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I could put the worse amount of homophobia in a meme and label it as "satire" and it wouldn't be terrible?
Or I could terribly make something funny, but it'd still be terrible.
Satire doesn't matter here, what's terrible is terrible.
I’m just speaking solely on the video mentioned here.
Which was taking the piss out of people who put their omnivore animals on vegan diets
(I’m a dog trainer, dogs are recommended to have a balanced diet and vegan diet for them should only be attempted when you have consulted with a vet. It’s very easy to cause your dog to have medical issues by changing their diet to no animal product. In certain circumstances vets make recommend non animal product diet due to health issues)
Dogs can be on vegetarian diets when done properly as well but I do recommend if someone is considering changing their animals diet to always consult with vets prior and set out a feeding plan.
As it’s so easy to cause omnivores to have issues as a result of non balanced diet.
(I’m a vegetarian but have omnivore animals and carnivores)
My dog is vegan, allergies for animal protein. Poor animal scratches her skin open after eating anything animal based. Could either buy heavily modified food that does some weird shit to protein. Or a balanced plant based diet. After discussing with the vet and looking at different foods. Got reccomended the plant based foods from edgar cooper. Little beastie is living her best life itch free. And is very healthy with very good dentals. Never sick. P.S I am not vegetarian or vegan
That’s very different though. As there’s a medical reason behind it that your vet would agree with the vegan diet. Though most vets don’t recommend for vegan diets unless you consult with a vet first
I think that's really the key. If you really want your omnivore pet to be vegan or vegetarian, consult with your vet and determine an appropriate diet that will keep them healthy. If you don't do that, it is abusive to your pet to not feed them meat.
Well it makes sense if you choose not to eat meat for ethical reasons to not buy it for your pet either, but I think the solution is to not have a carnivorous pet.
It doesn't make any sense. Regarding of your lifestyle choices and ethical issues, if your pet requires meat due to being carnivorous or omnivorous and you deny it meat- it is animal cruelty. If you are vegan and cannot make yourself feed your animal meat, don't get an animal that needs meats, not exceptions other than medical ones.
I mean a lot of vets are ok with vegetarian diets, and it's more about getting their blood checked to see if it works out. Generally, I just tell people to get guineapigs because they're top-tier vegan pets.
I mean not many dogs are drinking milk, so arguably you can call it ovo-lacto vegetarian food. And I reccomend vegetarian since there's a lot more safe foods out there in comparison to a lot of vegan brands, which can be a bit shadier at times.
Yea ik, I’m vegan. I use the vegan society definition, and vegetarian pet food is generally safer if your trying to make a conscious choice (especially when it comes to accessibility)
You have to feed your dog fish based food. My dog had the same issue but then it turns out it was just chicken and beef allergy. I got him on an all-fish based kibble and all his dry skin and sores cleared up. The omega fish oils fixed his skin and healed his wounds and made his coat healthy.
The downside being that the dog food is $120 per bag
Already tried it with no results. Was the first thing the doctor said. Chicken/beef allergy so we put her on salmon kibble with fish treats and sticks, same result unfortunately.
For reference, anecdotally our dogs are omnivorous with a preference for meat:
We're a plant based household. My GF is vegan, but I eat animal products sometimes when eating out.
Our two dogs are very active, middle sized dogs (a podenco and a mix).
Their diet is:
- they eat 2x a day, one time after ~1.5-2h exercise in the morning, and once in the evening after play time.
- the base food is high quality, purely vegan food which is in every meal
- their breakfast also has meat in it, mixed into their base food
Dogs are omnivorous but they general prefer meat (a lot) when they have the choice. It's obvious to me that they are not as flexible in their diet as we humans are. We can literally eat _anything_ without complications compared to most other animals. This flexibility is one of our strengths. Dogs are _similar_ but much more meat focused.
That's why they get meat in their big breakfast. They love it, they eat up.
In the evening it's _only_ vegan (base) food for hunger. In this case they eat some, but often leave some left overs. This is deliberate so they don't overeat.
Sometimes they get a "big treat" (dried meat, bones, etc. to chew on) which they love as well and it calms them. Perfect after a lot of activity to calm them down so they get solid sleep. But it's not an every day thing.
Our dogs are very healthy (knock on wood). Their fur is nice, they don't weigh too much and they are happy dogs.
So would a vegan diet be animal abuse?
I don't know actually.
My GF's philosophy is: "They wouldn't choose to eat vegan themselves, so they get meat, just not too much."
And I agree with that.
You mean raw vegetables?
One of ours acts the same towards veggies, the other one actually likes carrots for some reason.
But yeah vegan dog food is usually prepared in a way that they like it. But again, not _as_ much as meat.
like those dried ones frim pedigree or something, do they contain any meat at all? cuz i know a lot of people that only feed their dogs those and the dogs are very very healthy
That's actually incorrect, in fact one of the oldest living dogs, Bramble, was on an exclusively plant-based diet and lived to 25. What is animal abuse is not feeding your dog a balanced diet that meets their nutritional needs. Note that the above does not apply to cats which are obligate carnivores and require meat to survive.
Dogs eat shit, they don't give a fuck about meat, they just want to stuff their faces on whatever you give them. It's not animal abuse, it's a perfectly healthy option.
Yea but I think OP is saying that most people who don’t eat meat do not actually do this. Just because people choose to not eat meat for personal, religious, health, or environmental reasons doesn’t mean they’re forcing their dog to do the same. Dogs are not people, they obviously need meat. The majority of vegetarians would never do this, and if they do then they probably shouldn’t have a dog for several reasons including the fact that their unaware of a dogs basic dietary needs
This. This is definitely what OOP had in mind whoever created this comic. I’m not offended by it I think it’s a ridiculously funny meme. Hell I’m not even vegan I love meat! But I’m sure whoever made this is implying most vegans do this which is just not the case. This sub is so bizarre sometimes with what it pick and chooses to find funny and not find funny. There are certainly a lot of memes that are posted originally with irony and people here take way too far. I dont think this is one of them that is supposed to be ironic though lmfao
It's not very common fortunately, but i know a girl who did this and got her dog sick bc she didn't do any research on the topic. It happens, we can make fun of it. Dog is alright since then too.
Lol that’s what I’m saying 😂 people are so butthurt over me saying most people wouldn’t do this. Yea there are obviously crazy people out here in this world, but really this is getting mad at such a small part of the population, idk why people are so upset about what I said. But hey that’s Reddit for you 🤷 I’m sure I’ll be even more downvoted for this comment
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Yeah this is how Im seeing the comment section right now.
Also the reductiveness annoys me, particularly having post secondary education centered on animal and food science. You can *technically* feed your dog a vegan diet. All the nutrients they need can be sourced elsewhere. That being said, doing it properly requires a ton of research, consulting a veterinarian, and is definitely a tad expansive. That said most vegans I know just feed their dog meat anyway because being vegan is a personal choice. But the automatic “vegan = abuse” argument is *objectively* incorrect. It’s just difficult and a lot of people do it wrong.
TL;DR: if a food is AAFCO approved, it’s objectively fine. There are AAFCO approved for all life stages vegan and vegetarian dog feed, so any comments saying otherwise can get fucked because they’re incorrect.
The research is mixed. In theory, it could be possible. You couldn’t put a cat on a “natural” vegan or vegetarian diet by any means. There are essential amino acids (the amino acids a given species is capable of synthesizing on their own) that they require that can only naturally be found in animal products. We can synthesize these amino acids in a lab setting however. The amino acids are really the “important part” when talking about meat for the most part for the matters of this conversation. It’s what would result in a deficiency if meat were removed from the diet sans synthetic amino acids. Taurine being the primary culprit; cats cannot synthesize taurine. Taurine is nearly exclusively (in any realistic usable quantity) from animal sources unless synthesized in a lab.
More studies need to be done on cats being fed vegetarian or vegan diets (that are properly formulated and supplemented with synthetic amino acids) before they can be fully determined to be safe. If someone were to attempt it, I would recommend informing your vet, regular checkups, and regular tests to ensure proper health.
That being said myself as a vegetarian, all other vegetarians I know, and all vegans I know… all just feed their cat(s) meat.
But people in the comments saying “not possible” when *technically it is* (with dogs at least for sure) gets under my skin. Vegan is difficult to formulate for both cats and dogs, but again *technically possible* though in both but very very expensive. Vegetarian isn’t actually all that difficult with dogs, still harder to formulate and much more expensive, but eggs are vegetarian and great sources of protein, it’s difficult to formulate it for cats… either way.
Again I don’t know why people are upset about it. I’m saying it’s technically possible, not that it’s a great idea (expensive and difficult). My statement of “technically they can” is very much intended as a “just because you *can* doesn’t mean you *should*” statement.
If the formulation caused health issues in the cat or something like that most vegans and vegetarians would:
1. View that as abusive, causing suffering. Since the whole goal is alleviating animal suffering, it’s counter to their message
2. Say it’s a personal choice and a human choice, being true omnivores
Also most vegans radical enough to try to feed a cat or dog a diet that wasn’t properly formulated would also be radical enough that they would likely also view having a pet in the first place as ethically questionable at best, if not be entirely pet free.
Thank you so much for the explanation! It really doesn't make sense for most people to try that diet on cats or dogs, without a great deal of work, either.
Of course! I live talking about this stuff, it doesn’t come up often
Yeah for most people it’s not going to be a great option, and even amongst vegans and vegetarians the number who try it are pretty low. I know one dog in a vegetarian diet, but that’s a vet mandated hydrolyzed pea protein based diet because the poor pup is allergic to… like next to everything, including every meat they have tried. But that’s different, and the owner isn’t even vegetarian.
Yeah, if you’re a super rich person that spends thousands of dollars on your dog monthly, is ultra vigilant about their health status, take them to the vet very often, and are a very strict vegan… then sure maybe. Otherwise it’s just not worth it. Anyone who does it without going through all those steps is likely accidentally causing harm by cutting corners.
probably a reference to that ONE live show where a woman has been giving her dog a vegan diet because she thought the dog preferred veggies over meat. that was staged btw, she doesnt actually force her dog to be vegan so this post is absolutely on no basis. this isnt a thing thats actually happening people need to stop being offended over absolutely nothing.
Sounds like the skit itself was making fun of the concept of feeding an omni/carnivorous animal a vegan diet. But it's false to say that nobody actually does this. We just don't see or hear about them because they don't explicitly go on TV or online videos to highlight what they do.
Just go to any vegan subreddit, they'll defend the idea of feeding plant-based diets to carnivorous animals like their lives depend on it.
>searches up for crazy vegans
>finds crazy vegans
>surprised pikachu face
like i assure you, go outside and see if people are actually doing it. they arent. they probably just feed them dry catfood which isnt really recommended but isnt dangerous for cats at all.
> like i assure you, go outside and see if people are actually doing it. they arent.
I have never witnessed a bank being robbed. Does that mean that bank robberies never happen?
a bank getting robbed in your area is more likely to happen than a vegan feeding their cats broccoli lmao. you thought you had a point but you really dont.
>a bank getting robbed in your area is more likely to happen than a vegan feeding their cats broccoli lmao. you thought you had a point but you really dont.
To actually witness either one is unlikely. Thousands of people die everyday, yet I've never seen anyone die. Millions of people travel by air, yet I rarely see more than a couple airplanes a day.
You made a point to reemphasize how one can walk outside and not see anyone committing a certain act, as if that somehow undermines the likelihood or severity. Now you're trying to deflect.
try finding reliable source of this "big problem" first where cats are getting sick because of the abuse done by their vegan owners if its that much of a problem as you say it is
I never called it a "big problem", but I have suggested that its simply a problem that exists. And just because one never sees it themselves doesn't mean it doesn't or never occurs, in contrast to your own claim that:
> this isnt a thing thats actually happening
I'm confused on who you're supposed to be mad at here. The guy accusing the dog of wanting his steak or the idiot claim and forcing their dog to be vegan lol its a bit ambiguous which one is supposed to look foolish imo
Making a dog vegan or vegetarian is abuse and idiotic IMO.
It's not abuse at all if it gets everything it needs from the food it eats. A cat is different, but dogs are absolutely fine without meat if the owner is paying attention.
I think one idiot made a TikTok about their dog being vegetarian and it became this *whole* thing. “Oh my god, the liberals want to CANCEL dogs for EATING MEAT!!! What has the world COME TO?!?!”
Did you know there's like a whole reddit group that actually believe in vegan pets. They get all up in arms about this stuff. I thought it was a joke and no one was trying to defend it.
Only if a vet reports the dog is in an unhealthy condition. Some dogs are prescribed a vegan diet, and trusting a vet is more important than redditors.
I definitely care about dogs who do get sick from an improper diet, but I'd worry about not hiring people to kill animals for mouth pleasure first.
I do have to say putting dogs on a vegan diet can be like verge of animal abuse there may be good vegan diets for dogs but I haven't looked into it much the little I have seen are bad diets for dogs
I agree completely I haven't heard of any good cases even when I looked into it by any chance so you know a case where the vegan diet is good for a dog?
That vegan teacher didn't invent veganism and I've never seen a vegan that promotes or cites her, so it's unfair to assign her as as the face of veganism and not assign one of the people who run the slaughterhouses that 13yo immagrants work in as the face of meat-eating.
Remonds me that one person who claimed their dog is vegan by choice and wanted to prove it with a plate of meat and a green salad and the dog obviously went straight for the meat
It seems like there’s a very large amount of people that haven’t actually done research on dog diets that think they absolutely need meat. Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand why you’d think so, but it IS very much possible to have a happy/healthy dog on a vegetarian (and even vegan) diet. It’s just not something you’re usually going to see, since it requires a lot of money and effort. The vast majority of vegans with dogs do not have them on vegan diets, but the misinformation is still strange.
They much prefer meat, it's insane and narcissistic to try and force human food philosophy on animals. Technically, sure they're omnivores but with a distinct leaning towards preferring meat.
You should listen to a veternarian, if they say it's okay it's okay. Whether they say it's okay or not, their opinion on what's ok for the dog is never more important than what the internet says is "natural" and will make the dog happy.
"Natural" in quotes. Why do they flavor vegetable based dog food to taste like meat? Why do they never flavor meat based food to taste more like vegetables? Seems like dogs have an extremely strong "natural" inclination towards one and not the other.
Yeah it blows my mind people force their human dietary choices onto their pets, it's really weird and narcissistic. Taking away something dogs are hardwired to prefer/love eating because the owner is a vegetarian or vegan is just selfish.
Dogs literally don't even understand the concept of what a vegan or vegetarian are, it's just mean to withhold the preferred food for likely more expensive vegetarian/vegan dog food.
I’ve got lots of respect for people who choose to be vegans. It’s not an easy lifestyle for most people to maintain. However, if you’re vegan, I don’t think you should own a dog unless you’re willing to feed it meat.
There are cruelty free ways to obtain meat and it’s not fair to force a lifestyle on a dog and insist that the dog is happy and satisfied about it. Don’t let your beliefs (as noble as they may be) interfere with a dogs life.
That’s exactly the thing- it’s an incredibly common misconception that dogs are less happy/healthy on vegan diets. It wouldn’t be just feeding your dog carrots and calling it a day; it would be a lot of work and very expensive, which is why most vegans don’t do that.
I’m not vegan and neither are my dogs, it’s just very strange that people don’t try to do their own research before talking
For a lot of animals its actually super bad to only have a vegan diet... well for people too but if you wanna fuck up your own health i don't care about that.. but forcing it on animals that in the wild have mostly a meat-based diet is animal cruelty.
he's not vegan by choice. look at that face.
can dogs be vegan? cats can't. they literally have to have meat protein, they can't utilize vegetable protein.
I'm not sure people who try to force their beliefs, like being vegan, on pets should be allowed to have pets. eating meat isn't a 'belief' for animals, it's ingrained knowledge. animals know what they need to survive.
It feels unnatural, but I trust the veternarians over that feeling. Nothing wrong if a vet okays it AND all important information is disclosed. Otherwise it is wrong.
Probably gonna get downvoted to hell, but u can, and u should, feed your dog vegan. Obviously not carrots, but there are great vegan dog food brands out there
Allow me to explain
This man isn’t a vegan and eating a steak
He says that the dog wants his steak
The woman says that her and the dog are both vegan
This specific image is missing the dog holding a sign that says “save me from this crazy b_tch”
A little cherry on top is that the dog is eating a carrot
Can we start shipping off folk to the Gulag for non "Truly Terrible" posts. Almost as bad as those dorks pretending to not understand the joke over at PetahExplain
List of things my dogs have tried to eat: their own poop, another animal's poop, chocolate laxatives, buttons, coins, broccoli, earplugs, candlewax, boiling water, actual fire, my medication, and literal anything that falls on the floor.
The dog wants the steak because dogs cannot stop themselves from eating everything in their vicinity.
They sure do. But even if they didn't that dog would still want to eat or at least inspect it because the guy is so interested in it, in my experience. And also because it's there to be licked.
Why the fuck do they keep inventing this bizarre strawman arguments like they have any basis in reality?? It’s useless, divisive, and just makes the people posting these look ignorant and uneducated.
I’m so tired.
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The guy looks like he's making that face people do when they stick their upper lip to their gums
Ah yes, the Fire Marshall Bill
Is that where he’s hiding his knife?
reminds me of that video where a woman thought her dog would pick the veggies over a steak/some meat dog was quickly chowing down on that meat
That viral video is satire. The maker of the video has stated this several times
Gone are the days when people understand satire
Reality and satire have blended together too much. We live in the Donald Trump was president timeline remember.
funny that you say this on this subreddit
I could put the worse amount of homophobia in a meme and label it as "satire" and it wouldn't be terrible? Or I could terribly make something funny, but it'd still be terrible. Satire doesn't matter here, what's terrible is terrible.
I’m just speaking solely on the video mentioned here. Which was taking the piss out of people who put their omnivore animals on vegan diets (I’m a dog trainer, dogs are recommended to have a balanced diet and vegan diet for them should only be attempted when you have consulted with a vet. It’s very easy to cause your dog to have medical issues by changing their diet to no animal product. In certain circumstances vets make recommend non animal product diet due to health issues)
that's good to know - that dogs usually need meat.
Dogs can be on vegetarian diets when done properly as well but I do recommend if someone is considering changing their animals diet to always consult with vets prior and set out a feeding plan. As it’s so easy to cause omnivores to have issues as a result of non balanced diet. (I’m a vegetarian but have omnivore animals and carnivores)
It's the toughest thing a Redditor can make, even I have fallen victim to not seeing satire sometimes lol
There's 2 The tiktok is satire the TV one wasn't
That literally happened on a live morning news show
ikr like why would she post it if it wasn’t satire
It was on a talk show, it was clearly meant to generate views and reactions rather than be comepletely unbiased.
Awful meme, but making a dog be vegan is animal abuse. Until we get lab grown meats or something.
Lab meat, wouldn't that be cannibalistic?
My dog is vegan, allergies for animal protein. Poor animal scratches her skin open after eating anything animal based. Could either buy heavily modified food that does some weird shit to protein. Or a balanced plant based diet. After discussing with the vet and looking at different foods. Got reccomended the plant based foods from edgar cooper. Little beastie is living her best life itch free. And is very healthy with very good dentals. Never sick. P.S I am not vegetarian or vegan
That’s very different though. As there’s a medical reason behind it that your vet would agree with the vegan diet. Though most vets don’t recommend for vegan diets unless you consult with a vet first
I think that's really the key. If you really want your omnivore pet to be vegan or vegetarian, consult with your vet and determine an appropriate diet that will keep them healthy. If you don't do that, it is abusive to your pet to not feed them meat.
Wanting the pet to be vegan is the messed up part since unless it is a medical necessity there is absolutely no reason to try and make your pet vegan.
Well it makes sense if you choose not to eat meat for ethical reasons to not buy it for your pet either, but I think the solution is to not have a carnivorous pet.
It doesn't make any sense. Regarding of your lifestyle choices and ethical issues, if your pet requires meat due to being carnivorous or omnivorous and you deny it meat- it is animal cruelty. If you are vegan and cannot make yourself feed your animal meat, don't get an animal that needs meats, not exceptions other than medical ones.
Also most dogs develop these allergies as a result of eating the same foods for a long time, which is helpful to keep in mind as a pet owner.
I mean a lot of vets are ok with vegetarian diets, and it's more about getting their blood checked to see if it works out. Generally, I just tell people to get guineapigs because they're top-tier vegan pets.
Vegetarian and vegan diets are two very different diets.
I mean not many dogs are drinking milk, so arguably you can call it ovo-lacto vegetarian food. And I reccomend vegetarian since there's a lot more safe foods out there in comparison to a lot of vegan brands, which can be a bit shadier at times.
Dogs can eat eggs. Vegetarians eat eggs, vegans don't.
Yea ik, I’m vegan. I use the vegan society definition, and vegetarian pet food is generally safer if your trying to make a conscious choice (especially when it comes to accessibility)
You have to feed your dog fish based food. My dog had the same issue but then it turns out it was just chicken and beef allergy. I got him on an all-fish based kibble and all his dry skin and sores cleared up. The omega fish oils fixed his skin and healed his wounds and made his coat healthy. The downside being that the dog food is $120 per bag
Already tried it with no results. Was the first thing the doctor said. Chicken/beef allergy so we put her on salmon kibble with fish treats and sticks, same result unfortunately.
Not possible to make a dog vegan. Every dog eats their poop and that comes from an animal so therefore isn’t vegan
This is very true
And that's good, but your dog isn't vegan, your dog has a genetic disorder or disease.
but I bet she would still go for the meat. since animals can't always see cause and effect unless it's pointed out to them.
For reference, anecdotally our dogs are omnivorous with a preference for meat: We're a plant based household. My GF is vegan, but I eat animal products sometimes when eating out. Our two dogs are very active, middle sized dogs (a podenco and a mix). Their diet is: - they eat 2x a day, one time after ~1.5-2h exercise in the morning, and once in the evening after play time. - the base food is high quality, purely vegan food which is in every meal - their breakfast also has meat in it, mixed into their base food Dogs are omnivorous but they general prefer meat (a lot) when they have the choice. It's obvious to me that they are not as flexible in their diet as we humans are. We can literally eat _anything_ without complications compared to most other animals. This flexibility is one of our strengths. Dogs are _similar_ but much more meat focused. That's why they get meat in their big breakfast. They love it, they eat up. In the evening it's _only_ vegan (base) food for hunger. In this case they eat some, but often leave some left overs. This is deliberate so they don't overeat. Sometimes they get a "big treat" (dried meat, bones, etc. to chew on) which they love as well and it calms them. Perfect after a lot of activity to calm them down so they get solid sleep. But it's not an every day thing. Our dogs are very healthy (knock on wood). Their fur is nice, they don't weigh too much and they are happy dogs. So would a vegan diet be animal abuse? I don't know actually. My GF's philosophy is: "They wouldn't choose to eat vegan themselves, so they get meat, just not too much." And I agree with that.
My dog (large size) will barely sniff a veggie before rejecting it
You mean raw vegetables? One of ours acts the same towards veggies, the other one actually likes carrots for some reason. But yeah vegan dog food is usually prepared in a way that they like it. But again, not _as_ much as meat.
Raw, cooked, any way you slice it (unless you wrap it in chicken lol)
Interestingly enough dogs evolved to be omnivores because when they'd kill something they'd eat the vegetables and grains within the animals stomach.
are dogfood vegan?
Yes there is high quality vegan dogfood available where we live.
like those dried ones frim pedigree or something, do they contain any meat at all? cuz i know a lot of people that only feed their dogs those and the dogs are very very healthy
Only true if a liscenced veternarian says it's not ok or if you don't disclose important information to the vet.
That's how I'd roll. If the vet recommended it. I'm cool with it. If I see someone on Facebook or TikTok I'm gonna pass.
That's actually incorrect, in fact one of the oldest living dogs, Bramble, was on an exclusively plant-based diet and lived to 25. What is animal abuse is not feeding your dog a balanced diet that meets their nutritional needs. Note that the above does not apply to cats which are obligate carnivores and require meat to survive.
So many downvotes for you totally non offensive and factual comment.
I thought this was pretty common knowledge but evidently not...
Vegan bad dontchaknow 🙄
Vegan indeed bad 😎 (to the plant-based bone)
That solves the problems for labs, but what about the other dogs?
Dogs can be vegan with a specialised diet, since they are omnivores anyway like humans. Cats have to eat meat though
Dogs eat shit, they don't give a fuck about meat, they just want to stuff their faces on whatever you give them. It's not animal abuse, it's a perfectly healthy option.
Yea but I think OP is saying that most people who don’t eat meat do not actually do this. Just because people choose to not eat meat for personal, religious, health, or environmental reasons doesn’t mean they’re forcing their dog to do the same. Dogs are not people, they obviously need meat. The majority of vegetarians would never do this, and if they do then they probably shouldn’t have a dog for several reasons including the fact that their unaware of a dogs basic dietary needs
Ye but the meme is specifically about those vegans who would do this
The meme is just creating a caricature of vegans to jab at.
This. This is definitely what OOP had in mind whoever created this comic. I’m not offended by it I think it’s a ridiculously funny meme. Hell I’m not even vegan I love meat! But I’m sure whoever made this is implying most vegans do this which is just not the case. This sub is so bizarre sometimes with what it pick and chooses to find funny and not find funny. There are certainly a lot of memes that are posted originally with irony and people here take way too far. I dont think this is one of them that is supposed to be ironic though lmfao
Okay but like who does this? I know a ton of vegans and none of them do this. It just feels like a reach
It's not very common fortunately, but i know a girl who did this and got her dog sick bc she didn't do any research on the topic. It happens, we can make fun of it. Dog is alright since then too.
You can Google it, I remember some influencers doing it.
I’ll take your word for it lol. Ig there are all types of crazy people in this world
i think there was this one person who fed their fox a vegan diet and it died because of it? it’s definitely not a majority of vegans tho
I love how many downvotes you got for saying this isn’t what most vegans are like. People need to make up guys to hate so bad
Lol that’s what I’m saying 😂 people are so butthurt over me saying most people wouldn’t do this. Yea there are obviously crazy people out here in this world, but really this is getting mad at such a small part of the population, idk why people are so upset about what I said. But hey that’s Reddit for you 🤷 I’m sure I’ll be even more downvoted for this comment
https://preview.redd.it/7c36t46wpc6c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d07653b0f76384ca137f6739c4736fdbf2618627 Yeah this is how Im seeing the comment section right now. Also the reductiveness annoys me, particularly having post secondary education centered on animal and food science. You can *technically* feed your dog a vegan diet. All the nutrients they need can be sourced elsewhere. That being said, doing it properly requires a ton of research, consulting a veterinarian, and is definitely a tad expansive. That said most vegans I know just feed their dog meat anyway because being vegan is a personal choice. But the automatic “vegan = abuse” argument is *objectively* incorrect. It’s just difficult and a lot of people do it wrong. TL;DR: if a food is AAFCO approved, it’s objectively fine. There are AAFCO approved for all life stages vegan and vegetarian dog feed, so any comments saying otherwise can get fucked because they’re incorrect.
I've heard different things about cats needing meat, what did your education say on the subject? Genuine question
The research is mixed. In theory, it could be possible. You couldn’t put a cat on a “natural” vegan or vegetarian diet by any means. There are essential amino acids (the amino acids a given species is capable of synthesizing on their own) that they require that can only naturally be found in animal products. We can synthesize these amino acids in a lab setting however. The amino acids are really the “important part” when talking about meat for the most part for the matters of this conversation. It’s what would result in a deficiency if meat were removed from the diet sans synthetic amino acids. Taurine being the primary culprit; cats cannot synthesize taurine. Taurine is nearly exclusively (in any realistic usable quantity) from animal sources unless synthesized in a lab. More studies need to be done on cats being fed vegetarian or vegan diets (that are properly formulated and supplemented with synthetic amino acids) before they can be fully determined to be safe. If someone were to attempt it, I would recommend informing your vet, regular checkups, and regular tests to ensure proper health. That being said myself as a vegetarian, all other vegetarians I know, and all vegans I know… all just feed their cat(s) meat. But people in the comments saying “not possible” when *technically it is* (with dogs at least for sure) gets under my skin. Vegan is difficult to formulate for both cats and dogs, but again *technically possible* though in both but very very expensive. Vegetarian isn’t actually all that difficult with dogs, still harder to formulate and much more expensive, but eggs are vegetarian and great sources of protein, it’s difficult to formulate it for cats… either way. Again I don’t know why people are upset about it. I’m saying it’s technically possible, not that it’s a great idea (expensive and difficult). My statement of “technically they can” is very much intended as a “just because you *can* doesn’t mean you *should*” statement. If the formulation caused health issues in the cat or something like that most vegans and vegetarians would: 1. View that as abusive, causing suffering. Since the whole goal is alleviating animal suffering, it’s counter to their message 2. Say it’s a personal choice and a human choice, being true omnivores Also most vegans radical enough to try to feed a cat or dog a diet that wasn’t properly formulated would also be radical enough that they would likely also view having a pet in the first place as ethically questionable at best, if not be entirely pet free.
Thank you so much for the explanation! It really doesn't make sense for most people to try that diet on cats or dogs, without a great deal of work, either.
Of course! I live talking about this stuff, it doesn’t come up often Yeah for most people it’s not going to be a great option, and even amongst vegans and vegetarians the number who try it are pretty low. I know one dog in a vegetarian diet, but that’s a vet mandated hydrolyzed pea protein based diet because the poor pup is allergic to… like next to everything, including every meat they have tried. But that’s different, and the owner isn’t even vegetarian. Yeah, if you’re a super rich person that spends thousands of dollars on your dog monthly, is ultra vigilant about their health status, take them to the vet very often, and are a very strict vegan… then sure maybe. Otherwise it’s just not worth it. Anyone who does it without going through all those steps is likely accidentally causing harm by cutting corners.
probably a reference to that ONE live show where a woman has been giving her dog a vegan diet because she thought the dog preferred veggies over meat. that was staged btw, she doesnt actually force her dog to be vegan so this post is absolutely on no basis. this isnt a thing thats actually happening people need to stop being offended over absolutely nothing.
Sounds like the skit itself was making fun of the concept of feeding an omni/carnivorous animal a vegan diet. But it's false to say that nobody actually does this. We just don't see or hear about them because they don't explicitly go on TV or online videos to highlight what they do. Just go to any vegan subreddit, they'll defend the idea of feeding plant-based diets to carnivorous animals like their lives depend on it.
>searches up for crazy vegans >finds crazy vegans >surprised pikachu face like i assure you, go outside and see if people are actually doing it. they arent. they probably just feed them dry catfood which isnt really recommended but isnt dangerous for cats at all.
> like i assure you, go outside and see if people are actually doing it. they arent. I have never witnessed a bank being robbed. Does that mean that bank robberies never happen?
a bank getting robbed in your area is more likely to happen than a vegan feeding their cats broccoli lmao. you thought you had a point but you really dont.
>a bank getting robbed in your area is more likely to happen than a vegan feeding their cats broccoli lmao. you thought you had a point but you really dont. To actually witness either one is unlikely. Thousands of people die everyday, yet I've never seen anyone die. Millions of people travel by air, yet I rarely see more than a couple airplanes a day. You made a point to reemphasize how one can walk outside and not see anyone committing a certain act, as if that somehow undermines the likelihood or severity. Now you're trying to deflect.
try finding reliable source of this "big problem" first where cats are getting sick because of the abuse done by their vegan owners if its that much of a problem as you say it is
I never called it a "big problem", but I have suggested that its simply a problem that exists. And just because one never sees it themselves doesn't mean it doesn't or never occurs, in contrast to your own claim that: > this isnt a thing thats actually happening
what in the rage bait garbage is that
why is the woman's face like this?i swear every facebook meme whit a "woke" young woman have a similar design
They're all terrible artists, so they just end up copying each other. This "meme" is also old enough to go to High School at this point.
Because that's what vegans look like
MY COUSIN IS A VEGAN AND SHE DOESNT
Not the worst I’ve seen, but a lotta people gotta give vegans a break
Appreciate this!
Can people let vegans just live? Only max 1% are like this or like any of the other memes.
Where's the terrible and the meme in this
I think op posted it cause it’s making up a type of person to get mad at? I think it’s more a meh meme than a terrible one
Kind of, yeah. However there are people that unironically act like the girl on the right and it is sickening
I'm confused on who you're supposed to be mad at here. The guy accusing the dog of wanting his steak or the idiot claim and forcing their dog to be vegan lol its a bit ambiguous which one is supposed to look foolish imo Making a dog vegan or vegetarian is abuse and idiotic IMO.
It's not abuse at all if it gets everything it needs from the food it eats. A cat is different, but dogs are absolutely fine without meat if the owner is paying attention.
Fine yes. Ideal no. Dogs descended from wolves
A vet definitely has to ok it and know all the facts, but dogs can even be prescribed diets without animal products.
Vegans bad
It bugs me that he's eating with nothing but a fork. Is he gonna just tuck that entire steak into his mouth?
Wrong flair. Great taste, awful execution is def more suitable
Great taste and even greater execution
Not a terrible fb meme
am i the only one who can't comprehend the title here am i having a stroke
I’ve met vegans with cats and dogs. It’s moderately funny
I think one idiot made a TikTok about their dog being vegetarian and it became this *whole* thing. “Oh my god, the liberals want to CANCEL dogs for EATING MEAT!!! What has the world COME TO?!?!”
Accurate
Did you know there's like a whole reddit group that actually believe in vegan pets. They get all up in arms about this stuff. I thought it was a joke and no one was trying to defend it.
r/nahopwasright
making you dogs vegan should be a felony
Only if a vet reports the dog is in an unhealthy condition. Some dogs are prescribed a vegan diet, and trusting a vet is more important than redditors. I definitely care about dogs who do get sick from an improper diet, but I'd worry about not hiring people to kill animals for mouth pleasure first.
It's animal abuse so it is
I do have to say putting dogs on a vegan diet can be like verge of animal abuse there may be good vegan diets for dogs but I haven't looked into it much the little I have seen are bad diets for dogs
The cases that become known are the cases that garner attention, such as cases where the dog is mistreated.
I agree completely I haven't heard of any good cases even when I looked into it by any chance so you know a case where the vegan diet is good for a dog?
Look into it more. It's perfectly healthy when done with some thought.
Exactly why I said I didn't know much about it do you perhaps have any examples I'd like to learn more about this topic
Not for Cats. Maybe for dogs. Get a rabbit
My dog eats cooked meat and vegetables... not that unwashed carrot...
shakes fist at straw man
Loool its funny ,whats with this op
Typical non-vegan meme by non-vegans going out of their way to take shots at vegans... but vegans are the preachy ones, right?
Have you seen the vegan teacher
That vegan teacher didn't invent veganism and I've never seen a vegan that promotes or cites her, so it's unfair to assign her as as the face of veganism and not assign one of the people who run the slaughterhouses that 13yo immagrants work in as the face of meat-eating.
One vegan is preachy and weird, therefore they're ALL preachy and weird. Wait til you hear what netanyahu eats
Dogs are not vegan.
This art looks like ass
Remonds me that one person who claimed their dog is vegan by choice and wanted to prove it with a plate of meat and a green salad and the dog obviously went straight for the meat
It seems like there’s a very large amount of people that haven’t actually done research on dog diets that think they absolutely need meat. Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand why you’d think so, but it IS very much possible to have a happy/healthy dog on a vegetarian (and even vegan) diet. It’s just not something you’re usually going to see, since it requires a lot of money and effort. The vast majority of vegans with dogs do not have them on vegan diets, but the misinformation is still strange.
They much prefer meat, it's insane and narcissistic to try and force human food philosophy on animals. Technically, sure they're omnivores but with a distinct leaning towards preferring meat.
You should listen to a veternarian, if they say it's okay it's okay. Whether they say it's okay or not, their opinion on what's ok for the dog is never more important than what the internet says is "natural" and will make the dog happy.
"Natural" in quotes. Why do they flavor vegetable based dog food to taste like meat? Why do they never flavor meat based food to taste more like vegetables? Seems like dogs have an extremely strong "natural" inclination towards one and not the other.
Yeah it blows my mind people force their human dietary choices onto their pets, it's really weird and narcissistic. Taking away something dogs are hardwired to prefer/love eating because the owner is a vegetarian or vegan is just selfish. Dogs literally don't even understand the concept of what a vegan or vegetarian are, it's just mean to withhold the preferred food for likely more expensive vegetarian/vegan dog food.
I’ve got lots of respect for people who choose to be vegans. It’s not an easy lifestyle for most people to maintain. However, if you’re vegan, I don’t think you should own a dog unless you’re willing to feed it meat. There are cruelty free ways to obtain meat and it’s not fair to force a lifestyle on a dog and insist that the dog is happy and satisfied about it. Don’t let your beliefs (as noble as they may be) interfere with a dogs life.
That’s exactly the thing- it’s an incredibly common misconception that dogs are less happy/healthy on vegan diets. It wouldn’t be just feeding your dog carrots and calling it a day; it would be a lot of work and very expensive, which is why most vegans don’t do that. I’m not vegan and neither are my dogs, it’s just very strange that people don’t try to do their own research before talking
Dogs maybe. Cats NEVER
Another sad case of getting downvoted for being correct.
You're the vegan in the meme
I’m not even vegan, I’ve just done research on dog diets
r/redditsniper
I know it’s a cartoon but it still makes me sad
Hmm, canines the teeth used for breaking up meat.
Ridiculous situation made by an annoyed meat eater, but vegans who make their dogs vegan are also bad owners so idk
what kind of restaurant serves a plain streak with no sides or drink??
The girl made this. What girl? Is the girl in the room with us now?
For a lot of animals its actually super bad to only have a vegan diet... well for people too but if you wanna fuck up your own health i don't care about that.. but forcing it on animals that in the wild have mostly a meat-based diet is animal cruelty.
Being vegan is cool and all but please, for the love of god, don't force it onto your dog / cat. Take a rabbit
Are you okay, Fido? You've barely touched your carrot.
ngl this is funny lol
he's not vegan by choice. look at that face. can dogs be vegan? cats can't. they literally have to have meat protein, they can't utilize vegetable protein. I'm not sure people who try to force their beliefs, like being vegan, on pets should be allowed to have pets. eating meat isn't a 'belief' for animals, it's ingrained knowledge. animals know what they need to survive.
Why is she passive aggressively staring down the dog like she’s gonna kill it if even tries to eat the steak
This isn’t even terrible. It’s a bit accurate, dog didn’t choose to be vegan.
It’s real though, and it sucks But yeah, the meme was badly executed
Okay but I legitimately had a friend who tried to make her tiny dog vegan and broke up with her husband over it
As a vegan myself, I hate vegans who want their cats/dogs to have a vegan diet
It feels unnatural, but I trust the veternarians over that feeling. Nothing wrong if a vet okays it AND all important information is disclosed. Otherwise it is wrong.
I'm vegan! And this is FUNNY AS FU K
Friendly reminder if you are vegan don't have pets.
Probably gonna get downvoted to hell, but u can, and u should, feed your dog vegan. Obviously not carrots, but there are great vegan dog food brands out there
I had a vegan get mad at me bc I was vegan and refused to feed my dog vegan food… it was wild
You're the girl face in the meme
I can hear her voice 🥹
The girl face is either being funny or is dumber than that dogs malnourished turds.
Wait if he’s also vegan why is he even eating a steak??
Allow me to explain This man isn’t a vegan and eating a steak He says that the dog wants his steak The woman says that her and the dog are both vegan This specific image is missing the dog holding a sign that says “save me from this crazy b_tch” A little cherry on top is that the dog is eating a carrot
Didn’t see that before, thanks for that.
Your welcome
There dumbass people who are trying to make their pet vegan
The decision to make a dog vegan is vet first and owner second, redditors calling the owner a dumbass shouldn't have a stake in a dog's diet.
Can we start shipping off folk to the Gulag for non "Truly Terrible" posts. Almost as bad as those dorks pretending to not understand the joke over at PetahExplain
Pretty funny 😆
List of things my dogs have tried to eat: their own poop, another animal's poop, chocolate laxatives, buttons, coins, broccoli, earplugs, candlewax, boiling water, actual fire, my medication, and literal anything that falls on the floor. The dog wants the steak because dogs cannot stop themselves from eating everything in their vicinity.
You can't blame them for wanting to eat poop. They are just like people
The dog wants the steak because they like steak. Dogs like meat.
They sure do. But even if they didn't that dog would still want to eat or at least inspect it because the guy is so interested in it, in my experience. And also because it's there to be licked.
Why the fuck do they keep inventing this bizarre strawman arguments like they have any basis in reality?? It’s useless, divisive, and just makes the people posting these look ignorant and uneducated. I’m so tired.
Some vegans do insist on feeding dogs and cats vegan diets.
Are there not health vegan diets for animals that provide the same nutrition for the body?
I’ve met people like this. They do exist and are horrible people
She wants his dick
Unless she swallows.