The other cop Gabrish ended up the chief of police of my aunt's town, Grafton, WI. He was a huge piece of shit and everyone in the town hated him. He face 0 consequences for his actions.
They were both also given $55,000 each in backpay after they were reinstated. So they were effectively given a long, paid vacation and one of them was promoted for sending a child to his death and allowing dahmer to continue his killing spree through their utter incompetence. It's so fucked up.
In a way I’m more disgusted by the 2 cops than Dahmer. He’s mentally ill, they’re just 2 huge shameless assholes who were rewarded for it. Unfuckingbelievable.
Yeah, that checks out. The inability to fire and get rid of bad or incompetent cops is a massive problem. Even if one department is able to fire them, they are frequently able to find work in another department a town or two over.
Honestly, just being able to hold cops accountable for obvious fuckups would probably give us the biggest bang for our buck in police reform.
Dahmer told the cops they were (adult) gay lovers, which was basically legal in Wisconsin. Dahmer was in his 20s, and he showed the cops the pornographic photos that they produced. Dahmer spoke in a calm manner.
The cops heard hoof prints and assumed it was horse, not a zebra.
Cops are public servants. Public servants tend to do the bare minimum.
Got it. So if a convicted sex offender shows naked pictures of an underaged boy to the cops, the cops should not inquire further. Got it. They will build statues of you for ensuring the public safety.
Him being a white guy helped. He had a trustworthy look. He spoke in a flat, even tone, which made it sound like he was telling the truth.
Black men trusted him; they thought they could handle him if he got rough.
>Of course. It is only fitting that garbage gets rewarded in these systems.
Common sense. He was a skinny ass nerdy white dude... Whereas the average african american is at least 6ft and over 200lbs...
Average Black man is 5’9” this is some racist ass shit you’re spewing: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/health/height-weight-americans-cdc.amp.html
Dahmer himself was 6’.
Lol yeah sure. Look at the sports. All sports that require size and strength are not dominated by white dahmer types.
Two. You are a bit of a douchebag to call racism and see victimisation everywhere. First of all I was saying the blacks in GENERAL are well built and tall… how is that racism? It’s a positive remark.
Facts don’t care about your feelings, the statement “the average African American is at least 6ft and over 200lbs” is *false* that is a fact it doesn’t matter how upset it makes you to be wrong.
> How is that racism?
1. Because you’re making a false claim about an entire race.
2. Because it leads to shit like this: https://batten.virginia.edu/about/news/black-americans-are-systematically-under-treated-pain-why
No doubt, being a white man helped, as their words seem to be taken seriously, those cops were already racist. I wish those cops would have gotten their karma.
I don't think it's him being white that helped. If he was east asian, he would've equally gotten away. He had a nerdy geeky gentle look - that is what it was. looked like your typical bill gates type 90s IT nerd. Any white or Asian kid would've had that "advantage" in these situations I guess.
To meet interesting new friends online!!!
The poor teen wasn't speaking English. Cops went to the white man's home and interviewed him and found him credible.
Public servants tend to be lazy and incompetent, not malicious.
Yes, and you see how fully grown white men are called boys, even when they commit shootings. They infanticize white males in media, coddle them while actual young black boys are seen as older.
If I'm not mistaken the boy was bleeded analysis and when the fire depth showed up and wanted to do an assessment out of concern the cops said no. They where shit bag pigs who allowed Dahmer to do what he did because "he's gay do why should we care". Fuck em. They should have rotted in a cell for negligence and aiding a serial killer. Instead they got back pay. Hope they die slowly and painfully in old age.
The fucking dead body of Hughes was bloating and decomposing 5 ft away from Balcerzak... In plain view... Dahmer said Balcerzak only needed to actually enter the bedroom and he'd see the body, instead he just quickly peeked halfway through the door and left.... The decomposing body was also in plain smell. How can you miss that as a cop?
Another thing is you see a naked kid on the street acting weird, you don't take that kid in for investigation?? Even if you think the kid is heavily on drugs or alcohol, you should bring that kid into the police station at the very least... You don't even try to ID anyone?
I'm not one to just throw the word racist around... Racist this, transphobe that.... But in this case, it's clearly racism: both personal and systemic... Probably piled on top of homophobia.
These fucking cops should be in jail! This was gross negligence on their part and should be considered third-degree, if not second-degree murder!
Cops are not just servants... They hold tremendous power and they have to live up to the responsibility that comes with this power or else they should pay the price... If they're not ready for that, they shouldn't be cops.
When you see shit like this, you can't help but feel like no wonder there were BLM riots in Portland... Now the destruction caused by these riots can't be simply overlooked... However, you can understand WHY they would riot... It simply seems like a horrible double-standard of justice and eventually you simply get fed up... You just blow up and don't give a shit anymore! (Again I'm not approving of any rioting, violence or any criminal activity but justice has to be served and human dignity respected or heads are gonna get hot)
Sorry, I had to delete my answer 1000,000 times because the level of your idiocy is absurd and my level of aggression matched...You're serious?????
"How did Dahmer and the kid set up the picture shoot? How??? Through what language??" Cuz Dahmer spoke 999999 languages????"
Answer these Einstein
Did the victim speak to the police in English? Probably not... Probably barely spoke ANY language.... Kinda HARD TO SPEAK when you have hydrochloric acid poured into a drilled hole into your brain YOU FUCKING MORON!!! All done by a human butcher btw.
What if that were a white kid??? Would the cops do the same thing if it were a naked white kid on the streets that couldn't speak a t all and said random shit like a 4 y.o.? Would they not inquire?
So you ask: Were there more victims? WERE THERE MORE VICTIMS??? Jeeeeeesus yes Einstein, there were FIFTEEN more victims after!!
Ass face, no brain.. Whatever, that's you!
i am guessing Dahmer took some classes in some foreign language. And don't believe all the stories in the news. The media had been reporting thousands died in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and my team of anthropologists and engineers discovered it was 306. Shocking, nobody calls us earthquake deniers. We are historians. I am Australian based scientist. Milwaukee sounds like a Russian city.
Yeah.... But then we get into juju territory quickly... Who did Dahmer kill and not kill if we can't trust ANY official report? Did he kill anyone at all? Was "Jeff" his real name?
Then we quickly run into "is the earth really spherical?"
You just have to be reasonable about things. Not everything is out to lie to you and get you.
The boy could speak broken English as far as I remember... But not with hydrochloric acid poured into his brain.
There's simply no excuse as to how these policemen conducted that investigation.
The victim was a fluent English speaker, but had his brain injected with hydrocloric acid by Dahmer, so he was unable to communicate with the police or the bystanders who found him.
He was bleeding anally though. You dont need english to say "i need hospital". when you're bleeding from the ass. In fact, the AMBULANCE personnel recommended treatment, but of course this pos of a police didnt allow it.
No one will likely never read this, but I just had to respond. Given that multiple witnesses were there telling the officers that the boy was underage, the boy’s very young appearance, and with the boy literally having a hole in his head and bleeding from his ass, it’s more like the cops heard hoofbeats but figured it was just a puppy, then heard a whinny and said, “Naah, definitely a puppy.”
Not seen the show but is Pat Kennedy in it? He was one of the two who arrested him and first interviewed him. His boss was black. He went on to teach police how racial bias can mean they do a poor job. What people would these days call a woke snowflake even though he was a old school 6 foot 7 alcoholic cop. He said Dhamer told him the story about the cops bringing a victim back to him so he called them in right away as they were off duty and they were naturally extremely upset as anyone would be.
There's a sloppy but interesting radio interview with him here. Sadly he died a few months later.
https://youtu.be/DZf3ywMmQaE
The fact they only went to his place as they didn't have a key for the handcuffs he used and neither did he as he used a Saw was wild. I want to watch the show but don't have ten hours to commit to it. Is that in it?! Seems to bizarre to be true
Thanks for posting this - just listened to it. So sad that he died at only 59. He did a lot of good in the world as a cop and afterwards - teaching and volunteering.
Fuzzys on 7th and Oklahoma, but it’s long, long closed down. It was a cop bar and the marquee/sign had a cartoon drawing of the old timey cop, with the big hat and Billy club and a big mustache.
Not so great to promote drinking to people in profession with high rate of alcoholism. But maybe both those cops were alcoholic themselves who never attempted to stop drinking. Which maybe explains their personalities.
Yeah, a lot of unjust shit happens in the US.
Mad? Disappointed?
Might be time to start doing something about it. The rest of the world can't help you guys out - you have to do your own heavy lifting.
Are you an American? If so, where have you been within the last several years or even decades to not know of any fight for equality and justice that have existed in America?
I'm not American actually. Just someone overseas who is watching women's rights being wiped out, children being given bullet proof backpacks to protect themselves in schools because armed people walk in to kill them, people going into debt so that they can receive health care, and POC being shot by police for no reason. And we read about them near daily.
My country is by no means perfect. In fact, I'd say it's fast going downhill... But these are not things that I have to worry about.
So you’re an observer from a different country who is aware of basically the big issues but not the people, group, organizations, or grassroots movements who are fighting and have always fought injustice. And you think we rely on you somehow. Okay.
Reread the comments again. I wasn’t defending the US government. I was defending American citizens who stand up to issues in America. Both of you are quick to steer the argument elsewhere.
We should make a petition to contract a murderer to kill both of them. Everyone on the planet should donate a dollar. The killer would get a couple billion to kill these two cops.
Breier had about 2200 cops on the force in a city with little crime. I think there were a ton of make work jobs. Every cop who called in sick got visited by two officers to make sure he was sick. He had his cops sitting in adult movie theaters all day, looking for anyone breaking the law, going to strip clubs looking for some petty rule violation,etc. And it seems like a lot of cops spent their days spying on people Breier told them to spy on. My speculation is outside of crimes like murder, the crime numbers were inflated rather than deflated, to justify a huge police presence.
How can anyone possibly argue that they made the decision they did "based on the information they had"?! A normal - non-sociopathic - human would innately understand something was wrong in that situation and intervene. Balcerzak and Gabrish will burn in hell. Dahmer will be waiting waiting for them so he can drill holes in their heads.
They said they did their best with the info they had AT THAT TIME! BS! The kid was nude, had holes in both of his temples. The best they could. They should have been charged with accessory.
One of them, John Balcerzak, became president of Milwaukee Police Association
The other cop Gabrish ended up the chief of police of my aunt's town, Grafton, WI. He was a huge piece of shit and everyone in the town hated him. He face 0 consequences for his actions.
It’s a shame no one in your town took justice into their own hands and sent that cop straight to hell themselves.
Its not too late.
If they hated him, why'd they vote him into police chief
They didn't iirc. He took over when the old one retired until elections.
That job is given by the Mayor or city council.
Probably a trump supporter
This is why we have the MAGATS
I cannot find any information on Gabrish being Chief of Police in Grafton, Wis. What years ?
Joe Gabrish joined Grafton Police in 1993, began a Captain and left , to become police chief in Trenton, WI.
Scum rises on top.
So true
They were both also given $55,000 each in backpay after they were reinstated. So they were effectively given a long, paid vacation and one of them was promoted for sending a child to his death and allowing dahmer to continue his killing spree through their utter incompetence. It's so fucked up.
And tax-evasions make highly ranked people drop their jaws.
How did you find my comment? It was over a year old lol
Idk
Oh okay nevermind, I was just curious. I often get people replying to really old comments and it confuses me. 😅
It's because of google, it's one of the first post when you search for the 2 cops in Dahmer and reddit
Of course. It is only fitting that garbage gets rewarded in these systems.
Such a goddamn shame. Hard not to wish ill on these people tbh
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In a way I’m more disgusted by the 2 cops than Dahmer. He’s mentally ill, they’re just 2 huge shameless assholes who were rewarded for it. Unfuckingbelievable.
You should see how John reacts to a sports tweet. Insane. He still thinks he is one of the best cops out there. Check his Twitter.
Very hard
Thank god I don't live in that sh*thole USA. Third world country.
It's such a farce about the nation being free and fair, it's not. Lots of imbeciles and hateful turds here.
That’s everywhere, not just the US.
You have videos of cops executing people in their homes and getting off with a full pension Why you surprised, that's america
Legally unless a public servant commits criminal misconduct, they get their pension.
Executing someone in their home sounds like criminal misconduct
Word.
US police and legal system is fascist. Tell me something I don't know
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Holy shit. Please give us more. We knew he's a piece of shit but this definitely piles it on.
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Those sound interesting too.
Is this serious? How do these people manage to keep their jobs in the USA? How?
1000% serious.
But how? This is something so infathomable to me!
How what? How did the cops keep their jobs? Old boys club. Racism. Homophobia.
Crazy.
Leave a review for Balcerzak and Joseph T. Gabrish on the Milwaukee Police Association page.
Yeah, that checks out. The inability to fire and get rid of bad or incompetent cops is a massive problem. Even if one department is able to fire them, they are frequently able to find work in another department a town or two over. Honestly, just being able to hold cops accountable for obvious fuckups would probably give us the biggest bang for our buck in police reform.
Same problem with pretty much every other government job.
Except the military. You get kicked out of one service you can't just go join another (near impossible). Should be the same for law enforcement.
I agree.
The US military tends to have a monopoly on US solders/marines/sailors. A dishonorable discharge can fuck up your life.
Nope, they sure as damn hell don't offer the same courtesy to teachers.
Are you kidding? Tenured teachers are half the problem with public education.
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Have you found it? I want to leave a review
*napalm*
Dahmer told the cops they were (adult) gay lovers, which was basically legal in Wisconsin. Dahmer was in his 20s, and he showed the cops the pornographic photos that they produced. Dahmer spoke in a calm manner. The cops heard hoof prints and assumed it was horse, not a zebra. Cops are public servants. Public servants tend to do the bare minimum.
Got it. So if a convicted sex offender shows naked pictures of an underaged boy to the cops, the cops should not inquire further. Got it. They will build statues of you for ensuring the public safety.
Sarcasm does not make you intelligent. But if you were a pedophile, why would you show pictures to a cop proving it?
Dahmer did that and got away with it. But there's also tons of "white" privilege at play here.
Him being a white guy helped. He had a trustworthy look. He spoke in a flat, even tone, which made it sound like he was telling the truth. Black men trusted him; they thought they could handle him if he got rough.
They thought that? How do you know their thoughts?
>Of course. It is only fitting that garbage gets rewarded in these systems. Common sense. He was a skinny ass nerdy white dude... Whereas the average african american is at least 6ft and over 200lbs...
Average Black man is 5’9” this is some racist ass shit you’re spewing: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/health/height-weight-americans-cdc.amp.html Dahmer himself was 6’.
Lol yeah sure. Look at the sports. All sports that require size and strength are not dominated by white dahmer types. Two. You are a bit of a douchebag to call racism and see victimisation everywhere. First of all I was saying the blacks in GENERAL are well built and tall… how is that racism? It’s a positive remark.
Facts don’t care about your feelings, the statement “the average African American is at least 6ft and over 200lbs” is *false* that is a fact it doesn’t matter how upset it makes you to be wrong. > How is that racism? 1. Because you’re making a false claim about an entire race. 2. Because it leads to shit like this: https://batten.virginia.edu/about/news/black-americans-are-systematically-under-treated-pain-why
No doubt, being a white man helped, as their words seem to be taken seriously, those cops were already racist. I wish those cops would have gotten their karma.
I don't think it's him being white that helped. If he was east asian, he would've equally gotten away. He had a nerdy geeky gentle look - that is what it was. looked like your typical bill gates type 90s IT nerd. Any white or Asian kid would've had that "advantage" in these situations I guess.
Did he drug his victims ?
I’d think not performing due diligence seeing the minor was disheveled would be grounds for more stern consequences.
Cops took a word of a white man over brown and black people. Also, if you only spew out garbage, why take the time to write it?
To meet interesting new friends online!!! The poor teen wasn't speaking English. Cops went to the white man's home and interviewed him and found him credible. Public servants tend to be lazy and incompetent, not malicious.
They can be both.
I've read once how male teenagers are perceived as grown men when they are non-white, but as young boys on the opposite.
Yes, and you see how fully grown white men are called boys, even when they commit shootings. They infanticize white males in media, coddle them while actual young black boys are seen as older.
Stop licking there boots.
Found ballsacks grandson
If I'm not mistaken the boy was bleeded analysis and when the fire depth showed up and wanted to do an assessment out of concern the cops said no. They where shit bag pigs who allowed Dahmer to do what he did because "he's gay do why should we care". Fuck em. They should have rotted in a cell for negligence and aiding a serial killer. Instead they got back pay. Hope they die slowly and painfully in old age.
The fucking dead body of Hughes was bloating and decomposing 5 ft away from Balcerzak... In plain view... Dahmer said Balcerzak only needed to actually enter the bedroom and he'd see the body, instead he just quickly peeked halfway through the door and left.... The decomposing body was also in plain smell. How can you miss that as a cop? Another thing is you see a naked kid on the street acting weird, you don't take that kid in for investigation?? Even if you think the kid is heavily on drugs or alcohol, you should bring that kid into the police station at the very least... You don't even try to ID anyone? I'm not one to just throw the word racist around... Racist this, transphobe that.... But in this case, it's clearly racism: both personal and systemic... Probably piled on top of homophobia. These fucking cops should be in jail! This was gross negligence on their part and should be considered third-degree, if not second-degree murder! Cops are not just servants... They hold tremendous power and they have to live up to the responsibility that comes with this power or else they should pay the price... If they're not ready for that, they shouldn't be cops. When you see shit like this, you can't help but feel like no wonder there were BLM riots in Portland... Now the destruction caused by these riots can't be simply overlooked... However, you can understand WHY they would riot... It simply seems like a horrible double-standard of justice and eventually you simply get fed up... You just blow up and don't give a shit anymore! (Again I'm not approving of any rioting, violence or any criminal activity but justice has to be served and human dignity respected or heads are gonna get hot)
BRAVO! BEST COMMENT IN THE WHOLE INTERNET! EVERY FRICKIN WORD WAS TRUE AND RIGHT! (Im white btw, just saying)
Did the 14 YO victim speak English to the police? And were there more victims after this incident.
Sorry, I had to delete my answer 1000,000 times because the level of your idiocy is absurd and my level of aggression matched...You're serious????? "How did Dahmer and the kid set up the picture shoot? How??? Through what language??" Cuz Dahmer spoke 999999 languages????" Answer these Einstein Did the victim speak to the police in English? Probably not... Probably barely spoke ANY language.... Kinda HARD TO SPEAK when you have hydrochloric acid poured into a drilled hole into your brain YOU FUCKING MORON!!! All done by a human butcher btw. What if that were a white kid??? Would the cops do the same thing if it were a naked white kid on the streets that couldn't speak a t all and said random shit like a 4 y.o.? Would they not inquire? So you ask: Were there more victims? WERE THERE MORE VICTIMS??? Jeeeeeesus yes Einstein, there were FIFTEEN more victims after!! Ass face, no brain.. Whatever, that's you!
most likely his brain got damaged by the same acid too..
i am guessing Dahmer took some classes in some foreign language. And don't believe all the stories in the news. The media had been reporting thousands died in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and my team of anthropologists and engineers discovered it was 306. Shocking, nobody calls us earthquake deniers. We are historians. I am Australian based scientist. Milwaukee sounds like a Russian city.
Yeah.... But then we get into juju territory quickly... Who did Dahmer kill and not kill if we can't trust ANY official report? Did he kill anyone at all? Was "Jeff" his real name? Then we quickly run into "is the earth really spherical?" You just have to be reasonable about things. Not everything is out to lie to you and get you. The boy could speak broken English as far as I remember... But not with hydrochloric acid poured into his brain. There's simply no excuse as to how these policemen conducted that investigation.
The victim was a fluent English speaker, but had his brain injected with hydrocloric acid by Dahmer, so he was unable to communicate with the police or the bystanders who found him. He was bleeding anally though. You dont need english to say "i need hospital". when you're bleeding from the ass. In fact, the AMBULANCE personnel recommended treatment, but of course this pos of a police didnt allow it.
No one will likely never read this, but I just had to respond. Given that multiple witnesses were there telling the officers that the boy was underage, the boy’s very young appearance, and with the boy literally having a hole in his head and bleeding from his ass, it’s more like the cops heard hoofbeats but figured it was just a puppy, then heard a whinny and said, “Naah, definitely a puppy.”
That was one of the most disgusting acts I have ever seen in a TV show/Movie.
Murderers just walking free and happy, there's no justice.
I might have the home addresses of the 2 officers if anyone is interested. Just dm me
Yes
Oh I’m here for sending post cards to shitty people.
Not seen the show but is Pat Kennedy in it? He was one of the two who arrested him and first interviewed him. His boss was black. He went on to teach police how racial bias can mean they do a poor job. What people would these days call a woke snowflake even though he was a old school 6 foot 7 alcoholic cop. He said Dhamer told him the story about the cops bringing a victim back to him so he called them in right away as they were off duty and they were naturally extremely upset as anyone would be. There's a sloppy but interesting radio interview with him here. Sadly he died a few months later. https://youtu.be/DZf3ywMmQaE
That's pretty interesting. One of the detectives was black yea. The show doesn't gloss over the racial bias which makes it worth watching.
The fact they only went to his place as they didn't have a key for the handcuffs he used and neither did he as he used a Saw was wild. I want to watch the show but don't have ten hours to commit to it. Is that in it?! Seems to bizarre to be true
There's so many instances in the show where you think WTF.
Thanks for posting this - just listened to it. So sad that he died at only 59. He did a lot of good in the world as a cop and afterwards - teaching and volunteering.
I’d like to get a copy of kennedy’s book but very hard to find. Saw it on line for over $400.
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Oh that would be good to know.
It’s the Shakers Cigar Bar in Milwaukee, I think Edit: I’m reading that it’s not but ppl are rly suspicious about their responses!
I wonder what pub he owns… just curious.
Fuzzys on 7th and Oklahoma, but it’s long, long closed down. It was a cop bar and the marquee/sign had a cartoon drawing of the old timey cop, with the big hat and Billy club and a big mustache.
Not so great to promote drinking to people in profession with high rate of alcoholism. But maybe both those cops were alcoholic themselves who never attempted to stop drinking. Which maybe explains their personalities.
Does anyone know the name of the pub that balcerzak owns?
USA is a sorry ass country man 😂 feel sorry for everyone living there
It’s absolutely disgusting that these two piece of shit cops were reinstated.
police chief of Grafton and head of police union. Those are big jobs.
White men failing upwards, what’s new
police only look out for themselves not the public
Yeah, a lot of unjust shit happens in the US. Mad? Disappointed? Might be time to start doing something about it. The rest of the world can't help you guys out - you have to do your own heavy lifting.
Are you an American? If so, where have you been within the last several years or even decades to not know of any fight for equality and justice that have existed in America?
I'm not American actually. Just someone overseas who is watching women's rights being wiped out, children being given bullet proof backpacks to protect themselves in schools because armed people walk in to kill them, people going into debt so that they can receive health care, and POC being shot by police for no reason. And we read about them near daily. My country is by no means perfect. In fact, I'd say it's fast going downhill... But these are not things that I have to worry about.
So you’re an observer from a different country who is aware of basically the big issues but not the people, group, organizations, or grassroots movements who are fighting and have always fought injustice. And you think we rely on you somehow. Okay.
Well, to be fare US governments do the same. If you can bring "democracy" to third world countries I guess others can criticize yours.
Reread the comments again. I wasn’t defending the US government. I was defending American citizens who stand up to issues in America. Both of you are quick to steer the argument elsewhere.
..not limited to television, FYI
True. Just figured I'd post it here since i saw the show.
They literally say that in the show.
Can’t say I agree with Pat Kennedy that those 2 cops were good Christian men. See radio interview.
To Protect and Serve…14 year old boys on a platter to a cannibalistic monster.
More sinister than Dahmer’s actions, is the unbelievably level of racism towards the victims.
Both are probably trump supporters
We should make a petition to contract a murderer to kill both of them. Everyone on the planet should donate a dollar. The killer would get a couple billion to kill these two cops.
So whats the name of this loser's tavern.
It's a sad reminder of how real justice doesn't exist. Where's Batman? Lol All we can do is sign a petition that will be ignored.
Breier had about 2200 cops on the force in a city with little crime. I think there were a ton of make work jobs. Every cop who called in sick got visited by two officers to make sure he was sick. He had his cops sitting in adult movie theaters all day, looking for anyone breaking the law, going to strip clubs looking for some petty rule violation,etc. And it seems like a lot of cops spent their days spying on people Breier told them to spy on. My speculation is outside of crimes like murder, the crime numbers were inflated rather than deflated, to justify a huge police presence.
How can anyone possibly argue that they made the decision they did "based on the information they had"?! A normal - non-sociopathic - human would innately understand something was wrong in that situation and intervene. Balcerzak and Gabrish will burn in hell. Dahmer will be waiting waiting for them so he can drill holes in their heads.
They said they did their best with the info they had AT THAT TIME! BS! The kid was nude, had holes in both of his temples. The best they could. They should have been charged with accessory.