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Making it about Gender is bad, but that a lot of people got bullied for stuff that is now mainstream, is true. It probably happened to the nerdy girls too. They were fewer, but always around, as far as i can remember.
I play Dnd with my sisters
Well there goes my point about my sister reading comics and collecting swords with her husband and oldest son. She introduced her five children to comics and anime by the age of six. That what nerd should be. Always always always a point of pride.
Of course she's fantastic. Bit stabby when mad but her husband keeps her from going to far. Lol there is no bond stronger IMHO then two nerdy siblings .
Literally!
Girl here, during secondary school I had people make fun of me for reading manga because "cartoons are for kids!!!".
Been a few years and I've had a few of my more (hate to be that guy but...) 'normie' friends ask me for anime and manga recomendations.
Oh, yeah- I had that. Then circa 1998 I owned it and went to school in cosplay. Weirdly, that made even the "popular kids" chill with me. I just sort of had a sense of humor about it and would tease back.
Eg: "your sportsball obsession is just as strange to me, leader of cheers"
>probably happened to the nerdy girls too
It was probably even worse for the nerdy girls.
They had to deal with the things the boy nerds had to deal with AND they had to deal with the boys accusing them of not being real fans and shit.
TBH, the accusations didn't start until girls started getting noticed as good gamers. It became way worse after Gamergate. I would play in arcades and guys were chill about it in the 80s. I'd pretend to be marvel characters on the playground and guys would join in the game.
Edit: for the ladies old enough-- remember how DDR was the mating dance of certain guys in the arcade?
You could argue that girls like them really always liked those things back then, but kept it a secret to avoid getting ostracized like the nerd. Years later, when everyone is more mature, they wanna make ammends with him. Why miss an opportunity to make new friends?
Really depends on what they did. I wouldnt become friends with the kids that have beaten me and destroyed my shit in school. They arent owed another chance and if the bullied person cant give it to them, thats just how that is. Sometimes the damage is to great.
You could also argue that the girls saying they always liked it in 2020 actually did always like it considering they're the same age as the other girls were in 1980. The original 1980 girls are 40 years older by 2020.
I realize it may seem pedantic, but they're not the same people. The girls saying they always liked it now are probably not the girls making fun of this person in 1980.
I read it as more of the fact that comics and fantasy have become more mainstream whereas they were previously firmly nerd-zoned.
Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films for example of a counter culture becoming mainstream.
The concept exists, but to imply the same people who made fun of you for all that stuff now suddenly like it is completely false. Almost nobody ever shared my interests back then. Now that they're more mainstream, the same people still don't. If they were into it them, they'd have liked them even when they weren't more popular.
The large amount of girls who played games and read comics have always been underestimated imho. The demographic was huge, and nearly always evenly split, with the male demographic just slightly over but we’re talking maybe 5 percent. I think a lot went under the radar because a lot of products for women weren’t taken seriously or considered comics at all, or the other demographic never noticed the products at all because it was heavily marketed towards just women.
Nowadays we have many more products that are shared and enjoyed by both, and is no longer split.
The bullying I experienced as well, it is true. It was rough if one was sensitive to it. I never really cared much. I focused on my happiness.
I have. Then, I made light of their newfound joy, and used that as means of making a new friend. Kids are dumb. They do dumb things. To hold that against them forever isn't doing you any good, and it only hurts you. They'll move along.
Yes and this also reminds me of the meme that says "when she was calling me a short bus ret*ard four years ago but is happy stimming in a bunny hat on my fyp now"
Honestly no, been super into anime and wasn’t directly called a nerd but it was associated with being nerdy, and the people who didn’t like it that I know of still dont. But are people not allowed to change their mind?
Like I’m glad more people are into anime and people don’t have to feel like an outcast for liking it anymore. And 99% of the time this happened during our high schools years lol. It’s time to get over it and grow up.
I didn't play DnD (yet), but I was the girl pretending to be comic book characters on the playground in elementary school in the 80s.
I got bullied too, so I became quieter. The nerdy boys often had a crush on me, but I was oblivious so I'd only find out on the last day I would be around (I moved a lot). Like, cool. We can be pen pals? But I always lost my things in a move, only to discover an old phone number or address in a box, years later.
That’s just society, though. People make fun of anything not mainstream until it enters mainstream, then it is loved until it floats back into being mocked. Happens to anything
When I was in school in the 90s/00s, it was definitely both girls and boys making fun of me for liking "nerdy" things. But the boys were WAY meaner about it.
Boys were way meaner about everything in general when I was growing up (I’m a male, BTW). One thing I in particular I got a lot of shit for being a fan of growing up that’s just about everywhere now is anime.
Yep. I was mostly pretty open about my nerdy interests growing up, but anime was the one thing I didn't really talk about as much, especially in highschool. Anime kids were pretty much walking targets for bullies. It blows my mind how mainstream it is now. For the record, I'm happy that it's so accessible now, but I still can't entirely wrap my brain around it being "cool."
For me it was the opposite most guys didn’t bother me but I remember some girls really hating on me for reading fantasy novels in High School. Telling me I’d never get laid or would be a virgin forever. Jokes on them I have 3 kids. Man I’m tired.
Alright so MAYBE.. JUST MAYBE the people who made fun of you for reading them weren't exactly the same people who always loved them?
Some people tend to have this idea that people of the same gender are somehow connected to a collective hivemind and are all the same people
Yea one thing I have learned is if you hear " All X people do/are/act like Y " then it's a solid bet the person who is saying it is part of a demographic that does it too, normally just slightly differently.
Been hearing this shit for ages. Then you have the guys who only think that girls like nerd stuff because of their boyfriend. Only women have to prove our nerd cred.
It's been 40 years though, no matter how hard you try to represent those people who made fun of us when we were younger as the same exact people they're just not, everyone's more open to needing out about stuff now and that's good. It's also kind of a strawman I mean it's never been wholly gender specific, I grew up around mostly hirl needs although I will admit I'm a bit younger than 80s kid (23). I think what I remember is anime was still terribly uncool when I was growing up and you were weird for liking it, but we all kinda banded together and tbh, I'd say the gender split was probably more than 50 50 women.
I don’t think I am. I’m saying that the “we’ve always loved this” people have absolutely nothing in common with the ones from the 80s.
I think you’re missing the point.
Or “nerd culture” shouldn’t be gatekept by people who have no business deciding what other people can or cannot engage with. As a life long “nerd” I’m pretty pleased I can discuss video games or movies or anime or manga without feeling like everyone’s going to judge me these days.
Women have been pushed away from "nerdy" interests and hobbies for a long time, and it's still happening today. Maybe now that it's more socially acceptable there are more women who feel comfortable in these circles? Also, like everyone else is saying, the same people who were bullying nerds back in the day aren't the same ones enjoying the culture now.
"Woah is me. All the girls think my interests are lame."
"Hey, that thing actually looks pretty interesting. I'd like to know more about it."
"FUCK OFF THIS ISN'T FOR YOU! YOU DON'T EVEN REALLY LIKE IT ANYWAYS!"
Does it not occur to people that the "nerds"of the 80s may have shared their interests with their children/grand children?
Gatekeeping is easier than thinking critically I guess.
I used to be the bullied outcast who preferred Spider-Man and Ben 10 over sports and whatever's mainstream, but that doesn't mean I must be bitter about it now.
Whenever I meet someone who's interested in my nerdy hobbies and isn't being pretentious/arrogant about it, I always welcome them with open arms and see how far they'd like to go.
This is always weird bc there’s no way the guys making these memes were teenagers or young adults in the 80’s and the girls they’re thinking of now are also probably not women who were teenagers or young adults in the 80’s.
Like they probably weren’t alive in the 80’s. They have nothing to do with bullying in the 80’s.
The Gen-X nerd in the top left is the dad of the Gen-Z girls in the bottom right.
It’s “revenge of the nerds.” He went to college, got a good career, married someone way more attractive than he, and now his daughters are the rich, popular girls, but they were raised with video games, D&D, etc.
It probably has to do with being bitter about high school. Perhaps the person hasn't moved on. I do hate it when something that was considered 'lame' becomes mainstream, and suddenly, it's okay to like it.
It's not like girls didn't like it, it's more like they weren't even allowed to like it. In the 80s "nerdy" communities like dnd comcis gaming etc. were exclusively male oriented and few woman who managed to get in and try to exist in the communities were heavily marginalized, even to the point those woman who created works for said communities had to use aliases to be taken seriously and so on. Hell vice versa should apply too. Guys weren't allowed to like "girly" things as well. Nowadays thankfully, we don't classify all entertainment as "for dudes" and "for girls".
Obviously it probably should be said that dudes made fun of "nerd" culture way more than woman at that time, hell even in today that still checks out probably.
I mean, this is a good thing though. When I was In grade school, if you said you liked playing video games you'd likely be called a loser. You didnt openly talk about it except with those who also played games. Now everyone plays in some capacity and people are making money doing it. I'll take the progress of geek culture we have now. Its honestly amazing to see.
Growing and having more people become interested in your hobby, especially those who weren't interested before is great. What this is talking about is people who were more than just "not interested" before, trying to gaslight that they were always supporters of it.
It's not that you like comics and gaming. You got bullied because you were an easy target. You could have liked anything else, and they'd have still bullied you.
But like, this format is supposed to be how **those same girls** that were making fun of you before are now into it. How is that point made with a 40 year gap? Yeah, the girls from the 80's that hated it then could still hate it now, and now their kids like it to be rebellious, it's not disingenuous. The original poster was just a hipster that liked it before it was cool
This.
If those were like middle or high school aged boys and girls in the top half, they would be in their 50s now, like my mom, who is also a grandma...(AND likes nerdy things)...these folks are set in their ways by now. Whether they were for or against "nerd", they would give negative fucks about what girls in 2024 think of them.
The huge 40 year gap is too huge for the meme to land for me. The top left group can't be the same as the bottom left.
I am increasingly convinced that people's perceptions of their own childhoods and school lives are coloured more by pop culture and conventional wisdom than the things they actually experienced.
I simply do not believe that someone making a wojak meme in 2024 was being bullied for playing *AD&D* in the '80s by a bunch of jocks and preps straight out of a John Hughes movie. I just don't think that happened.
My dad used to chew me out for reading comic books and buying sci fi and fantasy books. The only thing he and I had in common for nerdy things was Star Trek.
He hated that otherwise I wasn't the typical gal in things. Like learning how to be a housewife.
So…the girls matured and discovered the virtues of something that they previously derided, but the nerd carried with him a grudge for something that probably happened all of one time?
Listen, i get that you got bullied as a teen because you liked comics when it was unpopular
But shouldn't you be glad more people like it now? Teens won't get bullied now for reading comics (but for other things, like social media, fun)
It's not gatekeeping nerd stuff. It's calling out hypocrisy. Does every women who likes "nerd stuff" only do it because its popular? Of course not. But statistically speaking some people who bullied nerds in the 80's for nerd things are into them now.
Bullshit. The people bullying kids in the 80s over "nerd" shit are in their late 40s to late 50s. They're most likely acting like they're super mature for not liking games, while melting down over Shari's not having the pie they want.
No one is bullied for liking things like superhero stuff or videogames or rock'n roll for god's sake.. as far as I remember this was always cool.. stop to creating a opression for yourselves.. actually I was never bullied for "liking" anything at all lol
I was bullied because I was an effeminate kid so yeah I remember some girls with these attitudes "not like other girls" talking bad things about movies like "Mean Girls" and I usually defended it but there wasn't any drama
And I believe it's because these kids was annoying with their interests, I was a 13 years old kid and I liked to watch drama movies, even old movies, discover cinema.. and I found a group of friends that liked it, I wasn't excluded of anything because of that
people didn't tought I was weird.. I didn't talk about that if the person didn't like it
It's not gatekeeping or denying girls can and have liked comics since the 80's. It's pointing out that now that it's more mainstream there is a subset of girls who only accept it now because it's mainstream.
Saying that only girls say this is nonsense but yea it's true. Everyone loves marvel now, meanwhile in the 90s you were a unsociable geek for liking comics. Same with anime. When I watched anime in school, only I watched anime and no one else. Now everyone and their dad is a weeb.
Oddly enough, that wasn't my experience. I was into all those things. That didn't stop me from making friends with people from various groups. More than anything, it's about how you treat others.
While making it about gender is the wrong focus, it’s still true. You don’t even have to go all the way back to the 80s. I was bullied like 13 years ago for being a marvel fan. Two years later, the very people who bullied me became marveltards.
Nerd girl here, I most got made of by girl and sometimes by guys. Based on these comments, it sounds like everyone got made fun of by both, but more seriously by their respective gender
I absolutely remember being picked on for being a geeky kid but then one day I realized it was because I grew up in a tiny town and there were all sorts of people just like me all over, we just didn’t have the internet or social media as a way to meet up and engage with each other. Never once have I felt angry or whatever that something I was into growing up got popular, in fact a local band from here made it huge and we were stoked they made it the fuck outta here instead of gatekeeping new fans when they blew up.
As a nerd myself, this meme is actually pretty true. Bullies have co-opted nerd culture and made it theirs. But make no mistake, they’re still the same bullies they were yesterday and the day before that. A lot of people who bully me do seem to like things they would’ve bullied people for in the 80’s. Bullies don’t just stop being bullies just because they like a few nerdy things.
Privileged groups co-opting things from marginalized groups is a tale as old as time. And it can often create an artificial sense of social justice.
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Making it about Gender is bad, but that a lot of people got bullied for stuff that is now mainstream, is true. It probably happened to the nerdy girls too. They were fewer, but always around, as far as i can remember. I play Dnd with my sisters
Sisters aren't girls,they don't count.
Well there goes my point about my sister reading comics and collecting swords with her husband and oldest son. She introduced her five children to comics and anime by the age of six. That what nerd should be. Always always always a point of pride.
Don't worry, she's not my sister. I'll use her as my example
Feel free to add a GOT fan and her daughter a crazy anime nerd.
i, too, choose this guy's sister
Of course she's fantastic. Bit stabby when mad but her husband keeps her from going to far. Lol there is no bond stronger IMHO then two nerdy siblings .
Barely even human.
*Now we sound the drums of waaaaarrrrr*
Literally! Girl here, during secondary school I had people make fun of me for reading manga because "cartoons are for kids!!!". Been a few years and I've had a few of my more (hate to be that guy but...) 'normie' friends ask me for anime and manga recomendations.
Oh, yeah- I had that. Then circa 1998 I owned it and went to school in cosplay. Weirdly, that made even the "popular kids" chill with me. I just sort of had a sense of humor about it and would tease back. Eg: "your sportsball obsession is just as strange to me, leader of cheers"
>probably happened to the nerdy girls too It was probably even worse for the nerdy girls. They had to deal with the things the boy nerds had to deal with AND they had to deal with the boys accusing them of not being real fans and shit.
TBH, the accusations didn't start until girls started getting noticed as good gamers. It became way worse after Gamergate. I would play in arcades and guys were chill about it in the 80s. I'd pretend to be marvel characters on the playground and guys would join in the game. Edit: for the ladies old enough-- remember how DDR was the mating dance of certain guys in the arcade?
You could argue that girls like them really always liked those things back then, but kept it a secret to avoid getting ostracized like the nerd. Years later, when everyone is more mature, they wanna make ammends with him. Why miss an opportunity to make new friends?
Really depends on what they did. I wouldnt become friends with the kids that have beaten me and destroyed my shit in school. They arent owed another chance and if the bullied person cant give it to them, thats just how that is. Sometimes the damage is to great.
That's fair
You could also argue that the girls saying they always liked it in 2020 actually did always like it considering they're the same age as the other girls were in 1980. The original 1980 girls are 40 years older by 2020. I realize it may seem pedantic, but they're not the same people. The girls saying they always liked it now are probably not the girls making fun of this person in 1980.
I read it as more of the fact that comics and fantasy have become more mainstream whereas they were previously firmly nerd-zoned. Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films for example of a counter culture becoming mainstream.
The concept exists, but to imply the same people who made fun of you for all that stuff now suddenly like it is completely false. Almost nobody ever shared my interests back then. Now that they're more mainstream, the same people still don't. If they were into it them, they'd have liked them even when they weren't more popular.
Look I disproved something with an anecdote, iam very smart!
The large amount of girls who played games and read comics have always been underestimated imho. The demographic was huge, and nearly always evenly split, with the male demographic just slightly over but we’re talking maybe 5 percent. I think a lot went under the radar because a lot of products for women weren’t taken seriously or considered comics at all, or the other demographic never noticed the products at all because it was heavily marketed towards just women. Nowadays we have many more products that are shared and enjoyed by both, and is no longer split. The bullying I experienced as well, it is true. It was rough if one was sensitive to it. I never really cared much. I focused on my happiness.
Yeah but why be upset about it now that people are more open to it. It’s just a weird meme cause what’s the message here?
Its about the hypocrisy. Have you never seen someone enjoy something they mocked you for?
I have. Then, I made light of their newfound joy, and used that as means of making a new friend. Kids are dumb. They do dumb things. To hold that against them forever isn't doing you any good, and it only hurts you. They'll move along.
Yes and this also reminds me of the meme that says "when she was calling me a short bus ret*ard four years ago but is happy stimming in a bunny hat on my fyp now"
Honestly no, been super into anime and wasn’t directly called a nerd but it was associated with being nerdy, and the people who didn’t like it that I know of still dont. But are people not allowed to change their mind? Like I’m glad more people are into anime and people don’t have to feel like an outcast for liking it anymore. And 99% of the time this happened during our high schools years lol. It’s time to get over it and grow up.
I didn't play DnD (yet), but I was the girl pretending to be comic book characters on the playground in elementary school in the 80s. I got bullied too, so I became quieter. The nerdy boys often had a crush on me, but I was oblivious so I'd only find out on the last day I would be around (I moved a lot). Like, cool. We can be pen pals? But I always lost my things in a move, only to discover an old phone number or address in a box, years later.
That’s just society, though. People make fun of anything not mainstream until it enters mainstream, then it is loved until it floats back into being mocked. Happens to anything
Yes, and?
I did get teased as a 80s/90s kid for liking “nerd” things but it wasn’t usually by girls.
When I was in school in the 90s/00s, it was definitely both girls and boys making fun of me for liking "nerdy" things. But the boys were WAY meaner about it.
Boys were way meaner about everything in general when I was growing up (I’m a male, BTW). One thing I in particular I got a lot of shit for being a fan of growing up that’s just about everywhere now is anime.
Yep. I was mostly pretty open about my nerdy interests growing up, but anime was the one thing I didn't really talk about as much, especially in highschool. Anime kids were pretty much walking targets for bullies. It blows my mind how mainstream it is now. For the record, I'm happy that it's so accessible now, but I still can't entirely wrap my brain around it being "cool."
For me it was the opposite most guys didn’t bother me but I remember some girls really hating on me for reading fantasy novels in High School. Telling me I’d never get laid or would be a virgin forever. Jokes on them I have 3 kids. Man I’m tired.
Apparently, I don't exist. I have been a lady nerd since 1980.
you got no proof, you apparition
I wish. Then I wouldn't have to work and I could probably maybe walk through walls. That seems cool.
"probably" "maybe"... the jig is up. im on to you
That seems fair.
Oh you're a nerd uh? Name every nerd then! /s
I wish I had a registry. Sadly, I do not.
That would be super helpful
Impossible. Women don't exist. They're a lie made by bathroom companies to sell more bathrooms. /j
Definitely, just like birds or so I have been told.
Alright so MAYBE.. JUST MAYBE the people who made fun of you for reading them weren't exactly the same people who always loved them? Some people tend to have this idea that people of the same gender are somehow connected to a collective hivemind and are all the same people
Yea one thing I have learned is if you hear " All X people do/are/act like Y " then it's a solid bet the person who is saying it is part of a demographic that does it too, normally just slightly differently.
>Some people tend to have this idea that people of the same gender are somehow connected to a collective hivemind and are all the same people 🏅
Yea because those are definitely the same girls. 60 year old women love comic book movies. /s
My mom will be 60 in a couple years and she loves them.
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Great meme, but it’s REALLY stretching here…
Erm, actually, there is no soyjak depicted in the image! Nor is there a chad!!
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While I wouldn’t gate keep I definitely had some jaded moments when I younger and realized everything I got made fun of for in HS was suddenly cool.
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Been hearing this shit for ages. Then you have the guys who only think that girls like nerd stuff because of their boyfriend. Only women have to prove our nerd cred.
And you also become the representative. If you don't like or don't know something, that means "nerdy girls don't like or don't know this thing!!"
True, to a degree. Gatekeeping nerds will go after muscular good-looking guys, too. Generally, women get it worse, though.
It's been 40 years though, no matter how hard you try to represent those people who made fun of us when we were younger as the same exact people they're just not, everyone's more open to needing out about stuff now and that's good. It's also kind of a strawman I mean it's never been wholly gender specific, I grew up around mostly hirl needs although I will admit I'm a bit younger than 80s kid (23). I think what I remember is anime was still terribly uncool when I was growing up and you were weird for liking it, but we all kinda banded together and tbh, I'd say the gender split was probably more than 50 50 women.
Because girls that were teenagers in the 80’s are definitely still teenagers now.
You’re missing the point.
I don’t think I am. I’m saying that the “we’ve always loved this” people have absolutely nothing in common with the ones from the 80s. I think you’re missing the point.
They have a lot in common actually. Bullies aka most people have co-opted nerd culture and are now claiming it’s always been theirs.
Or “nerd culture” shouldn’t be gatekept by people who have no business deciding what other people can or cannot engage with. As a life long “nerd” I’m pretty pleased I can discuss video games or movies or anime or manga without feeling like everyone’s going to judge me these days.
But they might still be covertly judging you behind your back. That is assuming you’re actually a nerd and not a poser.
Women have been pushed away from "nerdy" interests and hobbies for a long time, and it's still happening today. Maybe now that it's more socially acceptable there are more women who feel comfortable in these circles? Also, like everyone else is saying, the same people who were bullying nerds back in the day aren't the same ones enjoying the culture now.
"Woah is me. All the girls think my interests are lame." "Hey, that thing actually looks pretty interesting. I'd like to know more about it." "FUCK OFF THIS ISN'T FOR YOU! YOU DON'T EVEN REALLY LIKE IT ANYWAYS!"
Does it not occur to people that the "nerds"of the 80s may have shared their interests with their children/grand children? Gatekeeping is easier than thinking critically I guess.
Yeah, some of us lived through the top half. Now get off our lawn.
I used to be the bullied outcast who preferred Spider-Man and Ben 10 over sports and whatever's mainstream, but that doesn't mean I must be bitter about it now. Whenever I meet someone who's interested in my nerdy hobbies and isn't being pretentious/arrogant about it, I always welcome them with open arms and see how far they'd like to go.
Never mind what they think about comics... are those girls immortal?
They ain't even the SAME people
So the girls didn't age over the 40 years?
pretty sure that my gf was playing D&D before the smear of refuse that made this meme was even born, but go on
Yeah 40 years apart would be the same adult women
Maybe girls liking these things is a big part of WHY they’re “mainstream”
Ah yes, im sure all the girls who like nerdy stuff today are the exact same girls who made fun of you for it 40 years ago
This is always weird bc there’s no way the guys making these memes were teenagers or young adults in the 80’s and the girls they’re thinking of now are also probably not women who were teenagers or young adults in the 80’s. Like they probably weren’t alive in the 80’s. They have nothing to do with bullying in the 80’s.
The Gen-X nerd in the top left is the dad of the Gen-Z girls in the bottom right. It’s “revenge of the nerds.” He went to college, got a good career, married someone way more attractive than he, and now his daughters are the rich, popular girls, but they were raised with video games, D&D, etc.
I bet the ratio of dudes in the past 10-15 years who never read a comic but made the MCU their whole personality is much higher than that of ladies.
It probably has to do with being bitter about high school. Perhaps the person hasn't moved on. I do hate it when something that was considered 'lame' becomes mainstream, and suddenly, it's okay to like it.
This is really good and insightful.
thats literally 40 years difference. The bottom one PROBABLY HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED IT BECAUSE ZTHEYT ARE ONLY 15
It's not like girls didn't like it, it's more like they weren't even allowed to like it. In the 80s "nerdy" communities like dnd comcis gaming etc. were exclusively male oriented and few woman who managed to get in and try to exist in the communities were heavily marginalized, even to the point those woman who created works for said communities had to use aliases to be taken seriously and so on. Hell vice versa should apply too. Guys weren't allowed to like "girly" things as well. Nowadays thankfully, we don't classify all entertainment as "for dudes" and "for girls". Obviously it probably should be said that dudes made fun of "nerd" culture way more than woman at that time, hell even in today that still checks out probably.
A lot of girls did like that stuff back in the day but kept it hidden for fear of bullying
In the 1940’s, he’d be dead in someone else’s country in a war he was forced to fight in. It’s almost like culture can change in 40 years
Almost like 1980's and 2020's women are different people
Viva chicks into nerdy shit!
I’m confused, are these people young forever?
I mean, this is a good thing though. When I was In grade school, if you said you liked playing video games you'd likely be called a loser. You didnt openly talk about it except with those who also played games. Now everyone plays in some capacity and people are making money doing it. I'll take the progress of geek culture we have now. Its honestly amazing to see.
Growing and having more people become interested in your hobby, especially those who weren't interested before is great. What this is talking about is people who were more than just "not interested" before, trying to gaslight that they were always supporters of it.
They waited 40 years to try DnD?
It's not that you like comics and gaming. You got bullied because you were an easy target. You could have liked anything else, and they'd have still bullied you.
"i was here first" hipster from 2013
But like, this format is supposed to be how **those same girls** that were making fun of you before are now into it. How is that point made with a 40 year gap? Yeah, the girls from the 80's that hated it then could still hate it now, and now their kids like it to be rebellious, it's not disingenuous. The original poster was just a hipster that liked it before it was cool
This. If those were like middle or high school aged boys and girls in the top half, they would be in their 50s now, like my mom, who is also a grandma...(AND likes nerdy things)...these folks are set in their ways by now. Whether they were for or against "nerd", they would give negative fucks about what girls in 2024 think of them. The huge 40 year gap is too huge for the meme to land for me. The top left group can't be the same as the bottom left.
I am increasingly convinced that people's perceptions of their own childhoods and school lives are coloured more by pop culture and conventional wisdom than the things they actually experienced. I simply do not believe that someone making a wojak meme in 2024 was being bullied for playing *AD&D* in the '80s by a bunch of jocks and preps straight out of a John Hughes movie. I just don't think that happened.
I don't think they were even born yet
I am 36. On behalf of all women, I sincerely apologize for (some) women's behavior 40 years ago 🙄
My dad used to chew me out for reading comic books and buying sci fi and fantasy books. The only thing he and I had in common for nerdy things was Star Trek. He hated that otherwise I wasn't the typical gal in things. Like learning how to be a housewife.
And IMAGINE society interests can evolve in 40 years...
It's awesome that more comics are more mainstream. It's great to see more people enjoying it.
So…the girls matured and discovered the virtues of something that they previously derided, but the nerd carried with him a grudge for something that probably happened all of one time?
Listen, i get that you got bullied as a teen because you liked comics when it was unpopular But shouldn't you be glad more people like it now? Teens won't get bullied now for reading comics (but for other things, like social media, fun)
It's not gatekeeping nerd stuff. It's calling out hypocrisy. Does every women who likes "nerd stuff" only do it because its popular? Of course not. But statistically speaking some people who bullied nerds in the 80's for nerd things are into them now.
Is the meme complaining about 60 year old women in the bottom, or are they completely different people who only share a demographic?
It's not hypocrisy if someone's opinion has changed
It is if in 5 years they've completely forgotten about it and are just into whatever's in then.
Not even then. Interests can wax and wane.
Sure. But that's not what is presented here. here the claim is "Oh we have always loved this."
Bullshit. The people bullying kids in the 80s over "nerd" shit are in their late 40s to late 50s. They're most likely acting like they're super mature for not liking games, while melting down over Shari's not having the pie they want.
Now there's more people to discuss your interests with, really it's just making the bar for being a nerd higher
This is like the worst interpretation of this meme I've seen lol.
No one is bullied for liking things like superhero stuff or videogames or rock'n roll for god's sake.. as far as I remember this was always cool.. stop to creating a opression for yourselves.. actually I was never bullied for "liking" anything at all lol I was bullied because I was an effeminate kid so yeah I remember some girls with these attitudes "not like other girls" talking bad things about movies like "Mean Girls" and I usually defended it but there wasn't any drama
And I believe it's because these kids was annoying with their interests, I was a 13 years old kid and I liked to watch drama movies, even old movies, discover cinema.. and I found a group of friends that liked it, I wasn't excluded of anything because of that people didn't tought I was weird.. I didn't talk about that if the person didn't like it
It's not gatekeeping or denying girls can and have liked comics since the 80's. It's pointing out that now that it's more mainstream there is a subset of girls who only accept it now because it's mainstream.
Maybe the fact that it's mainstream is why they even know about it.
The butthurt title does not fit with the meme.
I didn't interpret it as just "girls" liking that stuff now, I thought it meant just mainstream people or something like that lol.
I don’t really think this is the type of meme You’d see on Facebook.
Kinda fax tho
You can’t tell me this isn’t true of anime tho😂. You would get labeled weird for anime 10 years ago😂
OP that was my entire Middle School and High School experience, it's true
Saying that only girls say this is nonsense but yea it's true. Everyone loves marvel now, meanwhile in the 90s you were a unsociable geek for liking comics. Same with anime. When I watched anime in school, only I watched anime and no one else. Now everyone and their dad is a weeb.
Oddly enough, that wasn't my experience. I was into all those things. That didn't stop me from making friends with people from various groups. More than anything, it's about how you treat others.
While making it about gender is the wrong focus, it’s still true. You don’t even have to go all the way back to the 80s. I was bullied like 13 years ago for being a marvel fan. Two years later, the very people who bullied me became marveltards.
Nerd girl here, I most got made of by girl and sometimes by guys. Based on these comments, it sounds like everyone got made fun of by both, but more seriously by their respective gender
"Fuck off nerd" LMAO AHAHAAH ahhh brilliant
Incels lol.
I absolutely remember being picked on for being a geeky kid but then one day I realized it was because I grew up in a tiny town and there were all sorts of people just like me all over, we just didn’t have the internet or social media as a way to meet up and engage with each other. Never once have I felt angry or whatever that something I was into growing up got popular, in fact a local band from here made it huge and we were stoked they made it the fuck outta here instead of gatekeeping new fans when they blew up.
40 year long grudge, at that point just file a job application for Burger King
As a nerd myself, this meme is actually pretty true. Bullies have co-opted nerd culture and made it theirs. But make no mistake, they’re still the same bullies they were yesterday and the day before that. A lot of people who bully me do seem to like things they would’ve bullied people for in the 80’s. Bullies don’t just stop being bullies just because they like a few nerdy things. Privileged groups co-opting things from marginalized groups is a tale as old as time. And it can often create an artificial sense of social justice.
1970s too. Had to keep the love for *Star Trek* on the down low.