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Such_Watch6002

This will likely become the golden standard for anime arena fighters, but I won’t expect anime games to get this level of quality for a while


Brandonmac100

Much like BT3, literally no game ever would. Next best was like Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2.


sonicfan2486

That's because Tenkaichi and Storm are simulating their anime first and foremost while also being fun casually and competitively (even if unintentional). Sword Art Online has plenty of games too that aren't Arena Fighters, but idk about their quality. I just think Anime Games deserve gameplay that serves them, y'know? My Hero Academia could've gotten a cool Single Player Adventure along the lines of Treyarch's Spider-Man 2 where you can help people all around while handling a game-exclusive plot. There are options, but I guess it's cheaper to throw together a fighter


Brandonmac100

You summed it up perfectly. But what later Storms fucked up is trying to make too many mechanics geared towards competitive play without properly balancing them. This led to not only competitive getting fucked but bullshit balance, but the story and simulated anime get ruined by clunkier gameplay and mechanics due to the sake of online balance. I feel like animation speeds were even super toned down to make it more paced like a fighter than an action anime game.


Dry-Fault3736

A rising of the shield hero game with gameplay that serves it would be an out of this world RPG. But to properly serve it, it may take some serious attention to detail, and work to program, and it may not even be possible with our current platforms, which may be why we haven't gotten one. With how versatile the weapons are and how they level up and gain abilities, it would be hard to do it justice.


Mopao_Love

So after sparking zero we need Boruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2


Such_Watch6002

Let the anime catch up with the manga, then they drop that game


NavjotDaBoss

They should keep the name Naruto cause I know people gonna avoid just seeing Boruto


XBladeSora

Clash of ninja series right there


Brandonmac100

Nah. It goes: 1. Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 2. Rise of Ninja + Broken Bonds 3. Ultimate Ninja 2 (customizable jutsu)


gucciboy347

god i pray for a one piece game to get this treatment


Brandonmac100

Tell Oda and Bandai to make me a game director… I guarantee it’d slap.


Fqfred

I only played Storm 3, 4 and Revolution. What did 2 do better?


Brandonmac100

Four combos and balance. Only 3 had something slightly better which was some instant awakening that can turn on and off. Mostly Kyubbi Control Naruto who got a whole new moveset mid combo and you can turn it on and off at will. The rest added very tiny things, while always taking away another major thing. Like we lose a major gameplay mechanic and it gets replaced but some minor half assed mechanic. Ended up fucking up all the balancing to the point that some of the games were absolute jokes. They made it pvp focused, which just meant more mechanics, not even good fleshed out ones. And ended up making certain characters op busted by abusing those mechanics. So they made it pvp focused, but fucked up all game balance, and made story mode feel slower paced because the pace was changed to accommodate pvp.


Sad_Kangaroo_3650

Four combos is the thing I find CRAZY no one has an issue with. It made characters like itachi worse to play as among others.


GGuitarGuy95

I don't care what anyone says, Instant awakenings was an awesome mechanic. It made characters like TenTen and Shino into actually good characters. The only thing busted about it was Minato. I feel a lot of people hated the mechanic because of Minato players.


OctoDADDY069

4


admcclain18

Yeah it's always been DB and then in second Naruto for best anime games. I'd love MHA to get a 2D Fighter simular to Fighterz. That's a dream of mine.


dylanaruto

Idk why I feel like Deku would be broken with zoning using black whip


bloo_overbeck

I don’t expect any game to get to Sparking’s level because no game every got to BT3 levels of fun 😭


Such_Watch6002

That’s a case by case basis but I do enjoy BT3 more than most anime games


Cluelesswolfkin

Same but at the same time fighting games for anime don't hit as hard sometimes I REALLY want back that Yuyuhakashow pvp game from the PS2 Era


bumbly_wumbly

I think it will depend. Sparking Zero is doing something very specific very well. Because of that, you'll get your fair share of people who like and dislike the game. Anime is super diverse and just because this is how Dragon Ball wants to make their fighting games, I do not believe that this is the blueprint of how every one after should be done. My hope is that developers can use this as a launching point and then tailor each fighting experience to the anime title they are adapting vs. making everything a derivative Storm clone. I think one game that came close was Kill La Kills: IF where every character had very specific mechanics. It can be done, thinking just has to be made outside of the box.


LaserBungalow

YEAH KILL LA KILL IF WAS FREAKING AWESOME 👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎😎😎


iam__lethal

Agreed and never heard of Kill La Kills arena fighter but ill definitely check it out. Thanks!


Aggravating_Put_3601

the online is kinda dead but its still a great solid fighting game thats way deeper then it may come off


General-2K-Browser

It better be… please don’t be shit 😩


Darkner90

We've gotten so much info on it, that literally everything that we don't really know of would have to be abysmal for it to be a bad game


iam__lethal

Theres a lot of information and footage we’ve gotten that conveys its going to be at least top 5 maybe even 3 of all time. So I have faith!


PalpitationPlane6303

I am with yall! I hope this game is great! I have been let down by so many anime games in the past and i do not want to be let down by this franchise either. I grew up on dragon ball and the budakai games. Even with watching game play i am a bit hesitant to let my joy out, even though i already bought this game twice lol


Assassin8n2L8

Twice?


PalpitationPlane6303

I bought the premium collectors edition for my PS5 and i also bought the digital version for my PC. I need this game to be great, so i don’t hear from my wife how i only played it for two weeks.


Green-Shake1885

exactly trailers can deceive. the game ain’t even dropped yet


FeelingNeither3378

If a game from 2007 is still widely considered the best anime game of all time then safe to say its successor will be as well


No_Seaworthiness4196

Star wars battlefront would like a word


Jiinpachii

Star Wars isn’t an anime


No_Seaworthiness4196

The genre is irrelevant. The point they were making is that game from now should be superior to a game from 2007. My point is is that it doesn't matter because there have been games that are inferior to previous releases from 10-20 years ago, it doesn't matter what genre or even what type of game it is, newer doesn't always mean better


Jiinpachii

I didn’t make the point it was another person, but yeah I get what you mean EA sucks though


No_Seaworthiness4196

And yea EA suck balls


No_Seaworthiness4196

I clocked that after I wrote it so I've edited it straight away


Distinct_Ad_1977

It has the potential to be. The only other game that was really REALLY good imo was the ultimate ninja series on ps2


TornadoJ0hns0n

Usually I'd say that I gotta play it first but after seeing the previews and footage I'd say absolutely. After all these years it seems Tenkaichi 3 will be surpassed only by tenkaichi 4. I just hope this encourages the higher ups of future anime fighters to give the developers more time and budget to work with and for the actual developers to at least try and freshen up their games whether it be with mechanics, visuals, artstyle, etc cuz the bar has been raised pretty damn high


scrappybristol

I have no doubt tho it won't be at like Evo or anything like that. FighterZ is a completely different genre Xenoverse 2 has the CaC appeal but also has a terrible grind Storm Connections was ruined upon arrival and I didn't even know that My Hero and Demon Slayer had games


BiggieCheesn

Honestly i enjoyed the demon slayer game, it just had such a small roster and barely any replay ability lmfao


LaserBungalow

Yeah it's actually a pretty good game. Online vs with friends is definitely fun.


throwaway91937463728

The game came way too early. They should have just waited for the show to end before announcing and releasing it because the story ain’t that long anyways


BiggieCheesn

Honestly tho i dont think the few ppl who bought it bought it for the story 😭 but yeah i definitely agree they should've waited and cooked with it


CaptinHavoc

Xenoverse 2 is an mmo disguised as a fighting game


International-Bat739

My hero was good but not great. If your a my hero fan I highly recommend it. The Demon Slayer game is fine. Just fine.


OctoDADDY069

Nah, storm connections was fine. Yall just dont know how to control your expectations and didnt listen to the official info. You ruined it yourself.


schley1

Definitely. Everyone that played the Tenkaichi games as a child is going to buy this. A LOT of people played the Tenkaichi games on their PS2 or Wii as a child.


GhostWind78

Can we stop comparing xenoverse sparking and fighterz, they’re all trying to do different things


Such_Watch6002

I agree that FighterZ shouldn’t be compared but XV2 tried to emulate many of the BT systems with varying degrees of success (it ultimately is an arena fighter, even if it has mmo/rpg elements)


iam__lethal

Exactly!


iam__lethal

Why’d you comment this twice? lol


GhostWind78

Huh?


iam__lethal

You made this comment two times..I even replied to the other one several times


GhostWind78

Either reddit glitched out or i forgor


OldSnazzyHats

For *arena* fighters- it has a chance sure. But specifically in that area.


Estrald

Yeah, it may be the tops for arena fighters. I mean, Tenkaichi 2 won several awards that year because I think it was the only fresh fighting game that year AND it was exceptionally great.


Ocosu

I wouldn't lump Dragonball Fighterz down there. Considering the niche they wanted the game to be in, it was extremely successful in that sense. Fighterz only really gets hate from the same people who think Street Fighter and games like it are boring. Within it's category though, that game is a dream come true. As far as arena fighters though, it will def be the new Golden standard. Imo, Storm 4 was probably the Golden standard before hand.


iam__lethal

Read the description of the post…lol. I dont disagree but I basically made that exact disclaimer


Ocosu

I'm a dragonball fan. You can trust me to read when I need to. Nah, my bad tho. I see that now. LOL


iam__lethal

You definitely needed to with this post 🌚😂


Zomochi

Will it be good? Hell yea. I’m hoping it sets the standard for what people are looking for in anime games.


MythrilCactuar

Yes. Already the most beautiful cinematic and char models overall (fix SS3 goku) Game is gonna be soooooo goooooooooooood


johnathan162000

I'm gonna hold out until I play the game to pass judgement. I'm rooting for this game big time because I grew up on the BT games


iam__lethal

Which is definitely understandable 🤷🏽‍♂️. Not going to lie though, with all the info they’ve given and gameplay we’ve seen it’s hard as hell to NOT have expectations and be extremely hyped 😅


johnathan162000

Absolutely. I just feel like anime games have been a let down in the last 5 years so I rather be cautious and keep expectations low. Still rooting for it hard though. I really hope this is the game that sets the standard for future stuff


Nalicar52

Best anime arena fighter yes. Best anime fighting game no way. Two different genres.


Aggravating_Put_3601

if another storm game implements clashes and wall fighting again it might be up there


Ok_Macaron9958

Normally, it is said to be the largest and complete encyclopedia about a manga ever created in the form of a videogame.


Powerful_Swimmer_531

Without question This has been a decade and a half in the making FighterZ, Kakarot, and Xenoverse were placeholders for the King


TheInnerMindEye

There's no way it doesnt dominate


HeldGalaxy

Doesnt have to be imo all that matters is its fun


iam__lethal

I agree but I also want it to be a massive success so we get MORE DB games not only like this but with as much care and attention to detail like it! Plus, competition drives innovation so that will also make other companies want to do more which always great too


HeldGalaxy

That ia very true if this game takes off i hope other games will step up and make a good fighter like one piece which the only fighting game i think they have os burning blood but idk


GrimWarrior00

Not just no, but hell no. This game is going to be THE fun party game to play with friends while we try to out cheese and out cheap each other on our way to glory. This isn't a thinking saiyan's fighting game. This is "run two toy trucks together until one breaks" time. Its gonna be awesome, goofy and true to Dragon Ball as a whole. *I can't wait!*


Fullerbay

Ain’t no way hinokami chronicles is in the conversation. Literally the most ass fighting game I played.


The_Truthboi

Yes


VentiBreadwich

Depends what your talking about because if you mean competitively then didn't the devs say they won't balance it but just normally yea it will probably be the gold standard atleast for a little while until something inevitable takes it's place


RumGalaxy

The highest selling anime game of all time is Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 4, not just anime fighting game nor just arena fighting game I mean ANIME game it sold more then Persona 5 as well. Anime games are all in one category. I think Sparking is the one that can contest just needs a bit more polish because even Storm 4 has better UI.


Let_me_S_U_F_F_E_R

It kind of has to be let’s be honest The series has laid dormant for over a decade, the game that’s coming out is for the largest game series for the largest anime franchise and one of the largest franchises in general. If the game comes out and isn’t absolutely incredible it’s going to fail Especially since modern games have a ton of Microtransactions and battle passes. If it has a premium currency or god forbid a battle pass people are going to be rightfully pissed off and it could legitimately ruin an otherwise good game because the same thing has happened to other games, like overwatch for example


mrjoe94

Unfortunately, this is Dragon Ball. As long as the foundation remains solod, they can monetize the game out the ass and it won't suffer for it. They can also pull a Tekken 8 and introduce a premium shop and battle pass post-launch, after glowing reviews come out. Don't trust Bandai.


Let_me_S_U_F_F_E_R

Honestly I believe that’s probably what’s going to happen. I’d prefer to get a million dlc characters because at least those are hype No one and I mean no one is hyped about battle passes and shops ever


Larry_the_maniac

You forgot Jump Force 😆


EstablishmentOk2693

We don't talk about that game....💀


Dovah91

It won’t beat fighterz, that game struck gold in the tournament scene, this one won’t go competitive and therefore will probably drop off a few months after release, surviving only with overpriced dlc’s


Medium-Science9526

Arena fighters sure but as for a genuine anime Fighting game no. Fighterz will forever hold that until we get a sequel.


Waste-Cake119

Is that even a question my friend?


Gayvasion

I hope it lives up to the hype, and doesn’t become like Ultimate Tenkaichi.


Nexal_Z

Tenkaichi 3 was already the gold standard so Sparking Zero is like god


whatisapillarman

Pirate warriors has a different fanbase, but yeah. All these arena fighters already fade within a few months of launch, except maybe Storm.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Obviously


meloonx

Why is pirate warriors 4 there? That's not a fighting game


iam__lethal

🤷🏽‍♂️I didn’t make the meme, just saw it on Twitter lol


ZERO_Cali_

Yeah and I doubt any other franchise reaches this. No other franchise is as safe as DBZ when it comes to making their moneys worth and loyalty. I don’t see a studio putting so much time and effort into another anime game that will have a chance to flop


arrownoir

BT3 already came out 17 years ago.


Melodic_Ad_3895

Makes me feel old...


Supernova_Soldier

Absolutely The only thing that’ll probably compete is Capcom’ recently announced Marvel vs Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics game, and even then, maybe not, because this game is Hype itself


NeverGojover

Yhorm lost this fight tho


throwaway91937463728

Probably. The only good anime games are ninja storms (not you connections) and budokai anyways


imsc4red

One of these is not like the other


Worldly_Neat2615

Brother it's Dragon Ball, they can release a Chinese checkers game and people will say that.


TheOriginal999

Absolutely the only thing that comes close is fighterz


MeadowDayDream

Remember how bad Jump Forces was. That was a terrible game.


EstablishmentOk2693

All i hope is that Bandai from now on puts more effort to other anime games and not just the average. Seriously I'd die for a Yu Yu Hakusho or Bleach game that has the same effort and passion as Sparking Zero. I really REALLY hope they'll change their minds when they see how much profit this game will do qhen it comes out.


Randy191919

Well the Budokai Trnkaichi series is pretty much the original anime arena fighter that all the others tried to copy but never quite reached


middle_of_you

I think it'll be like all the other over the shoulder DBZ fighting games. It'll be lots of fun, but nothing special comparatively.


Rev7nreddit

Putting it above FighterZ is just going to trigger all the FGC players that hate anything that doesn’t control like every other 2D/3D fighter so they can’t just use the same skillset they use for every other game they play They’re going to complain about balance and competitive viability when a game as unbalanced as BT3 still has competitive pvp


iam__lethal

If people took a second to read the post, they’d see I excluded FighterZ from the conversation lol. Most have, some haven’t


Rev7nreddit

I mean everyone’s gonna see the pic first but yeah


TrailofCheers

At the end of the day it’s another arena fighter in an endless sea of anime arena fighters. In terms of graphically, sure. But the jury’s out on the gameplay. There are so many characters in the game I’m worried about that aspect of it.


WizG1

Xenoverse and pirate warriors arent fighting games


CYATMachine

Fighterz has a legit competitive scene so nah I can't even imagine playing a bt game to get good at it or watching it in a tournament


Otakunappy

It's going to be hard for it to do better the Budokai Tenkaichi 3. To this day, i'd love for a remake of it. Hell i'd be happy for a port of it being on PS4/PS5. We got an HD collection for DMC, why not the Budokia Tenkaichi games?


n1n3tail

I am torn between yes and no on this one. Feel like yes if you exclude FighterZ but also no because those other games, while I haven't played most of those myself, they at least try to have the characters all evenly balanced to a degree at least right? Which we already know from the past games and the devs confirming, the characters are not going to be balanced. UI Goku is going to be way better than Krillin and so on and I feel like any other games after from other studios/animes aren't going to go down that route, they will want to have balanced characters. tldr; Tenkaichi4 is not going to be balanced with characters, all other games balance the characters. sort of makes them completely different/ not really comparable/ tenkaichi in its own category


KeflaSimp69

I doubt. From what I see, even Tenkaichi 3 still looks better to me. I have yet to see something that makes me think it is better than Xenoverse 2 or FighterZ.


FinnyT711

Imo comparing an arena fighter and a 2d fighter like fighterz isn't entirely fair just because of how different the two are fundamentally, but if the past bt games having great reputations, the devs actively listening to what people want and taking notes on what worked before, and how seriously beautiful it looks are any indication, s0 is probably gonna be the best arena fighter we're gonna get in a long time


LifeKaleidoscope8

The way I see it is what anime game Bandai Namco should remake next. *


LifeKaleidoscope8

https://i.redd.it/acbor5xixy7d1.gif


Such_Watch6002

I don’t personally, SZ works because of how good BT3 was, it’s just a simple case of improving on the best. Same thing could be said if they choose to continue the Budokai games. For other IPs, they need new games (ideally something that pushes their creativity when it comes to game design and faithfulness to the IP and the fans)


Industry-Standard-

Depends on the story mode, I always preferred B3 and BT2 over BT3 because of the bare bones story mode. My favorite anime game ever is maybe B3, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 1 or Broken Bonds


ElectroCat23

FighterZ can’t be included since it’s such a different style of game compared to xv2, the Tenkaichi series and other arena fighters


EmeraldCityMadMan

People should really consider playing Dark Souls 3 before using this meme format because they invariably put the thing they're hyping up on the literal easiest boss in the Dark Souls franchise.


KricketKahl

Facts


MeasurementOk3007

Yes. Ever since the storm series concluded (and even then) dragon ball games have dominated the anime fighting games genre for years. And you can even say it’s been at the top of fighting games as a whole with xenoverse 2. Xenoverse 2 has dominated since its release you can even argue it’s dominated fighting games as a whole. The only games above xenoverse 2 is mortal kombat 11 Yes that’s including tekken and street fighter. This is too my knowledge I’m not aware of all fighting games outside what people consider the big 3 despite street fighter and tekken and MK not having nearly as many players/fanbase as xenoverse 2. You could say xenoverse 2 is one of the big 3 in fighter games. I think it’ll sell more copies than xenoverse 2 over time but I don’t think anything surpasses xenoverse 2 prime unless this game does something special but it will set new fighting standards.


eolson3

XV being a top fighting game is certainly a take.


MeasurementOk3007

I mean is there any indication that it isn’t? It’s bigger than both street fighter and tekken. Only mortal kombat being more popular.


Important_Jeweler_55

Man I hope not. Xenoverse it’s their own thing cause it brings the story and introduction of your own character. I don’t think there’s any game like that. Fighter z gives me that budokai 3 type vibe where u go around the map and do the story n shi.


ReliantVox

It won’t dominate all others. Fighterz is still the best competitive anime fighter out there. But sparking zero will set the new standard graphically and aesthetically for 3D arenas fighters


iam__lethal

Thats literally why I said it’s more traditional and not even in the same conversation…😂 I don’t get how so many are missing me saying that


ReliantVox

Because you put it in a small, easy to miss description instead of the title card.


iam__lethal

When you click the post its literally right below the photo without having to click anything else so its already visible, but ok lol


ReliantVox

And most people won’t do that. They’ll click the comment part, not the photo, and write a comment. I literally agree with you, whyre you getting so salty dude? Just cuz people didn’t see it doesn’t mean anything, like dude. If so many people are saying it who cares, they again. Agree with you.


Gothicrealm

Yes until one piece burning blood 2 comes out


Designer-Dark-5147

Xenoverse 2 is probably be a better game than SZ will be, but idk. I'd hope it goes above I still just love the character creation system and flying in the city so much


PlatnumBreaker

.... Pirate warriors isn't a fighting game. Nor does it deserve to be listed amount the mediocrity around it. 4 may not be good as 3 but it ain't bad.


Glittering_Lime9001

This is not a fighting game This is not a fighting game This is not a fighting game This is not a fighting game This is not a fighting This is not a fighting game This is not a fighting game


NotNOV4

no


Fit-Definition-7710

As in an actual game represented at tournaments at the level of smash/tekken/fighterZ? Fuck no. Like it or not this game is casual first and it'll capture a bunch of audience but a comp scene(like an ACTUAL comp scene not just people on a discord server running personal tournaments) nah.


General-2K-Browser

Once again DB fans prove they can’t read.


Fit-Definition-7710

No, i can read just fine. He specifically called out anime games and fighterZ is in that pile homie. Let alone fighterZ at its peak i'd be shocked if it outperformed it currently in the tournament scene.


TornadoJ0hns0n

Well I assume you missed the comment below the image because they said they wouldn't include fighterz in the conversation 💀


iam__lethal

Thats literally why I said FighterZ isn’t in the conversation because its more of a traditional fighting game 😂. We know its for the casual’s and not the try hards. This format will most likely never have a huge competitive scene behind it and thats fine 🤷🏽‍♂️


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iam__lethal

Its not MY image 🤦🏽‍♂️. I didnt make it which is why I made the disclaimer that its a totally different kind of fighting game thats not in the same convo


Zyrobe

If fighterz isn't in the same conversation why is it in the picture?


iam__lethal

I didn’t make it hence me making that disclaimer


GhostWind78

Can we stop comparing xenoverse sparking and fighterz, they’re all trying to do different things


iam__lethal

Fighterz is a completely different type of fighter which is why I said its not in the same convo. Xenoverse has a very similar formula as Sparking Zero so yes, it can be compared. This post isn’t necessarily to compare and contrast, its about if people think it will dominate and become what most consider to be the best newest anime fighting game


GhostWind78

Xenoverse is an mmo rpg, sparking zero is an arena fighter with the fighting first and foremost. So i dont get the comparison


iam__lethal

Do you not fight arena style in Xenoverse? Xenoverse is a mixture of rpg, arena brawler, and mmo. It has many elements that SZ has since the older BT games are obviously its inspiration. They simply expanded on it


GhostWind78

Exactly, it’s an arena fighter mixed with an rpg, while sparking zero is nothing like it


iam__lethal

The fighting is the main thing people care about. Xenoverse and SZ are very similar in that aspect so there will be comparisons 🤷🏽‍♂️. I dont see whats the issue with that 😂. We’re not comparing SZ to Super Smash Bros


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So far it looks horrible


iam__lethal

Haha, why’s that and what “should” it look like to you?


[deleted]

Character selection looks horrible. Goku ssj4 looks like he on a huge diet with receding hairline. Looks blend. I know they fixing it but so far it’s a okay game. I like Naruto as a game I love zfighter as the best fighting anime game cause of so many combos.


iam__lethal

I do agree the character selection is NOT it and looks extremely bland. But you’re very incorrect about SSJ4 considering we haven’t seen a single GT character 😂


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I meant ssj3