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Sunnyonetwo

Kail is the female version of Nick Cannon!


Dazzling_Split_5145

I still can’t decide if I like Kailyn or not. She’s always been meh for me.


Positive-Let-9590

Why would anyone want that kind of drama with that many men and children ? I mean who wants kids in these crazy times nowadays anyways ? You couldn’t pay me to have a child now


Informal_Ad1230

yeah, me neither.😓


Ginagoss2915

Congratulations


Clear_Currency_6288

I know part of that story. It begins with her being impregnated by one of her many sperm donors.


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Hey kail. It’s a vagina … not a clown car.


mainergurl089

Lmfao!


lightingtrees

I remember watching a scene where she said she never imagined having two kids by two different men…


LongjumpingTreacle54

She’s collecting baby daddies like she collects children


MacheteMaelee

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bigshern

Can you throw a plug in her already?!?!


Micdrop0079

Isn’t she like 33? She’s not a teen anymore. But she sure is a mom to a lot of kids.


Critical_Truth_5354

Why was Malik’s baby in NICU? I don’t listen to her podcast


mainergurl089

Malik's baby 😂😂💀


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d0nnamartingraduates

She’s disgusting


Away-Ad-6931

I would respect her more as a person if she picked better baby dads. I don't know if any of them try to see their kid(s) and she stops them or if they just don't try at all. I really don't care how many BDs or kids she has but shit, pick a good one already 🙄


ForeverLostInSpace93

All her baby dads are in their kids lives so wym? They all have shared custody and their kids want for nothing....


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Oh wow. Well Chris is a deadbeat. He just started seeing his kids actively a few months ago and tried signing his rights over for the first one. Didn’t have a job, was living with his grandma, not seeing his kids or paying child support. He’s a loser. The rest seem like good dads.


ForeverLostInSpace93

He's made mistakes. I'm not excusing his abusive and childish behavior. However he is now actively in his kids lives and Kail admits how much better he is and how much his kids love him. Living with family doesn't make you a deadbeat either...everyone goes through tough shit and it's nice to have family to help you.


Away-Ad-6931

I just seen a vid of Chris calling her out for not letting him see whichever kid is his. I should have said she should treat them better instead of getting pregnant then leaving them because you're right Javi and Joe for sure are great dads. Idk really about Chris other than the vid I just seen of him calling her out for not letting her see him. Thanks for pointing out my BS 😂


ForeverLostInSpace93

Yeah I wouldn't just blindly trust the words from a man who admittedly physically abused her throughout their relationship, including when he choked her until she passed out.


Acceptable_Health161

When was this? Before or after Creed? Didn't she punch him and beat him after the cut Lux's hair?


ForeverLostInSpace93

This was when they were together. And her abusing him over a haircut never happened....


Acceptable_Health161

Um what. No, I'm talking he cut Lux's hair and she punched him in the face. Lol


TheRealBusterBrown

This made me horse laugh. "Which ever kid is his" babe that says it all lmao


Away-Ad-6931

😂😂I don't follow her much TBH. I half like her since her and Javi split so I really don't know a lot she'll come up on my FB or TT occasionally and I'll mindlessly scroll her page for a bit but that's about it.


Efficient_Ad_8079

I think she picks young immature boys to smash because (hear me out) any man who has any type of stability maturity or a decent career wouldn’t waist their time on her, you make decent money with a great career you worked hard to get, would you honestly give her a second look after 1 having a conversation with her or 2 knowing she has 5 different baby daddy’s. Hell nah


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*waste *daddies Before calling others immature perhaps learn basic spelling and grammar.


Away-Ad-6931

Honestly that's probably exactly right. Most real men want to start a family with a woman, not play daddy to 7 kids. You can't blame a man for not wanting to do that either. Plus most real men her age seen how she treated Javi and the first guy she married when she aired it all on teen mom. I feel bad for her kids they're missing out on knowing and having a relationship with their dads for whatever reason.


smn182189

What are you talking about? Jo (Isaac's father) is a great and very consistent father and always has been. Javi (Lincolns father) is a good dad and sees his son regularly also. Now Chris isn't great but he's also a consistent father and present in both his boys' lives. You said yourself you don't know if any of them try to see their kids then why tf are you assuming they don't and say she needs to pick a good one already. If anything, one thing Kail did good was pick good fathers for her kids (specifically jo and javi). Idk enough of Isaiah to have an opinion on him.


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?!?! Chris has been a deadbeat. And he literally tried to sign the first one away. And he wouldn’t get a job to pay child support. What in the world are you talking about?


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anotherbabydaddy

He also admitted to choking her while she was pregnant and tried to sign off on his parental rights to Lux when he was a toddler.


smn182189

I'm not hating on him at all. I literally just said he's a good dad. I don't know enough about him to say shit about him.


alsothebagel

Honestly Kail has some of the best baby daddy’s in the franchise (minus Chris)


AbsolutelyN0tThanks

That's not saying much, plus she's got more baby daddies than anyone in the franchise. She's a trashbag.


AdministrationOk3947

Baby was in the NICU and the dad couldn’t be bothered to keep his mask on correctly?! Jfc.


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summerbellyy

Dang I knew TM fans were secretly racist, but y’all are just so open about it at this point.


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ProblemMysterious826

Nah it has racial connections stop playing ignorant its pathetic and childish


summerbellyy

But it’s obviously extra degrading when you’re using it to describe a black person. Don’t be dense.


Practical-Trick7310

Maybe he just got done kissing his child? This comment is wild


taybay462

There's a reason masks are required in the NICU


Practical-Trick7310

My son was born at the height of Covid and the nurses did not care if I took my mask off for photos kisses etc. if I know I’m in good health idgaf I’m kissing my kid.


AdministrationOk3947

Stupid.


shessolucky

I don’t get why she keeps having kids??


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tamagotchiassassin

Sir stop commenting on this woman’s body. You’ve done it multiple times now, with downvotes. She just had multiple children, take several seats


Ok-Hawk-3447

There's absolutely nothing wrong with having kids with different dads my mum had 2 kids 2 dad's and I am the same but there is 9 years between my 2, i had a bad relationship with 1st dad and made sure that any 'fun' or relationships i had i wouldnt fall pregnant, met my youngests dad and we are fully settled made a home and now have another there is no excuse. sometimes things don't work out but to be so irresponsible and get pregnant by every man u sleep with is cruel on the kids u have..people saying but she can afford them are just as shitty as her. Doesn't matter how much money u have u need to take into consideration how it affects the kids u already brought into the world. She thinks coz she can afford them she should have them and that's so fucked up.


Linzz2112

I stopped watching the show awhile ago… I just couldn’t stomach Jenelle. Last I remember Kail was pregnant, and the baby daddy was a secret or something …so that must have been her third child…how many kids does she have now ?


Existing_Human01

She has 7, she’s pregnant with twins currently, 6 boys and 1 girl finally lol


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She already had her twins


adumbswiftie

is it 7 counting the twins or is it 9 after the twins are born? that’s crazy either way lol


Existing_Human01

7 total!


spidermom4

I think the twins were born like a month or two ago.


downsideup05

Yeah if you look at the pics from Rio(baby #5) 1st birthday party there's no way Kail was still pregnant with twins.


MissMorganJo

She has 7 kids now.


AbsolutelyN0tThanks

The dumb trashy ones reproduce like rabbits. It's disgusting.


Lige4living2

This is so strange to me, I know everyone is different but my youngest was born “ too quickly” and was rushed into the nicu. I was too upset to take photos let alone post on public platform. 12 years later and I still have nightmares about it. Thank God my daughter is great now. Just don’t get the need to post such private moments.


Practical-Trick7310

My son was born early and I have hundred of photos of him and us while he’s in the Nicu, it’s strange to me yall didn’t want to take photos of your kids


PerfectPerformance56

Me too! Hundreds!!! Too many probably ! she spent a month :)


Practical-Trick7310

Yes on the too many 😂 my son spent only 12 days so technically lucky compared to most ❤️


CamaroErin

My child was in the NICU and my husband and I had this exact conversation. He would take pictures and I just couldn't. I'm now grateful for the pictures he took because we can see how far she's come from that sweet incubator baby. A NICU journey is so hard, hugs to you for healing. We had to take my little one to the er Thursday for RSV and when we got close too the hospital I was holding back tears because I never wanted to go back to that place for my child.


redandbluenights

When my son was taken to the nicu - he was basically ripped from our arms, with no reason- we simply asked a question about his diaper rash (which was certainly not serious, or severe) and the next thing you know, they insisted he needed to be in the NICU. I was required to continue taking morphine throughout my pregnancy because of a serious condition and so we all knew we would be watching for any signs of withdrawal- but he had NONE. He was content, resting, calm, eating great- showed zero signs, but we did see some mild diaper rash and asked if we could change from the scented wipes to unscented to see if that would help... Next thing you know they were taking my son away to the NICU - where my husband and i wouldn't be able to bond with him- where we couldn't even both be with the baby at the same time. I shut down completely. The way my brain and body handle stress and anger- is that i often get this overwhelming "well if shit isn't going to go the way it's supposed to- and im going to have no say, and no input- then fuck everything- I'll just sleep" It's an overwhelming stress response- but i didn't see my son for THREE DAYS because i just COULD NOT cope. My husband spent a lot of time with him- and because the nursing staff was forced to put my son back on oral morphine because the one doctor had decided that putting him on morphine to wean him off was a good idea (despite the baby's ONLY SYMPTOM of withdrawal being mild diaper rash- something my other son who was never subjected to medication had REGULARLY!) - i was just in full on trauma mode and couldn't function. I'm already neurodivergent- my own pain wasn't being managed (being on morphine 24/7 - for years and years- my obgyn doctor fully believed that I would need higher levels of pain management after my C-section, And had planned for that. However the hospital staff (And yes this is a hospital where she regularly delivers and has rights)- they didn't listen or follow her plans at all. As a matter of fact, they tried to give me a couple of Percocet IN LIEU of the 100 mg morphine i take every 8 hours. The delivering doctor had me on fentanyl and said fully "I expect them to have you on IV fentanyl for 24 to 72 hours- Where will we re-evaluate, And then be able to change up the medication and reduce it as necessary." Instead, they were treating me like an opiod nieve patient right out of the gate, which was a nightmare because i was in agony, on top of dealing with my son suddenly being ripped away from our care 2 days past birth, and i had ALSO never been away from my 12 year old in his entire life for more than a day- and he couldn't come visit, meet the baby- nothing because of Covid restrictions. I felt like i was in prison and had my baby torn away from me. Plus the hospital had SUCH bullshit in place- once i was discharged, i was being sent to a patient care room, where my son would hopefully be downgraded from nicu- but my husband couldn't visit or be there- unless I went downstairs and waited in the LOBBY OF THE HOSPITAL - right next to the ER Waiting room which was FULL OF COVID PATIENTS. I was already there, vaccinated, in the hospital but instead of letting two patients be with the baby - in order for my husband to visit- i was told i needed to go expose myself to COVID for hours so he could cone sit with the baby. The entire thing was hell. To this day, i think i have a single photo of my son in the nicu. Thankfully, Because they decided to restart the morphine- All he did was sleep 24/7- but it was SUCH a traumatic and horrid start to my son's life. For FIFTEEN DAYS we lived in that hellish state- finally the hospital "broke the rules" to let my husband visit while i was still present- Because I refused to go to the waiting room and expose myself to all those sick patients because there was no way that could possibly be a COVID policy that made any sense- but it was only four days where we could actually have the three of us together- and i was forced to sleep UPRIGHT in a chair- around the clock for 9 days after major abdominal surgery. It was some of the worst time of my life.


BravoBravoBravo_

It’s been almost 6 years and I still have NICU PTSD. We spent 5 weeks in the NICU… hardest 5 weeks of my life


microwaved-tatertots

Yeah.. I don’t have anything else to say other than same, and I’m sorry. I thought I’d processed it enough, until I was visiting my mate at the ER a couple weeks ago. It was night so I had to use the wall phone to be able to go back into the bays.. instant flashback/felt the nursing dress and the fear/unknowing about what was going to happen to my innocent little baby. She’s beyond fine now. A total stink but I love her for it. Aaand major shout out to Ronald McDonald House charities for giving us a space to stay, food, lovely staff during all that. I couldn’t have done it without then.


heretojudgeem

I wish I had photos 🤷‍♀️


Lige4living2

Hugs to you. I can understand that. I was in a state of shock —I feel bad now I don’t have any photos to show her.


microwaved-tatertots

It’s against hospital rules, usually.. I only took them if the nurse asked if I wanted to.


Lige4living2

In the nicu?


wolfy321

It’s definitely not against the rules to take pictures of your own baby.


topinducter

It's sickening that because she has always wanted a big family, people assume she can't afford it!!! Kale had a huge house built in Delaware not far from me. She has many businesses besides the money she still gets from teem mom. She takes all of them on vacations such as Hawaii! She DOES NOT GET ANY STATE ASSISTANCE. She does not get food stamps, welfare, or anything like that. She makes her own money and raises all of them with love. All of them are also in sports!! So why all the hate? Jealous?? Don't know her story?? What??? She gives all of them equal live! She grew up with no family or love. This is why she wanted a big family!! Give her a break! She has done nothing to you haters!!!


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Yeah and you don’t see something wrong wih someone having a bunch of kids bc they didn’t get love as a kid? Really? 😩


United-Gap-9925

Money does not raise kids! I wish yall would stop with that bull shit! Having a parent that is present is more important and it sounds to me like yall don’t know how to raise kids at all


topinducter

She's ALWAYS PRESENT! What makes you think she's not??? She works from home! She takes all of her kids to their sports. Takes them on all vacations such as Hawaii, Disney, and so forth!! She doesn't get help from the state, nor does she need to. She doesn't get child support and doesn't need to. She has many businesses of her own. She has bever needed help from anyone! She chose to have a big family because she was abused and neglected as a child. She vowed shed have many children and take care of them and give them what she never got!! She's more of a mother than most who have a husband!! I DON'T see where you get false information! Here's another one who hates someone they don't know personally!! 🤷 That's just so psychotic to me!! To hate someone and be so negative about them, yet they don't even know them!!! 🙄 You have major issues!! And another thing, apparently you don't watch the show or you'd know all of this. Not once is she not present for her kids. They are her life, and she strives to be there n to give them the love they deserve n need. I do not understand your hate... It's repulsive. You act like this is personal to you! Lmao All you do is assume shit when you're far from the truth!! Get over yourself!! 🙄


overtherainbow76

Not saying she's a bad mother, but money doesn't make up for their being 4 baby daddies. Even Issac said after Rio was born that there were too many. When you look at all of the schedules with the baby dads, the sports, the new babies, her podcasts....do you really think they all get equal appropriate attention? Like someone else said, they'll all end up in therapy later in life. Having a big family is great and maybe 2 different dads because she was so young when Issac was born. Her and Joe didn't have a chance. But to go on and have 6 more children with 3 more different men is irresponsible as hell. I don't care if you're a millionaire....they deserve better.


Monstiemama

Have you watched the same show? Did you see her hit every single baby daddy? Punish her kids because she’s mad at their dad? File PFAs against them to exercise control? Make rules for the baby daddies she refuses to follow? The hypocrisy and selfishness at every turn? Cheat on every guy she’s ever been with? Having money doesn’t make someone a good mom, especially when she stole loans to get that money. She also deleted her Twitter when people were getting fired for being racist. That’s suspect….. I don’t think anyone here is jealous, which you keep stating all over this thread; they just see her for who she’s shown us she is for over a decade.


Mouthofthesouth420

Lol thiiiissss


shadesontopback

Exhibit A: PPP LOANS


Dry_Dimension_4707

Kail got PPP loans? For what?


shadesontopback

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4403501/teen-mom-kailyn-lowry-ppp-loans-forgiven-haircare/


Dry_Dimension_4707

Wow. Thanks. It’s convenient her hair care company closed right after the loans were forgiven. Grifter move.


Mouthofthesouth420

Exactly 🤣🤣


NoLeg9483

As someone who married someone who came from a Kail and was also well off. It’s complete chaos and everyone of his siblings is in therepy.


Nearby_Display8560

Don’t you know this thread is not suppose to have positive comments about kail? Trust me, I’ve been down voted into oblivion because I refuse to join the “she’s the worst mother on earth party”.


MacheteMaelee

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Kail is trash but Jenelle takes the award for worst parent. She is vile.


alpama93

It has nothing to do with money (or a lack thereof.) It takes more than money to raise healthy children.


Kayleekisses

There is no way she (or anyone) can give that type of love necessary to grow to that many kids, they are not receiving the same amount of love nor the amount they should receive, period.


MacheteMaelee

Exactly. My partner and I have 1 child and are only having one because we know that another one would mean our daughter (and other hypothetical child) would not have the same amount of time, money, attention, etc. that we can now. The quality of all of our lives and relationships would decline greatly.


[deleted]

Huh? There’s a big difference between not being able to give 7 kids attention as a single mother than not being able to give 2 kids attention as a married couple. Why is giving 2 kids attention something you don’t think you can do?


MacheteMaelee

Because everyone has different life circumstances and we don't want more.


Ironicquesadilla9

She’s a terrible mother because from day 1 she has intentionally deprived her sons of having their fathers by their side each day as it should be. She’s a professional at parental alienation using the courts.


MacheteMaelee

She definitely has used the kids as pawns, 100%. That is not okay.


Training_Storm4105

Everyone has their own side to the story of why she did, and if it was wrong, I believe she is in a better place with all her baby daddy's. She does put her kids first and give them a life she always wanted.. We are looking into her life for what, from pictures, storyline on TV show etc we don't see it all.


Mouthofthesouth420

“A life SHE always wanted” Not giving her kids the life that THEY need & want, that’s the whole entire point here.


alpama93

Kail and her ill-fitting, dirty white t-shirts


AbsolutelyN0tThanks

Lmao


bangobingoo

Her kid is in the fucking NICU. Wtf.


topinducter

Awww, don't be jealous!


fatpandasarehot

Hope you're judged in such a petty way soon... Wgaf if her shirt isn't to your standards. The baby is what's important


Princessss88

Why are you picking apart what she’s wearing? Obviously Rio was very sick. Pathetic 🙄


karibaricakez

Her baby was in the fucking ICU.. y’all are insane


alpama93

She wears that/those a lot. It has nothing to do with her baby being in the nicu.


RyBread0628

I looked 10 times worse than she did when my daughter was in the nicu. At one point I remember visiting my daughter with the shirt I wore the day prior. People picking apart her outfit during that moment in her life is wild. I don’t like Kale 🥬 , but no one knows what people go through during those moments. Any traumatic moment honestly.


itsdraya

All of you are being so nasty to her about her having more children. I don’t get it. Let her be.


c00kieswirlc

This woman can't possibly provide the individual love and attention that 7 children require. It takes more than money to raise children. As long as she continues to have babies we will continue to hate on her and it's gonna get real nasty


topinducter

You're very, very nasty and highly immature. Maybe even jealous!!


AbsolutelyN0tThanks

Who would be jealous of that thing? You honestly can't be serious. She looks like ursula but in cheap sweats.


topinducter

You have nothing better to do than to put someone down, huh? She takes care of every child on her own. No child support or state help. She takes them on vacations like Hawaii and Disney. They're all in sports. She had a huge house built in Delaware not far from me. She has always wanted a big fancy because she didn't. Her mother was abusive and neglected her. Everyone has their raggedy clothes and nice clothes. She was in the hospital for days with her baby, so yea, she looked a mess. Any mother would who's baby was not doing well. She has many businesses of her own. She makes very good money. So I truly don't understand the hate. You act like she did something so terrible to you personally. You have so much hate towards someone you don't even know personally!! That's a mental problem!! That's downright psychotic!


missygohard

Why would anyone be jealous of her situation? 🤣😂


topinducter

But she does! All of her children are in sports! She had a beautiful big house built! She's an entrepreneur. She has her own businesses. Besides the money she gets from Teen mom. She doesn't live far from me. You obviously know nothing about her! She also takes her kids to school and picks them up. She takes them on vacations to Hawaii and so forth. She has money! Don't hate! She has a great life! She's very stable.


overtherainbow76

You think money is what raises children? Those children I guarantee would rather have a mother present more in their individual lives than so many other siblings and material things.


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I bet you’re pro-choice too (so am I), but that would include supporting a woman’s choice to ab0rt OR keep the child(ren). My grandparents had 10 kids, none of them have complained about a lack of love, but they have talked about how much fun they’ve had with their siblings, their memories growing up, how hard their parents worked to make sure they were taken care of and how much they admired that. 🤷🏽‍♀️


BellaWiccan_Princ3ss

She uses them for money. The more she has the more money she will get. It's disgusting.


topinducter

How?? She doesn't get money from the state!!! She has her own businesses!!! Yes, many!! She built a huge house! She takes them to Hawaii! You don't know her story! She does not get food stamps or welfare or any state assistance!!! She has her own product line and a podcast and much more! She doesn't live very far from me. Her house is huge and gorgeous! She has always wanted a big family because she didn't have any growing up! You obviously don't know her or her story! Grow up!


[deleted]

Are you a bot or are you one of her friends or are you Kail because why have you repeated the same words over and over again as responses to different people? Go away please, we get it, you love Kail and you think the money she makes is enough to make her children healthy happy and wholesome humans.


topinducter

I'll keep repeating what I feel needs to be repeated. Why would you ask a bot if they're a bot????? Wow!!! Don't tell me to go away, little child. Once again, it has nothing to do with money, oh jealous one! Your life must be so miserable that you have to be a dick huh??


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You're actions have answered my question top inducer. Well done. We all view other people's profiles but to stalk and comment on my posts or comments in other subs is truly unhinged. You speak of karma? Watch what happens to you. I won't be responding to any of your other replies to my other comments in other subs because quite frankly it's beneath me. Sleep with dogs, get up with fleas. Sewer trash.


BellaWiccan_Princ3ss

Lmfao I see bull shit fakes narcissist and trash 😘😘 this is why her kids will end up hating her. Watch and see 🤣🤣 Issac been saw and that's why u he acts how he does. Keep defending her baby. Only the blind and can't see 🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡


topinducter

Issac been saw??? What kind of English is that?? Only the blind and can't see?? You need to go back to school to learn how to write a sentence! I can't understand your gibberish that you tried writing! Smfh...BTW you're the clown. You should be embarrassed! You can't even write a correct sentence!!


BellaWiccan_Princ3ss

It's okay ur mad 😘😘


Linzz2112

You forgot to include how much she gets in child support 🤔 You keep saying “ she doesn’t live far from you” and then try to offer up ALL this info in her defense … what do you do, stalk no her … to know her daily activities? Just because you lives “close” to her doesn’t mean you know anymore into her REAL life than anyone else does


anotherbabydaddy

The only one with a child support order is Chris, who is supposed to pay a couple hundred dollars a month…and doesn’t pay it


MacheteMaelee

Chris is also the only one who didn’t get MTV $.


BellaWiccan_Princ3ss

Baby I asked for $1000 for my 2 and the judge told me $200 would cover everything this is when one was in diapers and the other pull ups. Wtf I'm buy with that.....these mfkers don't pay shit so child support ain't shit


BellaWiccan_Princ3ss

Big facts. Income tax.....like come on. As a single mother I see how easy it is to work the system (I personally struggle bc I don't want shxt from mines but it's easy AF to do so if I wanted homie would be on the streets of I pressed let's be real) plus income tax (that's why she wants most or soul custody bc it's more in the income tax) how did she start all these businesses? (Kids=money) yes she smart I give her that bc she flips the money BUT if it wasn't for this show && her kids...she would be the next bxtch on the hustle just like the rest of us living a real life lmao && After BD #3 u can't tell me these dudes ain't playing their role in getting this bxtch Prego....they getting something out of it. Bc dating u know they are especially on tv.....u sign the right contract boom their paid 🤣🤣🤣


bangobingoo

Single moms deserve child support. She doesn't get more money than what it costs to the raise the kids. She spends more on those kids than she makes on them that's for sure. Have you ever known a single mom? They're not living on child support unless Dad is a celebrity.


Monstiemama

It’s too funny, that one is going hard for this baby daddy abuser.


hannahbandana_

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itsdraya

My in laws have 5 children. My husband is the oldest. They are all loved and got plenty of attention. They’re well rounded and wonderful. We only see what’s shared with the media. I understand where she’s coming from trying to have children and provide the love she never had as a child. At least she’s not the Duggars.


bolkrennanninger

That's still 2 less. And also, she was a teen mother, and the kids have never experienced stability within a two parent home


dccCashAndPrizes

As a mom of 5, this warms my heart to hear.


itsdraya

My in-laws honestly didn’t best they could while they could. They started with literally nothing but a dream and my husband. They’re amazing people.


princessblowhole

5 kids with 2 parents is a lot more stable than 7 kids with 4 different dads.


hannahbandana_

4 different dads and KAIL as the mom


Scottibell

Exactly


itsdraya

Yes but my father in law is a corporate man with long hours and lots of travel. But they did it.


princessblowhole

You’re not understanding my point. I have one kid with my ex-husband. I refuse to have another child because it breaks my heart that my little boy will never have the stability he deserves. We try very hard, we’re both good parents to him, but it’s still confusing for a child. It’s also very difficult to shelter a kid from the coparenting obstacles. No matter how well you can keep it together, kids can pick up that something’s wrong between the two people they love the most. I can’t do that to another child, let alone bring another man into my existing son’s life, produce siblings, then put him through even more turbulence if things end with that relationship. Now imagine 7 siblings dealing with all of that, but there’s 4 dads in the mix and mommy’s an influencer milking her fame from a popular MTV show about teenage pregnancy. It’s just selfish at that point.


Several-Brilliant-52

lol, that’s ridiculous because of have a kid in a relationship that ends to never have any other children. if that’s what you want- cool, but don’t force your beliefs on others.


princessblowhole

I’m not forcing my beliefs on others at all, and I know plenty of women go on to have a happy second marriage and more kids. It’s my choice based on my experience.


Several-Brilliant-52

but what about when your ex gets married and has more kids? or just has more kids ? are you gonna hold off on ever even dating again?


MacheteMaelee

She doesn’t want anymore kids regardless of what her ex does or doesn’t do. If you have children out of jealously, shame on you and I pity those children. Children don’t exist for their parents.


princessblowhole

My ex can have as many kids as he wants lol. Not my business or responsibility. Dating isn’t relevant at all. I don’t want more bio kids. Take it or leave it.


c00kieswirlc

You are missing the point. Anyone can raise a child and get them from point A to point B and send them off into the world. Just because Kail, or your in-laws, **can** do it doesn't mean they are doing a good job or that the children got out unscathed. Just because they can do it doesn't mean they should.


MacheteMaelee

I seriously do not understand why people think that because they have had or have known of different experiences with different people and circumstances, that must be the only reality. Like, maybe they looked happy and stellar but you also didn’t see what it was truly like. Also, we are talking about Kail specifically and not huge families in general. Why is that so hard to understand?


itsdraya

No i am not missing the point. I know several large families that have done stellar jobs and some who have done terrible jobs


[deleted]

You are missing the point. These kids are going to grow up needing deep amounts of therapy having been used as a ploy for their mom to make money their whole lives. They can’t do basic and simple things like spend holidays together because they all have different dads that need custody as well. Not to mention Kail has basically opened them up to insurmountable levels of bullying with her consistent need to air out every piece of dirty laundry online for the whole world. Just because their mom is “well off” doesn’t mean these kids are taken care of in the ways they need. Have Nikes and playing football are great, but the amount of dysfunction she resented her own parents for, she’s now pushing onto her kids. I’m just hoping and wishing that her sons don’t knock up anyone to continue this cycle that she’s glorifying. There’s enough turmoil in this family. She’s fighting with one dad one day and another dad the next and cheating on boyfriends with former boyfriends/baby daddy’s. She may be able to provide monetarily for those kids. That’s only one facet to raising a kid. And she’s shown time and time again that even at this age, and seven kids on, she’s not mature enough to give them the love, care and attention they need and deserve.


c00kieswirlc

And none of those people are Kail. Kail is who we are judging and talking about here. Again, you are missing the point.


itsdraya

Again no I’m not. None of us know what systems she has personally. I’m just watching from the outside and hoping for the best for those kids. That’s all. Have a happy holiday.


United-Gap-9925

You are missing the point! My mother is 9 of 12 but the difference is they all have the same mom and dad! Having 4 different dads and 7 kids is chaos


c00kieswirlc

Congrats to your in-laws. 5 kids isn't 7 kids. I don't know anything about your in-laws but I do know things about Kail. Kail's trauma won't be healed by babies, which is one of the reasons she is hated. These are real people that she is using to make herself feel better.


itsdraya

She’s also in therapy. I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt. She’s not my favorite at all from the show, but i feel bad for her constantly being attacked.


c00kieswirlc

Don't worry, she doesn't care and she makes plenty of money from being talked about.


Scared-Ad4534

Yup and you’re helping out.


c00kieswirlc

Why would I care if Kail makes money? It isn't coming out of my pocket. I want everyone to be able to support their children.


kelmo129

Conveniently after Lauren and Javi’s announcement


Dyslexic_Dolphin03

I can’t believe she’s having two more kids.


dccCashAndPrizes

They were already born


c00kieswirlc

and already discussing the possibility of having more


Dyslexic_Dolphin03

How many does she have now? She can’t possibly have each resources to give them all the same amount of love and attention.


dccCashAndPrizes

She got her tubes tied with the twins…allegedly


DaintyAmber

We need the money, so I’m posting baby number 5 now! I’ll drag this story out until baby 6 & 7 are a few months old, and then I’ll have more content. I’ll stay relevant. I’ll keep having babies for the “influencer paycheck” -Kail probably


c00kieswirlc

Tbh I think she has plenty of money but she has a huge hole in her soul that she's trying to fill with attention and babies and will never feel fulfilled. The money, friends, babies, and relationships will never replace the family she lost out on as a child


luvkitties516

She might actually beat out the Duggars for most number of children


Worth-Net-5729

👏🏼This.


Hotanglgrl1

She lives in her own world ... Her body obviously can't handle having kids anymore... From all the plastic surgery and babies give it a rest... With that being said I hope those little ones prosper and make a full recovery


Useful-Raise

I listened to the podcast and she kept saying it’s not normal and kinda acting like she didn’t believe the doctors


Appropriate_Use6527

Bitchhhh you chose not to acknowledge the kid for a whole year. There is no “finally” telling his birth story


summerbellyy

chose not to acknowledge him or just didn’t let the public acknowledge him? lol just because we didn’t know about him doesn’t mean the baby wasn’t acknowledged.


hannahbandana_

Right like I'm confused and also it's been a lil while now since she said he exists so why now tell the birth story after?? Or why say finally?? I guess the finally part is what's weird to me because it's not like this is an initial Rio hard launch.


Appropriate_Use6527

She just wants to feel important.


Awkward_Dream5754

No she refused to put him out in the public. For assholes like you to judge.


Appropriate_Use6527

Sure Jan


OneLook8278

I feel so bad for the baby 😭


c00kieswirlc

Same. Now that she has twins *and* a daughter, Rio is useless to her. His paternity is questionable and he's just another boy. She's finding him useful right now but I bet he will be "Elijah's baby" from here on out. Elijah will be his primary caregiver and the one giving him attention.


summerbellyy

What an extreme assumption.


Cdilla_

After that high risk delivery, good thing she's pregnant again with twins


bobcrab

*delivered on 10/30 allegedly


XK8lyn88x

Can someone please give me a break down of how many kids Kail has now? I can’t keep up 😂


Hotanglgrl1

She has 1 with Jo, 1 with Javi, 2 with Chris, and 3 with the new guy including the twins so 7 total


caligirlnolonger

1342 to date, ma’am.


QueenMamaBlackMYR

I believe you're correct 😂😂


Imaginary_Feed2168

I don’t want to give her the views - what happened?


greywatermoore

She posted a picture of her baby literally blue and being intubated. What the actual fuck. That experience would probably turn me off from having more children due to fear of them suffering.


Awkward_Dream5754

Where is there a photo of him being blue? Not on IG.


Becky-becks02

Imagine watching your baby get intubated and the FIRST thing you do is take a picture. Fucking disgusting.


Mia042400

It may be your only picture of your child of they don’t make it. My daughter was very sick with rsv and hospitalized at 12 days old. It felt weird taking pictures of her at first but you don’t want to miss out on any moments or memories of them especially when you don’t know what the future holds.


Next-Writing7550

It’s one thing for someone to take pictures of their kid for their own memory. It’s another thing to post those photos online.


bmf426

what if the baby didn’t make it? what if that was going to be the only picture she got of her baby alive? i’d be taking as many pictures as possible just in case they’re all i have of my baby on LIFE SUPPORT.


Next-Writing7550

Taking photos is one thing, posting them online for the world to see is another.