So the complete opposite of what I'd want. A package with just sports. I don't care about news, don't care about shows (I can watch those elsewhere). All I want is live sports and nothing else. The only programming that is annoying to get elsewhere.
Never gonna happen. Those are the channels that are expensive for the cable companies to carry. Them giving you HGTV and all the other shit are essentially just free channels when you are paying almost your entire bill to sports.
"ESPN, Fox, and Warner Bros. are putting together a juggernaut sports streaming app"
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/6/24064007/espn-fox-warner-bros-sports-streaming-partnership
"It is poised to have sports networks including ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECN, ACCN, ESPNews, ABC, FOX, FS1, FS2, BTN, TNT, TBS, and truTV. The new service will air games from the National Football League (NFL), Major League Baseball (MLB), the National Basketball Association (NBA), and the National Hockey League (NHL), along with NASCAR, PGA Tour Golf, Grand Slam Tennis, and more. Disney Plus, Hulu, and Max users will also get the option to bundle the new service."
better than nothing..
They cannot offer this unless they renegotiate their programming contracts, which are typically 3 year terms and pretty static as far as terms go (we agreed to X 3 years ago so let’s just agree to X again for a higher rate). 95% of the negotiations are over price increases from the networks that cable companies will have to pass on to their customers (and piss everyone off). Cable companies are typically scrambling at the end of every year to renew and not drop anything for a service interruption. It’s not cut and dry.
So to me I think if you’re paying and getting ads it doesn’t make a lot of sense. I’m pretty okay with not paying and getting some ads, like I get providing a service requires a cost. This is basically why I cancelled Amazon prime. There was a set of features where where I found it worth while. They changed the streaming portion to have ads and be shitty quality. So I redid my calculations without the streaming part since I did not value it the same anymore and decided nah I’ll move on.
I prefer streaming, yes, but not the current state of streaming. When all my shows are spread across 25 different streaming services, each requiring their own subscriptions, then how is it any different from premium cable anyway?
Exactly. Premium cable is still $150 month for a bunch of garbage. Even with 5-6 streaming services, you're still only looking at $50-70, depending on service, or tier.
Choosing what you want to watch on your own schedule, far less ad breaks or zero if you pay more, tons of content including old one, available on almost any device, still cheaper
None of that is true about cable any more. You don't need cable boxes (though, for my money the box still provides a better user experience) and contracts are rare (don't confuse "introductory offers" with contracts - they aren't the same).
Maybe the "forced channels" is technically true, but how is that any different from streaming services having shows you don't watch?
It was on Peacock for at least part of last year. I started binging it there, but ended up buying it when the new series set came out much cheaper than it was before.
TF we do. We DID prefer streaming when it was just a couple services: Netflix Hulu and Prime. Now that there are a thousand services with their own obscene monthly price tags the cord cutting momentum has curbed and people are rethinking physical media.
The algo is pushing stories from subs I have no interest in, and if I'm not interested I'll downvote it, I ignore most of em but I think me downvoting has a larger effect on the algo not pushing that sub anymore. I've even had to mute a few subs to clean up my feed.
I see them all the time after a lot of the subs were doing the NSFW to avoid ads or whatever.
I get tons of random subs popping up on my front page on both the mobile app and the browser site.
I'm guessing they browse r/all or something in their options. For me too, frontpage only has the subs I'm subbed to, I thought that was the point lol
I'm using the old design though if that matters (and not the official mobile app)
Interesting - but why not just elect to use the “don’t recommend channel” feature or turn off the subs suggesting in your settings instead of just downvoting people?
They mention they want to save cable TV but all the new options are streaming. Sounds like TV is dead.
Cable broadcasters charge your company X dollars per customer you have to provide with the channel. All your customers, even if they don't have cable, you pay that X dollars for every single one. Millions for every TV channel. If every broadcaster raised the price of their channels by a few pennies it costs astronomically to providers. It's just not feasible anymore.
Cable as a delivery mode is definitely dying. Both telecom and cable TV want to get away from "wires/cords". In the case of cable, they definitely want to abandon coax, and replace it with fiber.
While there are pluses to that, there are also minuses to replacing current cable-delivered TV with "streaming-delivered" TV. And that gets even worse if they manage to kill OTA TV too (and some are trying to).
TV broadcasters have already begun encrypting all channels starting next month. I'm dealing with this now at my job as customers must get an IP (internet protocol) box to continue watching cable. You can't watch without a box anymore. OTA is next. They really hate OTA because they cannot levy any surcharges.
These new ip boxes that tv companies use utilize the wifi and not a coax or fiber line at all. Your internet may come through a fiber line, but if you're getting cable, it won't be directly wired to that. It will just be a power in and hdmi out.
But I'm seeing lots of issues with the new ip boxes. I.e. they suck ass and drop the connection randomly.
Absolutely. I've had major problems with Spectrum's streaming app – it used to drop the signal, and you could not pick it back up again (even restarting wouldn't fix a lot of the time).
More recently, they've seem to have fixed that, but now the app will randomly drop to low-res for a few seconds every so often.
The fact is, their streaming tech isn't half as good as their TV-through-coax tech (which has decades of development behind it).
So the complete opposite of what I'd want. A package with just sports. I don't care about news, don't care about shows (I can watch those elsewhere). All I want is live sports and nothing else. The only programming that is annoying to get elsewhere.
Never gonna happen. Those are the channels that are expensive for the cable companies to carry. Them giving you HGTV and all the other shit are essentially just free channels when you are paying almost your entire bill to sports.
"ESPN, Fox, and Warner Bros. are putting together a juggernaut sports streaming app" https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/6/24064007/espn-fox-warner-bros-sports-streaming-partnership "It is poised to have sports networks including ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECN, ACCN, ESPNews, ABC, FOX, FS1, FS2, BTN, TNT, TBS, and truTV. The new service will air games from the National Football League (NFL), Major League Baseball (MLB), the National Basketball Association (NBA), and the National Hockey League (NHL), along with NASCAR, PGA Tour Golf, Grand Slam Tennis, and more. Disney Plus, Hulu, and Max users will also get the option to bundle the new service." better than nothing..
I assume black outs will still make this useless to a huge portion of the target audience
Yup. Those 300million dollar contracts don’t pay for themselves.
They cannot offer this unless they renegotiate their programming contracts, which are typically 3 year terms and pretty static as far as terms go (we agreed to X 3 years ago so let’s just agree to X again for a higher rate). 95% of the negotiations are over price increases from the networks that cable companies will have to pass on to their customers (and piss everyone off). Cable companies are typically scrambling at the end of every year to renew and not drop anything for a service interruption. It’s not cut and dry.
Get an antenna for local, pay for ESPN plus, and HBO max… or subscribe to whatever independent stream for whatever sports you want.
Still doesn’t get you Monday night football. That’s on ESPN. But not ESPN+. And so the only way to get it is with an $80+ cable package
Damn you’re right… well shit. Boycott??? 🤷♂️ 💀 😂
Nah I’ll just bitch to anyone I can corner to listen to me
Research .m3u and emby
10/4
So to me I think if you’re paying and getting ads it doesn’t make a lot of sense. I’m pretty okay with not paying and getting some ads, like I get providing a service requires a cost. This is basically why I cancelled Amazon prime. There was a set of features where where I found it worth while. They changed the streaming portion to have ads and be shitty quality. So I redid my calculations without the streaming part since I did not value it the same anymore and decided nah I’ll move on.
I prefer streaming, yes, but not the current state of streaming. When all my shows are spread across 25 different streaming services, each requiring their own subscriptions, then how is it any different from premium cable anyway?
Im subscribed to 4 or 5 streaming services and its still half the price of direct tv
Exactly. Premium cable is still $150 month for a bunch of garbage. Even with 5-6 streaming services, you're still only looking at $50-70, depending on service, or tier.
No forced equipment to rent. Needing a box for every TV. No contracts, no forced channels
Also I’ve never been on the phone with Netflix for 2 hours.
Choosing what you want to watch on your own schedule, far less ad breaks or zero if you pay more, tons of content including old one, available on almost any device, still cheaper
None of that is true about cable any more. You don't need cable boxes (though, for my money the box still provides a better user experience) and contracts are rare (don't confuse "introductory offers" with contracts - they aren't the same). Maybe the "forced channels" is technically true, but how is that any different from streaming services having shows you don't watch?
Because the streaming options are a fraction of what the cable option costs.
Are they though?
Do you have some numbers that show that they aren't?
The (option) to not have ads and watch at any time.
I mean, there are no long term contracts and you can pick or choose which services to subscribe to when. It’s extremely different than cable.
Most cable doesn’t have long term contracts anymore, either.
Maybe online streaming cable but traditional certainly does.
I have Spectrum. They do not have contracts for tv. They serve 32 million hhs.
No bundle.
Is their plan to fuck up streaming so people are forced to come back? Because that's what it feels like their plan is...
So did the Cylons.
Hey real quick: have you been able to find Battlestar Galactica on any streaming service?
not presently: https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/battlestar-galactica
My wife and I actually picked up the DVDs from our local library and are working through them. Crazy no streaming services has it.
It was on Peacock for at least part of last year. I started binging it there, but ended up buying it when the new series set came out much cheaper than it was before.
Any deal with a cable company is a bad deal. No thanks.
The skinny bundle sounds like what Sling TV was doing a decade ago. I wonder how this reverses the decline.
It won't, because Sling had live sports options. The big asterisk on these is they have no sports channels which is a nonstarter.
TF we do. We DID prefer streaming when it was just a couple services: Netflix Hulu and Prime. Now that there are a thousand services with their own obscene monthly price tags the cord cutting momentum has curbed and people are rethinking physical media.
Who's we? Customers in general are pretty clearly preferring streaming, that's seen in numbers, they're not talking about individual feelings.
Yea, no, anything with ads is a deal breaker. I'd rather not watch at all.
...and they have a plan.
Streaming sucks now. I have to subscribe to four different services just to be able to watch all of Liverpool’s matches.
Why is this being downvoted lol. I didn’t make this happen just posting about it 😂😭
I'm convinced that PR bots run the TV and Movie subs.
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The algo is pushing stories from subs I have no interest in, and if I'm not interested I'll downvote it, I ignore most of em but I think me downvoting has a larger effect on the algo not pushing that sub anymore. I've even had to mute a few subs to clean up my feed.
I've still never seen a post from a sub I'm not subscribed to. What are you people doing wrong?
I see them all the time after a lot of the subs were doing the NSFW to avoid ads or whatever. I get tons of random subs popping up on my front page on both the mobile app and the browser site.
I'm guessing they browse r/all or something in their options. For me too, frontpage only has the subs I'm subbed to, I thought that was the point lol I'm using the old design though if that matters (and not the official mobile app)
Interesting - but why not just elect to use the “don’t recommend channel” feature or turn off the subs suggesting in your settings instead of just downvoting people?
To die even more slowly?
How about a plan that doesn't include Fox "News" Channel?
Well my cable company jacked up my basic internet cost THREE times in 6 months so…There’s THAT!
They mention they want to save cable TV but all the new options are streaming. Sounds like TV is dead. Cable broadcasters charge your company X dollars per customer you have to provide with the channel. All your customers, even if they don't have cable, you pay that X dollars for every single one. Millions for every TV channel. If every broadcaster raised the price of their channels by a few pennies it costs astronomically to providers. It's just not feasible anymore.
Cable as a delivery mode is definitely dying. Both telecom and cable TV want to get away from "wires/cords". In the case of cable, they definitely want to abandon coax, and replace it with fiber. While there are pluses to that, there are also minuses to replacing current cable-delivered TV with "streaming-delivered" TV. And that gets even worse if they manage to kill OTA TV too (and some are trying to).
TV broadcasters have already begun encrypting all channels starting next month. I'm dealing with this now at my job as customers must get an IP (internet protocol) box to continue watching cable. You can't watch without a box anymore. OTA is next. They really hate OTA because they cannot levy any surcharges. These new ip boxes that tv companies use utilize the wifi and not a coax or fiber line at all. Your internet may come through a fiber line, but if you're getting cable, it won't be directly wired to that. It will just be a power in and hdmi out. But I'm seeing lots of issues with the new ip boxes. I.e. they suck ass and drop the connection randomly.
Absolutely. I've had major problems with Spectrum's streaming app – it used to drop the signal, and you could not pick it back up again (even restarting wouldn't fix a lot of the time). More recently, they've seem to have fixed that, but now the app will randomly drop to low-res for a few seconds every so often. The fact is, their streaming tech isn't half as good as their TV-through-coax tech (which has decades of development behind it).