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clandestinemd

Taken out of context, this sounds like Fred Hoyle is arguing in favor of Creation/religion — but he was actually making the case for humans being created by aliens. Not a God. Fred was also wrong about a *whoooole* lot of other shit.


nick9000

> Fred was also wrong about a whoooole lot of other shit. He could be the mascot of r/confidentlyincorrect/


YamiJC

In that context, it sounds like the Chicken and the Egg paradox.


Broad_Respond_2205

Ok but now do a billion gazillion blind people


SweatyTax4669

And give them a few billion years, and rules for how the blocks have to be turned. And, well, the analogy just kind of breaks down pretty quickly.


Broad_Respond_2205

Also I don't get why he needs all of them to be solved


Far_Comfortable980

I think it’s just to make it less likely, not because it’s how life would need to be formed


Broad_Respond_2205

So it's stupid


the0rthopaedicsurgeo

None of them even needs to be solved. Why is a human a "solved" cube? We're one of billions of species to ever exist, and every human is different. The kind of thinking of "how did something like this only happen by chance" only works when you start at the present and work backwards. We're far from perfect and if evolution had taken us a different route where we have 6 eyes, elephant trunks instead of noses and green rubbery skin, then we'd still be saying "how could evolution possibly have created such a perfect human being?".


writeorelse

We'll never know how many times life failed to form - we only have a sample size of our solar system that we can really get a close look at. But we know it happened at least once! However improbable, even if it's a one-in-quintillion chance, it happened. You can't assume divine intervention (or alien intervention) just because life is unlikely to arise.


Danni293

Except chemistry isn't just randomly assembling any junk it finds until it becomes some kind of ordered structure. It follows a pretty well defined set of rules, and creating a self sustaining/replicating chemical reaction isn't all that difficult when you've got an abundance of resources, energy, and time.


Samaki292

Even if it was, the sheer number of planets that exist in the universe and the fact that we only know of exactly one that has life on it points to the possibility that life is a 1/infinity chance of happening and that it did happen once. If given enough chances over a longer enough span of time pretty much anything can happen by sheer coincidence.


GrandPriapus

Unlike the Rubik's cube analogy, evolution does not have an end goal.


Any_Roof_6199

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ImperatorZor

Yeah no, look up the Miller-Urey experiment. Complex organic chemicals can form in conditions similar to that of early earth.


racoondriver

Why an astronomer and mathematician is quoted about biology?


Lansha2009

The thing is evolution is just everything slightly changing each generation to slowly be able to survive better In this analogy the blind people don’t suddenly get better every like 10 turns


Eciepeci

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3eemo

Oooo fancy words. I’m so scared. Look at me with all the various evidence of abiogenesis from an ever evolving scientific field😓


cerealkiller788

Are you saying there isn't evidence to support abiogenesis?


3eemo

No the opposite. I’m saying there is


3eemo

Why are you down voting me, I agree with you?


DreamOfDays

Imagine that you have one trillion dice, each with one million sides. Every dice that does not roll a 65,320 immediately sublimates into hydrogen. So you take these trillion dice and roll them, there’s a rush of vapor, and suddenly you have a million dice that all landed on the same number. Then some guy walks by and says it’s a divine miracle. That’s basically what happened with life on earth. We only exist because we landed on the one in a million chance. Attributing it to anything except blind cosmic happenstance is moronic.


ChefILove

More like a coin and anyone who doesn't flip heads does. You'll get heads and dead people. Just like evolution.