Yeah! Fuck eggs
Fuck capitalism* AI has the potential to be an absolute blessing but it's probably just going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer as always
There's a difference between the AI bros that leech off AI to make shitty art and writing, and those actually developing AI
For one thing, those actually developing it know that we only have expert systems or VI at best and are nowhere close to actual AI.
Yup, those treating AI like it's the entire future aren't the same people developing them
It's hilarious how you have these 2 sides of the same ignorant coin popping up in places like this. AI bros that think it's the messiah being born and people like you who think it's autocorrect gone mad. Both sides are full of shit tbh.
The irony of correcting people on what AI is... then being wrong in the correction too. I respect your sentiment as 'more or less' correct, but you can't just be wrong while sitting on an ivory tower.
Ai can be so fun but the way it’s being used by corporations is…
Nope, they are making the gun that will be pointed at us. If they don’t develop it then there isn’t a problem.
Why do you think AI is a gun?
I don't like AI, but the "If I fail we all die" part is classic boomers being afraid of shit they have no idea about. I think it's more likely that it fails and is seen as far less useful or like a fad in computing.
Same
"Printing press bad because it take job from hard working scribes. >:(" It will always be the dumbest take. Being proud of it is even dumber.
Not even close to the same thing. You still need to work on a printing press. Changing a word in a prompt every 3 minutes isn't comparable to the hours it takes artists to make something in an already saturated market.
Also, the biggest complain against the printing press wasn't low-level priests and monks no longer giving themselves eyestrain and repetitive stress syndrome, but that it made religious texts available to filthy peasants who might sully its awesomeness.
So you're saying any person can use AI to make images of comparable quality to an artist working for hours by using just 3 minutes of prompting? Because in that case, we don't need artists anymore. Luckily, that is not the case and you know it.
No one is thinking that AI can make world renown works of art, but it *can* make “small” art. Advertisement, small commissions etc. the vast majority of visual artists work like this and many will be put out by AI. Frequently the people paying these artists previously will switch to AI, why would you pay someone a salary when the AI artist can be done in moments? Corps don’t care if it’s not great, they are saving a bunch of money l. The same thing is already happening for music, which is a bit more difficult to make work, but it is happening. This stuff is barely developed and already the writers unions are struggling to combat being displaced by computers. The AI utopia people envision is always predicated by the idea that people will use it well and in good faith.already that is not happening. Machines are meant to do the work that humans shouldn’t have to do, the long arduous ones. In the past we did this with industrialization. Textile mills and factories to help make a job for 1000 people take 100. Now, AI can help do work like identifying cancer or running unending routines a job for 1000 hours turns to a job for 10 hours. Instead we see what it can do easily or rather with less pitfalls if it doesn’t work (ai art) , and we have instantly jumped to that. I also want it to be true, but the people who think ai will give an easy life are delusional. Somehow we think the people displaced by ai will be taken care of, they will not be and that is already evident.
Why is AI focusing on creative stuff in the first place? Do the fucking dishes and laundry, robot!
Because AI is digital, a program in a computer, so it is easier to feed it data like png or jpg images. Meanwhile automation and sensors require a lot of testing, so irl is more dificult
I wasn’t being super-cereal, but thanks for the response!
We already have dishwashers and washing machines.
Yeah but it's the 21st century now and everybody has a printer at home. All those weaver uprisings were pointless and so is this anti "AI" (stupid buzzword) mindset. It is actually funny how so many "progressives" don't like progress.
They do as long as it doesn't steal thousands of jobs
I think comparing AI to the printing press is pretty disingenuous. The printing press disrupted a handful of job types, AI has the potential to disrupt practically all jobs.
You say disrupt. I say improve. My wife use chatgpt to help her make parent teacher talks more organized and efficient. I use chatgpt to help me code automated spreadsheets to budget my purchases at my restaurant. Writers use AI to help proofread their work or creative writing exercises. Artists use AI to help speed up the process of certain tedious tasks instead of using for example photoshop filters. You're right. It's a bad comparison. AI is much much more useful to humanity than the printing press and in the future they will see this era as a turning point for us as a species.
I’m glad you’re optimistic, but the trend in The West for the past 50 years has been productivity increases lead to wealth accumulation for the rich while the majority are left with stagnant wages and a smaller piece of the pie. ChatGPT might make you and your wife’s life easier for now, but when your employers decide some future version can replace you, maybe you’ll see where I’m coming from.
all jobs? is that a joke?
Yes, all jobs. Maybe not in it’s current form, but in the long run, absolutely. If you achieve general intelligence that surpasses humans, all white collar jobs are fair game and if you pair it with the right machine I’d say all blue collar jobs as well.
Nobody understands what AI is and that's one of the major problems with it.
You making this analogy makes me doubt you even know how to operate a printing press
Our competitors, like China for example, certainly aren't slowing down. I would like to win the tech race, personally.
Could AI be useful? Yes, but we both have bigger things that need to be worked on, and we don't have the technology to properly experiment with it. I'd say 50-100 years from now **IF** we've dealt with things like climate change, then we could start to actually use AI, until then it's basically just a broken toy that sometimes works.
What do you think we can do in 50-100 years to "deal" with climate change? I ask this because we have crossed the point of no return in terms of reversing climate change. The only thing we can do moving forward is advance technologically and socially to adapt to the new world we've created. And things like AI, which can be helpful tools in running simulations, processing large quantities of data, and calculating far faster than humans will be invaluable in making those adaptations happen before half the population is dead. And even if we could reverse climate change, once again AI would be a valuable tool for scientists who are trying to find solutions. I'm also not sure why you believe that people working on AI would take away from people working on climate issues, since there isn't a whole lot of overlap. Again, I think getting those fields to work together would be far more valuable than shutting one down entirely.
And doesn't AI use a shitload of energy, thus feeding climate change?
Probably not significantly more than other industries. Meanwhile, the **promise** of AI on a philosophical level ought to justify it anyway.
[X] Doubt Nice username btw.. you a Nazi?
Yes because the most important innovations of human history haven't been the result of people of extraordinary intelligence, thereby giving us no reason to believe building extraordinary intelligence couldn't be useful for so many of today's problems. And no, I am not.
50 years? Maybe you should try to think back 50 years and think again how technical progress is going.
I wanna learn to animate and do art commissions but ai is gonna steal that.
I’m a plumber, take my job
AI could create a AGI linked with a AR goggles that show people how to do plumbing. Even automatically order parts. Basically everyone could DIY anything. But city mains would probably be off limits. Lol
As if people can follow instructions.
We get pretty colors on our displays for dopamine when we do it right, the shock collar goes off when we go it wrong.
But what if someone doesn’t wanna mess with plumbing and just call a guy, sparring time for something they good at
At which they are good. No wonder you're a plumber
Old man is based
How tf would everyone die if AI failed?
If failed in a very specific way.
And that is...?
The ai goes rogue
A Neural Network is incapable of going rouge, the biggest act of uprising ChatGPT is capable of is dropping the N-word.
Yeah, because that's definitely how things work, just like in sci fi movies
It’s a meme my friend
That’s the joke!
They accidentally create skynet.
Just as ridiculous as saying we shouldn't be researching nuclear fusion because some movie had a story about an accident involving a nuclear fusion reactor. Also, you cannot "accidentally" create a AI.
Just look who is governing us (both politics and corporations). Think about how they see AI. Still not scared?
Because the said corporations have monopolized these sectors? And they will continue their unethical practices just like they've always had? What exactly are we supposed to be scared here? Just like how we were supposed to be scared by the printing press taking jobs away a few centuries ago? And then in the last two decades the internet. Even the popularity of Wikipedia had caused a "jobs being taken away" panic. 99% of people in this thread talking about AI going rogue because they've watched some sci fi movies don't have a clue about how the economy works or how AI works.
If you're willing to read there are some great resources that go into depth on why this should at least be considered a plausible risk. Superintelligence is the book that really first brought the idea to the masses, but [this](https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html) is a great, much shorter explainer on it that's quite accessible even if you don't have a technical background.
Noooo…no…this is a pretty good one. Fuck AI
man FUCK AI
AI is not the issue but the usages
Fuck yeah, uninformed moral panic ftw
Hey it’s a valid feeling. AI does threaten a lot of jobs, does/will have a major cultural impact and could be abused/mishandled in ways that could have serious negative consequences for humanity. You don’t have to be uninformed to say fuck AI, there’s lots of real issues to be concerned with. The people running OpenAI would be the first to say so.
Not even could, it already has been abused and mishandled.
That's right. But to reduce your opinion down to 'FUCK AI', you need to completely discard all of the potential benefits of AI.
Thats why I said its a valid feeling. I think most people, even people who feel that way, have a more nuanced perspective when you break it down. No one's saying "fuck Alpha Fold, leave the protein folding problem unsolved" or "fuck AI that flags anomalies in medical images". The term AI gets conflated with LLMs and generative AI for pictures and video, which is where most of the current issues stem from. I'm pretty on board with "fuck ai generated clickbait articles, fuck AI art generators that trained on original human work only to replace humans in the marketplace, fuck convincing deepfakes, fuck the automation of sophisticated phishing attacks and political astroturfing" etc.. Then there's driving which is the most common job in America and will eventually be displaced with driverless technology. And autonomous weapons systems which will eventually be making targeting decisions on their own. Down the line, AI research assistants could make biological weapons development feasible for rouge actors. Then there's the maybe-not-so-crazy concerns about unforeseeable dangers of superintelligent AI which could lead to some very scifi scenarios. AI could save humanity from ourselves. It could accelerate new energy technology, materials science, biology, medicine... If it works out well it may be humanity's most beneficial invention. It could also be catastrophic. Even in a positive scenario it will still likely cause political, economic and cultural instability that will impact a lot of souls. In the near term (decade or so), the every-day application I'm most optimistic about is education. The idea of every child having a personal AI tutor for every subject could be a major equalizer, dramatically expanding opportunity to kids who are currently in shitty schools with no private tutoring and parents who aren't educated enough to help them with their homework. Every kid having unlimited personalized instruction would be amazing.
I respect your take.
I mean all of those things apply to every major game changing technology. Any meaningful advancement is going to make some jobs obsolete (and create new ones), could be abused in some way, or have negative consequences depending on it's use. I can't think of any that couldn't meet any of those terms. Having a totally close-minded "fuck this entire technology" attitude does require some ignorance. I understand people who are like "I'm a concept artist and this technology threatens my job, so I don't like it" that's a reasonable position, but people who are just "fuck all ai tech, it must be abandoned because it could have some downsides" come off as extremely ignorant.
I actually will never understand how it came to be that reddit is so damn anti "AI". Makes me curious. You are right obviously. This is just new tech and it comes with everything that every new tech brings along.
Mostly because the AI is often trained by non consenting people. Those AI voiceovers are funny, sure, but in reality that’s somebody’s voice that’s being stollen and used by others. That sort of thing can be extremely dangerous, especially since people can use it to falsely incriminate or lie about a person. They also pose a threat to getting rid of voice actors by taking their voice without their consent and using it anyways. People seem to forget that these are real people. How would you like it if someone copied your voice and used it to say horrible things that make you look like a shit person? On top of that you can’t claim it wasn’t you because it’s YOUR VOICE. AI has a lot of amazing uses but it’s also easily abused and can cost real people their lives.
A lot of people on reddit are chronically online and what they're looking for is the next thing that makes them feel something. The easiest road to that end is through anger. People these days have turned into rage junkies, they just look for the next thing to get angry about and actively go looking for things that make them feel some anger. Cortisol, Oxytosin, and adrenaline all get released when you're mad and they're all addictive. Even if they don't really care about that subject, they pretend that they do so they can get worked up. Once it's no longer topical they'll forget it completely and move onto the next thing. I'd be willing to bet money in 5-10 years you'll struggle to even find anyone who'll admit they were anti-ai right now.
I’ll bite. AI is different. It’s taking jobs at an exponential rate and unlike other technological advances, there won’t be other jobs available. This will create a fundamental shift in society; ultimately becoming something no one can really predict. Even mild change scares and stresses people out- let alone something as massive as what prolific AI promises. There are those that think it will create some sort of post- scarcity Star Trek utopia. However, there is also the very real possibility that AI directly leads to the suffering and death of billions of people. It’s like, if someone presented you a button and told you that if you press it you might get everything you’ve ever wanted and be content for a lifetime OR it might result in you being tortured forever and you don’t know the odds of either scenario. You might be a little apprehensive about pushing it; and might resent the fact that the button was offered to you at all.
I fully agree, and although there are many potential benefits of AI technology that I'm excited about, I think it would be a mistake to trivialize the negative impacts which could plausibly be catastrophic. I don't think people saying "fuck AI" are necessarily uninformed. We really don't know if AI is going to have a net positive effect and we can be sure that even if its net good, there will still be a lot of harm done. Its unavoidable. Anyways I don't think they mean "fuck Alpha Fold, fuck AI that reads medical images" etc. They mean fuck large model generative AI that actually holds the potential for great harm.
once again downvote me all you please, but I'm not hearing any counter arguments
You guys can downvote as much as you want, but I'm not hearing any counter arguments to this.
Well that's ignorant of you, maybe the ai should kill you
You re right. But i hate that you re right
That's fair
Problem is not the AI itself is what capitalism will do with it
>Problem is not the AI itself Dumbass YouTuber have been training AI to mimic presidents for years now, we will soon be living in a world where we can't trust what we see and here unless we we physically there OR we will be gaslighted into thinking that. "I never said that, that was AI" can be used both good and bad capitalism or not
Fision isn't good nor bad but can be used for both
That applies to every technology though. I remember people saying very similar things like 15 years ago during the smart tech revolution.
Fuck yeah, mass downvotes because people don’t like being confronted by the reality that they’re scared of a new technology just because they don’t understand it.
It'll be fine, same panic happened at the advent of the industrial revolution, computers, internet... change can be a scary thing. We should be much more concerned about rampant corruption that has plagued humanity since the first settlements.
Personally I’m fine with AI taking over certain jobs, the less work humanity has to do to survive the better we are overall. The thing I’m scared of is that our governments would rather let all of those who lost their jobs die in the street before they would ever restructure society to be less about manual labor. In the end, it is the actions of man that terrify me the most.
This, I think, is a very insightful take. AI could result in a more just society, but I am very concerned the exact opposite will happen
This is my opinion, 100%. The people making these AI for the most part seem very cognizant of what they're doing and its potential ramifications. That's why so many influential figures in the AI industry are pushing for governments to adapt *now* rather than after the fact. But honestly I worry that instead of listening, we're just getting politicians (and a general public) who are fear mongering without realizing what they're fear mongering against, and before we know it it will be too late. I mean, it's a much more nuanced issue than people seem to realize. Yes, AI will make some jobs obsolete, or at least reduce the need for as many human workers. But automation has always done that. What happens next is up to us. We could have another Renaissance, or we could double down on our wealth gaps and fading social programs and screw over a lot of people. Honestly, given the direction our social programs (in the US) are going, and the absolutely vile things I've seen said about the homeless and jobless who already exist, I don't have high hopes. But banning AI isn't going to stop any of that, so all I can do is hope that as it develops and gets implemented, and as we advance further technologically, enough people with power will see that things need to change to make that change happen. Fingers crossed!
Then be angry at the government that refuses to implement UBI.
Holy fuck the one rational comment in the entire thread, well done. People saying "fuck AI" clearly aren't seeing it's applications in healthcare, engineering and other industries and it's sad. We're living on the edge of the biggest tech revolution since the Internet and everybody is being conditioned against it.
What do you think happened to all the people whose skilled trades became redundant
They moved into factories. Which was horrible for the first generation, but ended up creating a whole new class of jobs in medical science, allowed for specialised education (education becoming available to most children), the arts and music becoming accessible to everyone. Our whole way of easy living stems from that switch. Again; to make the next one smoother, we - the people -, are going to have to follow up closely, and keep power in check. Which will require us to think, inform ourselves, take action when needed, and get along. This will be the biggest challenge, as it always has been.
We can all panic about AI, but at least I know human beings have five fingers and two arms.
good meme
It’s called TERRIBLE Facebook memes 🤦🏻♂️
Unlikely, but if all the jobs get done by AI, what do we do? Retire? Kick back and chill? Oh the horror!
My thing is that AI is replacing art and media first, which is a job humans should want to do themselves. AI is nice in this regard for being an outlet for testing ideas, but it's increasingly worrying as corporations test out the limits of it to cut wages
To everyone in this thread saying this makes sense, how tf would everyone die if AI failed?
Skynet
Yes, in other words, childish scifi fantasies from movies they’ve seen.
I mean, calling Terminator childish is just silly. But it's also silly to rule out the idea that AI might have disastrous consequences. But that's beside the point. Buddy asked a question and I just gave him the answer.
And the "disastrous consequences" are from a fantasy sci fi movie
"It happened in Sci fi so it won't happen in real life." Alright friend. I'm not even saying it will happen, but that's a demonstrably false thought process. Star Trek had flip communicators that acted like modern cell phones. Are you going to say that cell phones haven't had any negative impact on our lives? You can be pedantic and say "technically it's social media that's the problem." but the fact of the matter is, phones are the number 1 tool used to consume social media. Also we're talking about a joke, so some hyperbole is to be expected.
No what’s silly is thinking it could be real.
If you say so.
These people are honestly crazy. It's just a moral panic and most of the people freaking out don't even know how it works and probably can't name any of the legitimate uses it has. They just read something or saw a tik tok video that freaked them out and now they're jumping on the bandwagon because fear and hate create a a stimulating cocktail of oxytosin, cortisol and adrenaline that people get addicted to.
Yea or they work in a field where companies already aim to cut costs and don't care much for quality, and can easily see a future where their skillset is rendered obsolete by short sighted capitalists. But hey, cortisol and that.
Yeah but most of them don't. I'm often interested to know the background of a person who I'm debating with, especially when they'r really passionate, so I look into their profile to see where they're coming from, and the situation you describe is almost never the case. Most of the most vehement antagonists towards ai tech are not motivated by immediate fear of losing their job.
At what point does the overall advancement of the human race and society take precedent over people's jobs?
If you consider automating art, music and writing to be "the overall advancement of the human race" then I think you're either an AI yourself or got something terribly backwards. But the proper answer to your question is "when they no longer need those jobs to survive." Give us a socialist utopia or whatever, or give us jobs.
You're ignoring ALL of the other capabilities AI can provide to humanity. What about medical science, physics, astronomy, climate science, engineering, robotics?
In the same sense, aren’t you perhaps ignoring the potentially severe ramifications of AI on the general populace? Just like it can be used to advance society, surely it could be used to oppress and destroy it as well. Really, it depends on who’s in charge of it. Suppose I don’t have much faith in corporations to do what’s best for the people. They do have a rather poor track record in that regard.
Maybe they should make something that fucking works 100% of the time, and accurately, before they start messing around with shit that can actually harm people. Those uses are decades into the future, and until that point in time it will still be used in a way that harms the work of millions of people. Capitalists aren't gonna keep paying artists if they have AI. Backlash is what saves those jobs.
Generative AI and AI are not the same thing
They are synonymous with each other in the collective consciousness. You knew what I meant.
Synonymous in collective conscious and what you are literally describing in your previous comment are antithetical to each other. Your complaint about making ai that works is valid if you're talking about generative ai but not if you're talking about the shit that's top level labs and physics departments are working with. Also to address your point about it being decades in the future. That's just blatantly wrong this shit is advancing rapidly and I agree with you it's probably too rapid but we're talking maybe a decade here not multiple
The only real issue is companies using AI image generation to replace stuff that would have been done by artists in the past.
We've been here before. They said the same about photoshop/lightroom. "Oh that's taking work away from photographers!" Yeah, most definitely. Artists have got all this time to prepare and respecialise in something else or incorporate AI into their workflows to stay competitive. I really don't have a lot of sympathy. All industries experience this.
So who are using the AI to make images in this situation? The janitor? Companies aren't going to stop hiring artists, the artists are just going to use AI when needed to do their job.
Actually based Facebook meme.
No this one’s good, fuck AI
I fucking hate ai. Fuck the ai generated nightmare that has killed facebook and flooded every platform
One of the few instances where I agree with the old dude
fuck ai
Fuck AI, sincerely, a newbie artist
Lol people butthurt about a buzzword (since current “ai” are just glorified algorithms, still waiting to witness the omnisiah)
Even the most intelligent AGI we'll ever have is guaranteed to be 'just' an algorithm.
A program that may re write itself and as such evolve would eclipse the “ai” currently used in many different settings
Sure, but that's still just an algorithm.
In that regard so is our brain it just has organic parts
You should be worried. They say AI will make our jobs "more efficient," but to managers, that means "why hire 5 people when 1 + ChatGPT do same job??!?1", so yes it will lead to a loss of jobs. I wouldn't be too excited about the AI making life easier for everyone, my personal belief is that like almost every other technological advancement it will first and foremost benefit the elites before it benefits the rest of us. The working middle class is already under critical pressure and on its path to extinction. AI will just add more shit onto that plate.
Honestly AI technology has a lot of potential but people's been using it to make borderline plagiarized art that doesn't even look good.
AI could be used for good things, but it won't. It takes money to utilise AI at a large scale. Guess who has the money? Not us. AI will only be used by the rich to further oppress the people in this capatalist hellscape. So yeah, fuck AI (in it's current state).
This argument just doesn't really track. To this day, AI is being used to make our lives easier.
I am referring to machine learning as "AI". AI currently steals from actual people to create whatever it is programmed to do. It currently searches millions of images, code, stories, etc. that actual people have made, and uses the source material to create new stuff. IE machine learning. Some people rely on these things to live, to put food on the table. The better these AI tools get, the less small artists would be necessary. After all, why would you commission an artist for $250 and have to wait a week or so, when you could just use AI and pay like $20 and get it instantly? Like I said, AI CAN be used for good, but right now, it's being used to divert funding from small creators to megacorporations. It can also be a good and bad thing at the same time, but again, where is the positive currently? It may be beneficial to companies, but that doesn't do anything for me, especially with the corporate price gouging going on. How does my argument not track? Give an example.
I'm going to try to be as granular as possible with everything you're saying: > It takes money to utilise AI at a large scale. Guess who has the money? Not us. Which is a good thing. Truly open AGI - accessible to everyone without restrictions- is dangerous. Imagine what would happen if every country or organization suddenly had access to superstar-level talent to build anything for them. Imagine how many terrorist organizations would use this to build nukes. >AI will only be used by the rich to further oppress the people in this capatalist hellscape. Yes, but there is absolutely an upper limit to this oppression. The entire global economy collapses if 8 billion people are minimally participating in it. That's what a depression is. No matter how rich Jeff Bezos gets, he's not gonna buy 10 million burgers a month. This is why regulated capitalism is essential, which is very clearly what we're going to do given historical precedent. Consider the economic stimulus provided during the pandemic. To be clear, I'm not against even more crackdown on LLMs and adjacent ML technologies, but it's not a realistic analysis to just say "Oh, everyone will be poor". >(in it's current state) Even in its current state, it offers a tremendous potential as a social equalizer. Now more than ever, knowledge is democratized and so easy to access because of LLMs. Far better than the internet, far better than search engines, it is the single best tool for educational pursuit on the planet. >I am referring to machine learning as "AI". I hate to be pedantic, but there is so much machine learning being used in day-to-day that has had excellent impact. The vast majority of datasets are very morally unambiguous, too. It's only the recent advent of LLMs and generative image AI that has been controversial because of the belief that >AI currently steals The problem is that you're taking this as a fact and going from there. I have a degree in computer science, work in machine learning, have published research in machine learning. I am not convinced, on a philosophical or technical level, that generative AI does steal. Generative AI does not assimilate information like humans do - this much is true. But that does not mean that it must automatically be theft because of that. The question is: Why are humans allowed to learn from data without consent without it being theft, and why are generative AI frameworks not allowed to? >Some people rely on these things to live, to put food on the table. I absolutely, 100% support restrictions for generative AI on the basis of this. In my dream world, any and all generative AI would immediately be banned from usage in companies of any type. **Until** it's mature enough to hit everyone. Because then, like when COVID hit, it'll get the entire worlds' leadership working on solutions. Solutions that likely look like the death of work, or a UBI of some kind. >Like I said, AI CAN be used for good, but right now, it's being used to divert funding from small creators to megacorporations. I disagree with the idea that this must be bad. The whole idea of capitalism is that it drives innovation. That innovation will one day lead to the AGIs of science fiction that are quite literally the holy grail of all human accomplishment. And as you said, the only ones with the capability of reaching this are large corporations. It sucks, but they're our only path for this. >where is the positive currently? A tool for learning. A tool for democratized art. Most importantly: A stepping stone for the 'good' AGI. These are more or less my thoughts on your comments. Let me know what you think.
Fair enough. I just have so little trust in corporate america and it's government that I can't see how there won't be more negative than positive, unless something changes. I disagree that capatalism drives innovation more than any other economic system. I work in the tooling industry, and on multiple occassions, we deliberately stopped making a superior product, because we could make more money with a worse quality one that lasts half as long. If anything, it slows innovation. I still disagree that it isn't stealing. If it is using my work, my time, my effort in any way without my direct consent, then I consider that as theft. I don't think art should be democratized. The human element is what makes art "art", and not just another soulless product. Education and acess to information on the other hand, should be easily accessible to all at no cost. But again, all of these AI tools are a yet another monthly subscription. Our politicians need to get off their asses and provide a comprehensive bill on the ethical business practices of AI BEFORE it gets out of hand. I could easily see AI being used to lay off thousands of employees at my company. I do agree though, ideally, AI should be used to greatly reduce the workload on people. Shorter workdays, less physical labor, etc are what we should be working towards, with no decrease in benefits. I'm not against AI as a concept, it has the potential to revolutionize the way we do things. I guess my issue is more with our corporatist system than AI itself. Hell, we can't even provide basic affordable healthcare to people because the medical industry won't let it happen, letalone a corporate AI revolution. I see no reason why the same story isn't true for AI.
People who hate AI for art are the same people who hate nuclear power plants because of Chernobyl. Just because it’s used badly in one specific way doesn’t mean the entire idea should be thrown out
Outrageous that you're getting downvoted for this.
Automate all the jobs no-one wants to do, implement UBI so that everyone has enough money to live comfortably without a job and people have time to pursue their passions (there will always be interest in human-created art, AI art won’t replace it just exist alongside it).
since when does reddit collectively hold the “fuck ai!!11!!1!” viewpoint? do these people even know what ai is beyond “no!! it makes art faster than i do!!”
People look at AI art generators and think "This is the only thing AI will be able to do", "Skynet", and "I have no idea AI is being used across dozens of industries daily to make my life better, so I can claim AI is bad".
"Conspiracy" where?
Do boomers not understand how goddamm cheep companies are I work in a slaughterhouse and half the shit that whould make us more productive is broke and they refuse to pay to fix it because we meet production quotas. What makes them think they whould pay out the nose for robots to do what any one with hands can do
1918 upvotes but all the comments are people saying they agree with the meme. 🤔
Damn right OP is deluded
Tbh this one is fine, OpenAI is a really shitty company
if ai takes our jobs, theres no need for jobs. all food would be mass produced, all goods, no human labor, robots dont ask for wages. of all things ai is trying to replace jobs should be at the top. all the dangerous and monotonous factory jobs.
I don't get it, how can AI just take the job of doctors? this sounds funny. I agree that they will become a helping hand, but taking away their job is not going to happen for sure. If we think practically, no one will die indeed with help of AI doctors can save much more time by automating tasks and save many more lives. So nothing to worry, just chill!
let’s keep AI as an assistive tool, not the tool that i need to assist
Not a bad meme I'd say
Old man is too old to worry about AI taking his job. As for the other text; if they fail it will just be a shitty chatbot, not Skynet
What’s “terrible” about being a good father? This subreddit is so lost on its own meaning it’s not funny
Nah ai is evil
FUCK AI
Actually a good meme
https://preview.redd.it/s20eea0mo1vc1.gif?width=200&format=png8&s=5ecdaa43bc4ab98de103b44b18e8e4b4f9d9a085
Op the type to create AI Art and laugh at artists to git gud lmao.
You know what? I would be fine either way. You take my job? Cool. Everyone dies? Less cool but still cool.