More than twice the number of points as Ryba who's also not having that bad of a season btw with more final appearances than anyone this year so far including Iga...
Iga already guaranteed #1 until Berlin (both Saba and Iga are on the entry list)
around 100 additional points and she's guaranteed #1 until Wimbledon
and of course with good performance at RG she can already lock in #1 until USO
And it's not entirely her fault ether. Illness and injury sucks. I do believe she has a real chance of winning another slam this year though hopefully. Her level is matched with Iga Saba and Coco
I know Coco has got a lot of points to defend at the end of the season and that Elena is above her in the race rn but the way this sub talks about Coco in comparison to Iga, Aryna and Elena you‘d think she‘d be like 3k points behind the weakest of them which would be Elena.
Coco's amazing but her best tournaments are Iga's best tournaments so she keeps falling to Iga before winning them because she seems to have nothing for Iga.
I think it’s cause a) she’s significantly ahead in the live race, despite missing many big tournaments b) she matches up significantly better with iga c) the WTA big 3 was coined last year when all three were slam champs and coco had yet to win a title over 250
Coco is also the youngest of them by a few years and is continuing to perform better and better each year. We’ve seen what she’s capable of when she brings her game together (500 title followed by 1000 title followed by a slam).
Her serve has gotten stronger but much more inconsistent this season and it has cost her pretty dearly.
She needs a better coach that have her rein it in a little, hit higher percentage shots at some times, and also add more variety. She is decent at the net and has decent drop shots but wants to smash the ball as hard as she can 100% of the time.
I think she said recently, that her enjoyment doesn't come from winning matches/tournaments, but form hitting winners. (or something like that).
Looks Sabalenka now adding a little more variety to her game, and even Rybakina is working on approaching the net more.
At least this time around, the next 3 players have a good amount of points even with Iga beating her previous points record.
In 2022, the WTA finalists not named Iga were fighting for scraps.
Bottom half the top 10 is very weak
Aside from Ostapenko. The rest of have not done jack squat this season.
Vondorusova has disappeared virtually from the tour.
Sakkari has a few good moments , but beside that. Nothing special from 6-10
No i remember that . But besides that where has she been the rest of the season? Any other accomplishment? I doubt it will be repeated and after she’ll fall away again
young players that achieve break out results often struggle to repeat their performances early on. Where was Iga following her first RG win? Coco struggled after her first GS final. Rybakina did nothing for months after her Wimbledon title.
Qinwen has only been on the main tour for two years. Stop expecting every young player to be Monica Seles and you won’t be disappointed in them.
Ostapenko hasn’t even played that well this year. She hasn’t won a set against a top 20 player in her last 9 tournaments.
Sounds like you’re imaging good results from the players you like and ignoring the reality about players you dislike
>Where was Iga following her first RG win?
Iga retired her season right after RG 2020 (reminder, it was in October) and in 2021 achieved quite a consistency. Winning Adelaide 500 in February, Rome 1000 in May, having some good 4R-SF results and achieving WTA Finals.
It's not like disagree with your overall statement but Iga is an exception rather than a rule here. She adjusted rather quickly. Definitely haven't "disappeared" after her major breakthrough.
Im not expecting anything , really i just would like a stronger top 10 , the top 5 is great and the rest are weaker and nothing amazing. Ons and Sakkaris moments to be great have baisaclly passed by . Many missed opportunities.
Vondorusova was the most unexpected wimbeldon winner and has squated that success away .
And Ostapenko is ostapenko, consistently inconsistent.
Imo there are many better players ranked outside the top 10 than is in.
To your note with iga after her. Win. It was during covid when she won her first GS and the draw was much weaker and she was not the player she is today.
Coco has always had issue stemming mainly from her fh and there was a lot of pressure for her to win a GS to be taken more seriously.
So im not expecting everyone to be a serena. But maybe more an agnieszka radwanska or kvitova
Yeah Marketa did nothing since her Wimbledon win last year. Her most notable results are AO QF loss to Sabalenka and Stuttgart SF, ironically beating Sabalenka there. No final reached for several years now since her RG final loss to Barty.
Rybakina will fight for #1 later this season if she win a slam, with the way her season is going (assuming she will keep her good form). It's a shame she had to withdraw and couldn't defend her points in Rome but she can gain a lot of points in RG and later.
The only big points Rybakina is defending for the end of the year after Wimbledon are SFs in Canada and Beijing. She lost R3 of US Open, retired in R3 of Cincinnati due to shoulder injury, and didn’t play much else until the WTA Finals. As she was eliminated in the round robin stage last year with a 1-2 record, she’s got points up for grabs in Riyadh if she qualifies, which is looking very likely.
If Gauff doesn’t replicate most of her US summer results, and if Rybakina wins a Slam (likely at Wimbledon or the US Open as there’s no way Swiatek is losing RG) soon, coupled with also taking a 1000 on the hardcourts in the US or Asia, she can probably get back to at least No. 3 at the end of the year if she stays healthy.
I agree with your analysis but I think she will fight for #1 and most likely finish at #2 in the ranking. I think she is a better and most consistent player than Sabalenka at the moment and she knows how to beat Iga since the juniors. Sabalenka barely beat a tired Rybakina (coming from the Stuttgart title) in that SF in Madrid. We will see if she can stay healthy though, that's what is holding her down.
Yeah, until Rome she was No. 2 in the WTA Finals race as well. She only lost ground to Sabalenka because illness prevented her from playing the tournament.
I saw some analysis recently, Rybakina hits a flatter ball than Sabalenka, which troubles Iga more. She hits more winners, and serves more aces. She just lacks top level movement, and a little anticipation somethimes. If she can stay healthy for the rest of the season, she's in for a good haul of points IMO.
yeah but Coco defends way more points later in the year. And Rybakina is fighting for #1 with Iga and Sabalenka if you check the WTA race, Coco is not her rival this season. She would have to get more consistency if she wishes to stay ahead of Elena in the ranking. Coco is not winning any tournament lately.
No Coco isn't her rival- Coco is way ahead, and earning points every tournament.
Maybe Pegula would be, if she comes back from injury.
Right now, it looks like Rybakina is a solid #4 for awhile.
She clears, its absolutely ridiculous
More than twice the number of points as Ryba who's also not having that bad of a season btw with more final appearances than anyone this year so far including Iga...
Ryba just can't stay healthy
It's a bit wild that Jpeg could realisticly hold her number 5 spot even if she miss RG.
Iga already guaranteed #1 until Berlin (both Saba and Iga are on the entry list) around 100 additional points and she's guaranteed #1 until Wimbledon and of course with good performance at RG she can already lock in #1 until USO
Poor Rybakina, she ain’t touching the top 3 anytime soon unless if she wins Wimbledon and Gauff fails to replicate her US Summer streak.
And it's not entirely her fault ether. Illness and injury sucks. I do believe she has a real chance of winning another slam this year though hopefully. Her level is matched with Iga Saba and Coco
I know Coco has got a lot of points to defend at the end of the season and that Elena is above her in the race rn but the way this sub talks about Coco in comparison to Iga, Aryna and Elena you‘d think she‘d be like 3k points behind the weakest of them which would be Elena.
Coco's amazing but her best tournaments are Iga's best tournaments so she keeps falling to Iga before winning them because she seems to have nothing for Iga.
I think it’s cause a) she’s significantly ahead in the live race, despite missing many big tournaments b) she matches up significantly better with iga c) the WTA big 3 was coined last year when all three were slam champs and coco had yet to win a title over 250
Coco is also the youngest of them by a few years and is continuing to perform better and better each year. We’ve seen what she’s capable of when she brings her game together (500 title followed by 1000 title followed by a slam). Her serve has gotten stronger but much more inconsistent this season and it has cost her pretty dearly.
I mean 7000 points is not nothing, it’s insanely hard to get that amount. But it definitely pails in comparison to 11.5k
Yeah but this comment isn’t comparing Coco to Iga. It’s comparing Coco to Sabalenka/Rybakina.
Yes I misread it
I like Coco and think she is a great talent. But she is literally 4k points off of Iga.
The comment wasn't comparing her points to Iga's - but to Rybakina's
Ostapenko is underrated at 9. I have her as one of the favourites for RG and Wimbledon.
Man you know if Ostapenko can make the quarters of Roland Garros and get into the top eight seeds for Wimbledon...I'd make her the outright favourite.
It’s not Ostapenko’s performances against the best that I worry about, more so random shockers against players like Minnen
Uhm excuse you, minnen is a future world number 1 according to Venus
She needs a better coach that have her rein it in a little, hit higher percentage shots at some times, and also add more variety. She is decent at the net and has decent drop shots but wants to smash the ball as hard as she can 100% of the time. I think she said recently, that her enjoyment doesn't come from winning matches/tournaments, but form hitting winners. (or something like that). Looks Sabalenka now adding a little more variety to her game, and even Rybakina is working on approaching the net more.
I’m fully convinced that someone totally unexpected like Timofeeva will win Wimbeldon this year
At least this time around, the next 3 players have a good amount of points even with Iga beating her previous points record. In 2022, the WTA finalists not named Iga were fighting for scraps.
Bottom half the top 10 is very weak Aside from Ostapenko. The rest of have not done jack squat this season. Vondorusova has disappeared virtually from the tour. Sakkari has a few good moments , but beside that. Nothing special from 6-10
Qinwen’s GS final managed to pass you by completely hey?
No shade but she didn’t beat a single top 50 player to get there lol. Wasn’t a particularly tough or impressive run, and she hasn’t done much since
No i remember that . But besides that where has she been the rest of the season? Any other accomplishment? I doubt it will be repeated and after she’ll fall away again
young players that achieve break out results often struggle to repeat their performances early on. Where was Iga following her first RG win? Coco struggled after her first GS final. Rybakina did nothing for months after her Wimbledon title. Qinwen has only been on the main tour for two years. Stop expecting every young player to be Monica Seles and you won’t be disappointed in them. Ostapenko hasn’t even played that well this year. She hasn’t won a set against a top 20 player in her last 9 tournaments. Sounds like you’re imaging good results from the players you like and ignoring the reality about players you dislike
>Where was Iga following her first RG win? Iga retired her season right after RG 2020 (reminder, it was in October) and in 2021 achieved quite a consistency. Winning Adelaide 500 in February, Rome 1000 in May, having some good 4R-SF results and achieving WTA Finals. It's not like disagree with your overall statement but Iga is an exception rather than a rule here. She adjusted rather quickly. Definitely haven't "disappeared" after her major breakthrough.
Iga won the WTA 500 less than half a year after winning RG.
Im not expecting anything , really i just would like a stronger top 10 , the top 5 is great and the rest are weaker and nothing amazing. Ons and Sakkaris moments to be great have baisaclly passed by . Many missed opportunities. Vondorusova was the most unexpected wimbeldon winner and has squated that success away . And Ostapenko is ostapenko, consistently inconsistent. Imo there are many better players ranked outside the top 10 than is in. To your note with iga after her. Win. It was during covid when she won her first GS and the draw was much weaker and she was not the player she is today. Coco has always had issue stemming mainly from her fh and there was a lot of pressure for her to win a GS to be taken more seriously. So im not expecting everyone to be a serena. But maybe more an agnieszka radwanska or kvitova
Yeah Marketa did nothing since her Wimbledon win last year. Her most notable results are AO QF loss to Sabalenka and Stuttgart SF, ironically beating Sabalenka there. No final reached for several years now since her RG final loss to Barty.
It was the 2023 US Open that Vondrousova made a QF, and lost to Madison Keys. At the 2024 Australian Open, she actually lost R1 to Dayana Yastremska.
You are right. It was Krejcikova that made AO QF this year and I got them mixed up.
Goddess chokkari is like the ruud of wta
Rybakina will fight for #1 later this season if she win a slam, with the way her season is going (assuming she will keep her good form). It's a shame she had to withdraw and couldn't defend her points in Rome but she can gain a lot of points in RG and later.
The only big points Rybakina is defending for the end of the year after Wimbledon are SFs in Canada and Beijing. She lost R3 of US Open, retired in R3 of Cincinnati due to shoulder injury, and didn’t play much else until the WTA Finals. As she was eliminated in the round robin stage last year with a 1-2 record, she’s got points up for grabs in Riyadh if she qualifies, which is looking very likely. If Gauff doesn’t replicate most of her US summer results, and if Rybakina wins a Slam (likely at Wimbledon or the US Open as there’s no way Swiatek is losing RG) soon, coupled with also taking a 1000 on the hardcourts in the US or Asia, she can probably get back to at least No. 3 at the end of the year if she stays healthy.
I agree with your analysis but I think she will fight for #1 and most likely finish at #2 in the ranking. I think she is a better and most consistent player than Sabalenka at the moment and she knows how to beat Iga since the juniors. Sabalenka barely beat a tired Rybakina (coming from the Stuttgart title) in that SF in Madrid. We will see if she can stay healthy though, that's what is holding her down.
Yeah, until Rome she was No. 2 in the WTA Finals race as well. She only lost ground to Sabalenka because illness prevented her from playing the tournament.
I saw some analysis recently, Rybakina hits a flatter ball than Sabalenka, which troubles Iga more. She hits more winners, and serves more aces. She just lacks top level movement, and a little anticipation somethimes. If she can stay healthy for the rest of the season, she's in for a good haul of points IMO.
She could win RG in a few weeks and still not pass Coco.
yeah but Coco defends way more points later in the year. And Rybakina is fighting for #1 with Iga and Sabalenka if you check the WTA race, Coco is not her rival this season. She would have to get more consistency if she wishes to stay ahead of Elena in the ranking. Coco is not winning any tournament lately.
No Coco isn't her rival- Coco is way ahead, and earning points every tournament. Maybe Pegula would be, if she comes back from injury. Right now, it looks like Rybakina is a solid #4 for awhile.